CDC Doctor, Who Claimed Flu Shot Caused Outbreak, Missing Feared Dead

The CDC doctor who controversially warned this year’s “disastrous” flu shot may be responsible for the deadly flu epidemic sweeping the country, has been reported missing and is feared dead.

The CDC doctor who controversially warned this year’s “disastrous” flu shot may be responsible for the deadly flu epidemic sweeping the country, has been reported missing and is feared dead.

Dr. Timothy J. Cunningham, a team lead with CDC’s Division of Population Health, has been missing for over a week, according to Atlanta police, with family and police desperate for answers regarding his sudden disappearance.

Ryan Kruger from 11Alive spoke to Dr. Cunningham’s family Saturday as they posted signs around his neighborhood.

All of this is an effort to find him and bring him back home,” Dr. Cunningham’s father told 11Alive. Family members confirmed there is no chance the CDC doctor would choose to disappear from his life without telling his family and friends.

He’s a scientist, so he has a very methodical mindset and an outgoing personality,” a family member said.

Dr. Cunningham was last seen by colleagues Monday the at the CDC office in Chamblee, Georgia. Colleagues said he was feeling sick, so he left work early and said he was going to finish his work from home. That was the last time anyone saw him and he hasn’t been heard from since that day.

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Posted by 11Alive on Friday, February 16, 2018

In January, Dr. Cunningham shared his opinion that this year’s flu shot was behind the deadly outbreak of the flu, while warning that if his name was attached to the widely-circulated quotes, he would lose his job – or suffer an even worse fate.

Understanding the dangers involved in speaking out about vaccines in the current climate, we granted him anonymity in the article. However Dr. Cunningham told us we should go public should anything happen to him.

Dr. Cunningham was an expert on contagious epidemics, having been deployed by the CDC to work on the Ebola and Zika crises in previous years. He knows a suspicious outbreak when he sees one, and this year’s flu epidemic raised serious red flag’s for the CDC doctor.

Some of the patients I’ve administered the flu shot to this year have died,” the doctor said in January, adding “I don’t care who you are, this scares the crap out of me.

We have seen people dying across the country of the flu, and one thing nearly all of them have in common is they got the flu shot,” he said.

Dr. Cunningham’s experience of people dying of the flu after receiving the flu shot are sadly not uncommon, however he remains one of a select few doctors who have spoken out and raised the issue in the public domain.

Another doctor who spoke out about the flu shot, Dr. Daniel Neides, the Chief Operating Officer of the Cleveland Clinic Wellness Institute, was fired after sharing his personal experiences with the flu shot and writing an article questioning the legitimacy of the CDC’s advice on vaccines.

Big Pharma’s dollars have effectively purchased the silence of the CDC, and turned mainstream media into a branch of their PR department. You can no longer believe anything they say about pharmaceuticals, especially vaccines.

For their part, the CDC does not allow medical practitioners to speak out regarding their experience with vaccines. If they do not toe the company line, they lose their job, or suffer a worse fate, as the ongoing purge of holistic doctors proves.

Has Dr. Cunningham suffered a similar fate as the scores of dead holistic doctors for daring to speak his mind and warn citizens about possible effects of the flu shot?

If anyone has information on the whereabouts of Timothy Jerrell Cunningham please call 911 or contact the Atlanta Police Department’s Homicide/Adult Missing Persons unit at 404-546-4235.

Baxter Dmitry

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  • Mollie Norris

    It sure didn’t take them very long – I don’t know when he went public, but it’s only a month since yournewswire’s first post. I really don’t want to read the next one when he’s found.

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      • Mitchell Steven

        YOU ARE AN IDIOT! WE TALKING ABOUT A MAN’S LIFE YOUR STUPID ASS TALKING ABOUT NONSENSE! DUMB ASS!

    • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

      Lmfao

  • Kane

    Scientists don’t have outgoing personalities Some Drs appear too.He sounds exceptional to their usual rule.It wouldn’t be surprising that they had him killed ,or he at least knows that well enough to go onto hiding without telling g anyone so no one can be implicated as an accessory .

    • Laura

      Neil deGrasse Tyson, Brian Cox, Michio Kaku, Brian Greene… all scientists and all have outgoing personalities.

  • Elijah Varga

    The motto is: Do what you’ve been told or suffer the consequences, one way or another.Terrible world we are living in,wake up people.The SHOW is over.

    • Edward

      I’d personally rather be told what to do by doctors, as reported by credible journalists.

      If you want to believe sensationalist, D-tier, tabloid website conspiracy theories, and dance to their tune of lunacy – you do that.

      • Ginny Webb

        Tell me, how does a news outlet remain credible, when commercial influence contaminates and censors content, and hamstrings its journalists? There are a few courageous award-winning journalists with decades of insider experience, currently speaking out on this topic – Del Bigtree and Sharyl Atkisson for example, but most value their pay packet over their integrity and investigative skills.

        • Brian

          Lol!
          You think scam artists are credible journalists? A magic eight ball is probably more reliable than Bigtree or Atkisson.

          Apparently you never learned how to fact check.

          • AutismDadd

            briandead who has zero credibility wants to dump on decent folks.

  • Barbara Mattia

    THIS IS THE RESPONSE I GOT ON ANOTHER SITE WHEN I POSTED THE ABOVE ABOUT THIS CDC DOCS DISAPPEARANCE.
    WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? “Since the mainstream media is extensively covering the disappearance, I assume the question is “why isn’t the mainstream media investigating the connection between Dr. Cunningham’s disappearance and the fact that he voiced negative opinions about the flu vaccine?”. I’m guessing it’s because that connection does not exist. Given Dr. Cunningham’s position in the Division of Population Health, which is completely separate from the CDC center that does vaccine work, and the fact that his research focuses on racial disparities in chronic disease, it seems unlikely that he gave a huge amount of thought to the flu vaccine. More importantly, it’s pretty clear that Dr. Cunningham is NOT the anonymous CDC doctor quoted in the prior article, assuming one believes that doctor actually exists. (I don’t.) How can I be so sure? Well, the authors of the article biffed it big time when they cited the doctor’s statements about his patients, because Dr. Cunningham’s honorific comes from his Doctorate of Science, not a Doctor of Medicine degree. As he is not a medical doctor, he doesn’t treat patients. Therefore, this assertion is pretty clearly an opportunistic effort on the part of this “news” website to capitalize on a terrible situation in order to spread their anti-vaccine message. (The “anonymous doctor” article they link to is full of hilarious lies and inaccuracies as well.) I hope his family doesn’t hear about this; they have enough to worry about. (To be clear, although I work at CDC, I don’t speak for the agency and I also don’t know Dr. Cunningham personally — all the information above is publicly available from Google.)”

    • Lady D

      opinionated. who ever wrote this article comes with opinions and not facts. okay. they are basically saying, that his opinion didnt matter and it never would have. Why? they say his expertise is in the area of chronic disease. If he were an expert of Epidemics- THAT UMBRELLAS chronic diseases to. So basically they were trying to cut ties to his work and opinions- he didnt say that… but the man is still missing. As well as over 40 scientist, doctors, nurses, holistic practitioners and etc. i wouldnt be surprised if, they passed around another article that said, that he wasnt a doctor there, he was actually the janitor (the way this is going).

      “Well, the authors of the article biffed it big time when they cited the doctor’s statements about his patients, because Dr. Cunningham’s honorific comes from his Doctorate of Science, not a Doctor of Medicine degree.” BULL! you dont have to be a medical doctor to give someone a shot. that is a STUPID thought process.

      2nd- the field that he is [against this article’s PRIOR admission of him studying racial disparities in chronic disease]… Dont you have to obtain specimens to perform research? so wouldnt that include blood withdrawls, stool samples, etc. etc.?

      [(The “anonymous doctor” article they link to is full of hilarious lies and inaccuracies as well.)]… DEFENSE! opinionated. no sound proof and basically wrote this article to fill the masses ears with fluff, yet brought no sound solidified evidence to the table. SCIENCE is a requirement when obtaining a medical degree- BIOLOGY, ANATOMY and science of course umbrellas all these subjects. MEDICINE WITHOUT SCIENCE IS NOT MEDICINE AT ALL. whoever wrote this article of your’s Barbara, doent know that. THANK FOR POSTING MA’AM.

      • Mitchell Steven

        You are stupid!

        • Lady D

          and brought no sound, solidified evidence to the table… OPINIONATED. Full of emotion and no facts.

    • Mike Stevens

      Can you link me to this mans claims about the flu vaccine?

      • kfunk937

        No one can. It’s fabricated.

        YourSo-CalledNewswire should take this piece down.

      • AutismDadd

        Do what you always do Mike, pull something out of your anus.

    • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

      Fabricated nonsense.

      • kfunk937

        Ironically, the quoted material is mostly accurate, but I haven’t found who said it to her or where. Maybe her nutbar nonsense got deleted on that other site, leaving no trace in her profile. 😀

        • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

          It’s truly frightening how incapable most of these people are of even the slightest degree of critical thinking.

          • AutismDadd

            Buh Wah Ha Ha

          • joe

            And you are the perfect example of that.

          • AutismDadd

            I’m a PERFECT EXAMPLE? Thanks dude!

    • AutismDadd

      What’s wrong with advocating for safe vaccines that work?

    • Demaris Forsythe

      AHAHAHAHA. Oh, look, another stupid conspiracy theorist.

    • Demaris Forsythe

      I think you got handed your ass. The doctor was turned down for a promotion. His family has said that conversations they had with him in the days prior to his disappearance made them feel that he was not his usual self. But of course, hysterical hyenas like you want to find a conspiracy behind every bush.

      • Barbara Mattia

        your nappy head as usual is up your ass.

      • AutismDadd

        Or a cow like you

  • sabelmouse

    wakefield got of lightly.

    • Mike Stevens

      “wakefield got of lightly.”

      Yes, Wakefield did get off (note the spelling) lightly.
      He should have been convicted of scientific fraud, and received a custodial term.

      • Nim

        No, he should not have been convicted,…..in fact, he was recently vindicated. CDC whistleblower said they fudged the data so a correlation would NOT show between the MMR vaccine and autism. Watch the video “Vaxxed”.

        • Mike Stevens

          He vindicated himself in a YouTube video.
          I heard.

          • AZ DONALD

            (Yes, Wakefield did get off (note the spelling) lightly.
            He should have been convicted of scientific fraud, and received a custodial term.)

            (He vindicated himself in a YouTube video.
            I heard.)

            You may have ‘HEARD’ something in ‘some’ YouTube video but the fact is that Nim is right.

            Dr Thompson was given CONGRESSIONAL IMMUNITY to prosecution in return for exposing his 16 years of work with the CDC to COVER-UP the vaccine-autism link, specifically in black boys.

            When they couldn’t fudge the data, the CDC eventually just threw it away, they buried the evidence.

            All of the data was hidden from public view and only if you were a CDC insider could you know EXACTLY WHERE to get that information. That’s what Dr Thompson did for Brian Hooker and you can hear it step by step in the audio recordings during the documentary.

            Brian Hooker had an autistic child and coincidentally contacted Thompson for help in finding the autism-vaccine data. Thompson specifically told him where to look and then Hooker came across the connection which was covered up KNOWINGLY for 16 years by the CDC.

            The calls between the two were ALL RECORDED and Dr Thompson showed him how to get into the data bases and WHERE to find the information he needed.

            Spend the $2.99 and watch “Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe” on YouTube or Vimeo or Amazon and actually educate yourself. They even sell the video on eBay or the Vaxxed site if you really want to know the truth instead of spreading falsehoods.
            .
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            HERE’S THE TRAILER (which alone should shock you):

            http://vaxxedthemovie.com/vaxxed-official-trailer/
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            HERE’S THE WEBSITE:

            http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
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            HERE’S THE FACEBOOK LINK:

            https://www.facebook.com/vaxxedthemovie/
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            HERE ARE SOME GOOGLE SEARCHES TO VIEW THE DOCUMENTARY:

            https://www.bing.com/search?q=vaxxed+from+coverup+to+catastrophe+full+movie&qs=n&form=QBLH&sp=-1&pq=vaxxed+from+coverup+to+catastrophe+full+movie&sc=0-45&sk=&cvid=57EEC192F4CF4EA4BDC3B76BA32570F8

            https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&biw=1280&bih=610&tbm=vid&ei=-pmRWqaxJ8vWjwPI553YAw&q=vaxxed+from+coverup+to+catastrophe+full+movie&oq=vaxxed%3A+from+c&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l7.9681.13832.0.15728.14.13.1.0.0.0.291.1800.0j6j3.9.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..5.8.1415…0i20i264k1j0i20i263k1.0.kikvYn7RRVc
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            Please don’t tell me all the information I just gave you was a waste of my time, I really hope this opens your eyes and pisses you off like it does many of us.

            This and other CDC cover-ups are massive but don’t ever go anywhere because the MSM censors the truth from us as to not lose Big Pharma advertising dollars.

            Actually BUY the CD and then pass it on to others to educate themselves. Or hell, make a backup copy to pass on, get this out to as many people as possible.

            Take Care and please pass on this information,
            Donald.
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          • Nim

            Thank you, Donald! Hard to open some people’s eyes. They will read the ingredients in a box of cereal before they feed it to their child, but will NOT read a vaccine insert to see what is being INJECTED into their child. So, I will tell those of you that know little about vaccines, except what your doc or the CDC tells you something you should know. Put “Vaccine Inserts” into your google search bar. Several sites will come up. Choose one and go to just about anyvaccine insert…..MMR or DTAP, etc. Read it with a fine tooth comb, until you come to POST MARKETING REACTIONS. There, they list these as Cardiac disorders, Gastro-intestinal Disorders, Blood and Lymph disorders, and more. Scroll down a little farther, (about line 353, or so) and you will see: This product HAS NOT BEEN EVALUATED for carcinogenic, mutagenic potential, NOR for potential to cause IMPAIRED FERTILITY. And you think it is okay to inject your baby, toddler, and child with this junk?? Cancer is the leading cause of DISEASE killer of those under 19 years of age. Educate yourself. Go to the site Vac Truth, and NVIC. Google Dr. Suzanne Humphries, she has some good informational interviews on you tube. Get the book by Pediatrician, Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, “How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor”. Chapter 19 is titled, “Inoculations: A Medical Time Bomb.” Put “Girls injured by the Gardasil Vaccine” into your search bar…..keep reading and researching…….

          • AZ DONALD

            here’s the story of triplets who got their vaccinations in the morning.

            after a couple of hours the first one went autistic.

            after a couple more hours the second one went autistic.

            about 6 hours later the last one went autistic.

            if this doesn’t convince someone then they don’t have an open mind.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPHZFQFpZrY .

            .

          • Nim

            Most Pro-Vax people do not have open minds,…….UNTIL their child has a reaction to a shot……Unfortunately, most all vaccine choice or anti-vaccine people WERE VERY PRO-VAX,……Unti their child was injured.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            *yawn*

          • AutismDadd

            All Pasta boy has in response. Pathetic

          • Brian

            Apparently you missed the memo. Vaxxed is a fraud that was put together by quacks and scam artists who prey on the gullible and vulnerable.

          • AZ DONALD

            didn’t miss any memo, smartass.

            I guess thousands of people from all over the country flock to the vaxxed bus to make up horror stories for some reason?

            yeah, that’s it and you probably didn’t even watch the triplets video before you went on to make sarcastic, insultive comments.

            like this PRO VACCINE NURSE who gave her own daughter the vaccine which eventually killed her?

            do you even care about these people or just like to be an ass in the face of overwhelming evidence?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH_d9qcZeIg

            .

          • Brian

            It’s on YOUTUUUUUUBE !!!!

            so it must be true! /sarc

            It’s funny, really. Brian Hooker claimed vaccines caused autism ONLY in african-american males who got MMR at non-standard times, so all of these names on the vaxxed bus… are contradicted by the con men behind the vaxxed bus.

            They’re all just too gullible to realize they’ve been duped.

          • AZ DONALD

            hooker did NOT say that vaccines cause autism ONLY in black kids.

            the study which dr Thompson from the CDC was trying to cover up was done on black boys and showed an astronomical increase in autism in those kids. do you understand the difference?

            either you don’t even understand the basics of this argument or are intentionally lying about it.

            who’s the dupe?

          • Brian

            Apparently you never even read Hooker’s paper….

            Regardless, it’s irrelevant because Hooker’s paper was retracted as fraudulent, because he couldn’t even do the math right.

          • AZ DONALD

            in fact, here’s the entire interview list of thousands of vaccine damaged kids.

            since you are obviously the type who laughs at other peoples pain, I bet it will give you hours of entertainment.

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos

          • AutismDadd

            Wrong briandead. Nice shilling

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian
          • AutismDadd

            How stupid and juvenile

        • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian
          • AutismDadd

            spam

        • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake
      • AutismDadd

        The makers of VIOXX should have spent the rest of their lives in prison for fraud and criminal negligence causing harm and death, but instead they get preferential treatment from the legal department.

  • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

    I have been unable to find any solid info about Cunningham’s doubts about the flu vaccine or any other vaccine.

    • Sylvia Woody Nixon

      In this climate do you really believe you would find any solid info?

      • Edward

        Yes. Credible journalism institutions would be reporting this. The fact that the only one reporting this is D-tier websites who CONSTANTLY post bullshit does not make this true.

        • Sally Rector

          Considering over 80 doctors who have called out vaccines are dead, people are a little afraid to speak out!

          • LadyD
          • John D Neumann

            Maybe they should have vaccinated.. All that proves is people who vaccinate live longer …

          • AZ DONALD

            really genius?

            and where is you scientific data to prove that?

            how about a study done on vaccinated vs unvaccinated children?

            how about the vaccinated kids being 30% sicker than the unvaccinated?

            http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            Has nothing to do with what Sally said, does it? Nope.

          • Brian

            Conspiracies, conspiracies, and more nonsensical conspiracies!

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            Not a conspiracy. These are facts. Just because you won’t take some time to investigate doesn’t mean it’s nonsensical. You’re just being intellectually lazy.

          • MidgardMortal

            Then you find it and print it here.
            It’s not that I don’t believe that this could happen…it is just that I don’t know that it did.

          • Chris Vecchio

            Dont feed the trolls. Just ignore them. They get off on this and are probably paid by big pharma

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake
          • AutismDadd

            Typical rubbish from justthefacts

          • joe

            Yeah he was the one that used to grind you into the ground, aren’t you lucky that he is still not around.

          • AutismDadd

            Dream on. He or it is hiding. Won’t respond anymore.

          • AZ DONALD

            isn’t it funny how one or two pharma paid shills can have so many aliases and appear to be the majority of the comments section?

            someday they will face a fate worse than autism and they will REMEMBER this post.

            maybe it’s a leg removed from cancer or a long debilitating disease that takes the life out of them or the cancer returning which always happens or something else.

            sorry but people who lack ethics deserve that fate.

          • AutismDadd

            Or children or grandchildren, nephews or nieces harmed, then they will understand.

          • AZ DONALD

            until then they collect a paycheck….

          • AutismDadd

            Some will carry on even after a family member dies, I’ve read many examples of victim families refusing to accept vaccines maimed or killed their child. ” Government wouldn’t do that”

          • Mara

            lmao exactly. Infectious disease costs the economy billions to treat.

          • joe

            Would you please tell me how I go about getting paid for posting here seeing as you claim to know all about it.

          • AutismDadd

            Oh so you want to be a shill AND get paid? No surprise as you do it for free already.

          • Brian

            If “these are facts”, then I trust you can provide credible evidence.

          • Taryn Williams-Cobb

            MORON!!! Since you are the expert on all of this. Tell us all why pharmaceutical companies always recalling their medications. After a series of deaths?

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            You obviously know how to type, and can use a computer. Do a quick Google search. Don’t ask people to do simple homework for you. It just makes you look….lazy.

          • Brian

            Just the opposite. You (and sally) posted nonsense, and when asked to back it up with evidence, you take the lazy and dishonest route of saying “go look it up yourself”. Others have already provided evidence that you’re lying. When you tell others to try to “look up” information that isn’t even true, it makes you look foolish.

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            Actually, I’m not lying, but apparently you are as I suspected -lazy. When you demand that someone else provides you with information, dimes to dollars you’ll find ways to dispute it -regardless of the validity or veracity of the source. So do your own searching and stop bitching about what other people aren’t providing you at the ready. We live in the age of information, and some of you are still tapping out in morse code.

          • Brian

            I love information! That’s what I get paid to do.

            The difference with you is that you tell people to work you confirm your nonsensical claims. That’s nobody else’s responsibility. If you can’t back up your own assertions, then you are, by definition, intellectually lazy and/or misinformed.

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            Blah blah blah. Why don’t you spend some of your time looking this up then? Because you’d rather blah blah blah.

          • Brian

            I have looked it up, troll.

            The only places that agree with you are conspiracy blogs that also say things like the moon landings were faked or the Jewish Holocaust never happened.

            That’s one of the ways we know it’s nonsense.

          • Lady D

            Nope, though you are telling the truth, most folks dont care because it doesnt affect them. it does, but it isnt on a personal level. So the natural reaction is, it’s a conspiracy, but they are simply afraid of the truth. That truth would bring their perfect worlds down. keep up the good work and keep spreading the message.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Bull. Fcking. Sh!t.

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            Sally is correct, but you’ll scream BS because you’re too lazy to go find the information yourself.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Ummm, yeah, ok. You conspiracy Nutbags are beyond help. What happened to you people to make you the way you are? How stupid could you be to believe this BS
            that’s clearly been debunked multiple times even in this thread?

          • Nim

            Seems you are not accepting the FACT that almost ALL people that NOW want vaccination to be a CHOICE, NOT a government mandate, and those that are downright ANTI-vaccine WERE ONCE totally PRO VACCINE people. They believed what they were told from the media advertisements of the pharmaceutical companies, and they believed what their doctors told them. They vaccinated their children right on schedule, as they were suppose to do. It was only UNTIL their child or themselves, had a frightening reaction, right after being injected, that they started to educate themselves, and found out the truth about vaccines. Some people are happy being good little sheeple,….they do not question or educate themselves and they are willing to listen and do what someone else tells them to do, trusting that person is right. But, some of us are not sheeple,…..don’t ostracized people that are curious, open-minded, like to see ALL the pieces of the puzzle before they take an injection into their body or let one be put into their child’s body. Go to the site “Hope for Holly”. Holly was a beautiful 5 year old, needing shots for kindergarten, she walked into her pediatrician’s office a happy, active, laughing little girl………..a few hours after her shots she was on life support. Put Marjorie Madision-Catone into your Facebook search bar. She lost her beautiful 20 month old baby boy to the Dtap vaccine. Cancer is the leading cause of disease death in those under 19 years of age……….I had 2 doses of vaccines when I was a child,…..today’s kids get about 64 doses by the time they are 6 years old. Educate yourself.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Lol. I’m in my phone and have neither the time nor inclination to tear apart that post. But I will remind you that when you tell people in favor of vaccines to “educate themselves,” best you have a clue what their existing education is, and in what field. You’ll save yourself some embarrassment.

