Florida School Ditches Common Core – Soars To Number One

Florida school ditches Common Core and then quickly soars to number one

A school in Florida that dumped the Common Core program in favor of traditional teaching methods has soared to the number one position in the State’s top schools list, according to government statistics.

Mason Classical Academy, a charter school in Naples, Florida, decided against forcing kids to learn the Obama endorsed Common Core method of teaching, due to the way it deliberately dumbs down children and created unnecessary and complicated methods for working out relatively simple problems.

Naturalnews.com reports: They have rejected the backward approach of Common Core, which sees kids memorize entire words in kindergarten before later being introduced to phonics once they are in elementary school. By that point, their brains are already used to whole words, which makes grasping the concept of phonics and applying it far more difficult than it needs to be.

What does the classical approach embraced by the Academy entail? According to their website, language-focused learning based on written and spoken words makes the brain work harder to convert words into concepts, while image-based approaches encourage passivity. The time-tested approach of phonics is very likely the reason you are able to read this article in the first place, and it’s hard to imagine why anyone would consider it inadequate.

Thanks to the classical approach of phonics, an impressive 90 percent of the third-grade students at Mason Classical Academy were proficient in English Language Arts, compared to just 58 percent in the county overall, most of whom rely on Common Core. In fact, the MCA third-graders were in Florida’s top two percent, while fifth graders from the academy ranked in the state’s top one percent.

These students look even better when you compare them to California, where the state average is just 43 percent proficiency among third graders. Even worse, six public schools in Baltimore do not have a single student who is proficient in either English Language Arts or math. It’s almost like students are being set up to fail.

Of course, not everyone is happy about this school’s success. Common Core proponents are panicking because these results expose the system for the fraud that it is. The school has been on the receiving end of criticism from everyone from the district’s superintendent to the local news outlet Naples Daily News, according to The Freedom Project.

Why is Common Core setting students up to fail?

Among the many criticisms of Common Core is the fact that it is so strongly focused on test results and teachers are so worried about losing their jobs if their students don’t perform that kids are forced into busywork, missing out on the valuable opportunity to develop social skills and boost their well-being through recess outdoors. It also stifles creativity and stresses children out, which can adversely affect their emotional and physical health.

One of its defining characteristics is the way it “dumbs down” many concepts and has students take too many steps to reach conclusions that are obvious to those of us who were schooled the traditional way.

For example, many people were outraged when a second-grade student’s homework went viral after a correct math answer was marked wrong by the teacher because it wasn’t “friendly.” When asked to solve 530-270, the student arrives at the right answer by subtracting the way most of us were taught in school. Although the student got the right answer, his teacher wanted him to solve it by adding 30 to both numbers so the problem would then be 560-300. There are countless other examples of homework just like this one that illustrate how Common Core is unnecessarily confusing and focused on all the wrong things.

  • monica

    Anything that Obama touched is a disaster

    • clarioncaller

      Common-Core was heavily promoted by the Bush’s, especially Jeb in Florida who was a major sponsor.

      • Michael Toso

        Heavily promoted does not mean created. Common Core was created by many educators but that fact is ignored by Anti Common Core!!! Proper research would help!!! Why does Anti Common Core focus on agreement among the clueless?

        • Holly Louise

          Doesn’t really matter who created or who promoted. What matters is what it is and what it does to our kids’ education. People should read the several books concerning problems with CC.

          • Michael Toso

            Must distinguish between Common Core standards & classroom choices. I prefer efforts to improve instead of blame. Even Common Core creators claim bad textbooks & other support. Most complaints are about what it does not control, like testing, data, indoctrination, teaching methods, Islam, etc.
            Use the concerns about Common Core to improve it, that is what engineers & inventors do.

          • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

            Engineers and inventors do not hesitate to start with a blank slate. There is limited opportunity to innovate when standardization has become a goal. TED talks, in fact, started as compensating for student inability to utilize a curriculum that was based on the idea of pounding concepts into peoples’ heads rather than being sparked by their interests. That is why sports, music and art provide opportunity to make learning more of a game than an endurance contest.