          • AutismDadd

            Nim handed you your head…nice

          • Nim

            Not embarrassed at all! I don’t care what your education is,……If a person chooses to inject themselves, or their children with a product that blatantly says on the packaging material that it has NOT been tested to see if it causes cancer or mutation of DNA, and also has NOT been tested to see if it will impair your kid’s fertility……those “fertility clinics” are making so much money!……then that is on you! Inject away!

          • AutismDadd

            If you won’t then its because you can’t

          • Arauna

            The last time I checked vaccinations are still a choice. Neither my children, grandchildren, or any child I have ever know has suffered adverse effects to vaccinations. This idea only gained traction in the last several years, with that airhead Jenny McCarthy opening her big mouth far and wide to denounce them. The flu shot is a dead vaccine. So are many others. While there are risks to any medication or procedure, I think they are quite minimal and being blamed for things that would have happened otherwise.

          • AZ DONALD

            autism is not the ONLY condition caused by vaccines.

            do any of your kids have any of these afflictions?

            the amish who don’t vaccinate… don’t.

            this study was done on homeschoolers from 4 states who were either vaccinated or not vaccinated, a clear apples to apples comparison yet the vaccinated group had 30x more health conditions.

            make up your own mind but research the objective information, not the info that comes from places which get grants to give the results the govt and big pharma want.

            Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Mawson Homeschooled Study Reveals Who is Sicker
            http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            That theory has already been debunked 50 times over try agian.

          • AZ DONALD

            you are obviously too stupid to have noticed the link to the study so i’ll post it again for you here.

            this research is only 3 months old and has not been ‘debunked’.

            vaccinated homeschoolers vs unvaccinated homeschoolers.

            the vaccinated group had 30x the disease rate as the non vaccinated group.

            VACCINATED VS UNVACCINATED:
            MAWSON HOMESCHOOLED STUDY REVEALS WHO IS SICKER

            http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker

            .

          • Mike Stevens

            Is that a link to the article before it was retracted, or to the article after Mawson paid to have it republished?

          • AZ DONALD

            you should have stated that the retraction lie was promulgated by the pro vaccine industry.

            this is from Pro Vaccine site:

            {{The most interesting thing about this is that the LIE that it was retracted was spread extremely widely and loudly. Snopes and Retraction Watch were big players in spreading this lie. Unfortunately, some people here fell for the scam. When I asked for the official letter from the journal stating that the article had been retracted there was no response. Just another one of those awkward questions that gets left hanging forever.

            Odd. Supposedly all science that is critical of vaccines is either a) junk science or b) not really critical (for example, points out a big problem, but suggests that the vaccine program roll merrily on and on). On the other hand, no matter how many times vaccine critics point out multiple problems with the entire system of journal publication around pharmaceutical products, people who like vaccines are sure that everything is really okay and there is nothing to be concerned over. Um. If there are people defending vaccines by spreading lies, I think there just might be something to be concerned about.}}

            and another:

            {{If you’re confused, you’re not alone. And just to clarify: this study has NEVER been retracted, only removed by two journals, and re-published by the second one…Starting to think this is the study that just “won’t go away!”
            And, if that’s not confusing enough, please note there are actually TWO separate studies on unvaccinated children in the same journal. The second one is linked in my first comment, and it concerns premature infants.}}

          • Brian

            Lol.

            It’s hilarious to see what passes as “credible research” to the anti-vaccine crowd! Here you have a study uncontrolled internet survey, funded by anti-vaccine organizations and spread through disproportionately anti-vaccine groups, rejected and retracted from even low-quality journals.

          • AutismDadd

            briandead expects the Pharmafia or CDC to pay for studies that expose their ways…

          • Mike Stevens

            The 1st version of the Mawson paper was supposed to appear in the journal “Frontiers i Public health”.
            It was pulled after provisional acceptance (which is the equivalent of a retraction).
            It then reappeared in a low life pay-to-play journal (Open Access Text), in modified form.

            I wonder how much Mawson had to cough up to get it republished…
            It was actually a pretty ropey study, with high degrees of selection bias, subjective and unconfirmed diagnostic data, and multiple confounding variables which were not adjusted for.
            No wonder he had to pay for it to see the light of day.

          • AZ DONALD

            it’s amazing how you big pharma shills have all the data right in front of you no matter what the topic. does merck or pfizer give you an actual book of talking points or is it electronic?

          • joe

            Brain dead reply from a Pea Brain You do know that Mike Stevens is a REAL doctor, what are YOUR qualifications Pea Brain?

          • AutismDadd

            Mike’s key boot licker joe comes to aide her master.

          • joe

            What a Maroon referring to me as a “HER”, the name is joe which means MALE. Answer the question Pea Brain, what are YOUR qualifications?

          • AutismDadd

            I hear you’re female. Do you have gender confusion along side your other confusion?

          • joe

            Do you have reading problems? joe is a male name.what a maroon

          • AutismDadd

            And the gender issue?

          • joe

            You referring to me as a” HER”when it is obvious to every one else that I am a male due to my name being joe BUT I suppose having a Pea Brain that would not be obvious to you.

          • AutismDadd

            You just seem effeminate

          • AZ DONALD

            oh fer christs sake, joe is a male?

            I could have swore by the way ‘she’ spoke and wrote with that effeminate inflection that joe was short for joelle or something.

            are you sure?

            crap, it’s strange talking to a dude when you assumed by all the indications that it was a chick….

          • AutismDadd

            An EW moment

          • AZ DONALD

            I just had to brush myself off like if I had dirt on me or something.
            ewwwe..

          • AutismDadd

            I’m not at liberty to say. What are yours or will you take the 5th that you refuse to answer on the grounds that you might inseminate yourself?

          • joe

            “more young men have children with Autism” is what you said and I asked for a citation two days ago, provide a citation, Pea brain until you do that, I have to call you a liar AGAIN. The fifth does not apply to me maroon as I do not live in the U.S.A. I will not respond till you supply that citation

          • AutismDadd

            So you can’t do research. No wonder you’re a poop head

          • joe

            You made the claim BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU.

          • Mike Stevens

            The difference is that I check the facts, something that you clearly don’t do.

          • AutismDadd

            Buh Wah Ha Ha….good one Mike. Did you print that with a straight face?

          • AZ DONALD

            now mikey, you mistook facts for taking points from your employer…

          • AutismDadd

            Thanks Mike for supporting AZ Donald’s contention that the fix is in. Mawson treated poorly for revealing evidence? No kidding its been going on for decades. The Pharmafia has ways to make journals act and then Mawson paid because there was no choice…right Mike?

          • AZ DONALD

            keep spreading the lies because it’s the only way you get a paycheck, right?

            I really really wish something horrible, worse than vaccine induced disease happens to you and you know what?

            when it does you will remember this post each and every minute of every day you suffer.

            {{The NEVER-retracted vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study that revealed significantly higher odds in risks of chronic illness among vaccinated children is back online.

            But will Retraction Watch admit it launched the attack to discredit it?

            Will Snopes fact-check itself? If not, why not?}}

            .

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            Firstly, there’s no need for name calling I my friend is no where near stupid. You are obviously the stupid one to start calling people whom you know nothing about names because you fall prey to internet garbage. Just because the internet says a study was done you feel it’s legitamate. Who ran the study your Auntie cousin mama sister. Whatever; I’ve read years of studies and have access to studies and documents civilians do not so you can put your theory to bed anti-vaccer you and your followers whom are going to cause the United States to have our next great epidemic.

          • AutismDadd

            Yet you supply ZERO links to all these studies.

          • AZ DONALD

            there would be need for name-calling if you actually read the fvcking article I linked to in the first place to educate yourself but it was obviously WAY over your head.

            hey jackazz, the internet didn’t tell me the study was done, the School of Public Health, Jackson State University did.

            do you understand the difference?

            say hello to auntie cousin mama sister. are you guys inbred?

            you couldn’t even UNDERSTAND the study I linked to above (most likely didn’t read it) but this is the extent of your intellect?

            {{I’ve read years of studies and have access to studies and documents civilians do not so you can put your theory to bed anti-vaccer you and your followers whom are….}}

          • AZ DONALD

            {{there’s no need for name calling I my friend is no where near stupid.}}

            OMG OMG

            is that irony or stupidity right in our face?!?

            I “IS” not stupid, LOLOLOLOLOL

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            Next time you try to make people look stupid do your own research the source where you are getting your information are not credible and has been proven. So, just like I sai; come with some true and valid sources. I laugh at how easy it is to convince lay people. Everyone has cancer haven’t you heard. My finger hurt Google says “cancer”, my back hurts Google says it’s “bone cancer.” The study you speak of has been retracted not 1 but 2 times because it was not valid. Do you need this stupid person to explain to you what makes a study valid I have only graduated from College 3 times.
            https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/06/why-this-vaxed-v-unvaxed-study-is-not-valid/

          • AutismDadd

            What nonsense.

          • AZ DONALD

            I didn’t have to make you look stupid, you did it yourself by not researching the link I provided in another comment.

            you just can’t understand the difference between internet fakery and a study published by a university.

            only liars keep bringing up the nonsense about retraction of the article.

            they were to be published in two minor publications but then Mawson decided to pull them and have them published by a more reputable journal.

            they weren’t rejected, LIAR.

            it’s something that should be applauded but liars like you use it as a weapon.

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            I saw the link and yes I read it as well . CMSRI is and always had been controversial. Also, I do not need you to critique my writing schools this is not some literary writing contest the only person that looks stupid and inappropriate are the people who are unable to have an adult conversation about an issue that our country is faced with. As of now it is a choice and my choice as a healthcare provider is to decline to sign any exemption forms that parents bring in that’s my choice. I’ve seen the effects of not vaccinating with my own eyes and I enjoy sleeping at night. Let’s have this conversation after your child gets meningitis from school and dies from it. I don’t care what you or anyone says once it actually hits home you will question rather you made the right decision. I’m done with this conversation if you are going to continue to act like a child.

          • AZ DONALD

            I doubt if you read the article ‘well’ or you would have formed at least ‘some’ doubts about your stance on vaccines after the comparison of vaccinated vs unvaccinated homeschoolers over 4 states showed a 30x increase in disease rates. not 3 or 4 or 6 but 30x!

            CMSRI is only ‘controversial’ to the “other side” who have a differing opinion.

            your side belittles, insults and name-calls to give themselves superiority and try to diminish the reputation of the other.

            there is nothing controversial about them that except that YOU disagree and are apart of the name-callers.

            what cmsri did is publish an article about a study done by the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics in the School of Public Health, Jackson State University.

            is JSU now ‘controversial’ too?

            ps. “As of now it is a choice “. actually it’s not a choice to well over 12% of the population and that number is much higher when you add in the controlling people like you who push your agenda onto others who have done their own research and come to other conclusions.

            pss. {Also, I do not need you to critique my writing schools this is not some literary writing contest}

            ok, I won’t criticize your writing ‘schools’…..

            .

          • AutismDadd

            By who? and where is your evidence x 50?

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            Like I said we can just go back to the time before vaccines and just double our sales on wheelchairs, braces and canes and welcome polio back. My Aunt is disabled not due to Polio. All Americans do is complained we are just a bunch of snotty nose beings. All medications come with adverse reactions I’d rather have an autistic kid than no kid at all. Try watching a kid die from Meningitis when there is a vaccine for that. You are “Anti” until your kid due from the vary illness you could have prevented I’ve see it myself so don’t come at me with the BS. We complain because we did not have to endure all the losses our ancestors had to pre-vaccines. I get so sick of people saying “I hate doctors then when they are having a heart attack they call 911. Don’t call if you hate them just go ahead and met your maker. You think I’m going to call someone I hate for help. Whatever, I just got my measles booster thanks to the outbreak last year it’s recommended that we get 3 and you beat believe I get boosters every chance I can. My entire family all generations are pro vaccines and not 1 person has autism, cancer or any other illness you “Anti’s” claim vaccines caused. My grandparents had 11 children. And let me tell you they had children we have a big family someone should be Autistic right. SMH at this foolishness.

          • AutismDadd

            Wow that’s quite a stool sample.

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            You are cute and funny.

          • AutismDadd

            Deflection noted. Lack of 50x studies expected.

          • Mara

            The Amish do have those diseases. I bet you read that information from Natural News.

          • AZ DONALD

            the amish groups who vaccinate do get those diseases.
            the amish groups who do not vaccinate do not get those diseases.
            that type of confusion is how pro vaxxers and big pharma manipulate data and control information.
            did you bother to click the link and read the info I provided above?

          • AutismDadd

            Evidence please…

          • Nim

            Yes, it has gained traction, as you say, in the last several years,……probably due to social media. Read a vaccine insert with a fine tooth comb…..you need one to see the tiny print, and it is about 2.5 feet long, maybe 3 feet long! Go to the site Vac Truth, Learn the Risk, and NVIC,…..go to the VAERS site and you will see all the MONEY that has been paid out to families whose children have either died or been forever injured by vaccines,……Billions of dollars have been paid out, from a government sponsored “Vaccine Court”, since you CANNOT sue a vaccine manufacturer if a vaccine injures or kills your child……they cannot be held liable.

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            No need to read an insert all I need to do is look at all the children that perished before them and I’m sold. People tend to forget where we came from. So what you are telling me is you don’t mind sitting back and watching millions of children die.

          • Nim

            Maybe in third world countries they are dying…..but, many are dying from the vaccines they received. Measles was so commonplace and harmless that our TV sitcoms like The Brady Bunch, I Love Lucy, The Flintstones, etc would write the main character having measles as part of the story line. It truly was no big thing. You can go to You Tube, and put in The Brady Bunch and the Measles, and you will see what I mean.

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            So basically what you are telling me is that all the mass casualties that took place years ago were all just a figment of our imagination. Also just because you and your siblings survived does not me some other poor parents child did. We are all genetically different and you cannot blame vaccines on everything you named because it has been legitimately debunked. I know plenty of anti-vaccers who have lost children to every single thing you just named now tell me who do we blame then “God.” You anti-vaccers talk until your kid die from measles and yes you can die from it. Anti-vaccers is the reason Whooping cough is not again. You leave the country and bring back all kind of strains of illnesses and contaminate the schools just keep your kids at home and home school that should be a law. By the way a child can die from Whooping cough just encase you didn’t know.

          • Nim

            Sanitation, hand washing, better nutrition all played a part in death from these viruses going down,…..and it is the reason 3rd world countries still have deaths from measles. Read.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            Nope. In fact, improved sanitation actually caused polio incidence to rise!

          • Demaris Forsythe

            Explain why over 400 people died of measles in the US alone in the year before the measles vaccine came out. That would be 1962, dumbass. Do you think we didn’t have flush toilets in the US?

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            So basically what you are telling me is that all the mass casualties that took place years ago were all just a figment of our imagination. Also just because you and your siblings survived does not me some other poor parents child did. We are all genetically different and you cannot blame vaccines on everything you named because it has been legitimately debunked. I know plenty of anti-vaccers who have lost children to every single thing you just named now tell me who do we blame then “God.” You anti-vaccers talk until your kid die from measles and yes you can die from it. Anti-vaccers is the reason Whooping cough is not again. You leave the country and bring back all kind of strains of illnesses and contaminate the schools just keep your kids at home and home school that should be a law. By the way a child can die from Whooping cough just encase you didn’t know.

          • AutismDadd

            Yet you refuse to imagine vaccines causing autism after MILLIONS of parents around the World witness it after a series of vaccination. Are they figments of their imagination? And all other table injuries and insert information, made up by the Wakefield Cult or the Jenny McCarthy Cult?

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston
          • AutismDadd

            Malnutrition exists in every country no matter where. Its contraindicated for vaccination for good reason, but it doesn’t stop it from happening.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            CIte your evidence that vaccines are causing more deaths in developing countries than the diseases they prevent. And anyone who cites a cartoon and stupid sitcoms as evidence is a fucking moron.

          • AutismDadd

            And you are saying who cares is vaccines maim and kill consumers. 19 countries have Vaccine Compensation programs. 176 countries don’t. What happens to victims in countries that do nothing for them? Must be a real Disney Moment.

          • AutismDadd

            And LISTEN to eye witness accounts from parents.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            You have no idea what a vaccine insert actually means, do you? It shows.

          • FallsAngel

            While I agree with everything you’ve said about vaccines, I have to point out that anti-vaxism has been around since Edward Jenner.
            https://www.google.com/search?q=cartoon+of+people+turning+into+cows+from+smallpox+vaccine&rlz=1C1FLDB_enUS526US572&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEmqPHh8TZAhVN0mMKHdJGBjwQ7AkINA&biw=1920&bih=974#imgrc=40L1_Hc48JWQEM:
            This nonsense will always be with us.

          • JoeFarmer

            ” Educate yourself.”

            And irony meters around the world just exploded!

          • Nim

            Not really…………..

          • JoeFarmer

            You don’t understand irony, either. Not surprising.

          • AutismDadd

            upvotes from 3 gang members

          • AutismDadd

            As usual, drive by blah blah from JoePharmer

          • Latanya Wilson-Weston

            Maybe we should go back to the pre-vaccines days when we lost millions how does that sound. Cook up a proposal so we can go before Congress and rid the U.S of vaccines and we can all sit back eat pop corn and watch our young die from polio, HIB, Hep B meningitis, measles, mumps, Ruebela and other God forsaken illnesses that once swept the land. People have reactions to medications this is known as an allergy. No one knows when and if this will happen. It is definitely sad when it does. Let’s look at it 1 reaction vs millions dead due to an epidemic caused by diseases we can prevent. I think it’s just silly.

          • Nim

            Okay,……So, it is obvious you do not know the history of vaccines, nor the history of polio. Polio was in Europe the same time it was in the U.S. The incidence of polio was dropping both here and in Europe BEFORE the introduction of the vaccine. Europe did NOT vaccinate for polio when the U.S. did, yet, incidence of polio continued to plummet there!

          • Demaris Forsythe

            CItation required. Polio did not “plummet” before the introduction of the vaccine.

          • Acleron

            Completely wrong.
            UK last major peak was in 1957/58, mass vaccination started in 1957/58.
            Netherlands last major peak was in 1957, mass vaccination started in 1957.
            W Germany last major peak was in 1961/62, mass vaccination started in 1961/62

            See Figure 1
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1592614/#!po=24.1071

          • Nim

            It is silly to think of measles and mumps and rubella, and I had all three, by the way,……as did my brother and sisters, and near everyone in my elementary school! No one died! No one needs “boosters”, as they were given lifetime immunity. And the reactions are not just allergic. Aluminum accumulates in the brain…..it stays there,…..We have traded common childhood viruses for eczema, seizures, learning disabilities, cancer, leukemia, SIDS, ADHA, and more……

          • Brian

            Well, all the people who died from those diseases aren’t around to tell us how awesome “lifetime immunity” is.

          • joe

            There is something wrong with you, show me just ONE credible citation that vaccination causes cancer. My three School mates died of Polio in 1954 also 4 to 5 hundred died of Measles just in the U.S.A every year before vaccination was available, do you really want to go back to those days?

          • AZ DONALD

            the rate of polio had been dropping for several years before the polio vaccine came out because of better sanitation, but you knew that already, didn’t you joe?

            this is how you pharma weasels work, multiple aliases, lies, etc.

            paid for by the post or by the hour?

          • joe

            Typical response from a Pro- Disease person when beaten the old Gambit that I am getting paid. No we had sanitation and clean water in 1954 yet three of my schoolmates died of Polio and there were heaps of kids walking around the playground with a caliper on their legs due to Polio.Do you really want to go back to those days?

          • AZ DONALD

            I’ve just decided to repost my other post which shows you are a liar.

            make sure to check out the first chart on the link which shows the incredible drop in polio BEFORE the vaccine was introduced while joe cries about his classmates to gain sympathy.

            it boggles the mind how you Big Pharma online troll shills have every talking point needed at hand IMMEDIATELY.

            YOU cherry pick incredibly short timelines to fill your agenda so lets look at longer periods instead of the short periods to fit your narrative.

            polio cases *PEAKED* just under *60,000 in 1953*.

            polio cases *DROPPED* to *14,000 by 1955* with NO vaccine.

            *60,000 polio cases to 14,000 BEFORE the vaccine because of improved sanitation*.

            *THEN* the polio vaccine was introduced in 1955 and the minor downtrend continued which was obviously not from the vaccine.

            quite a different scenario than the lie you just presented, huh? which weeks of which year were you presenting?

            THEN all the credit for the continual lowering of polio cases was given to the VACCINE when it obviously wasn’t, yet shills like you continue the lie.

            don’t you fvc’kers have any shame?

            is it really worth the paycheck?

            it’s well known that polio cased dropped dramatically BEFORE the vaccine yet you will cherry pick just months for data and lie to defend your position.

            liars like you spread disinformation.

            the first chart in this link below proves that you are nothing but a paid for, lying schill.

            may you rot in hell or have some horrible, karma come back to you.

            I still can’t believe how you cherry picked a few months to prove your point which is an actual lie when you look at the bigger picture of years.

            https://vaccines.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=005964

          • joe

            Before you call anyone a liar go to this link and read the section relating to polio. Then you rant on about me being paid, you are a vile person accusing me being paid with no Evidence, crawl back in your hole you piece of slime. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056803.htm

          • AutismDadd

            Its CDC…biased and corrupt

          • joe

            Only according to your little Pea Brain.

          • AutismDadd

            According to many poop face

          • AZ DONALD

            no, YOU go to the link I provided first which showed a 90% decrease in polio cases BEFORE the fvcking vaccine was even introduced.

            it’s the first chart on the page.

            {{polio cases *PEAKED* just under *60,000 in 1953*.
            polio cases *DROPPED* to *14,000 by 1955* with NO vaccine.
            *60,000 polio cases to 14,000 BEFORE the vaccine because of improved sanitation*.
            *THEN* the polio vaccine was introduced in 1955 and the minor downtrend continued which was obviously not from the vaccine.}}

          • joe

            I an not going to waste my time to spoon feed you. I believe FallsAngel has replied and sorted it out for you, you were proven wrong by her, end of story.

          • FallsAngel

            LOL, minor downtrend! Look at the numbers, jag! 1937-1952, up/down, up/down. From 1943 onward through 1956, >10,000 cases a year, with peaks and valleys around that number. From 1948-1955, >20,000 cases EVERY YEAR. Big years (>30,000 cases): 1949 (polio killed my husband’s cousin) 42,033 cases, 1952 57,879 cases. 1957, first year since 1942 that there were <20,000 cases (5485 cases, the lowest number since 1938.

            If you really have this nuclear physics degree, you should know how to add/subtract.

            ETA: Add link http://www.post-polio.org/ir-usa.html

          • AZ DONALD

            you just keep believing those numbers coming from the CDC which just admitted it covered up the vaccine/black-autism connection for 16 years…
            a real credible source, yeah, and the millions of parents who swear their kid went autistic right after the vaccine shots are all nuts.

            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • FallsAngel

            The CDC admitted no such thing.

          • AZ DONALD

            after Thompson testified in front of CONGRESS to the 16 year coverup the CDC put out a statement which quickly disappeared and got buried in the bureaucracy somewhere.

          • FallsAngel

            Thompson NEVER testified.

          • AZ DONALD

            OMG, you’re finally right Falls!

            CONGRESS gave Thompson IMMUNITY prosecution but he never actually did testify to congress because ……. ta da ……. THE CDC BLOCKED HIS TESTIMONY!!.

            IRONIC, HUH?

            now why would they do that if they didn’t have 16 years of coverup to coverup?

            you know falls (aka jagoff) you really aren’t supporting your case here, LOL.

            CDC BLOCKS WHISTLEBLOWER WILLIAM THOMPSON FROM TESTIFYING IN VACCINE INJURY CASE

            http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2016/10/cdc-blocks-whistleblower-william-thompson-from-testifying-in-vaccine-injury-case/

            .

          • AZ DONALD

            and here’s more info in case anyone wants to further their research into the corrupt CDC.
            https://www.google.com/search?q=dr+thompson+testifies+to+congress&ie=&oe=

          • https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/a-provaxer-watched-vaxxed/ Kathy

            hahahaaha which Thompson testified to Congress? Not the Thompson worked on the 2004 autism study.

          • AZ DONALD

            not only are you vaxxers like vultures but you’re dumb as rocks.
            I already addressed this to Falls (aka JagOff) in another post.
            don’t be lazy and look for it yourself, I think it will impress you.

          • https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/a-provaxer-watched-vaxxed/ Kathy

            Because you seem to have a problem with facts.

            https://www.cdc.gov/media/spokesperson/sme-bio/cunningham.html

            “Timothy J. Cunningham, ScD, is a team lead with CDC’s Division of Population Health. Dr. Cunningham trained with CDC as an Epidemic Intelligence Service officer. His research has been oriented towards understanding health differences related to race/ethnicity, socioeconomic status, gender, and geography. Dr. Cunningham has also deployed for numerous public health emergencies, including Superstorm Sandy, Ebola, and Zika. He is an active member of the American Public Health Association and the American College of Epidemiology. Dr. Cunningham received his S.M. and Sc.D. from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.”

            His job has nothing to do with vaccines or flu.

          • AZ DONALD

            and you seem to have a problem with COMMON SENSE.

            we were talking about Thompson, not Cunningham.

            try to keep up will ya?

            now go away little schill, I need my beauty sleep….

          • https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/a-provaxer-watched-vaxxed/ Kathy

            This Thompson did not testify to congress either

          • AZ DONALD

            is this groundhog day?
            I already addressed that to you 4 posts above.
            congress gave Thompson protection as a whistleblower.
            Thompson was never allowed to testify because the CDC refused to let him.
            they didn’t want him exposing the CDC’s coverup of the autism-black boys link.
            the person I was thinking of was congressman posey.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw471A3tjPk

          • https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/a-provaxer-watched-vaxxed/ Kathy

            That was debunked 3.5 years ago. Nobody gave Thompson whistlebelower status. All federal employees have the right to blow whistles, per federal law, but Thompson never blew any. None. He told Hooker about a difference of opinion in analyzing the data and Hooker and Wakefield created a made up controversy about it. The whole thing was debunked 3.5 years agod. Why do you think nothing has happened and Thompson still works for CDC?

          • Acleron

            Up to 1952 each epidemic peak was higher than before and each trough between epidemics was higher than before except one. After 1955, the year of introduction of the vaccine, the rate dropped below any previous peak. How anyone, especially a nuclear physicist, could conclude that shows that polio was naturally dying out is a mystery unless they are delusional.

          • Brian

            Still lying, I see.

          • AZ DONALD

            why does your side always resort to name calling and belittling instead of facts and logic to win an argument?

            oh yeah, you’re losers.

            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • Brian

            Saying you’re lying is stating a fact. It’s not name-calling.

            Thanks for proving my point!

          • AZ DONALD

            no, you’re name-calling which is typical of your side when you lose the argument.

            I’ve given cites since my very first post while you vaxxers do nothing but talk and insult.

            since you guys are so lazy as to not check out my cites I decided to post the actual data, yet you still name call and insult to make your pitiful little existence feel like it’s more substantial than it actually is.

          • Brian

            Citing a dishonest source is still dishonest, liar.

          • AZ DONALD

            probably the most impartial organization in the world from medical to politics but you just keep slandering and calling names to make your little self feel more superior. you do know that name-calling in an argument really doesn’t help your cause? makes you look like an ass.

            https://www.procon.org/about-us.php

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          • Acleron

            A nuclear physicist who cannot understand a graph or do simple arithmetic, BS Calcutta (failed)?

          • AZ DONALD

            you seem to be the one who can’t understand a graph (actually a chart) it seems.

            do you see the red line which was the introduction of the vaccine?

            do you see the huge drop in vaccine cases BEFORE the introduction of the vaccine?

            do you see ANY deviation at all in that line once the vaccine was introduced or that it had any measurable effect to the drop that had been occurring for over 2 years prior?

            no?

            are those questions too difficult for you to answer?

            you belittle me yet you cant see your oen nose despite your face, lol

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • Acleron

            I can see all the increasing peaks that didn’t fall to zero and only one that did, the only difference? The mass vaccination. Weird that a nuclear physicist couldn’t see them.

          • AZ DONALD

            if you can’t see the nearly 3 year freefall of polio cases BEFORE the vaccine was introduced then you are an outright liar who obviously has an agenda.

            goodbye.

          • Acleron

            After the peak of an ongoing epidemic, you get a fall, its the definition of a peak, you dolt and after each fall, the next peak was even higher.

            What was different about the last peak? It certainly wasn’t the asinine suggestion that sanitation was simultaneously installed across America. So what difference that could have affected polio infection occurred? Wow, only the introduction of vaccination. In every country, polio cases only reduced to near zero after vaccination.

          • FallsAngel

            If he’s a nuclear physicist, I’m Tinkerbell. My husband is a nuclear physicist and he can read a graph.

          • Acleron

            I’d be more than slightly worried that degrees were awarded to people without the ability to read a graph or do simple arithmetic in any STEM topic let alone nuclear physics. However, I see he is now claiming to be a doctor. What next, a degree in immunology?

          • AZ DONALD

            and again ACLERON is an outright liar like all of you shills are.

            I said my degree was in physics and you lied saying a nuclear physicist. .

            my title has (had) ‘nuclear’ in it but since you all are such slimeballs and outright liars, I wouldn’t trust putting any more personal info out on the internet.

          • Acleron

            Lol, you tried hard to imply you were a nuclear physicist, yet you don’t even demonstrate the scientific skills of a high school student.

          • shay simmons
          • AZ DONALD

            you can repeat your inane opinions over and over but I never said physicist.

            why do you guys always need to make yourselves feel bigger than you are with the little drive by insults which just make you look immature?

            YOU are the one who cant see that the majority of polio cases resolved BEFORE the vaccine was introduced (the red line in the chart above) .

            I guess if you throw enough shit at someone then some of it will stick, huh?

          • Acleron

            LMAO. You stated that ‘ my degree is in physics, nuclear physics to be precise’ but I see you say you acquired an internship, you are obviously trying to imp!y you are a doctor. What next, a PhD in economics or perhaps a tenured professorship in BS.

          • Acleron

            As usual, you are the liar, you said, ‘my degree is in physics, nuclear to be precise’. LMAO, you might have a degree in toilet cleaning but even that requires being able to count. But then you claimed you gained admittance as an intern. You’re just a joke.

            The interesting thing is do you have to be as thick as a plank to be an antivaxxer or does becoming one dumb you to such subnormal levels?

          • Peter Olins

            Do you have any data to support your extrapolation of the incidence of cases if vaccines had not been introduced?
            Of course not.
            Step away from the keyboard.

          • AZ DONALD

            no data on extrapolation (guessing) but do have data showing the increase and decrease of polio cases over the years and the exact time of the introduction of the polio vaccine which didn’t make any difference in the 3 year drop of polio cases and continued unabated for almost 2 years afterwards.

            now maybe you should step away from the keyboard and quit asking for extrapolated (guessing) data which has nothing to do with the charts and cites I’ve provided.

          • Mike Stevens

            You can’t even read your own chart, dumbo.
            It states at bottom that up to 1953 the chart includes both paralytic and non-paralytic cases of polio.
            After 1954, your chart includes only paralytic cases, making the drop prevaccine to be more marked.

            I suggest you use data that distinguish between the 2, or a chart that gives all cases of polio.

            Like this:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4055a9177397f0f854b30b142c2bfc67ef7edca9568e87acebca4329f2d68840.jpg

            Data are here:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f96760ac81c01c47ac9687c0d67c0044a94c7717b26258eec7432495623e94ab.jpg

          • Acleron

            So you still can’t see all the other peaks in your graph. Like all delusionists you cherry pick, after all, you never have any facts, do you?

          • Mike Stevens
          • joe

            I wish my poor dead mates were here to read your vile comments about them, you are a truly selfish person with no compassion for you fellow man, Karma will bite you one day.

          • AutismDadd

            Go wash your hands joe in honor of those who actually stopped polio

          • joe

            And who were they? Oh you mean Jonas Salk.

          • AutismDadd

            He invented soap and warm water plus all forms of sanitation and refrigeration? WOW

          • joe

            I am getting tired of you, answer my question, what are your qualifications?

          • AutismDadd

            I’m tired of you being an ignoramus

          • AutismDadd

            So why did you live?

          • joe

            I was LUCKY!

          • AutismDadd

            Life can be cruel

          • joe

            To annoy you.

          • AutismDadd

            I agree. There is no God

          • AZ DONALD

            OMG little snowflake, “your poor dead mates” of 60 years ago.

            are you still shedding so many tears for them that you lie about my statements?

            show me where I made vile comments about them, you cant.

            you can only address my well written reply to you and make up even more vile lies that I supposedly made about them.

            show the quote assh*le.

            and by the way, if you read and reference my post to you, 90% of polio cases had been eliminated BEFORE the fvcking vaccine even came onto market….

            “my poor dead mates were here to read your vile comments about them”

            you lying crock of sh!t.
            .

          • joe

            Once again you call me a LIAR with no Evidence, THAT makes you a vile person and implying that my mates never died of Polio makes you vile AND a scumbag, crawl back into your hole.

          • AZ DONALD

            you are so stupid that you can’t understand WHY I called you a liar.

            YOU stated that I made “vile comments about them (your dead friends)”

            I said show me the quote or you are a liar, what part can’t you comprehend?

            show me the direct quote and I will take it back, otherwise you are a liar.

            and on top of that gaff now you are saying that I “implying that my mates never died of Polio”.

            your lies just keep on growing.

            lets just stick to the first one.

            get it now?

          • joe

            I got that you are a slime ball and not worthy of any further responses to you.

          • AZ DONALD

            its not that i’m not worthy of any more responses from you it’s because you can’t quote me as saying any vile comments about your dead friends and I exposed you as the liar that you are.
            does that sound more like it?

          • joe
          • AutismDadd

            Its not a study its a story. It says its spread by dirty hands. So instead of crapping in the bush and using leaves to wipe, we now have toilets and soap and warm water and we can use journal pages like this one to recycle into TP.

          • joe

            This is an excerpt from that link—– inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) or Salk vaccine (1) and oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) or Sabin vaccine (2)—has
            resulted in a dramatic reduction in paralytic poliomyelitis,
            constituting one of the most successful public health programs ever
            conducted on a global scale

          • AutismDadd

            Written by who?

          • AZ DONALD

            why do the pharma schills ignore the facts presented like clear cut charts showing massive drops in polio PRIOR to the vaccine and then call a father of a vaccine sickend child a slime ball?

            they literally need to burn at the stake.

            they keep ignoring the first clear cut chart on this site but it’s there no matter how much they misdirect the discussions.

            https://vaccines.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=005964

          • Nim

            They ignore it, because they want the money they get from inoculations…….FOLLOW THE MONEY.

          • AutismDadd

            It their indoctrination. It causes Blind Faith Syndrome. BFS should be included in the DSM

          • FallsAngel

            What drop in polio was that? Polio cases went up and down in the US. The largest polio epidemic in the US was in 1952, not 1953. Cases dropped in 1953, as they historically did after an epidemic. The polio vaccine was introduced in April of 1955 so it stands to reason that cases would go down that year as uptake of the vaccine increased.

            And was all that nasty talk really necessary? Can you not prove a point without these personal attacks?

          • AutismDadd

            IRONY METER shorted out and caught fire folks. FalseAngel dares to criticize nastiness?

          • joe

            You can’t talk.

          • AutismDadd

            Ah yes I can…

          • joe

            Thanks Falls.

          • AZ DONALD

            what drop, are you a complete imbecile?

            are you not able to follow a chart from the link I gave?

            the one that drops like a rock and near the end the polio vaccine is introduced which did absolutely nothing in real terms?

            the chart clearly shows a polio high of almost 60000 in 1953 and then a drop like a rock of about 15,000 in 1955 AND THEN THE VACCINE WAS INTRODUCED.

            WAS THIS MASSIVE PRE VACCINE DROP BECAUSE OF THE ANTICIPATED VACCINE COMING TO MARKET?

            what loons you all are or more likely, paid for loons.

          • FallsAngel

            You’re the one who can’t read. I’ve discussed the polio figures for so long I almost have them memorized. The biggest polio epidemic in the US was in 1952. The vaccine was introduced in April 1955, which year cases dropped like a rock.

          • AZ DONALD

            I’ve posted the chart a thousand times and yet you still continue to ask redundant questions.
            your stupidity needs to end here.
            goodnight…

          • FallsAngel

            Here is an accurate chart: http://www.post-polio.org/ir-usa.html
            Note, 1952, the largest number of cases EVER.

            Here’s more: http://poliotoday.org/?page_id=13
            “In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic became the worst outbreak in the nation’s history. Of nearly 58,000 cases reported that year 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis.

            Three years later, Dr. Jonas Salk became a national hero when he developed the first safe and effective polio vaccine in 1955 with the support of the March of Dimes. In the two years before the vaccine was widely available, the average number of polio cases in the U.S. was more than 45,000. By 1962, that number had dropped to 910.”

            There’s much more. Nothing like someone who can’t admit they were wrong, ever.

          • AZ DONALD
          • FallsAngel

            You. do. not. get. it.

          • AZ DONALD

            YOU. ARE. A. PAID. SCHILL.
            tell me again how that straight decline of 56,000 polio cases was the “nature of the disease”, LOLOL

          • Brian

            Hey there liar.

            There was never a decline of 56,000 polio cases… until after the vaccine came out.

          • AZ DONALD

            I know its difficult for you NOT to be an insulting fvck but just do a little subtraction and you will get a number close to that.

            AFTER the vaccine came out THE TRENDLINE CONTINUED *UNABATED* AND THE DECLINE FROM THERE WAS ANOTHER 12,000 BUT SINCE THE TRENDLINE DIDNT CHANGE AT ALL SINCE THE VACCINE INTRODUCTION IT WASN’T FROM THE VACCINE….

            boy you guys are out in force, OVERTIME?

          • Acleron

            LMAO
            The rate of polio dropped in 37-38 and then rose, higher,
            it dropped in 40-42 and then rose again higher,
            it dropped in 43-45 and then rose again higher,
            it dropped in 46-47 and then rose again higher,
            it dropped in 49-50 and then rose again higher,
            it dropped in 52-54 and then carried on dropping.

            So what happened in 1955 that was different? That was the mass vaccination, nothing else. You are merely another cherry picking delusionist.

          • Acleron

            Each dot represents a year, now use your fingers and count back to the peak. Sheesh, how stupid do you have to be to be an antivaxxer?

          • AZ DONALD

            you do understand that the red line was the introduction of the vaccine, right?
            you do understand that the majority of the decline in polio cases occurred BEFORE the vaccine, right?
            did you know that the initial introduction of the vaccine killed so many people that it had to be pulled and reformulated?
            then later in the year of 1955 is when they finally introduced a ‘safer’ version which didn’t kill as many people.
            you knew all this, right?

          • Acleron

            Managed to count those dots yet?

          • AZ DONALD

            and again your contribution to this thread and my well written post is to come back with more insults because that’s the limit of your integrity.

          • Acleron

            Merely demonstrating your inability to read data, let alone analyse it.

          • Acleron

            You deserve insults for your inability to even lie well. A nuclear physicist and a doctor, you invoke derision very time you post.

          • FallsAngel

            Don-boy, do you see any peaks and valleys in that graph?

          • AZ DONALD

            yes, (JagOff).

            there are MINOR peaks and troughs as the polio incidence climbs.

            then once sanitation was widespread, I see a virtual straight line down for about 4 years.

            even when the vaccine was introduced it had no effect on the downward trend at all.

            (Nothing like someone who can’t admit they were wrong, ever.)
            exactly, sorry you cant see what’s right in front of you.

          • Acleron

            ‘then once sanitation was widespread’

            In one year the whole of America installed flush toilets and and sewerage farms?

            You are a joke.

          • AZ DONALD

            funny how polio cases dropped for the 2 years before introduction of the vaccine. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • FallsAngel

            Yes, jagoff, just like they dropped after the big epidemic of 1949 for two years, then peaked in 1952. It’s the nature of the virus.

          • AZ DONALD

            jagoff? classy when you’re a loser, I guess.

            so a perfectly straight line dropping from 58,000 cases to 18,000 cases is the ‘nature of the virus?’

            really, which scientific citation do you have for that absolute crock of bullshit?

            and then the drop continues from 18,000 to 2,000 in another straight line with the vaccine administered right in the MIDDLE yet absolutely no change in the decrease?

            really.

            the vaccine was administered right in the middle of about 3 years yet didn’t have one iota of an effect on the drop in polio cases?

            is that another “nature of the virus?” LOLOL

            absolute bullshit by a master bullshitter.
            .

          • AutismDadd

            Well done. joe is a moron

          • AZ DONALD

            for some reason (bosses) joe just cant bring himself to study the first chart on this site which CLEARLY shows a massive, almost complete drop in polio BEFORE the vaccine was introduced.

            https://vaccines.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=005964
            .

          • AutismDadd

            Well its IS joe after all

          • Mike Stevens

            Perhaps you should look at total US https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0da436af7fd34af190434797d2244730f929eb479b05f2a55cda09233e0916b.png polio cases…
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images

            Or look at those in the UK:
            /7df89b1b8b4451e2edd5809d51884d08c6f1a4ed87b82d80ce2470edbf8cac25.png

          • AZ DONALD

            completely false chart, doesn’t even have an x axis label.
            just more pro vaccine propaganda.

            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • Mike Stevens

            Lol…. couldn’t you see the chart was titled “Polio cases (1912-2001)”?
            What did you think the numbers meant?
            …the number of bananas you ate for breakfast?

            The data are official US Census Bureau notifications and official Public Health England figures for Polio.
            God you are stupid.

          • JoeFarmer

            “God you are stupid.”

            Quoted for emphasis.

          • AZ DONALD

            as the paid pharma schill ignores the chart just above his own post…

          • http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/ Reality022

            It is amazing how the number of cases, the incidence, of paralytic polio drops like a rock a year or 2 after the introduction of the vaccine to levels never seen before – virtually 0.
            It’s either the vaccine(s) or magic.
            .
            I also note that in other countries that did not have the infrastructure to mount an anti-polio campaign that the incidence of polio did not magically decline all by itself. In India, Pakistan, sub-Saharan Africa, etc., the incidence of polio continued unabated until a concerted anti-polio vaccination campaign was mounted. I also note the successes of those campaigns even in the absence of universal clean water and good, adequate food and hygiene.
            It seems the elimination of polio was directly caused by the vaccine used in the vaccination campaign…
            The anti-vax loons seem to ignore what was happening in the rest of the world when they point to the US experience because it destroys their lying “clean food and good hygiene saved us, not the polio vaccine” narrative.
            .
            Well, nobody ever accused the anti-vaccine cultists of being honest.

          • AZ DONALD

            what’s amazing is the drop like a rock in polio cases from it’s peak for 2 years BEFORE the introduction of the vaccine due to improved sanitation yet vaccines get the credit and big pharma gets the bucks.
            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • Brian

            Well, your chart is a lie.

            It even admits to changing the type of cases that are being counted starting in 1954.

            Why do anti-vaxxers lie so much?

          • AZ DONALD

            I was waiting for the discrediting of data, just a matter of time when you provaxxers run out of arguments.

            this data comes from procon.org.

            their mission is to present pros and cons of everything so as to make informed decisions on topics.

            I know this won’t sink in but here it is anyway.

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          • AZ DONALD

            and by the way, Brian.

            the GOVERNMENT changed the way they CATEGORIZED polio patients into paralytic and ?? groups. I can’t remember the other category.

            the bottom line is they still ADDED the two categories together to come out with a TOTAL for polio patients as a whole.

            does that clear it up for you or do you still want to slander and name-call to discredit anything that isn’t in line with your opinion?

          • Brian

            Still lying, I see.

            This has been explained to you over and over and over and over again, but apparently you’re incapable of learning even the basics. Here is the very source of your lying chart, showing that polio cases plummeted AFTER the vaccine was distributed.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e47fce6b9512a2bf3c3586112cc411b5417011250cfcd3ed1be0478b76d564ae.jpg

          • AutismDadd

            They should have washed their hands more.

          • joe

            And when it came to give out brains, God forgot about you.

          • AutismDadd

            Hardly moron.