          • Michael Toso

            U.S. education is local & teachers know what works best so standards expect locals to determine how to teach. Reading standards proves they are not limits & results depend on great teachers & local support like textbooks & policies to implement any reforms. Education consists of knowledge & learning how to apply it to real problems. Common Core goals include critical thinking, problem solving & effective communication to explain ideas to others including work groups. It promotes going outside the box to explore different approaches & solutions.

          • rystydaag

            Mr Toso, you are so wrong, where do you get the concept that U.S Education is local? It has been controlled by the DOE since the 1908, as I explained in another response to your uneducated information.

            The local school boards must adhere to the State Department of Education, who unfortunately today because of money is controlled by the U.S Department of education which is against constitutional law plain and simple.

            Do the research, look at all sides and put 2 & 2 together, you will see that education in this country is primarily controlled by the Federal government except in those few states who told the to take a hike and threw Common core out, and several other who have redesigned their own system.
            Your comment on miss- information, is totally off base, the Constitution tells us exactly where education standards belong, and it is not at the federal level, and Common Core is pushed by and supported by the Federal government under the Obama adminstration.

            A education program in one state is not necessarily good for another states this has been true for over a 100 years, yet Common Core has this concept that the same thing should be taught in every classroom in every school district in every state.

            there are to many vairables across the 50 states to make this feasible.

            Like I states earlier, whe have built one of the most technically advanced societies in the world based on the education system we have had since to early 1700’s through the 1990’s. This system today is failing us, our students cannot read cursive writing, they know little of our history, they have a total lack of common sense, just look at the people who question these people at random on the streets of our country; the respondents are idiots, that is what we are education in our k12 and colleges across this country today. yes there is a subset of those who strive to educate themselves to a high degree thank God, but the majority who graduate from high school have a 6-7th grade education level, those from junior college a 12th grade education level. this is what you call improvement?

            It is improvement when a student graduates from High School and then has to take a minimum of year of preparatory classes in order to go on to higher education? In our day we came out of High School prepared to go directly into the leading universities in this country and compete our 4-5 years degrees, go on to our Masters and PhD’s,

            This does not happen today in the majority of cases and statistics will show you this.

            Plus the simple fact;] many students do not want to go on to college for a degrees in some field, the want to go into the trades, unfortunately they are directed in this direction by our current education philosophy which causes lots of drop outs and failures in the advanced education forum. We used to tach the trades in our schools and may students went on into those professions, these are skills taht are still required today. Yes some but very few districts are starting to bring this concept back, stepping out of the Common Core everyone must go to college concept. In Minnesota where I used to leive and thank God my kids were educated, we had a Technical college in every county.

            Face the facts, the nation as a whole is against Common Core and the indoctrination text books that are being pushed in our current terrible 35 rand education system in the world, and with these numbers you can support it? Whee did you get you education and when ?

            Facts are Facts!

          • Michael Toso

            You should read why U.S. Stinks at math!!
            https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
            You are describing Trad ed before 1990 & blaming Common Core!!! Teachers adapt to learners while using “one size fits all” classrooms & textbooks. Why would states be more flexible than Feds? That sounds like “old wives tales”!
            I found students who moved between communities often complained about new classmates being way ahead or behind previous ones, even with different teachers in the same schools!! In 1975 I was told it took 2 more years for an engineering degree in U.S. than U.K. 1983 “a Nation At Risk” found U.S. ed behind other countries!! Other nations often require trig & physics for everyone, but U.S. would complain is for math majors only.
            FEDS told states to create standards in the 1990s!! Most were terrible so RTTT asked states. share standards to cooperate in groups & compete. Common Core was NOT required but states did not want to share their standards & used CC instead.

          • Michael Toso

            A DeptEd mission: “research & inform” supports local control. People like you prefer complaining rather than looking for opportunities & cause more harm than good that ruins good intentions.

          • Michael Toso

            You do realize this school DOES Common Core. They just changed their curriculum or textbooks (paper or online).

          • L-M

            They do not do common core.

          • Michael Toso

            This article says they dumped the Common Core for traditional teaching methods.
            There is NO such thing as Common Core method of teaching. Teaching methods are local teacher & textbook choices!! They only talk about curriculum, but Common Core is NOT curriculum!!

          • Michael Toso

            Mason Classical Academy website & this article focus is on curriculum that Common Core is not.
            Follow the Mason Classical Academy curriculum links to find Common Core alignments in Math & English language arts. This article & Mason Classical Academy Curriculum of Core Knowledge reek of Common Core goals. The complaints about Common Core in this article are about Curriculum, that Common Core leaves to local control.
            Would help to understand the issue before judging. This article seems ignorant of the subject.

          • L-M

            My children go there. There is no common core there.

          • Michael Toso

            How do you know?

          • L-M

            Common core makes you do it a certain way. Only learn certain things in that grade and NOT going beyond it. Common core is if you do a problem in a way that is not taught you are wrong. Mason does not do that. The only common core there is the state testing. That’s how I know. I am active in their school all year long.

          • Michael Toso

            Standards, like Common Core, do not require testing. That ESSA state testing is for any standards. Common Core does not require a certain method. Being marked wrong for using a different way is local grading policy & is the way I learned decades ago, LONG BEFORE Common Core.
            I fear you have been misinformed.

          • Michael Toso

            You should ask more informed sources, like the state DeptEd instead of guessing.
            Common Core is a minimum & not a maximum. Local policy determines if exceeding that is allowed.
            Grading is LOCAL policy, including marking a problem wrong for the wrong method.
            ESSA State testing is for any standards even without Common Core.
            Standards are what to learn. Curriculum & teachers choose how to teach the standards.

          • Michael Toso

            Why do you take Common Core state testing if you don’t teach Common Core?

          • Michael Toso

            You are blaming Common Core standards for local control policy & choices!

          • Michael Toso

            Common Core is flexible, the limitations are local choices. Grading has always been a local issue. How can you have Common Core state testing unless you have Common Core?

          • Michael Toso

            You are describing ESSA state testing & local teaching & grading policy, NOT Common Core!!! Ask superintendents, DeptEds, etc.

          • Michael Toso

            The Core Knowledge website says Common Core.

          • StupiditySlayer

            The DOE did not exist until 1979. However, it was designed to dumb down the population. The elites cannot have their precious children competing in life with peons. That’s why for all of their endorsement of public education, they do not put their own children in it. They all go to private schools. It’s good enough for the rest of us, but not good enough for them. The DOE is unconstitutional and needs to be abolished.

          • Michael Toso

            Since anti Common Core does not want to include locals in standards, they get what they asked for- control by others!!

          • DawnfromO

            Incorrect..it is a huge failure by intent…remixing and teaching false claims, it is a production of the Soros mind set via Karl Poppers “Open Society” . Falsification…in matters of all factual claims there is “No truth, No absolutes, No moral attributed, thus ‘the claim’ Fluid gender”….teaching children to live a utopia by falsifying truths !!!! Why do you actually believe statues are coming down across America….because to try and impliment this so-called utopia one must break ALL TRUTHS OF HISTORY, APPLIED SCIENCE, AND GOD….
            CLUE UP….IT IS
            COMMIE CORE

            state ran children

          • Michael Toso
          • Anita DeYoung

            You gulped down all of the Kool Aid!!

          • Michael Toso

            Sounds like you swallowed the misinformation big time. What did you put in YOUR Kool Aid??

          • L-M

            He’s going to keep arguing. it’s not even worth it.

          • Michael Toso
          • Michael Toso

            I have problems with Common Core opponents focus on repeal instead of what grads need. The great majority of complains are fake news based on misinformation.

          • timewalker53

            Learn to spell.

          • Holly Louise

            Actually not.

          • Michael Toso

            Testing & data collection are ESSA, NOT Common Core. Claiming Common Core at fault is fake news!!

          • Michael Toso

            Prove it!!

          • Brent Garner

            Our state mandates Common Core. As a result, just as the article states, we teach to the test all year. This limits what I can do to help specific students. While the theory is that students are free to explore different ways to solve the problem, the reality is my job can be terminated if my students do not make sufficient progress on the tests mandated by Common Core.