          • joe

            In the United States in the-first forty-nine weeks of 1956, 15,128 cases
            of polio were reported to the Public Health Service. In 1955 over the
            corresponding period there were almost twice as many cases—28,816. This
            sharp decrease took place during the mass polio vaccination program
            which was begun in April, 1955

          • AZ DONALD

            it boggles the mind how you Big Pharma online troll shills have every talking point needed at hand IMMEDIATELY.

            YOU cherry pick incredibly short timelines to fill your agenda so lets look at longer periods instead of the short periods to fit your narrative.

            polio cases *PEAKED* just under *60,000 in 1953*.

            polio cases *DROPPED* to *14,000 by 1955* with NO vaccine.

            *60,000 polio cases to 14,000 BEFORE the vaccine because of improved sanitation*

            *THEN* the polio vaccine was introduced in 1955 and the minor downtrend continued which was obviously not from the vaccine.

            quite a different scenario than the lie you just presented, huh? which weeks of which year were you presenting?

            THEN all the credit for the continual lowering of polio cases was given to the VACCINE when it obviously wasn’t, yet shills like you continue the lie.

            don’t you fvc’kers have any shame?

            is it really worth the paycheck?

            it’s well known that polio cased dropped dramatically BEFORE the vaccine yet you will cherry pick just months for data and lie to defend your position.

            liars like you spread disinformation.

            the first chart in this link below proves that you are nothing but a paid for, lying schill.

            may you rot in hell or have some horrible, karma come back to you.

            I still can’t believe how you cherry picked a few months to prove your point which is an actual lie when you look at the bigger picture of years.

            https://vaccines.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=005964

          • AutismDadd

            joe posted a link below, explaining the importance of sanitation especially hand washing. Then thinks it supports vaccination. Simply HILARIOUS!

          • AZ DONALD

            actually HOW stupid is joe?

          • AutismDadd

            I don’t think we have a standard test that goes that low…

          • AutismDadd

            I thought polio was eradicated? If so we can’t go back there Einstein jr.

          • joe

            Well you thought wrong.

          • AutismDadd

            Then who is lying and giving vaccine all the credit?

          • joe

            You truly are a Pea Brain. so if we stop polio vaccination you think polio would not return, do you really believe that?

          • AutismDadd

            It has been claimed by the Pharmafia it was eradicated like smallpox.

          • Nim

            The only people who contracted polio in the U.S. in the past ten years, got it from the vaccine.

          • joe

            citation please (talk is cheap)

          • joe

            I am not just talking about the U.S.A. You do know there is a world out there? The U.S.A Is NOT the whole world.

          • joe

            still waiting for your citation

          • FallsAngel

            The live oral polio vaccine has not been used in the US since 1999. That is 18 years now. (I did the math for you; you AVs seem to have a hard time with it.) You can’t get polio from the inactivated vaccine.

            The last cases of polio (non-paralytic) were vaccine derived polio cases in Minnesota, 2005. The source of the vaccine was never determined.
            http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/09/polio-among-the-amish/
            http://www.post-polio.org/ir-usa.html

            No one has had polio in the last 10 years here in the US.

          • AutismDadd

            Yawn Bill Gates Foundation…try again. And where is it? In countries with virtually no sanitation.

          • sabelmouse

            out of millions! it’s amazing though how pros always have had friends and familiy die in above average numbers.

          • joe

            What on Earth are you rambling about?

          • AutismDadd

            Maybe sable can use small words so you understand.

          • joe

            Where is your citation, been waiting 5 days?

          • AutismDadd

            Better look it up yourself and save time you could use picking your nose and eating it.

          • joe

            No Dudd, you know how it works. You made the claim therefore the burden of proof is on you, OLD MAN.

          • AutismDadd

            No TWIT that ruse doesn’t work with me. If you truly and sincerely want to know, you’ll do the research yourself.

          • joe

            No Pea Brain, you know the rules, you made the claim, burden of proof is on YOU.

          • AutismDadd

            Rules that I reject

          • joe

            No surprise as you have no morals and you are a blatant liar

          • AutismDadd

            Are you lying again joe?

          • tomonthebay

            Maybe she could be coherent. Her post to Joe doesn’t make any sense.

          • AutismDadd

            I understood it. joe is a goof

          • AZ DONALD

            I understood it also.
            sable was saying that out of the millions of people out there, that these pro vaxxers always have dozens and dozens of friends or family who have died or become sick because of lack of a vaccine and it happens to them in astronomical numbers compared to the rest of us.

          • tomonthebay

            Joe is obviously of an age that he would have known polio victims based on the date he gave in the post. I personally knew 2 people with significant polio caused disability. One of them was an older classmate.

          • AZ DONALD

            relax tomon, I was just explaining what she meant since you seemed confused.

          • tomonthebay

            I reviewed the thread after your comment and got what she was saying. It is nonsense of course. I get annoyed when people try to explain away the reality of the millions of people that got to have a life thanks to vaccines,

          • AutismDadd

            joe is whack

          • tomonthebay

            Joe is pretty sensible.

          • joe

            Thanks Tom.

          • AZ DONALD

            hey joe,

            if you had only finished your high school education this wouldn’t have to be explained to you.

            you’re on your own, >LOL

          • joe

            I finished university, but by your comments I doubt that you actually finished 6th grade in Primary school, I am weary of your lame comments,crawl back in your hole slime ball.

          • AZ DONALD

            AAAAAAAAhahahahahaha, lolololo, OMG!

            good comeback, potsie but a degree in welding or plumbing isn’t what I was talking about, LOLOL.

            man, you just made my day. 🙂

          • joe

            Does not take much to make a simpletons day.

          • AutismDadd

            They love to use WORSE CASE SCENARIOS out there. I know of no one who died of measles, chicken pox, polio, smallpox, etc etc so where are they all? I do however get affirming reactions if discussing vaccine injury and connections to autism, and that almost everyone you speak to knows.

          • sabelmouse

            same

          • AZ DONALD

            hint hint, sable.
            they have to lie to win the fallacious argument….

          • AutismDadd

            But they didn’t die of cancer.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            Wrong.

          • Mary Sweeney

            Thank you. I share this story, but don’t bother sharing it. Look how much gets accomplished trying to communicate or share a personal story. Eaten up and spit out. I advocate now, after much success with early intervention after he regained his speech at 4yrs old, I have met so many parents with the same story with regression and autism characteristics setting in after vaccines, so many I cannot count. Thanks again, I hope they find this man for his family, and the “truth” can be revealed.

          • FallsAngel

            Seems you are not accepting the FACT that almost ALL people that NOW want vaccination to be a CHOICE, NOT a government mandate

            Not so fast! Take a look at this: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/17/5-facts-about-vaccines-in-the-u-s/
            “1.A vast majority of Americans view childhood vaccines as safe.
            2. Although majorities of all major demographic groups say vaccines are safe, some groups are more skeptical than others. . . And 14% of those with a high school diploma or less believe that vaccines are unsafe, compared with just 6% of those with some college experience or more.”
            Want to tell us about your educational attainment?
            “3.Roughly two-thirds of American adults support mandatory childhood vaccinations, but younger adults are more likely to say vaccinating children should be a parental choice. A Pew Research survey conducted in 2014 found that 68% of U.S. adults agree that all children should be required to be vaccinated, while 30% say vaccinating children should be a parental choice. These overall views have changed little since 2009, when 69% of the public said childhood vaccinations should be required.

            Yet while opinions on this issue were similar across age groups in 2009, the 2014 survey shows that younger adults are more likely to support parental choice: 41% of 18- to 29-year-olds believe parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children, compared with only 20% of adults ages 65 or older. While there are no significant differences on this question by race, education, income or gender, a multivariate logistic regression analysis finds that more Hispanics tend to say vaccines should be required compared with non-Hispanic whites.”
            It is my experience as well that many Hispanic parents are supportive of vaccines.
            “4. Democrats are somewhat more likely than Republicans or independents to say childhood vaccinations should be required.
            5. Only three states – Mississippi, West Virginia and now California – do not allow religious or personal exemptions to vaccines.”

          • kfunk937

            I will never understand why these folks don’t know that they’re (rightly) a fringe. But then again we have a whole lot of fringers who think that they’re at the centre of a movement…

          • Acleron

            Oops, is that another antivaxxer alternative fact that’s just been shot down?

          • AutismDadd

            you mean shart down

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake

            I agree that vaccines should be a choice. That doesn’t mean I think that choices should come without consequences though.

          • FallsAngel

            Yes, but I do think in times of a public health emergency, such as that which precipitated Jacobson vs Mass, that vaccine could be made mandatory.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake

            Agreed with some caveats that I’m not going into right now.

          • AutismDadd

            Oh so Americans are all vaccine experts now, particularly the ones covered in wool. And also now a SURVEY is considered important vaccine science.

          • AutismDadd

            Better to be a nutbag than a nutsack

          • AZ DONALD

            hey AutismDadd.
            just curious, do you have an autistic child?

          • AutismDadd

            yes

          • AZ DONALD

            God bless you Dadd.

            as much as these big pharma paid shills piss me off it must drive you insane.

            I post link after link to vaxxed so they can see the sheer volume of families affected immediately after inoculation yet none will watch them PLUS they come back to slander me about YouTube not being scientific evidence.

            SOB’s, every last one and they deserve to burn in hell someday.

          • AutismDadd

            Thanks, and agreed. A special place in HELL hopefully.

          • AutismDadd

            Says the Wakefield conspiracy nutsack.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Nope. I’ll scream bs because it’s bs. It’s not that confusing.

          • AutismDadd

            OMG what a vulgar juvenile response. Gang flag folks, we don’t need rabble like this posting

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Stfu, you juvenile fckwit.

          • AutismDadd

            People start your flagging!!!

          • AZ DONALD

            please explain how to do that as FSMP is an obvious big pharma troll who does nothing but insult and name-call.
            probably hasn’t clicked on one link opposing his (paid) view.

          • AZ DONALD

            I figured it out, the down arrow on the right.

          • AutismDadd

            At the right of names are two small – V roughly click on the arrow

          • AutismDadd

            True. Maybe media wants to live NOT perish

        • FaintCryofFreedom

          You are incorrect. Search his full name on Google. You will find articles out there about his disappearance on reputable sites.

          • Mike Stevens

            So show me where he ever said anything about flu vaccine, will you?

          • AZ DONALD
          • Mike Stevens

            No, it’s just the same fake news from a different source.
            Please show me this man said anything about flu vaccination, would you?
            Just going “La la la I can’t hear you” isn’t a response.

          • Mike McCall

            Who ties your shoes? RaintCryofFreedom? several times now you have chimed in with the same type set… Yes he is missing, he lives just down the street from me………. What has never happened is this missing man talking about any type of outbreak,,, Jezus get a clue.

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            And again, do a little searching. You’ll find some information.

        • Nim

          Edward, read a vaccine insert. It’s all there.

          • AZ DONALD

            half of these people are paid professional defenders of big pharma and the other half are just ignorant of the damage vaccines have done because they haven’t personally experienced a tragic event, Nim.

            I post a few months old study done by Jackson state university which compared homeschoolers to homeschoolers which showed a 30x increase in sickness from the vaccinated over non vaccinated group and people like FSMP are ‘laughing their asses off’. he’s laughing over the pain of a nurse mother who gave the vaccine to her daughter who eventually died. yeah, that’s real entertainment.

            they have absolutely no empathy for the millions of kids made sick and can do nothing but be sarcastic and insultive.

            *Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Mawson Homeschooled Study Reveals Who is Sicker*
            http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker
            .
            .

          • AutismDadd

            FSMP is the equivalent of dog turd.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            No, it isn’t, you simpleton.

      • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

        If by “this climate” you mean YourNewsWire, no.

    • Mike Stevens

      Because it’s all fake news.

      • FaintCryofFreedom

        A bit of due diligence, a quick search on Google reveals that this Doctor is indeed missing. Being reported on perfectly reputable sites.

        • Mike Stevens

          He’s missing, sure, but he never said anything about flu vaccine.

          • AZ DONALD
          • Mike Stevens

            Another fake news source….
            ….seriously???

            Let’s see where this person stated anything about the flu vaccine.

          • Patrick Hydorn

            If you read the article then you should know he wanted to be anonymous, but if anything happened to him he wanted the reporter to go public which he just obviously did.

          • AZ DONALD

            mike can’t read, only spew feces.

          • Jim Simolari

            how do you think everyone found out then goofball

          • Mike Stevens

            Who found out what?
            Here are the steps. Take them real slowly…

            1. Fake News blog makes up a ridiculous fake conspiracy that says some unnamed person in the CDC claimed the flu vaccine was causing the flu.
            2. A CDC employee (who has nothing to do with the flu outbreak or the flu vaccine) goes missing (fact).
            3. Fake News blog invents a bogus story trying to link the fact to the conspiracy.
            4. Everyone with their heads wrapped in tinfoil (you included) goes: “Woooo! …Evil conspiracy!”

          • Josh

            Mike Stevens, yes, the flu reports related to this CDC employee seem to be trumped up. But we know he did in fact go suspiciously missing. But another fact, is that the CDC chief recently resigned because of personal investments in tobacco and pharmaceuticals coming to light. So, while the flu news seems trumped up, it’s reasonable to ask the question, in an ongoing investigation, was there foul play related to this man’s work. Reasonable questions from both sides must be asked to get anywhere. Much like with vaccines themselves, any 100% pro or 100% con position can’t be the height of wisdom. Obviously, there are certain times and certain vaccines that are more indicated than others; and yet we are somehow pushed in the conversation to a 100% pro or anti-vaccine stance. Rather than a more rational risk assessment. So….I’m sticking with the current evidence….this man’s disappearance may or may not be related to industry-influence CDC corruption. Is this a reasonable stance?

          • Brian

            Nope. Not very reasonable.

          • Mike Stevens

            “this man’s disappearance may or may not be related to industry-influence CDC corruption. Is this a reasonable stance?”

            I accept that it is possible, but it seems highly improbable.
            Consider, if an employee of a car firm had gone missing, would we be considering his disappearance was due to automobile industry corruption? Hardly.
            There isn’t any smoke here, let alone any fire.

            1. The story broke about what is quite definitely fake news about an anonymous CDC doctor saying flu vaccine was causing flu and killing people. We know that this is not so, based on medical scientific evidence.
            2. Conveniently, a CDC employee happened to go missing a week or so after Baxter Dimitry wrote his fake news item.
            3. It is clear these are unlikely to be the same person, since the first story (before it was re-edited by Dmitry – …don’t these fake news trolls even try and hide their nationality anymore?) stated that the CDC doctor was personally administering vaccines to people who subsequently died.
            Dr Cunningham is not an MD however, and he would never be in a position to be administering vaccinations to clinical patients. In fact, even the CDC MDs don’t do clinical work like vaccinating patients for seasonal flu.
            4. It is also pretty unfeasible that several patients of one doctor died after flu vaccination and were just labelled as dying from flu. The flu deaths have been logged far and wide accross the country, but a spate of several under the care of a single doctor would raise massive red flags that some odd phenomenon was taking place.
            5. It is clear that the disappearance of Dr Cunningham was a convenient coincidence for YourNewsWire, and enabled them to stoke the fires of conspiracy. This they do by now claiming the anonymous doctor gave instructions that should “anything happen to him” they could reveal his name. …What garbage.

            Thanks, Dmitry, your bosses in St Petersberg must be proud of you. Oh, and btw, Dimitry, for your pic I’d suggest you don’t use one of yourself standing opposite the Hermitage Museum – that’s a dead giveaway.

          • joe

            A STUNNING reply.KUDOS.

          • AutismDadd

            A stunned reply. weirdos

          • joe

            Still waiting for your citation

          • AutismDadd

            That was it

          • joe

            Still waiting, 5 days now.

          • AutismDadd

            Keep waiting, I can do this forever

          • joe

            I know, I am just proving to other posters here that you are all yap and no substance, you yap with no evidence to back you up. OLD MAN WITH FAULTY GENES.

          • AutismDadd

            No joe, you are exposing yourself as a twit.

          • AZ DONALD

            why are all the pro vaxxers vile, foul mouthed twits?
            i never start it, I always give someone one or two namecalling events at me but then i’m relentless against them.
            then the twit who calls everyone JagOff, until i started using it on her, accuses me of being foul using the F word when it’s always in retaliation.
            they’re dumber than rocks and have to be paid trolls.

          • AutismDadd

            I’ve met bags of potatoes with more intelligence than FalseAngel and cross dresser joe josephine . But vulgar they are. We learn power words as children and that includes swearing. They have much growing up to do. They still bow to authority and that’s why they believe what they are told by government and media.

          • joe

            Still waiting for your citation OLD MAN WITH FAULTY GENES.

          • AZ DONALD

            making fun of a parents autistic child.
            you really are a disgusting piece of sh!t

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            well and rightly said sir, at least if joe actually believes autism is genetic, but everyone knows that’s only fractionally true since there is no such thing as a genetic epidemic.

          • joe

            Wow what an educated reply NOT.

          • AutismDadd

            Tell us about genetic epidemics joe and don’t leave anything out.

          • joe

            Soon as you provide the evidence that I have been waiting for 7 days now.

          • AutismDadd

            So you can’t provide it…check!

          • AutismDadd

            I told you, try a laxative

          • AutismDadd

            Don’t get joe going on a genetic epidemic, he may get vulgar.

          • Mary

            They should ask how their beloved scientists INDUCE AUTISM in mice (or is it rats or both) to then study WHAT causes it!

            AND then there’s the so called gene mutation that if vaccinated will TRIGGER AUTISM as admitted by the former Director of the CDC Julie Gerberding, on a CNN interview in 2008.

            Now if this exists
            1. Why are not children tested before being vaccinated for this mutation???
            2. How is it they purport that the mutation is a predisposition when: a) the Hepatitis B vaccine and the Vitamin K vaccine are given at birth before the MMR, which could have been the culprits for the mutation to begin with
            b) and so could be all the neurotoxins given at labor to the mother such as pain medications, epidural, labor inducement meds etc etc
            c) as well as the preclamping of the umbilical cord and the premature cutting so that the hospital can save its stem cells, which should drain back into the newborn, for profit
            d) epigenetics have long been citing that ENVIRONMENT turns genes on or off. It’s even cited as the mayor cause of cancer on the CDC site!!

            None of those consequences and more have been explored.

          • AZ DONALD

            superb post mary.
            don’t expect any of the rabid, paid pro vaxxers to read, comprehend or even watch the info you posted but thanks for the education anyway.

          • AutismDadd

            I agree joe=pos

          • AutismDadd

            Go back to flipping those burgers, break’s over

          • joe

            Not everyone is a the low level that you are, liar

          • AutismDadd

            You take out crew members always think you’re superior.

          • AutismDadd

            another brain shart from joe

          • Acleron

            Lol, everyone who has ever experienced you knows you can never produce any evidence. It is asked for to continually expose you as nothing more than a liar. Now go and catch more flies with your mouth Duddy.

          • AutismDadd

            Quiet child the adults are talking.

          • Acleron

            And so bereft of brain matter he can only repeat what others have said to him.

          • AutismDadd

            Is this more self talk?

          • Acleron

            Duddy Boy demonstrating he doesn’t even know himself. I’ll give you a clue, you copied me as you do everyone else.

          • AutismDadd

            That’s not a clue its more like poo

          • AutismDadd

            Try a laxative

          • joe

            This post is for all the lurkers. As you have not provided a citation, it proves you are a liar.

          • AutismDadd

            What’s a lurker? Is it like a tooth fairy?

          • DebateBothSides

            Mike Stevens Joe &? Seems the “pro-vaccine team” just blindly restates information provided. Intelligent people tend to ask a lot of questions. Too many who are clearly pro vaccinations are 100% pro- You seem to suggest it is not REASONABLE to ASK questions and find that the answers might be a middle ground/sometimes true/sometimes not —

            –“Reasonable questions from both sides must be asked …..Much like with vaccines themselves, any 100% pro or 100% con position can’t be the height of wisdom. Obviously, there are certain times and certain vaccines that are more indicated than others; and yet we are somehow pushed in the conversation to a 100% pro or anti-vaccine stance.”
            –This is where the insanity is, no questions = Blind acceptance. RE Statistics: “Objectivity is a frame of mind so that personal prejudices, preferences or predilections of the…scientists do not contaminate the collection of analysis of data.”

          • joe

            We only have to look at what vaccination has achieved in my lifetime (72 years ) to know that vaccination is a great leap forward for mankind. I pick up my granddaughter from school and I do not see children walking around with a caliper on their legs due to Polio, I do not hear about the hundreds dying from Measles every year, I do not hear about the thousands injured every year for life, resulting from measles, nobody suffers from smallpox any more because it has been eradicated by vaccination. Yes there is some side effects for a few people, nothing that man makes is perfect, EVERY medical procedure carries some risk, so you have to ask yourself, “Do I want to go back to pre-vaccination days where hundreds died every year and thousands are maimed and crippled for life every year” I would suggest that any sane person would answer “NO” The pro disease crowd lie and claim that vaccination kills but not ONE of has been able to prove that, they also claim vaccination cause Autism, this also has been debunked yet they still insist it does, Autismdad that posts here is an example of that insistence.

          • AutismDadd

            joe, you wanna cracker?

          • DebateBothSides

            Your response is not a response to the prior comment. Your are once again restating information and opinion with out consideration of what was just said… I will state part of the quote for you, perhaps you can THINK instead of reply from canned language box. ::: “Reasonable questions from both sides must be asked …..”Much like with vaccines themselves, any 100% pro or 100% con position can’t be the height of wisdom. Obviously, there are certain times and certain vaccines that are more indicated than others; and yet we are somehow pushed in the conversation to a 100% pro or anti-vaccine stance.” Good night Australia.

          • joe

            Yeah rack off.

          • FallsAngel

            What’s the question, DBS?

          • shay simmons

            DBS is our old friend Mary S.

          • FallsAngel

            I don’t remember her.

          • shay simmons

            She was all about her gut instinct.

          • FallsAngel

            OK. Still doesn’t ring a bell, but whatevs.

          • AutismDadd

            Good one “canned language box”

          • Nim

            Joe,……Incidence of Polio was plummeting BEFORE the vaccine was introduced in the U.S. Europe had polio also,…..the incidence there was also plummeting, AND CONTINUED TO PLUMMET, AND THEY DID NOT VACCINATE FOR POLIO! Again, educate yourself. You may have had 2 vaccine……probably smallpox and polio. Today’s children get about 64 by the time they are 6 years old. We have traded harmless childhood viruses like measles, mumps, chicken pox, rubella, that most EVERYONE, including me, in my elementary school contracted….no one died! We have traded them for seizures, eczema, cancer, leukemia, learning disabilities, autism, SIDS, and God knows what else.

          • Acleron

            In the US, polio cases were increasing before vaccination, not decreasing. Try reading the whole graph.
            http://faculty.wagner.edu/lori-weintrob/jonas-salk/

          • Nim

            Ya,……I see one graph there, and it show exactly what I said….polio was ALREADY decreasing.

          • Acleron

            You cannot see each peak higher than any before? Really?

          • FallsAngel

            Gads, not another one!

          • Acleron

            Opticians should be making a fortune.

          • Mike Stevens
          • AutismDadd

            Shows a down trend BEFORE the inactivated vaccine. Thanks Mike.

          • AZ DONALD
          • AutismDadd

            Just depends who makes the graph

          • Acleron

            Does your delusion produce auditory hallucinations as well?

          • AutismDadd

            Are you blind as well as deaf and dumb?

          • AZ DONALD
          • AZ DONALD

            nim, you are right and arguing with these guys is a losing battle. I quit replying to all of their insults and attacks a couple days ago and all they did was continue talking to each other attacking us just baiting and baiting because that’s how the pharma shills get paid, per post. of course they have to have discourse to get the dollars. usually it’s just one with multiple aliases to make it look like a gang or sometimes its several. unfortunately then other provaxxers chime in supporting the paid shills unbeknownst to them. this occurs in vaccine boards just as in political boards. during the last administration they had banks of bloggers, paid and unpaid to disrupt chatrooms. no different here, big pharma has big bucks to pay ‘jimmy’ and give him a talking points book with answers to every imaginable scenario. they have fake sites and even after the CDC was exposed for covering up the autism-black boys data they still use them as an ‘official’ data source.

            give up because the more we reply the more $$ they make until they go onto the next blog.

            sickening group of people.

            and like I said, you were right, here’s the chart from an extremely unbiased group who prides themselves on being impartial be it medical or political.

            click on it for a bigger image.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • Acleron

            You stopped arguing when the evidence proved you were wrong. So all you have left are baseless accusations. Pathetic

          • Demaris Forsythe

            No, you dumb ass. MORTALITY was declining due to better medical care, including the use of iron lungs. MORBIDITY did NOT decline until there was a vaccine. Stop lying. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccines-didnt-save-us-intellectual-dishonesty-at-its-most-naked/

          • Barbara Mattia

            Hey nappy head Demaris, how many sites do you go around to calling people dumb ass. Your mode of operation is so typical of angry woman haters. Again, you offer nothing to debates so go stick your head back up your ass. Everyone should ban this dude who hides behind of profile of being women but likes to call everyone cunts. He is a troll to the nth degree and not worth your time. He has been reported to authorities for posting death threats. That is the type of low life scum he is.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            What is WITH you and the “nappy head” shit? You are dumber than a box of rocks, honey. But you are a hoot.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            So you can’t refute the point because I’m right. Good to know.

          • joe

            You might like to read this http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/polio

          • AutismDadd

            Now Joe is spamming the forums with marketing. But he’s not a shill folks…

          • joe

            You would not know spam if it hit you in the face

          • joe

            You call measles harmless, are you for REAL?. Did you know that before vaccination up to five hundred died from measles every year and thousands were maimed and crippled every year, and that was just in the U.S.A, Now you want to blame vaccination for eczema, cancer, Autism, are you for Real,? You have shown me that it is you that needs an education.

          • Nim

            Well, Ya…..before people started washing their hands! PLEASE,…..This is such a waste…..This site is NOT eo educate,…it is to BASH AND MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE,……Just stupid…..If you want to know about vaccines,,….Read the an insert with a fine tooth comb,….you NEED one….Go to VAERS…..Look at the billions of dollars paid out to vaccine injured children or to famalies of children that died from vaccines. Get off this site…….it is a Bashing Site,…..no more than that!n. Good luck everyone…..educate yourself….Go to Learn the Risk,….join Stop Mandatory Vaccination,…..Go to VacTruth…….

          • Acleron

            I only wish you would get an education. Learn how to read a scientific paper then learn about disease states and read the papers that demonstrate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines and stop reading insane conspiracy sites.

          • Nim

            Acleron,……You act like the ONLY people speaking up about vaccines are people that have no medical or science background at all. And THAT is simply NOT TRUE. There are many, many, doctors and scientists and medical professionals that are questioning vaccines, against vaccines, or simple NOT vaccinating their own children. So, please don’t pretend that there are no medical professionals or scientients against vaccines. Some people cannot stand that fact, so the minute someone in the field speaks out against vaccines, they are labeled crazy or a quack, or ostracized in some way. Listen,….You want to listen to the CDC and inject yourself and your family, go ahead!

          • Acleron

            Of course there are medical researchers who question the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, that’s why they do high quality research. The difference between them and you is that they accept the results and move on. Those who deny the results are antivaxxers.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake
          • billorights

            Here’s one medical doctor who has spoken out against vaccines for decades now.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNapjnWM91k

          • Acleron

            Does he have any scientific evidence for his claims?

          • joe

            What a load of Gish-Gallop.

          • joe

            “vacTruth” surely you jest, and yes I will bash and make fun of the Pro- Disease crowd. “Children that died from vaccines”–citation please.

          • Nim

            Joe, it is clear you have never reserarched ANY information from ANY site or study, other than what the CDC and the pharmaceuticals have written. And you also have never know anyone whose child has been injured or died because of the result of shots. Put Hope From Holly in your search bar. Holly was a beautiful, vibrant 5 year old girl that went for her second round of MMR vaccine for kindergarten…….5 hours after the shot she was on life support. This is just one of thousands of children that have suffered because of vaccines. You are not seeing the real, whole and true picture,…..

          • joe

            And yet you have never provided a single citation that states vaccination kills, why is that? I have had the misfortune of my infant and as yet unvaccinated Godson die in my arms from Whooping cough so don’t peddle your anti-vaccine prattle to me.

          • Acleron

            My condolences joe, that is awful.

          • joe

            Thanks, it was a long time ago but it is something that I can not forget, it makes me very passionate when it comes to vaccination, I simply hate the pro-disease crowd.

          • Acleron

            I can appreciate that.
            My father died in 1964 of a perforated stomach ulcer, something that these days is easily prevented, so I also despise these anti medicine and anti science groups. I was child when mass vaccination occurred, I saw kids wearing calipers and wards of iron lungs so I cannot but treat these liars for their antivaxxer agenda with scorn.

          • joe

            Yes I was also there in the 1950s they were bad times with regards to vaccine preventable diseases, I would like to transport the pro-disease crowd to the early 1950s and see how they would react. My pet hate is “Measles is s harmless childhood disease” YEAH RIGHT.

          • AZ DONALD

            I completely agree, joe…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24b36c3b8b999ec87719b89087bc10076c9816fffaeb304b4b0f9d73c20161bc.png
            .
            {My pet hate is “Measles (VACCINES) are harmless….”}
            .
            In Loving Memory of Holly Marie Stavola
            January 18, 1995 – February 4, 2000
            .
            SHE DIED FROM ACUTE ENCEPHALITIS CAUSED BY THE MMR VACCINE.
            .
            (but hey, she didn’t get that risky measles disease, now did she?)
            .

          • Mary

            I had the measles. And the chicken pox. I’m here.

            What did more damage to me was the damned mercury amalgam fillings, thank to the medical dental profession.

          • AZ DONALD

            funny thing mary, me too.
            i’m 60 and I think I remember the measles parties.
            i’ll let you know after I talk to my 84 year old mom later today.

            everyone screams about the 500 kids killed each year who didn’t get vaccines yet they COMPLETELY IGNORE the tens of thousands of kids who died or became literal retards each year from vaccine damage. what an absolute lack of common sense.

          • Mary

            Internist and Nephrologist Dr Suzanne Humphries takes you through some vaccine history
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkNmMHyWGNg

          • Mary

            Ha! Did you know that was because the medical profession did not want to believe that a bacteria causes ulcers because they were firm on continuing to believe -UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO- that bacteria were all killed by stomach acid! Even when evidence was being served up to them! (Sorry about your father.)

            But did you know that holistic medicine millennia tested was curing ulcers already? One way – because nature is diverse- was-is with cabbage juice! But again since the system gag-ordered natural anything in favor of patented industrial chemicals, that very useful factual bit of information would have saved your father’s life. So sorry for their relentless stubbornness and greed.

          • Acleron

            Barry Marshall’s work on Helicobacter didn’t even start until 1982. He had insufficient evidence for his claim that H. caused peptic ulcers until 1985. With solid evidence then it was readily accepted by the medical community.

            So what is your solid scientific evidence that cabbage juice cures stomach ulcers?

          • AZ DONALD

            you are on a roll, mary.
            please keep posting and showing the ignorance of these (paid) provaxxers.
            actually it’s not ignorance, it’s one person posting as several and getting $$$ for it by big pharma.
            they’re called trolls.
            should they rot in hell for selling their soul.

          • AZ DONALD

            I know you will ignore this just like you guys ignore any vaccine facts but here it is:

            http://hopefromholly.com/blog/

          • tomonthebay

            Got my first round of the shingles vaccine today Joe. Back in 2 months to get the other one. I like the idea of removing shingles from the list of the indignities of aging!

          • Mary

            SHINGLES VACCINES

            Zostavax (Herpes Zoster Vaccine)
            https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/QuestionsaboutVaccines/ucm070418.htm

            According to the FDA’s info above (just the leaflet – the package insert follows later below), it does not look like a worthwhile thing to do, because, get this:

            1. Zostavax is only for people above the age of 50 and becomes LESS effective after 60.

            2. It DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING SHINGLES.

            IT REDUCES the chance you will get it by only 50% – that’s the best it will do IF you are between 50-60.
            If you’re older, the reduction of chances for getting it is way less. Meaning your chances of getting it with the vaccine is 82% high than the 50%. Do you want to be protected by only 18% with the risks of the vaccine?

            The FDA site says this
            “….helps to reduce the risk of getting herpes zoster (shingles) in individuals 50 years of age and older. Zostavax is the only US licensed vaccine that reduces the risk of reactivation of the varicella zoster virus…”

            See..? “REDUCE the risk”…. “reduces the risk of reactivation”
            NOT prevent you from contracting shingles.

            It’s not a preventative – it’s simply a reductionist. – If it worked!

            3. Zostavax is a LIVE virus !!!

            Studies have shown that live virus vaccines are not a good thing, and spreads it more than the disease. Many live vaccines have been taken off the market because of this. Keep reading it tells you why…

            Live viruses causes the spread of the virus. And in these FDA statements you can see the warning of this:

            “….Also, people who are in close contact with pregnant women who have not had chickenpox should talk to their healthcare provider to decide if using Zostavax is right for them.”

            Why would you ask your doctor if having the shingles vaccine is right for you just because you’re close to a pregnant woman who has never had the chicken pox?!? What does that say?

            It says you may pass on the live shingles virus to the pregnant woman because she does not have chicken pox immunity. (And yet another confirm that having chicken pox creates immunity.)

            4. “….The effectiveness of Zostavax in preventing repeated episodes of shingles has not been demonstrated in clinical studies.”

            Whaaa?!!
            They have NOT seen in studies that it prevents you from getting shingles again.

            A bit more info:

            “What should I tell my health care provider before I get ZOSTAVAX? “
            You should :

            “Tell your health care provider if you expect to be in close contact (including household contact) with newborn infants, someone who may be pregnant and has not had chickenpox or been vaccinated against chickenpox, or someone who has problems with their immune system. Your health care provider can tell you what situations you may need to avoid. “

            [Wha again???

            Don’t get near:

            newborn infants,

            someone who may be pregnant and

            has not had chickenpox or been vaccinated against chickenpox, or

            someone who has problems with their immune system.

            ……WHEN VACCINATED WITH SHINGLES???????]

            “Can I get ZOSTAVAX with other vaccines? “

            “Talk to your health care provider if you plan to get ZOSTAVAX at the same time as the flu vaccine. “

            “Talk to your health care provider if you plan to get ZOSTAVAX at the same time as PNEUMOVAX® 23
            because it may be better to get these vaccines at least 4 weeks apart. “

            “What are the possible side effects of ZOSTAVAX? “

            “The following additional side effects have been reported with ZOSTAVAX:

            • allergic reactions, which may be serious and may include difficulty in breathing or swallowing. If you have an allergic reaction, call your doctor right away.

            • chickenpox [!!!!!!!!!!!!) YOU MAY GET CHICKENPOX!!!]

            • fever

            • hives at the injection site
            • joint pain

            • muscle pain
            • nausea
            • rash

            • rash at the injection site

            • shingles [!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU MAY GET THE VERY VIRUS YOU’RE GETTING VAXXED FOR!!!]

            • swollen glands near the injection site (that may last a few days to a few weeks) “

            “Tell your healthcare provider if you have any new or unusual symptoms after you receive ZOSTAVAX.
            For a complete list of side effects, ask your health care provider. “

            [^^^^^ Wha?!?!? This is NOT A COMPLETE LIST OF SIDE EFFECTS, AND I HAVE TO ASK MY DOCTOR FOR THE COMPLETE LIST??????

            Which means he has to ask Pharma?]

            “You may also report these events to ….. directly to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).The VAERS
            toll free number is 1-800-822-7967 or report online to http://www.vaers.hhs.gov. “

            Here is the shingles vaccine package insert with

            ADVERSE EFFECTS and EFFECTS POST MARKET RELEASE:

            https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/z/zostavax/zostavax_pi2.pdf

            Go to #5

            “5. WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS

            5.2 Transmission of Vaccine Virus

            Transmission of vaccine virus may occur between vaccinees and susceptible contacts.”

            [YOU CAN GET THE VACCINE VIRUS

            AND

            GIVE IT TO OTHERS!!!]

            Keep reading for MORE adverse effects!

            And these are not the only problems the shingles and chickenpox vaccines are creating – but that’s not in this insert!

            Get with it! Inform yourself!

          • AZ DONALD

            STOP IT MARY JUST STOP IT
            YOU ARE JUST MAKING TOO MUCH SENSE !!!

          • tomonthebay

            Got Shingrix, not Zostavax. Very different.

          • Peter Olins

            Seeing an infant struggling to draw each breath due to a whooping cough infection is a horrific sight. This disease is one my earliest childhood memories.

          • Mary

            Ha! Both my child and I got the whooping cough RIGHT AFTER SHE WAS VACCINATED. Not only that, she had reactions to the vaccines and developed dyslexia which she did not have and other physical and learning conditions.

            Whooping cough is easily cured in 24 hours or less with high dosages of vitamin C. This is known before the present medical system.

          • Peter Olins

            My, my, you are a veritable fountain of knowledge! You know how to cure both whooping cough AND stomach ulcers. Have you ever thought of sharing this knowledge, or writing a book?

            The fun thing about being an anonymous internet commenter is that you can get your jollies by making things up and getting other people riled up.
            Grow up, Mary.

          • AutismDadd

            Blame the parents then

          • Acleron

            Thank you Duddy Boy but we already knew you are vile.

          • AutismDadd

            I thought you’d say vial

          • AZ DONALD

            here’s a citation she provided yet you ignore

            http://hopefromholly.com/blog/

            Holly died from acute encephalitis caused by the MMR vaccine.

            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24b36c3b8b999ec87719b89087bc10076c9816fffaeb304b4b0f9d73c20161bc.png

          • Mary

            So so sorry Joe for your terrible tragedy (I just saw this prior to other replies). Losing or experiencing a disabled child is a devastating life altering experience no matter the cause results from illness or medical consequences .

            In response to citations, perhaps better hear a vaccine history from Internist and Nephrologust Dr Suzanne Humphries and her many videos:
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkNmMHyWGNg

          • joe

            Thank you.

          • AZ DONALD

            “And yet you have never provided a single citation that states vaccination kills”

            and as usual, joe, you didn’t even read, absorb OR listen to what Nim had said because of your blind activism.

            here’s what Nim said which you COMPLETELY ignored: “Put ‘Hope From Holly’ in your search bar”

            if you did you would have been disgusted by what happened to holly within 2 days but you really don’t care, do you?

            it’s against your agenda, right?

          • joe

            No it is the Pro Disease mob like you that would like to do away with vaccination so that we could have 400 hundred “Holly’s” die every year from the Measles. you make me sick, as I said to you before, crawl back in your hole slimeball

          • AZ DONALD

            you completely diverted my (and nims) comments into a completely different direction because you can’t answer them.

            “And yet you have never provided a single citation that states vaccination kills”

            and as usual, joe, you didn’t even read, absorb OR listen to what Nim had said because of your blind activism.

            here’s what Nim said which you COMPLETELY ignored: “Put ‘Hope From Holly’ in your search bar”

            if you did you would have been disgusted by what happened to holly within 2 days but you really don’t care, do you?

            it’s against your agenda, right?
            .

          • Acleron

            Can you explain how MMR can cause a weakening of an artery wall, a bulge and a rupture all in 5 hours?

          • AZ DONALD
          • John Juenger

            So sad!!!

          • AutismDadd

            so feel autism is from vaccine encephalitis. Poor Holly

          • AZ DONALD

            but somehow it must be Holly’s fault, weak immune system or something…

            “After Holly suffered a severe reaction to the vaccine, leaving her convulsing, brain damaged and on life support, her family was told by the doctors that Holly would remain in a vegetative state and would not recover. Holly’s parents felt helpless and they reluctantly agreed to have their daughter removed from life support.”
            .

          • AutismDadd

            So tragic. There are those who feels SIDS children, if they lived would possibly be autistic.

          • sabelmouse

            🙁

          • Nim

            If you want to know, talk to the doctors that agreed the MMR caused the damage to Holly,…..Her family won in “vaccine court”,……and you just about need a note from GOD to win there. Parents are not even told there is a vaccine court they can appeal to, so few get reviewed there. Joe,…You should continue to believe whatever you want, but, there are huge numbers of people, many in the medical field that disagree with you. The genie has been let out of the bottle, and there’s no going back in……………..

          • Acleron

            A successful claim in a vaccine court normally only needs documentation of vaccination and table injury. I don’t have a belief, I leave that to you, I follow the evidence.

          • Nim

            There are medical doctors and scientists that have also followed the evidence and they believe and know vaccines are toxic and are hurting our children. And what you said above about a claim only needs documentation and table injury is not true,…….plenty of people have that evidence, and are turned down for compensation. Thousands more never even try to get compensation because they do not know there is a vaccine court. Nothing more to say to you, keep injecting if you want,…..not my problem.

          • Acleron

            Then bring on this evidence that vaccines cause more than one in a million injuries. Also try reading the American legislation concerning vaccine courts, it will prove you wrong.

          • AutismDadd

            Tell us how that’s scary

          • AutismDadd

            Poor Holly….how awful. The Miracle vaccine claims another victim.

          • AZ DONALD

            to put a little perspective into this:

            In Loving Memory of Holly Marie Stavola
            January 18, 1995 – February 4, 2000
            She died from acute encephalitis caused by the MMR vaccine.
            (but hey, she didn’t get that risky measles, did she?)

            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24b36c3b8b999ec87719b89087bc10076c9816fffaeb304b4b0f9d73c20161bc.png

          • AutismDadd

            Point made. Vaccines should be a choice and the truth told about outcomes like this. Imagine the 176 countries we never hear about. Only 19 compensate.

          • AutismDadd

            joe’s usual denial routine w/o a shred of evidence.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            Nope. Wrong. You show just how ignorant you are. Read what I posted about vaccines and polio, you numpty. Measles is NOT harmless. The year before there was a vaccine, it killed over 400 people in the US alone. Rubella caused thousands of fetuses to die. Vaccines do not cause seizure disorders, eczema, cancer , leukemia, learning disabilities , autism, or SIDS. SIDS rates are halved in vaccinated children, you idiot.

          • Barbara Mattia

            Again, Hey nappy head Demaris, how many sites do you go around to calling people dumb ass. Your mode of operation is so typical of angry woman haters. Again, you offer nothing to debates so go stick your head back up your ass. Everyone should ban this dude who hides behind of profile of being women but likes to call everyone cunts. He is a troll to the nth degree and not worth your time. He has been reported to authorities for posting death threats. That is the type of low life scum he is.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            You’re so cute, dear.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            How hard is it for you to get this through your skull? I’m female, you idiot.

          • joe

            What vile language, and from a woman, and yet you complain about Demaris.

          • AutismDadd

            joe is a serious contender for nimrod of the year.

          • Acleron

            Little Duddy Boy’s ignorance extends to biblical mythology.

          • AutismDadd

            Who gives a rat ass about that?

          • AZ DONALD

            you are absolutely right Nim and big pharma has billions to pay shills like this to disrupt message boards all across the net.

            click the image for a larger one.
            . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png

          • Nim

            Well you have to prove it to the government’s “vaccine court”, if you make a claim,…..because vaccine manufacturers, (drug companies) are NOT liable if their product kills or damages you or your child. And the “vaccine court” had already paid out billions of dollars to families who were able to PROVE the vaccine killed or damaged their child. And it is estimated only about 1% of the injured even report their misfortune,…….VERY FEW people even know they can bring their case to this court. Doctors will NOT tell you,…..bet you did not even know!

          • joe

            Oh for goodness sake, the vaccine court was setup to make it easier to make a claim as opposed to a civil court, the huge amounts paid out was for stupid claims that would never succeed in a civil court, and yes I know how the vaccine court works, it’s you that doesn’t know otherwise you would not have bothered bringing it up.

          • AutismDadd

            Give us ONE example of a case where NVICP simply handed out easy money…

          • joe

            As soon as you supply your citation that I asked for 8 days ago, liar

          • Demaris Forsythe

            The level of evidence required in the NVICP is MUCH lower than in regular court. I guess you don’t know about table injuries, either. And where is your evidence for what “people even know?” The 10% figure is for such minor events as a “sore arm,” you ninny. Serious adverse events GET REPORTED.

          • Demaris Forsythe

            Oh, and honey? Eighty percent of the cases that are compensated are settled without any evidence that a vaccine caused the event. It’s right there on the site.

          • AutismDadd

            In 2017 NVICP compensated a woman 11.6 MILLION for flu-vac adverse reaction. WOW! those sore arms and headaches really pay. She almost blew it by forgetting the feather!

          • Demaris Forsythe

            In addition, anti-vaccine nuts like you invariably cite the dollar amount and can’t be bothered to be honest and admit that it was paid to fewer than 6000 people since 1988.