          • Michael Toso

            I recommend research. Those tests & data collection were & are mandated by Republican passed NCLB (2003) No Child Left Behind & now ESSA (2015) Every Student Succeeds Act for ALL states even without Common Core. States use results as proof of State ed quality & fairness for Fed funding of NCLB title 1.
            Common Core is NOT the cause of state testing or data collection!!

          • Brent Garner

            I don’t need to do research. I sat in a conference this spring as a run up to our mandated testing and asked the question of state officials regarding the status of common core in Idaho. I was told that, currently, it is the law and that the state had signed a 3 year contract with a vendor to supply and design testing so even if common core went away, we would be required to follow it for at least another 2 years. The state representative clearly linked common core to our testing requirements. She made no mention of NCLB or any other federal regulation. Is that sufficient proof for you?

          • Michael Toso

            That vendor was focused on that vendor’s contract. It does not affect the ESSA mandate for testing & data collection even without Common Core. Next time ask about ESSA & NCLB https://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/essa/faq/essa-faqs.pdf

          • Brent Garner

            I disagree. You are suggesting that a state department official in charge of implementing and overseeing school district compliance with common core standard testing doesn’t know what she is talking about. I think you don’t know what you are talking about. View this: http://freedomoutpost.com/common-core-co-author-admits-wrote-curriculum-end-white-privilege/

          • Michael Toso

            I am saying the focus at the time was with the vendor contract, NOT the NCLB or ESSA law.

          • Brent Garner

            You seem to be a total convert. What you are, in essence, saying to me is that 1) I misunderstood this person from the department of education or 2) she didn’t know what she is talking about. That is insulting to say the least as I have a very good education and my hearing is not so impaired as to prevent me from understanding the spoken word. Second, it is insinuating that you know more than the person who is responsible and answerable to the State Superintendent. You aren’t arrogant, are you?

          • Michael Toso

            I have contacted multiple state ed officials & got the same answer each time!!! States comply with ESSA testing with or without Common Core. The conversation must have been about Common Core testing, not ESSA compliance!!

          • Brent Garner

            The entire conversation was focused on common core testing and, as the state official explained, this testing was mandated by Idaho law in compliance with federal standards driven by common core. Now, I am tired of this conversation. I know the facts. I also know that as local control has evaporated, the quality of education has declined. That is not progress. You are obviously convinced that you have superior knowledge and refuse to accept what I say I saw and heard in person. Ergo, you are an academic bigot who won’t listen to anyone else or consider any other viewpoint. Ge gone! We, the people, do not need elitists like you, telling us how to live our lives.

          • Michael Toso

            I see you focus on opinion rather than the defining laws. This is about understanding Common Core NOT supporting it. You seem unable to distinguish the difference.

          • Brent Garner

            I see you cannot read and understand. I am 61 almost 62 years old. I have taught at the elementary level, the collegiate level, and for the US military. I looked at more learning models than I care to name. I hold a masters degree. I have also traveled in Europe and the Middle East. My experience tells me that Common Core is a fraud. While it is laudable to have students succeed, when you remove parents and local educators from the equation and hand control to faceless bureaucrats you get solutions that do not work. Such a framework results in rigidity more similar to that imposed by Hitler’s Nazi Party and the Soviet Union. All will march to the dictate of someone a thousand or more miles away who, probably, hasn’t been anywhere near a classroom. We don’t need federal, or for that matter, state bureaucrats who have no experience teaching dictating to teachers what they will teach, how they will teach, and what will be the outcome. If you want to support such tyranny, you are an enemy of freedom and of the Constitution. Now, I am going to put you on ignore as you are a blind fanatic of federal control which makes you my enemy and I have much better things to do than to argue with someone who denigrates my experience, education, knowledge, etc.

          • Michael Toso

            ESSA requires testing. The Vendor contract is Common Core. Education is local & Common Core says teachers know what works decide how to teach. I am 65 and am puzzled at your attitude.