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Joe, it’s not an all-or-nothing decision. Many people would opt for polio and measles shots, but opt out of vaccines for non-life threatening diseases like chicken pox. Many would further choose not to get the combined MMR vaccine, choosing instead to get only 1 or 2 of these separate innoculations or, alternatively, to delay vaccination for a year or two as the relative risk appears to be lower with age. Some of the new vaccines, like HPV, are complete crap that no one should get. Also, no one should get vaccines with thimerosal, aluminum or squalene adjuvants, in my opinion.

          • joe

            You of course are entitled to your opinion but that does not mean it is correct.As for HPV perhaps you should read this. https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/83779246/10-years-on-HPV-vaccine-halves-cervical-cancer-rates

          • AutismDadd

            And you are entitled to your opinion no matter how tarded it is.

          • joe

            Waiting 8 days for my citation, you can’t supply one, liar

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Every parent is entitled to their opinion and their choice is correct for their children. As for HPV, perhaps you should watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NaHH626_aQ

          • joe

            Videos count for nothing

          • FallsAngel

            You really need to learn more about vaccines and vaccine preventable diseases. While I feel everyone should get all the vaccines on the CDC schedule at the times they say, it’s hilarious that you think it’s more important to get vaccinated against polio than chickenpox. The only countries that have wild polio disease are Afghanistan and Pakistan and they each had a handful last year. Now of course we need to keep vaccinating until polio is eliminated, but your kid is much more likely to be exposed to chickenpox than polio.

            Single-antigen measles, mumps and rubella vaccines are not available in the US, and I seriously don’t know why anyone thinks they are “safer” than the combined vaccine. Just because Andy says so doesn’t make it true.

            Please provide a link on this “relative risk” being lower at an older age. Your kid is vulnerable for longer if you wait.

            HPV is a great vaccine and is already preventing pre-cancer in girls in Australia where it’s been strongly encouraged.

            Who cares what your opinion is about additives? What’s your medical background? You do know of course (/s, it’s obvious you don’t know this) there is no thimerosal in any vaccine other than multidose flu vaccine, which is about 20% of the US supply. You can always ask for the t-free version.

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            You really need to learn more about vaccines and vaccine injuries. “Many people” is not necessarily me. I’ve not had to make parental decisions about vaccinations since I learned about vaccine fraud.

          • FallsAngel

            Would you like to enlighten us about “vaccine fraud”, Marty?

          • AutismDadd

            A perfect way to play ” Meet the Shills” First up, FalseAngel, followed by Joe/ Josephine, the rest to follow….

          • Verna Lang

            Says the person who has posted 41,185 comments since joining in July of 2014. At 41,185 comments divided by the 1314 days elapsed since joining, AD averages over 31 comments per day. Every day. Some people do appear to spend their days making witless and evidence-free i̶n̶s̶u̶l̶t̶s̶ comments. But it’s not Joe or Falls Angel or me.

          • AutismDadd

            Verna making math easy

          • joe

            Yes he seems to spend a lot of time here for someone that alleges he has a Autistic child to look after.

          • AutismDadd

            So you too own a copy of the Shill manual.

          • Acleron

            This is the manual that little Duddy Boy has never been able to produce. He is too stupid to argue against the facts so he just lies.

          • AutismDadd

            Mike Acleron Stevens can’t understand sarc

          • Acleron

            Sarcasm? Ah, you are confirming you are lying.

          • AutismDadd

            Maybe you need to look up the meanings of those words and compare them.

          • Acleron

            I know what they mean, claiming you are only being sarcastic when you continually lie doesn’t wash.

          • AutismDadd

            Then you DON’T know those meanings. I’ll wait while you look them up.

          • Acleron

            Lol, you making a claim of sarcasm to hide yet another obvious lie is risible.

            But back to the point, you have no evidence that this manual exists, ie you lied, as usual.

          • AutismDadd

            How low will you stoop to make these pathetic attempts work?

          • Acleron

            To get down to your level I would have to stoop very low, but I don’t intend to. Merely pointing out the cess pit of lies you live in suffices.

          • AutismDadd

            You already have to look up to address me.

          • Acleron

            Obviously not mentally.

          • AutismDadd

            No you’d have to look WAY UP!

          • Acleron

            Yeah, yeah, were it not for circumstances you would have found the Higg’s boson, dark energy and gravity waves in your basement between your bed and computer.

          • AutismDadd

            Nonsense…your super power

          • AutismDadd

            Authorities claim they DO NOT know what causes autism. There is debate its the result of encephalitis, caused by vaccination. Obviously joe is full of beans and cabbage and his stance the equivalent of flatulence.

          • AutismDadd

            Do you see special needs kids though?

          • AutismDadd

            Agree. Mike is a denialist, joe a bootlicker

          • AZ DONALD

            but I thought they were one in the same doing the good cop bad cop thing.
            you know, dumb and dumber?

          • AutismDadd

            You are on to something…

          • AutismDadd

            Doesn’t take much to stun you though

          • Billy Wild

            Why are you here making sure everyone thinks what you want them to think. Youre full of shit

          • I. P. Nichols

            YOU ARE THE SHIAT for brains

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            There is such a thing as objective truth. There absolutely is.

          • joe

            Mike unlike you is a REAL doctor, he comes here donating his valuable time to try and help people to understand the benefits of vaccination. Do you use the phrase “Youre full of shit” when you speak to your doctor?

          • AutismDadd

            Mike, a shill to the end

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            All good up to the point where you accept the metafake news (fake news about fake news) where Baxter Dmitry uses a fake name and fake picture in Russia to get you to think he’s a unicorn, oops I mean Russian operative. Baxter is really Sean’s mother’s nom de plume: https://toinformistoinfluence.com/2017/01/29/mother-churns-out-stories-for-master-of-fake-news/

          • Mike Stevens

            From your link:
            https://toinformistoinfluence.com/2017/01/29/mother-churns-out-stories-for-master-of-fake-news/

            YourNewsWire.com has now been blacklisted by a number of fact-checking bodies, including the European Union’s East StratCom Task Force, a Brussels unit that debunks Russian propaganda. It criticised the site for publishing “fake media stories that support Russia’s policies”.
            Joel Harding, a former US intelligence officer and Kremlin propaganda expert, said YourNewsWire.com was “used by the Russians as a proxy site to spread disinformation”, whether its owner was aware or not.

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            I don’t endorse every single statement in links that I post. Specifically, I don’t support the NeoMcCarthyist agenda of labeling people as Russian-allied unless there is evidence that is not circumstantial in nature.

          • Jeanie Pickett

            I could die from the flu vaccine. I’m highly allergic to the chemicals in it. There are adverse reactions to the flu shot all the time. If you don’t think so, go talk to a Neurologist. Go talk to the child of an Alzheimer’s or Dementia patient. I guarantee you that their parent/s got the flu shot every year since it’s been available. Just some food for thought. You do realize there is more money for the doctors, facilities and drug companies in keeping people sick, right?

          • Mike Stevens

            I don’t need to be told some people are allergic to vaccines- I’m a doctor.
            Some people are allergic to penicillin or other drugs, some are allergic to certain food constituents or additives too.
            I don’t see folk saying we should avoid all drugs, or stop eating though.

            Did you know that Alzheimer’s is less common in those who have had flu vaccination? I guess you didn’t. 60% less common, actually.
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC81665/

          • Skepticalofskeptics

            Your comment implies causation – do you believe flu shot lowers risk of Alzheimer’s? Care to speculate how that might be?

          • Mike Stevens

            If you read the paper you’d see.
            Sheesh….

            “Past exposure to vaccines against diphtheria or tetanus, poliomyelitis and influenza may protect against subsequent development of Alzheimer’s disease.
            The causes of Alzheimer’s disease are unknown. Among the many hypotheses that have been raised is the possibility that conventional infectious agents, in conjunction with changes in the immune system, play a role.1,2,3 Evidence for a relation between viral infection and development of Alzheimer’s disease comes from the neuroinflammation and apoptosis that are known to occur in this disease.4 Furthermore, changes to the immune system have been implicated in age-related conditions such as Alzheimer’s disease.5,6 We analysed the association between past exposure to conventional vaccines and risk of Alzheimer’s disease for subjects in the Canadian Study of Health and Aging (CSHA), a multicentre prospective study of dementia in a representative community sample of elderly Canadians.”

          • joe

            Well that finally shut him up, it’s amazing how the FACTS have that effect.

          • AutismDadd

            He’s just shocked Mike lies so much.

          • AutismDadd

            MAY protect. The OLD Vaccine science way of saying correlation is causation.

          • AutismDadd

            “Changes to the immune system” Thanks Mike. And what does messing with the immune system do? What does including peanut oil and aluminum do? Don’t they excite and over stimulate the immune system far more than normal, regular exposure through normal channels? And don’t the result in a dominate TH2 over the normal TH1?

          • Skepticalofskeptics

            “527 were diagnosed as having cognitive impairment or dementia other than Alzheimer’s disease and were EXCLUDED from these analyses. ”

            Well that’s convenient.

          • Mike Stevens

            Much of dementia is vascular.

            The claims relate to Alzheimer’s so you need to look at that, M’kay?

          • AutismDadd

            Yep Mike’s trash science.

          • Jeanie Pickett

            You make money off of injecting people with this garbage. You can respond all you want, your point is moot. Most Physicians I know don’t have time to troll message boards. I’m sorry if you only actually learned to cite a few items in APA format, but I’m not impressed.

          • Mike Stevens

            “You can respond all you want, your point is moot.”
            You claimed flu vaccine caused Alzheimer’s; all I did was show you that this was not the case, and in fact Alzheimer’s was diagnosed less frequently in those who had flu vaccination.
            Hardly a moot point.
            PS: I work as a part time NHS hospital specialist in the UK. I don’t get paid to “inject garbage”. We have universal health care and receive a flat NHS salary.

          • AutismDadd

            Please everyone read Mike’s link to junk science. Absolute garbage.

          • Acleron

            It is difficult to imagine how anybody could be as stupid as Duddy Boy, however the evidence is continually produced.

          • AutismDadd

            Nope. It shows you support junk science and I don’t

          • JoeFarmer

            “I’m highly allergic to the chemicals in it.”

            Which ones specifically?

          • Jeanie Pickett

            Thimerosal, but there are a bunch of other ones. Not worth dying for, yo.

          • JoeFarmer

            How did your doctor determine that you were allergic to thimerosal?

            The only vaccines with thimerosal are multi-dose vials of flu vaccines, which comprise about 25% of flu vaccines. You can always get a flu shot from a single dose vial. Voila, problem solved, yo.

          • Isabel Li

            Wow Joe, you are not only a farmer with expertise in genetics AND a Marksman of 50 years but ALSO an expert on vaccines?

            A real renaissance man with the exact same writing style as a few other “skeptics” – how remarkable!

          • joe

            Dying from vaccination is MINISCULE, yet 370 died from Flu in Australia last season

          • AutismDadd

            And how did the useless flu vac help? Did you know the NVICP paid out 220 million in comp for the flu vac in 2017?

          • Nim

            Ya, you might die,…..right away,….but you may have eczema, seizures,..etc….The vaccine insert itself says……”This product HAS NOT BEEN EVALUATED for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential,….NOR HAS IT BEEN EVALUATED for its potential to impair fertility. But, hey,…inject away, if you want!

          • Demaris Forsythe

            You don’t know how to read an insert. What a shock.

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Dmitry is not a Russian troll. She’s Sean Adl-Tabatabai’s mother. They’re a British family. Maybe they do support some Russian agenda but mostly they’re making money off of clickbait advertising. Don’t be fooled by the name and picture.

            https://toinformistoinfluence.com/2017/01/29/mother-churns-out-stories-for-master-of-fake-news/

          • AutismDadd

            Mike the DENIALIST Stevens

          • AutismDadd

            Oddly Mike seems VERY intent on protecting pro-vaccine forces without question. One wonders if he is an industry insider…

          • AZ DONALD

            is there any doubt, lol…..

          • https://www.facebook.com/FreemasonMafia/ Alex41352

            Health care is operated by organized crime. Please see my Facebook page, “UF Health Shands Hospital Gainesville Florida-Unofficial” (just type that into the Facebook searchbox.).

          • AutismDadd

            The Pharmafia… were gonna make you a vaccine you can’t refuse…

          • AutismDadd

            CDC Dr William Thompson’s guilty conscience forced him not only to confess, but to personally apologize to Dr Andrew Wakefield. One has to wonder, where is Dr William Thompson now?

          • AZ DONALD

            and even after this massive 16 year cover-up admitted by the CDC, the pro vaxxers still use them and their affiliates as credible proof in the statistics they put out.

            the incredible stupidity on the other side along with blinders so they don’t see things like

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos

            and the thousands of families with autistic kids sometimes becoming permanently ill just hours after their vaccines.
            .

          • AutismDadd

            Its so obvious you’d think even morons like Acleron, joe, Mike Stevens etc would notice. But when you’re paid you simply don’t

          • Billy Wild

            Why doesn’t release the percentage of people that died that got the flu shot VS those that didnt..Dont tell me they dont have that information.. The proof is in the facts, not you trying to debunk a story.

          • Jeanie Pickett

            The CDC isn’t going to release that information. Why? Well, there is far more money in keeping people sick than there is in keeping people healthy. I’ve never had the flu shot and I’ve never had the flu. Ironically, everyone I know that does get the flu shot gets the flu. Let’s not talk about how the flu vaccine is related to Dementia and Alzheimer’s disease, let’s just glaze right over that one. I don’t go to a medical facility to get sick, I go to medical facilities to get treatment and get better. My doctor’s office is part of a huge medical group in Kansas. If you want your annual flu shot, you have to sign a waiver that if you get any of the bad reactions to the flu shot, that you cannot sue the hospital, facility, doctor or nurse. If the health clinic requires that you sign a waiver, isn’t that pretty much admitting that there are bad reactions to the flu shot, and the facility will not be held liable for what reactions you may have to it?

          • Mike Stevens

            Yeah let’s talk about flu vaccine and Alzheimer’s…
            I already told you, people are 60% less likely to get Alzheimer’s if they have had a flu shot.
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC81665/

          • AutismDadd

            This is how Mike (I’m not paid to do this) Stevens spends his day. He claims to be a doctor but doesn’t seem to work, because he’s a forum troll. We see how he spreads misinformation and opposes any suggestion vaccines are unsafe or don’t work. If it posts like a shill , its a shill.

          • AZ DONALD

            *B-I-N-G-O*

          • http://hightechforum.org/ Richard Bennett

            Russian trolls are taught to deny, deny, deny.

          • http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/ Reality022

            Mike said, “Everyone with their heads wrapped in tinfoil (you included) goes: “Woooo!”

            And hence the genesis of the term “woo-woo”.

          • AutismDadd

            up votes by 7 sockies

          • pat

            LOL!!!!!

          • Lord Lucan

            Don’t forget step 5 – he turns up dead after telling a journalist to publish his identity if ‘anything should happen to him’.
            Nothing to see here sheeple…move along…look, squirrel!

          • AutismDadd

            We can see Mike has a following of 25 unless you eliminate his sock puppet up voting.

          • AutismDadd

            Were you there Mike?

        • Clara Outlaw

          He’s been found dead

          • FaintCryofFreedom

            Omg. How sad.

      • Chris Vecchio

        Here is that loser mike Stevens again. Ur a fucking troll getting paid by big pharma most likely. Kill urself loser

        • Mike McCall

          And this coming from someone who doesn’t use a picture? From the kill yourself comment I’m sure you’ll be the next one we see in the news shooting up some public place

        • Mike Stevens

          Feed me!!!!

          • Arauna

            You are a very disturbed person.

          • AutismDadd

            eat shit

        • JoeFarmer

          OK, now that you’ve played keyboard warrior, yell to your Mom from the basement and ask her to make you a Hot Pocket for lunch.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake

            I wouldn’t normally upvote a comment like this but Chris V. deserves it after the ‘kill yourself’ comment.

        • AutismDadd

          Yep Mike the MANUAL Stevens, joePhamer, Brian AKA briandead they are like vultures and they are celebrating the death of an honest doctor.

          • Sandi Newman

            So now he’s dead?

          • AutismDadd

            presumed. But he’s missing and its not his habit to go missing.

          • Acleron

            Little Duddy boy, lying again. Cunningham is not a medical doctor which makes a nonsense of the claim he treated patients and the only people here celebrating death is Vecchio and of course you for trying to support him.

          • AutismDadd

            How wrong can you be?

          • Acleron

            Got any evidence I am wrong? Of course to a continual liar, you think your lies are facts.

          • AutismDadd

            Are you at recess?

          • AZ DONALD

            the people UNDER Cunningham could have administered the shots just like the pharmacy techs do at my local pharmacies.

            shouldn’t call people liars when you are a complete imbecile.

          • AZ DONALD

            why would you call a father of an autistic child a liar even in a heated discussion?

            you are a fvcking scumball.

            you don’t need to be an MD to administer vaccine shots or be in charge of a research division that does. I saw pharmacy techs giving them at my local CVS.

            hope you come down with something worse than autism, you deserve it.

          • Acleron

            I call people who lie, liars. Deal with it. If he does have an autistic child, he and the child have my sympathy. Unfortunately, he lies so much it is impossible to be sure if he is even a father.

          • AZ DONALD

            please post ONE of his lies here.
            calling someone a liar requires you to back it up, not just say it.

          • Acleron

            You can have a complete parcel. This from a comment you replied to so you should recognise it.
            Lie 1
            ‘This is how Mike (I’m not paid to do this) Stevens spends his day.’
            Demonstrably untrue. It takes little time and very little thinking to respond to antivaxxer fools.
            Lie 2
            ‘ He claims to be a doctor but doesn’t seem to work, because he’s a forum troll.’
            As this builds on 1 it also is a lie
            Lie 3
            ‘We see how he spreads misinformation and opposes any suggestion vaccines are unsafe or don’t work. ‘
            Duddy boy has never been able to show that any information that Mike Stevens has given is false and Mike Stevens has never said vaccines are 100% safe. And more on the ‘don’t work’ later.
            Lie 4
            If it posts like a shill , its a shill.
            Duddy boy has never been able to show any evidence that anybody has ever been paid to post in vaccine forums.

            MS repeatedly posts factual evidence which is never refuted. Like all your ilk, Duddy Boy, not being able to refute facts, resorts to infantile insults and baseless smear tactics.

          • AZ DONALD

            “Demonstrably untrue”
            you’re opinion, doesn’t make him a liar.

            i’m done at point #1.

            god you guys are on full alert and divert and insult and everything you can to keep the lie going…………

          • Brian

            Lol!
            You played the “paid shill” card. That means you have zero credibility.

          • AZ DONALD

            AFTER ALL OF THIS ALL YOU GOT IS STILL NAMECALLING?

            here’s the truth.

            i’m fighting all of these big pharma schills and being paid by the…. uhhh. antivaccine pharmaceutical… wait, that makes no sense, being paid by the BIG ANTIVACCINE LOBBY.

            yeah, that’s right, the ones with no money, LOL

            asswipe.

          • Mike Stevens

            A few premises:

            1. Pharma is paying “shills” to post here – according to you anyway.
            2. Fewer vaccines means more disease.
            3. More disease means more profit for BigPharma.
            4.. Antivaccine comments on the internet dissuade people from vaccinating their kids.
            5. You are posting antivaccine comments.

            Conclusion:
            You are a shill for BigPharma.

            How’d I do?

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            You screwed up. Vaccines cause more damage than they prevent and thus are far more profitable for big pharma than non-vaccination.

          • Acleron

            Demonstrably is not an opinion and was shown to be untrue. Anybody but an idiot, like you, can see from the timings of MS’s posts that he doesn’t post all day. The point was so trivial and obvious I didn’t bother highlighting it but obviously you are of similar intellectual ability as Duddy Boy.

            Yeah, you are done.

          • AZ DONALD

            only a fvcktard like YOU would quote something that I was quoting from SOMEONE ELSE.

            jesus christ, are all of you vaxxers complete imbeciles?

            and since you started the namecalling you sir are a fvcktard.

            of course you all are the same person with multiple aliases.

          • Acleron

            When I quote anyone it is in quotemarks, it is kind of what they are there for.

          • AZ DONALD

            (When I quote anyone it is in quotemarks, it is kind of what they are there for.)

            do you mean like the ones I actually used:

            “Demonstrably untrue”

            are you a complete ass?

            now like you said to me, you are a complete “idiot” now as opposed to a marginal idiot. either that or drunk but either way, a complete idiot.

            go away now, i’m done having fun with all you schills……
            .

          • Acleron

            LMAO, those are my words you idiot. Did you forget?

          • joe

            Gee Acleron, lets be fair, you know with his limited Education he would not know what quotemarks are, the proof of his low Education is borne out by the fact that every third word is a swear word.

          • Acleron

            So when you are losing the argument you resort to baseless allegations, ie lying. You are just like any other antivaxxer.

          • AZ DONALD

            hey Acleron, how come you keep deleteing the posts that really make you look like a fool?

            is it because your own statements are too stupid once you read them that you have to delete them?

            I’ve noticed that I cite references, charts, quotes and other facts to back up my arguments yet all you do is add nothing but talk and insults because that is the limit of your intellect.

            a pro pharma schill actually yelled at me saying the CDC never admitted any cover-up in the Thompson fiasco.

            well, heres a little entertainment for all of you paid trolls.

            CDC RESPONDS: ADMITS OMITTING VACCINE DATA
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THGbJnpywyw

            AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO YOU GUYS COSIDER THE HOLY GRAIL…

          • Acleron

            Lying yet again. I have not deleted any posts.

            Oh, you are so funny, your evidence is an interview with Dr. Hooker. I doubt you can ever understand how funny that is. Hooker had all the data from the study and tried to show the CDC was fraudulent. He made such a hash of it that his paper was withdrawn. Yeah, some cover-up.

          • JoeFarmer

            And Donald claims he’s a physicist…

            More likely fizz-assist, the guy who refills the soft drink machine at McDonalds.

          • AZ DONALD

            hookers paper wasn’t withdrawn and the mawson study wasn’t withdrawn, just more pro vax lies and word twisting.

            Thompson was given congressional immunity as a whistleblower and scheduled to testify in front of congress but guess what, the CDC blocked it.

            I guess they didn’t want the 16 years of covering up the autism-black boys connection to be exposed.

            pretty bad that the source you guys always use covers up their crimes.

          • JoeFarmer

            “hookers paper wasn’t withdrawn and the mawson study wasn’t withdrawn, just more pro vax lies and word twisting.”

            Wrong.

            “A little more than a month after removing a highly criticized article that claimed the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine increased the risk of autism in African American boys, Translational Neurodegeneration has officially retracted the paper.

            Here’s the notice, dated yesterday:

            The Editor and Publisher regretfully retract the article [1]
            as there were undeclared competing interests on the part of the author which compromised the peer review process. Furthermore, post-publication peer review raised concerns about the validity of the methods and statistical analysis, therefore the Editors no longer have confidence in the soundness of the findings. We apologise to all affected parties for the inconvenience caused.”

            retractionwatch(dot)com/2014/10/04/journal-makes-it-official-retracting-controversial-autism-vaccine-paper/

          • FallsAngel

            Still trying, hey joe? I just gave up. Guy can’t read a graph, doesn’t understand history. I’m tired of repeating myself.

            ETA: And what’s with this obsession with polio anyway, in an article trying to link someone’s disappearance to his views on the flu?

          • AZ DONALD

            cant read a graph?
            I think its you who cant admit a nearly 3 year drop in polio cases BEFORE the vaccine was introduced because of sanitation https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43db28f5bfd5f299140de0d06ed9c8d4665f884ea37e452f0b62d9e3c0078b49.png but instead you called it “the nature of the disease” or some bullshit like that. LOL

          • joe

            He is an absolute loon. I think he will join Hubbsy on the American Loons site.

          • AZ DONALD

            and your source is the OBVIOUSLY BIASED retractionwatch?

            LOLOLOLOL

            like I said, I’m done BSing with you.

            you’re on the clock and i’m not.

            bye

          • JoeFarmer

            “and your source is the OBVIOUSLY BIASED retractionwatch?”

            Look at the journal, dumbass.

          • AZ DONALD

            no, I’m done with all you dumbasses who laugh at the people who swear that their kids got autism right after their shots and belittle and make fun of people like autism dadd who is living a hell of his own.

            you all disgust me with your bull headedness and refusal to watch case after case of families ruined for life with disabled kids when I give the website over and over yet not one of you will watch to educate yourselves.

            ya’ll deserve a special place in hell.

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos

            here it is for the last time.

            and when I posted the video of the triplets who all became autistic within hours from their shots all you guys did was belittle make fun and excuses. you’re all sick.

          • JoeFarmer

            Quit deflecting. You said Hooker’s article wasn’t retracted and I proved you were wrong, cupcake. Now go mop the bathroom!

          • AZ DONALD

            http://www.autisminvestigated.com/brian-hooker-confirmed-by-cdc/

            when you get info from obviously biased sources then you will get biased answers.

            (Yet Dr. Hooker’s paper remains retracted IN BREACH OF THE GUIDELINES the publisher claims to follow when considering retractions)

            (Meanwhile, CDC is pretending that its own study results were different from Dr. Hooker’s when they were clearly not. In a statement to ABC News insisting “There was no cover-up,” CDC said of Dr. Hooker’s findings, “it is hard to speculate why his results differed from CDC’s.”
            Except they didn’t.)

            (In particular, note the boxed results of each showing risk from MMR vaccination before age 36 months in African-American children – BOTH ARE SIGNIFICANT, and the strength and precision of each are almost identical to one another.)

            I highlited the important stuff cause you wouldn’t go read it anyway.

            it shows there is a very high risk of autism in black boys vaccinated before 36 months, no matter if it was retracted and resubmitted or not. THERE’S A CONNECTION, PERIOD.

          • JoeFarmer

            Your stupidity is epic! Now go fill the slurpee machine.

          • AZ DONALD

            only imbeciles think that smart little witty attacks make them look intelligent.

          • JoeFarmer

            When multiple people call you an idiot, what do you think that means?

          • Isabel Li

            On here, it means those aren’t really multiple people, just one with a bunch of fake IDs.

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Just because they beat hooker up and defamed him doesn’t mean he was wrong.

          • JoeFarmer

            Hooker wasn’t beat up or defamed. He’s a fraud

          • Brian

            Because Hooker was caught lying, do you think he was treated unfairly? No one forced him to lie. He did that all himself.

          • Mike Stevens

            Wow. It’s hard to appreciate how dumb you can be.
            The journal in which it was published later retracted the article.
            https://translationalneurodegeneration.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2047-9158-3-22
            That is a simple fact, something you clearly are unfamiliar with.

          • AZ DONALD

            hooker did make some errors in the development of his paper but the bottom line is that Hookers results MIRRORED the damning data that the CDC had deleted which showed an increase in autism in black boys. (why would you support a govt entity which deletes information?)

            BRIAN HOOKERS FINDINGS ARE CONFIRMED BY CDC’S RESULTS
            http://www.autisminvestigated.com/brian-hooker-confirmed-by-cdc/

            (Above is a table of omitted results from the original CDC study of age at MMR vaccination according to a video put out by the Autism Media Channel, and below is a table of results from Brian Hooker’s reanalysis of that study…… note the boxed results of each showing risk from MMR vaccination before age 36 months in African-American children – both are significant, and the strength and precision of each are almost identical to one another.

            the data that the CDC deleted and was found MIRRORS hookers research, like it or not.

            THERES A LINK IN BLACK BOYS WITH AUTISM AND THE MMR BEFORE THE AGE OF 36 MONTHS, A BIG LINK.

            you can crow and slander all you want but the bottom line is there is a connection and hookers study came up with identical results that the CDC did before they attempted to delete it forever.

            again, why would you cheer on the government covering up data showing a link between the MMR and children?

            .

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Obsequious authority-worshipping twaddle. Learn to evaluate research and statistical analyses and you’ll learn to recognize academic lynching for what it is — the opposite of genuine and disciplined scientific inquiry.

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Academic lynchings do happen. And they are to the peer-review process what the original lynchings were to justice.

          • JoeFarmer

            You should comment about subjects that you understand. This isn’t one of them.

          • AZ DONALD

            and one last thing since you seem to have a problem with comprehension or you just like to divert the topic.

            the intent of the video above was to show that the CDC admitted to omitting the data that dr Thompson was speaking about, specifically the autism-black boy incidence which was quadruple the normal rate.

            CDC RESPONDS: ADMITS TO OMITTING VACCINE DATA

            hopefully that clears it up a little bit for you big guy….

          • Acleron

            The CDC responded almost immediately after Thompson claimed that his analysis was ignored. Hooker is lying as is obvious because a short time after he spoke to Thompson he was doing his own analysis on all the data. Of course being as inept as the average antivaxxer he made a mess of it.

            So, Einstein, how could the CDC be covering up any of the data for 16 years when it was already in the public domain?

            The reason for the original scientific dispute is slightly complex so this is obviously not for you but for others. In a large database, the data can be sub grouped further and further into smaller groups. If the 5% significance rule is applied, the chance of finding a false significant effect greatly increases. Thompson concluded that the effect was real, other epidemiologists and statisticians concluded that it wasn’t. Such arguments often occur in science and are grasped by antivaxxers as some sort of evidence of malfeasance to further their agenda.

          • Peter Olins

            Only moderators, Disqus, or YOU can delete your posts.
            Feel free to exercise this privilege.

          • AZ DONALD

            right genius and I was talking about HIM removing his own posts,
            please try to keep up old man and maybe try to introduce some facts and figures instead of your petty little hit and run pieces.

          • Acleron

            What is your evidence that I have deleted any posts? Let me guess and extrapolate from your comments, you have zilch as usual.

          • FallsAngel

            Hooker is lying.

          • Taryn Williams-Cobb

            Are you STUPID??? I can answer that question for you. YES!!!!
            Where and how your ignorant foolish self say DR. CUNNINGHAM is not doctor. Guess what the CDC said he is and all of his degrees say so. Stay off of social media you embarrassing YOURSELF. Moron

          • Acleron

            The CDC page on Timothy Cunningham states
            ‘Dr. Cunningham received his S.M. and Sc.D. from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health’
            https://www.cdc.gov/media/spokesperson/sme-bio/cunningham.html

            The Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health has no medical degrees.
            https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/admissions/degree-programs/

          • Mike Stevens

            What are his degrees, btw?

          • Mike Stevens

            Here is his bio.
            https://www.cdc.gov/media/spokesperson/sme-bio/cunningham.html
            He has a ScD degree – doctor of science. This is an academic degree, and not a medical degree.
            He is an epidemiologist, and not a clinical doctor.

            …Face the the mirror if you want to call someone a moron.

          • Verna Lang

            It speaks volumes about the gullibility of people who read this story and accept the assumption that the title of doctor only means MD. An Sc.D. is not the same as an MD but has earned the title of Doctor. In addition, a quick check would have revealed that no one by the name of Timothy Cunningham is licensed to practice medicine in the state of Georgia where he worked. So why are people swallowing this conspiracy bait hook, line and sinker without even the simplest check for proof?

          • Acleron

            Fact checking? You are talking about antivaxxers.

          • Verna Lang

            What can I say? I guess I am just a pathological optimist.

          • AutismDadd

            Pathological …yes

          • shay simmons

            Cunningham is an epidemiologist, not an MD.

          • tomonthebay

            Cunningham is not an M.D. as Acleron correctly noted. His degree is a Sc.D. in epidemiology, not medicine. You are the one embarrasing yourself.

        • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Sudanese LH Gardening Rake

          Dude, you don’t tell people to kill themselves.

          • AutismDadd

            OK then you kill Mike. I hear he said something bad about vaccines…

          • joe

            You do know he came from a gutter, hence his gutter language.

        • Skepticalofskeptics

          Mike Stevens – 28K “Disqus” comments in less than 5 years. Paid troll or complete loser – most likely both.

        • joe

          You are a disgusting vile person, I bet your parents are proud of you when they hear how they taught you to speak to strangers.

      • mona1968

        Try looking up woman can’t walk after flu shot

        • Mike Stevens

          Yeah, we’ve all seen the Desiree Jennings YouTube videos!!!
          lol…
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N45-famr_Zk

          • Billy Wild

            You suck!

        • AutismDadd

          Might explain why Mike Stevens can’t tell the truth anymore.

          • joe

            Brain dead reply from a Pea Brain, and a liar.

          • AutismDadd

            Oh, so you know Mike personally?

          • joe

            You have no Idea what I know and who I know, But I know you are a liar.

          • AutismDadd

            How do you know I’m a liar if I lie?

          • joe

            Everybody knows you are a liar.

          • AutismDadd

            But I may have lied about being a liar…

      • Billy Wild

        Okay OLEG

      • AutismDadd

        Must come from medical/ science journals then

      • Anonymous Anony

        We are about to show they world how true this news is.

      • 655321

        Ending up in a river, no foul play suspected….sounds like a guy who pissed off the wrong people.

      • Shizzler

        he got murdered, feel silly yet ?

        • Mike Stevens

          …No signs of foul play.

          Feel like a fake news troll yet?

          • AZ DONALD

            would the bruises on his arms and body from being dragged into the river and drowned still be apparent after two months in the river, rotting and decomposed?

        • AZ DONALD

          oh come on Shizzler.
          everyone knows that when you go to the river for a jog you run straight into it until it’s way over your head and then you drown and they find your decomposed body months later.
          it happens all the time, nothing to see here, move along….

    • Nim

      Martin,…..The flu vaccine is the same as all the other toxic vaccines they want to inject into us. Put “Vaccine Inserts” into your search bar. Sites will come up that have the inserts. Choose one or two and go over them with a fine tooth comb. After you pass by “Clinical Reactions, you will find Post Marketing Reactions, which are listed as Cardiac Disorders, Gastro-intestinal Disorders, Blood and Lymph Disorders, and more. A little further down, you will find a sentence that says: “This product HAS NOT BEEN EVALUATED for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, NOR for potential to cause impaired fertility. You don’t need Cunningham or anyone else to read a vaccine insert, from the manufacturer giving you information.

      • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

        The reason I have no friends is because I know that YourNewsWire is bullshit and I call it bullshit even when the bullshit tends to support the truth which is, in this case, that vaccines cause more problems than they solve, as shown by the Mawson study and a few other studies done by research groups that get little to no big pharma funding and just get attacked for their valiant efforts. My loyalty is to the truth, not to any agenda. Thus, nobody likes me 🙂

        • AZ DONALD

          I “man” love you martin, keep the comments coming. 🙂

          • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

            Thanks, AZ, back atcha (as in back-to-back we fight off the ignorant hordes 🙂 ) Finding a few friends now and then makes battling the trolls worthwhile. Connect on FB and Twitter maybe?

    • Sandi Newman

      It’s all BS that’s why. I got the flu shot while still sick and I didn’t die from the flu vaccine or even get the flu. I am proof this is a lie.

    • mona1968

      Try googling ,woman can’t walk after flue shot on youtube

    • FallsAngel
      • JoeFarmer

        Do we have something better than that? I’m not doubting you, just that the blog is written by someone that doesn’t have much grasp of English.

        • FallsAngel

          I know. There was an article on Google News yesterday from a more reliable source, but I couldn’t find it today. I’ll keep looking.

        • Acleron

          I suspect Google translate had a hand in it

    • Tif Morgan
    • Tif Morgan

      This is not fake news, let me tell ya what is going on, my little YourNewsWire, my favorite news site to share from, is now being backed up by the Tea Party Command Center Bloggers, TTTG Networking, the Network by Anonymous Activist, and coming on line soon Toptentogo’s News Network. Plus my little YourNewsWire is also backed up by We the People a Political site. Plus more are coming on line.
      Now grab you back sides, Dr. T. Cunningham lost a promotion because he wrote a report of how blacks were discriminated against. Dr. Timothy J. Cunningham found the CDC Eugenics Program used against black people from the 1950’s by CDC. This is now on page at at the Tea Party Command Center.
      Page 10 at TPCC, is real nasty, a viral content which has pushed the views over 147777.
      On page 12, now get this,
      15 of the 16 vaccines contain small traces of uranium: http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/cdc-doctor-who-claimed-flu-shot-caused-outbreak-missing-feared?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A4645964&page=12#comments

      LO Tif

    • tomonthebay

      Because there isn’t any to find.

    • Anonymous Anony

      It was noticed that Mr. Morgan’s replies are missing, far be it for me to state within any blog forum, that the CDC has been hacked.
      For a simple to understand blog please follow the links:http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/forum/topics/internet-archive-censorship-against-missing-cdc-dr-timothy-j?xg_source=activity
      We Are Anonymous
      We Do Not Forget
      We Do Not Forgive
      Expect Us

    • Anonymous Anony

      To even think that comments are even censored here.

    • Vanessa H

      lmfao. where are you looking? under rocks? nice try troll. you and the eugenicists at the cdc fuck off

      • http://www.martintruther.com Martin Truther

        Look, I know full well that vaccines do more harm than good and that the CDC is corrupt to the core. The problem is that when vax-questioning people post articles from YourNewsWire that start with a grain of truth (guy from CDC found dead) and embellish it with lies to make it more click-baity (he was a vaccine critic/questioner– no evidence of that), it makes the vax-questioning people look stupid as rocks and hurts the cause instead of helping it. So, gfy.

        • Vanessa H

          He had it on his Twitter all the time. So beyond that do your own digging. There is evidence. Sorry to click a site u have issues with, I’m not familiar with them, I simply clicked one of the links on the pages of results I got back .

    • tomboysuze

      Maybe it’s because he feared for his life?

  • Max Stone

    You people do know that this is a fake news site right?

    • Lainy

      How do you know it is a fake news sit?

      • Max Stone

        Check the disclaimer on the site of the parent company for yournewswire

        • AZ DONALD

          why don’t you supply the direct link?

          • John D Neumann

            Becasue it’s been a known hoax/satire site for years now.. Were you just born this week ?

          • AZ DONALD

            really, because YOU say so??
            how about a link.
            here’s the home page, show me where it says they’re a satire site.
            they have to announce it or risk being sued.
            there you go, give us all the direct link to the disclosure.
            http://yournewswire.com/
            .

      • Brian

        Simple. We compare what the website says with the facts. They aren’t the same.

    • Dawnrmorgan
    • AutismDadd

      Screw off Donald…

  • Shannon Carter-Anderson

    This is all lies just to scare people. I got the flu shot back in October and Ive been healthy all flu season. The people who are dying are mostly young people who havent been exposed to this strain yet. Most people over 35 have been exposed to this strain at least once in their lifetime. If your immune system isnt compromised you should be fine.

    • massrn116

      I have seen some pretty sick people with no other health issues get severely sick this year.

    • Nim

      Many, many of those that got the flu shot,……came down with the flu! You are lucky you did not. I know 3 people that got the flu shot,….and shortly thereafter, got the flu! And flu shots year after year, can give you Alzheimer’s…….be careful…..READ the vaccine insert…..You can google: Vaccine Inserts in your search bar and sites will come up with the vaccines……Read where it says, Post Marketing Reactions,..they list them as: Cardiac Disorders, Gastro-intestinal Disorders, Blood and Lymph Disorders, and more. Go donw a little farther, to about line 353 or so, and you will find it says: This product has NOT been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, nor for the potential to cause impaired fertility. Like I said, be careful!

      • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

        Lol. Dumbass.

        • Nim

          Aha,ha,ha,ha! How very predictable you are! You have to resort to calling names! You just showed everyone what an immature baby you are!! Ahaha,ha,ha,ha!

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            I’m not “resorting” to anything. I’m simply done wasting oxygen on you scientifically illiterate conspiracy theorists. Now go away. You are part of the problem.

    • Lady D

      there are literally 1000’s of strains of flu all over the world. the flu vaccine that you take is only designed after the most common strain indigenous to where ever you are. so if you visit somewhere else in the world, state, town, part of the country, you might come in contact with a strain unknown to you that your flu vac WONT COVER. that means it doesnt cover the other 1000’s of strains that are out there. you would die trying to take shots for every strain trying to make yourself flu resistant. so there is no way in hell you will EVER BE fully protected against the flu. You can ask your local doctor, nurses, anyone and they will say the same. also with environmental factors constantly changing this is ONE factor that contributes to the strains becoming resistant and mutating. so when they mutate- that is another strain. when it mutates it becomes something else, that means whatever remedy they had to combat it, DIDNT WORK. I remember when i was doing my clinical. i had to do them in a facility and had to deal with quarantine and had gown and mask up. the people i had to take care of, these folks were in a plastic house having green crap coming out of both ends because of a flu strain. you had better get wise.

      • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

        That’s not how this works, that’s not how any of this works.

        • Lady D

          okay then would you care to enlighten us? 20 years in the medical field, BUT HEY! never get too old to learn… so im all ears.

        • Lady D

          You seem to dont know period that you have an IMMUNE SYSTEM! immune system fights pathogens for you! if vaccines are necessary and needed, then what have we all been doing before vaccines were invented? If the body were incapable of eradicating infections, then the human race would cease to exist before a vaccine were ever thought of… We would be extinct.

          YEAP! answer has been sitting there looking you right in your face the whole entire time. It doesnt take a PHD to use your mind. use your mind. READ.

  • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

    How come every site that reports this, reports it as though Dr. Cunningham spoke with them? Who is the original reporter who granted Dr. Cunningham anonymity in the first place for the first article?

  • P.J. Hughes

    This particular site may be fake or satire but this particular article has merit. Here is a similar article from abc news

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-cdc-employee-left-work-sick-10-days/story?id=53284363

    • LV

      In that article there is no mention about the flu vaccine …

      • AZ DONALD

        when the MSM covers up everything related to vaccines and vaccine injury do you think they would bring it up in an article?

        • LV

          The point of this article is his alleged declarations about the vaccines … those declarations are present anywhere else.

          So for the allegations to become real there needs to be proof. The article you posted has no link to those allegations.

          • AZ DONALD

            and you completely missed my POINT that the MSM covers up everything related to autism and vaccines and wouldn’t publish that part anyway.

            when did you ever hear about the MSM covering the triplets who all became autistic within hours of each other after their morning vaccines?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPHZFQFpZrY

            .

          • LV

            Actually i didn’t. And you are rambling on a different topic, not the original article.

            Too much conspiracy theory at lunch? But hey, on a “news” site like this one you fir perfectly.

            Btw, do you believe that Santa exists as well?

          • AZ DONALD

            once you resort to name-calling, belittling and insults you then lose the argument.

            good bye.

            .

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            No, once you ramble on about fabricated lunatic conspiracy theories, you lose. period.

          • AZ DONALD

            the story posted above about the triplets becoming sick within hours of their vaccinations is not ‘lunatic’ or ‘conspiracy theories’ yet again shows your name-calling trait when you lose an argument.

            here’s the list of hundreds of interviews of vaccine damaged kids for your enjoyment.

            I bet you will enjoy the pain of all these families who somehow are all liars….

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos

            .

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Ooooh, YouTube. Is this the peer-reviewed science-based medicine channel? Then why do I care?

          • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

            Don’t you just love it when the brainwashed call those who actually know what the hell is really going on, “lunatics” and “conspiracy” theorists? Or maybe they are the usual pharma spin doctors. They label all informed and brave doctors, who dare to speak against the trillion dollar empire, as “quacks,” and “loons,” too.

            People who have not tried to get the truth out, are not familiar with these mud-slingers, or their tactics. I remember a time, before Internet, when all they had to do was keep the truth out of their media sources (newspapers, radio, TV). Now that there is a more open form of communication, they have to dirty it up with their land mine sites, and their arrogant, condescending insults. Well, they have the money. No doubt they spend a portion of it one how to mislead the public.

          • Brian

            All those “informed and brave doctors”

            Like those who falsified medical information as part of a financial scam?
            Like those who set up “charities” for research, and then paid themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars from that charity and produced zero research?
            Like those who target vulnerable parents of disabled children, give them false and dangerous information in exchange for money and fame, but then run away when the children suffer or die as a result?

            Yeah, you guys sure love your “brave doctors”.

          • AutismDadd

            No NOT CDC briandead

          • Mike Stevens

            You and your pals having a tinfoil hat convention, Suki?

          • AZ DONALD

            well said, Suki. “arrogant, condescending insults”
            it’s the only way they can feel superior in their miserable little lives.
            they’re probably the same ones who watch the vaxxed victims and laugh while eating their popcorn…

          • Ginny Webb

            So, to use an analogy, all smokers, ever, who have smoked so much as one cigarette, should be dead from lung cancer or emphysema? Penicillin recipients likewise? Clearly not. I’ve known some total chimneys who’ve lived to a ripe old age. Some people have been saved by antibiotics, some have had their gutvhealth destroyed or even died from them.Clearly there are multiple factors at play in rendering a person suseptible. But it’s a game of Russian Roulette in the absence of any screening, orctesting for existing toxicity levels, prior to administering vaccines.

            The fact that vaccines are now administered as an untested job lot is a pretty sound reason to ask questions – there is this thing called cumulative affect, where neurotoxins such as injected aluminium -shaping up to be a culprit in the medical literature on this (see the recent Keele university findings on elevated al. in the brains of deceased teenagers with an asd diagnosis)- are concerned.

            As for why the mainstream media either doesn’t report or sanitises these stories, it’s well-established how industry sponsorship stymies the full truth, we’re not so naive as to not see that. But then when alt media exposes it, its discredited as unreliable. Consulting Snopes for verification is laughable these days.

            I’ll tell you what’s unreliable in my book – agencies like the CDC that are mired in controversy, producing more and more whistleblowers by the day, and companies like Merck that have a documented track record of fraudulant marketing claims. It’s not just members of the public saying this, highly-credentialled researchers such as Dr Peter Goetzsche of the independent Nordic Cochrane have spoken out about the criminal activities of Pharma and governments (see Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime).

            Anyone who poohpoohs that level of expertise and thorough analysis is either uninformed, blindly religious in the face of solid refutation, or paid to attack research and viewpoints that dissent from the dominant narrative.

          • AZ DONALD

            couldn’t have said it better myself, Ginny.
            his comment was so stupid I was dumbfounded.
            thanks for the great post.

          • JoeFarmer

            Tinfoil hatter alert!

          • AutismDadd

            Another duh moment from joepharmer

          • AutismDadd

            What a clown. Provide evidence vaccines WOULD make every person autistic, or STFU

          • John D Neumann

            Oh yeah well the msm is covering up your connection to bigfoot. See NO ARTICLES ABOUT IT .. You fucking FRAUD

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Give me a break. This is totally fabricated. And, Vaxxed? The greatest quackumentary of all time? What a joke.

          • AZ DONALD

            and thousands of people severely affected by vaccines flock to the vaxxed bus when it’s in town to tell their stories just because they’re all liars, right?

            people like you are disgusting.

            here’s a list of all of their terrible stories. grab some popcorn cause i’m sure this would be entertainment for someone like you.

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos

            .

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Because they are desperate, in pain, and seeking answers. Those quacks are preying on desperate people. It’s no better than religious cults. The Quaxxed bus is not the place for any answers, only bullsht.

          • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

            CDC Doctor: ‘Disastrous’ Flu Shot Is Causing Deadly Flu …
            australiannationalreview.com/2018/01/17/cdc-doctor-disastrous-flu…

          • FallsAngel

            Spam. Already posted one whole minute earlier!

      • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

        This article mentioned the doctor, who did not want to be named (for obvious reasons) last month. Same original author.

        CDC Doctor: ‘Disastrous’ Flu Shot Is Causing Deadly Flu …
        australiannationalreview.com/2018/01/17/cdc-doctor-disastrous-flu…

        • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

          Connect the invisible dots! I love this game! Let’s just make shlt up.

  • http://jameslyonsweiler.com/ lifebiomedguru

    Dr. Dan Neides was not fired. He left and is now running his own practice. Please correct the article.

    • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

      Here is a video of him discussing his termination (FIRING).

      Dr. Dan Neides, former medical director… – Ohio …
      http://www.facebook.com/OhioAMF/videos/754864704708375

    • AZ DONALD

      so why would you completely fabricate your entire post?
      IOW, lie?

  • Brian

    It’s fake news and click-bait people. The author makes up new conspiracy stories every day.

  • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

    What a load of crap. This scientist’s name was never associated with that totally fabricated story. Let’s see some corroboration. Derp. Plus, this quote:

    “Some of the patients I’ve administered the flu shot to this year have died,”

    Since when do CDC PhD scientists give injections to people? Jfc, you idiots.

    This site should be banned.

    • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

      See above, CDC Employment site comment.

      • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

        That doesn’t mean they’re giving unsupervised infections.

        • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

          That statement doesn’t even make sense.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Which part of my simple statement is confusing your conspiracy-addled mind?

        • FallsAngel

          I think you meant injections! But yeah, a PhD working in Ebola would not be out giving flu shots.

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Ooops, typo. For some reason, swipe text does not work at all on this site, while it’s fine everywhere else. No idea why.

          • joe

            Listen FSM the S.S BANNED is almost full but as you said Fck’ em.

      • FallsAngel

        He’s not an MD or any kind of a clinical worker, Suk.

    • AutismDadd

      Maybe at his son’s birthday party

      • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

        No, that’s just Wakefraud.

        • AutismDadd

          Now thank me for feeding you a slow pitch even you can hit.

  • Michael Haworth
    • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

      These conspiracy loons don’t care about facts.

      • AutismDadd

        Snopes is 4 dopes

    • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

      Snopes serves the same globalist “ideals” as the crooked mainstream media. I’m glad I became an activist long before Internet, so I could experience the corruption first hand, and see how it all ‘works.’

  • Dionne Spirit Lazarus

    One line got me to call bull on this article… Why would a CDC scientist be “administering the flu shot” to patients? Isn’t that a little below his pay grade?

    • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

      From CDC Employment/Student-Doctor Network:

      “Most PHS docs are highly encouraged to do some clinical practice part-time, so many of CDC docs stationed in atlanta work a day or two a week at egleston-scottish rite, grady, or the other big hospitals in the area…”

      • FallsAngel

        Mayhaps, but docs don’t usually give shots as part of their job.

        • http://stopk9torture.com Suki49

          Oh, a bit of backpedaling there, from your first statement, I see.

          • FallsAngel

            Backpedaling? I was responding to what YOU posted about doctors doing clinical work. This guy is not an MD. There is no clinical work for him to do in a hospital. He worked in Ebola.
            http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cdc-employee-vanishes-feeling-sick-leaving-work-early-article-1.3839397

          • http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/ FSMPastapharian

            Suki loves lunatic conspiracies can’t goalpost moving.

          • kfunk937

            His work has been primarily in health disparities and chronic diseases—127 studies on PubMed, none pertaining to Ebola: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=cunningham+tj%5Bauth%5D

            I’m not sure where the Ebola thing came in—news media error?—but perhaps we shouldn’t be repeating, as it’s not true.

          • FallsAngel

            OK. It came from the link I posted.
            “A Harvard Graduate, Cunningham has played a pivotal role in addressing past public health emergencies — including the Ebola and Zika viruses.” Don’t know where they got that.

          • kfunk937

            I’d overlooked that sentence, thanks.

            Maybe his rôle intersected with those public health emergencies, but his research did not reflect it? There were a lot of public science communicators involved in calming the Ebola hysteria, as I recall.

            Aside from the accuracy issue, and considering where we’re commenting, my main concern was to avoid unnecessarily alarming people by providing more fodder with which to feed their conspiracy theories.

          • FallsAngel

            Yes, I understand that.

          • FallsAngel
          • kfunk937

            Good article, which also confirms that bit in your earlier link about his father’s elevated concern. I also finally checked the CDC bio, which clarified for me the ID angle stemming from his deployments and background in EIS. (These folks here are treating him like a mad scientist, I think.)

            My heart goes out to his family, and I hope he’s okay.

          • FallsAngel

            Ditto. I can understand his family being concerned after two weeks, leaving w/o his wallet, car, dog, etc.

          • Mike Stevens

            He is not an MD/clinician.
            He won’t be giving or prescribing vaccines, end of.

        • JoeFarmer

          Dr. Cunningham is called, “doctor”, because he has an ScD, not an MD. So he wouldn’t be able to administer shots anyway.

          I’m sure that fact will have absolutely zero effect on the conspiracy theorists, though…

      • Dionne Spirit Lazarus

        He’s a CDC SCIENTIST. Yes, he has a PhD, but he’s not a medical doctor aka a public health service doctor like described in your cut and paste. So not the same thing.

        • AZ DONALD

          you’ve been making such a fool of yourself that i’m feeling sorry for you.

          depending on the state, even a pharmacy clerk can administer vaccines.

          quit while you are behind.

      • tomonthebay

        The missing doctor is not a physician. He has a D.Sc. degree and is an epidemiologist so he does do clinical work.

    • FallsAngel

      Rather insulting to those of us who do administer shots to patients, doncha think? The real reason he probably didn’t administer shots is that he doesn’t have any kind of license that allows him to do so, e.g. MD, RN, LPN.

      • Ginny Webb

        I hate to break it to you, but flu shots are being sold at your local discount pharmacy these days.and administered by people without a license!

        • FallsAngel

          I hate to break it to YOU, but those pharmacists all have licenses, as do the techs in most states. At my pharmacy, it’s only the pharmacists who give shots.

      • Dionne Spirit Lazarus

        My comment wasn’t to insult anyone who administers shots. Where did you even get that? I’m just saying there’s a huge difference between those who administer shots and those who come up with the science used to create the medicine inside of the shots. Wow.

        • FallsAngel

          I would suggest you quit while you’re not too far behind.

    • AZ DONALD

      did it ever occur to you that he may be in charge of the department which does this and when he says ‘administering the flu shot to his patients” he means under his supervision?

      • Dionne Spirit Lazarus

        No, that didn’t occur to me. As a person that used to work in one of the CDC’s many buildings off Chamblee Tucker Rd, the part that houses the scientists?? Yeah, they don’t see patients there. At all. Unless he was referring to some study in a medical journal or saw this deadly mutation under a microscope, that’s the only way that would make sense. And that’s not what this article said.

        • AZ DONALD

          depending on your state go to any pharmacy be it wal mart or CVS and see who gives the vaccine shots. it could be anyone from the pharmacist to the clerk or pharmacy tech. depends on who was trained.

          {{the part that houses the scientists?? }}

          wow, that really impressed me, really….. lol

      • ILoveJellybeans

        This article is a lie, the guy isn’t a doctor of medicine. Doctor isn’t just someone who practices in medicine, you can gain the title in various other fields too, its just less well known. He is a doctor of science, a scientist, and he is not qualified to see patients or give vaccinations.
        .
        Conspiracy theorists just like to grasp at straws to make things fit. Where’s the evidence he was even critical of vaccines in the first place?

  • Mike McCall

    News Truth and What? This article is crap. The CDC employee made no such claims privately or publicly. Baxter the Bullshitter needs to go back and learn what truth is. Why didn’t you just write an article outlining how the government snatched him in the parking lot and they are holding him at some secret government lab where they are using his blood to make some super killer virus to be used on kill whomever.. ugh

  • AutismDadd

    Pretty much says it all. Anyone hear from CDC Dr WilliamThompson lately?

  • JohnnyAdams8

    CDC was comprimised thanks to obama and hillary they remeased zika and other viruses to cause us brain damage along with cwd to target gun owners

    • kfunk937

      It would seem to have been devilishly effective, if your comment is any indication.

      Seriously, take a breather.

    • Mike Stevens

      They seem to have succeeded in your case.

  • JoeFarmer

    I know, right? Donald using the word “scientific”?

    Priceless.

    • AutismDadd

      I’d say more from JoePharmer but seems its more like less and less

    • AZ DONALD

      actually joe my degree is in physics. nuclear physics to be exact.

      how ’bout you?

      • JoeFarmer

        Thanks for the laugh!

      • FallsAngel

        No wonder you’re such a know it all. You’re full of Dunning-Kruger!

        • AZ DONALD

          And again with the name-calling and belittling from your side because it makes little people like you feel bigger than they actually are…..right?

          • FallsAngel

            That’s rich! You’ve been calling everyone names and using the “F” word.

          • AZ DONALD

            I always give assholes like you one or two chances before I punch back twice as hard.
            I don’t ever start it, “jagoff”.

          • joe

            Best to give this troll a miss, he is not worth the trouble, as you said he likes to dish out the “F” word but can’t take any form of criticism himself.

          • Acleron

            After claiming he is a nuclear physicist he is now claiming he gained an internship, just a complete fantastist.

          • joe

            I think “Loon” is better suited

          • Acleron

            He is certainly a loon if he thinks anyone would believe his nonsense.

        • joe

          Steady Falls, you do realise he would not know what “Dunning-Kruger” means. As you said, this thread is not about Polio vaccination.

      • joe

        Finished University, what has that got to do with this thread? Stay on topic if you can although I doubt it.

  • Mike Stevens

    This should be titled:

    “CDC doctor who said nothing at all about flu vaccine is missing.”

    He specialised in public health relating to Ebola.
    It is quite clear that the genuine truth is that he was preparing a viral culture to be released on the US public to spread Ebola. This was being readied for release in DC on 1 April.
    They got to him just in time. The flu story is a red herring.

    • kfunk937

      Lol. It’s not nice to tease the puppies though. Half of these CT nimrods will believe you about the Ebola.

      (Yes, I know. I’m no fun.)

    • AZ DONALD

      you’re right, they’re just outright lying:

      “Understanding the dangers involved in speaking out about vaccines in the current climate, we granted him anonymity in the article. However Dr. Cunningham told us we should go public should anything happen to him.”

      since you enjoy vaccine damaged kids and the agony of the families so much why don’t you watch some of these interviews and laugh your ass off?

      grab some popcorn first…

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos

      .

      • Mike Stevens

        So an entirely hearsay claim posted on a YouTube clip is “proof”?

        Well, here is some proof of something else….
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkngqL7Gws

        • FallsAngel

          So it’s OK to hang out with aliens, but not have sex with them?

          • Mike Stevens

            Exactly.
            YouTube says so.

          • AZ DONALD

            you are such a fool that you never even checked out the link.
            if you did you would never have said what you did.
            btw, how much do you get paid per post?

          • Mike Stevens
          • JoeFarmer

            LMAO! You actually think YouTube videos constitute evidence?

            Oh, and nice job with the shill gambit – it was about time you conceded.

          • AZ DONALD

            no joe but the info in some YouTube videos has evidence that points to a conclusion.
            of course, if you never even look at the link or view the ruined families one after another you will continue to live a life of stupidity.

          • JoeFarmer

            No one will ever accuse you of being smart, but you are free entertainment.

          • AZ DONALD

            not smart, really joe?

            I believe otherwise.

            there were 6 slots for internships at henry ford hospital in detroit back in 1979 and over 250 applicants for them.

            I got an internship.

            your turn big guy…..
            .

          • kfunk937

            Damnit, there goes the dating pool in Area 51.

      • FallsAngel

        Snort! So no quote of Cunningham saying this himself, but someone who said he said. MmmKay!

    • shay simmons

      Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are going to believe you.

      • Mike Stevens

        Hmmm.
        Edited.
        Well maybe do a head count on 1st April. Anyone wearing aluminium foil should be obvious.

  • AZ DONALD

    VAXXED UNCENSORED
    THE REAL STORY part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNlsSJyfjLA

  • Anoel53

    so what it is ‘debunked’. half of the mess that is reported is a lie and the other half is unverifiable, I believe it, and there is no reason or way you can verify this story unless you, yes you, find him alive. So, my belief is unfounded and your belief is unfounded.

  • mona1968

    It’s all about money, I never take flu shot and never will, my daughter got deathly ill after her flu shot and her unborn baby died inside her a day after nurse gave her flu shot , so this man is telling the truth, they don’t want to lose money and they will kill doctors in order to keep money flowing, they don’t want the public to know the seriousness about it, you don’t know what the hell they are injecting in your body, if I die of the flu then it WS just my time to go cause I ain’t taking nothing the CDC wants to inject in me, sorry. One lady on the news was bed written from taking flu shot and she will never walk again, try googling woman can walk after flu shot, that’s not fake. People wake up.

  • AutismDadd

    rabble alert

  • Verna Lang

    Dr. Timothy J. Cunningham received his S.M. and Sc.D. from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.
    The Sc.D.is not a medical degree. There is no one licensed to practice medicine in Georgia by this name. How is he seeing patients and administering shots if he is not an MD, nurse, or pharmacist? Is someone taking advantage of this unfortunate missing person to add to their pet conspiracy theory?

    • shay simmons

      Is someone taking advantage of this unfortunate missing person to lie like a rug add to their pet conspiracy theory?

      FTFY.

  • Lady D

    and bring so sound solid evidence to the table. opinionated. too much emotion and no facts! LOL!

  • BatsBattaglia

    This whole site we’re posting comments on here is bogus.

  • disqus_wAGgnUKB2e

    “Some of the patients I’ve administered the flu shot to this year have died,” the doctor said in January
    Except he was a researcher with Zikka and Ebola. The guy wasn’t a general practitioner. He isn’t giving out flu shots at the CDC. This article is bullshit. Use some common sense.

  • kritikosman

    Whether he said it or not, flu shots are very suspect.

    • Brian

      To a conspiracy theorist, everything is suspect.

      • kritikosman

        Had your shot yet?

        • Brian

          Of course. So has my family. We’re not stupid.

          • kritikosman

            Good luck.

          • AZ DONALD

            and i’ll bet you ‘ol bri bri watched exactly zero seconds of these vids….

          • AZ DONALD

            (We’re not stupid.) I beg to differ. LOL

            dr oz is for vaccines while on tv with big pharma dollars paying for his show.

            what he does with his kids and wife is 180 degrees opposite though, he WON’T let them immunize.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by9cCtqf5Ik

            for 5 minutes this idiot tells everyone they need the vaccine and at 5:05 he slips and admits that his wife and kids will NOT be immunized. he went thru hell over this slip years ago.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jejKpBqEkYE

            if you still want to make stupid decisions (as opposed to ignorant because now you know) it’s your choice.

  • David Starkey

    I AM 60 YEARS OLD AND I GOT MY VERY FIRST FLU SHOT THIS YEAR. GUESS WHAT. NO FLU.

    • AZ DONALD

      good for you, david.
      haven’t had the flu shot in nearly 20 years and never got the flu, knock on wood.
      that’s in spite of caring for a family member a few years ago intimately who had it.
      snot rags, sweat rags, very confined space you name it

  • https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/a-provaxer-watched-vaxxed/ Kathy

    Fake news. This man worked in the chronic diseases department. He had nothing to do with flu vaccine. Y’all are nuts.

  • E Conaway

    The quote above “Some of the patients I’ve administered the flu shot to this year have died” could not possibly have come from Dr. Cunningham – his Sc.D. doctorate is in science, not in medicine. He is a very accomplished public health scientist, not a medical doctor / M.D. or D.O. He does not have any other health degree such as nurse or pharmacist that would permit him to give a vaccine to anyone, and his job description does not mention vaccines or influenza, despite listing other diseases. His degrees and job description are listed here: https://www.cdc.gov/media/spokesperson/sme-bio/cunningham.html

  • AZ DONALD

    CDC SCIENTISTS EXPOSE AGENCY CORRUPTION
    Robert F Kennedy, Jr.

    https://www.ecowatch.com/cdc-corruption-robert-kennedy-jr-2096438139.html

    The letter to CDC Chief of Staff, Carmen Villar, expressed alarm “about the current state of ethics at our agency.” The scientists complained that “our mission is being influenced and shaped by outside parties and rogue interests” and “circumvented by some of our leaders.”
    The scientists told Villar that, “questionable and unethical practices, occurring at all levels and in all of our respective units, threaten to undermine our credibility and reputation as a trusted leader in public health.” The letter charged that staff level scientists “are intimidated and pressed to do things they know are not right,” and that, “Senior management officials at CDC are clearly aware and even condone these behaviors…….”

    article link above.

    • Acleron

      An anonymous letter is your evidence? Through your lack of brain matter you cannot understand that scientists are not stupid, they would know in advance that an anonymous letter, with no accompanying evidence would be dismissed by anybody with any intelligence. Only an antivaxxer would be thick enough to both write this and think it would be accepted. Get real.

      So what have you got so far, Hooker’s exaggeration of Thompson, the hilarious Vaxxed (they really should have an unintended comedy Oscar), a missing man with a debunked story and an anonymous letter. It’s so thin, a mosquito could fly through it.

      • FallsAngel

        Thanks for taking this on. I just couldn’t.

        • joe

          That Donald is an absolute loon, I just ignore the idiot.

          • AZ DONALD

            i’m the idiot or is it Robert F Kennedy, Jr. who wrote the article, joe?

          • AZ DONALD

            It’s been a month now joe.
            has that been enough time for you to COMPREHEND the article I posted above by Robert F Kennedy, Jr or do you need a little longer?

  • C Visauer

    I work in a clinic. I do not get flu shots, ever, and have to sign a waiver. This week every person working there who had the shot is very ill with the flu. As of this writing, the 2 of us who declined are well.

    • Acleron

      So your clinic has closed.

      • C Visauer

        They brought in replacements from the local hospital. . Patients may have to travel the 25 miles to next town on Monday if no replacements available.

        • AZ DONALD

          notice how the PRO VAXXERS shut up and never commented on this thread except one?

  • http://hightechforum.org/ Richard Bennett

    The Russian troll factory is pushing this story.

  • FallsAngel

    His body has been found.
    http://www(dot)11alive(dot)com/article/news/crime/officials-body-found-in-chattahoochee-river-is-missing-cdc-scientist/85-535471480
    “ATLANTA — A body found late Tuesday night in the Chattahoochee River is that of a CDC scientist who went missing more than a month ago, officials said on Thursday.”

    • Laura J

      Devastating news for his family. 🙁

    • JoeFarmer

      I’m sure Putin’s minions who run yournewswire will twist it into a conspiracy.

    • shay simmons

      Ah, that is too bad. His poor family.

  • Pat Glass

    Our local media reported this morning that his body has been found in a river.

  • tomboysuze

    This is the doc who was just found dead. Still think this is a coincidence?

  • Clara Outlaw

    I knew they’d find this Dr dead. It’s a shame and if people choose to keep ignoring what these Drs are saying, more people will continue to die from these vaccines. I choose NOT to get any.

  • lyle thorne

    it is known that the flu shot can cause a condition known as, Myocarditis, ,which is a viral attack of the heart muscle,,, the heart will expand to the point without serious medication, to cause death,, ,,in many,,,, it is know as the flu that never goes away,,,, I am one of the few that survived this vir
    is, back in 2000, Doctors do not want this known,,, since my attack, I have talked with others that fortunately survived,,,,, they even wanted to do a heart transplant in me, which I turned down,,, quality over quantity was my reasoning,,, since Dejoxin and other drugs used on me, I have had more than a normal life since recovered and going strong at 74, so no flu shot since the one I had back n 2000, and am in excellent health today,,, so don’t believe them, , sorry!!!!