          • Michael Toso

            I am a 65 year old electrical engineer & computer scientist. I would go broke without solid research!!
            I rely on experts. Here is NCTM math teachers view.
            http://www.nctm.org/Standards-and-Positions/Common-Core-State-Standards/Teaching-and-Learning-Mathematics-with-the-Common-Core/

          • Anita DeYoung

            BRAVO!!

          • Michael Toso

            You were focused on testing that happened to be for Common Core that ESSA dictates for states even without Common Core.

          • Michael Toso

            I am reading the applicable definitions, ESSA & NCLB laws & Common Core standards.
            Here is a quote from ESSA “https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-114s1177enr/pdf/BILLS-114s1177enr.pdf”

            “Each State plan shall demonstrate that the State educational agency, in consultation with local educational agencies, has implemented a set of high quality student academic assessments in mathematics, reading or language arts, and science.”

            This means the FEDS ESSA requires state assessments!! It goes on to say Common Core is NOT required & cannot even be promoted by Feds or DOE.

          • Michael Toso

            I suggest asking the state department official directly instead of guessing!!! Read the ESSA & NCLB laws!! Testing is required even without Common Core. Ask non Common Core states like Texas, Nebraska, Virginia etc.
            ESSA requires testing. Specific standards like Common Core limits which tests can be used!

          • Michael Toso

            I suggest asking the state department official directly about which requires testing, Common Core or ESSA(NCLB). The Fed ESSA/NCLB laws are much stronger proof than news articles.
            ESSA requires testing. Standards like Common Core just define which tests can be used.

          • Michael Toso

            Actual Fed ESSA/NCLB laws are much stronger evidence than news articles! ESSA requires testing, actual standards, like Common Core define which tests can be taken.

          • Michael Toso

            Your news article shows a TEXTBOOK problem, NOT Common Core racist etc bias.

          • Brent Garner

            You didn’t listen to the embedded video did you. The man stated the purpose of Common Core. That is the point of disagreement. Common Core is a fraud. It’s public face is to claim it will improve education, when in reality, its purpose is to subvert and to destroy. Common Core is nothing more than further attempts by elitists to create a two tier society. That is a society of them at the top and the rest of us kneeling in submission. Tear it up! Throw it out! The education i received many years ago from the public school system is vastly superior to what I see teachers to day struggling to implement as they are forced to comply with an increasing burden of legislative and regulatory demands.

          • Michael Toso

            The success of any reform, like Common Core, depends on great teachers, training textbooks & support as seen by the difference between New York & California.
            https://edsource.org/2016/new-york-stumbles-california-advances-on-common-core-implementation/92986
            1834 “North American Arithmetic” said “much of math is practiced but little is learned”. I found many adults quickly confused by simple real life problems because they learned tables & procedures but not how & why math worked.
            I understood the embedded video DID YOU? Many adults did not experience the Brown Vs Education board or they would have agreed.
            Many adults can’t think critically or solve problems unless in standard form.
            Standards teach the same skills to everyone but is not a limitation. CC is the minimum or what everyone should learn but not a limitation.

          • TS_1

            Form over substance is never successful.

          • Michael Toso

            Standards focus on substance. Form or how to teach is local choice. Anyone who reads Common Core knows that.

          • TS_1

            I suppose if what you say is true, then this school’s performance was an oddity. We measure from results as anyone who has managed an organization will tell you.

          • Michael Toso

            People tend to forget that U.S. education is LOCAL. Any reform depends on great LOCAL teachers, training & support like textbooks.

          • Anita DeYoung

            The word “academy” is a clue that it is not a local public school. Public schools are at the throne of the DOE for their financing.

          • Michael Toso

            I notice you have no argument against me. You must be agreeing with the facts!!

          • Michael Toso

            Mason Classical Academy curriculum of Core Knowledge Language Arts & Singapore math are used as Common Core curriculum. CKLA is used in EngageNY. Amazing people try to blame Common Core for local curriculum choices then celebrate when they think they succeeded without Common Core

          • sportymom5

            Common Core standards are NOT more “rigorous” as its proponents claim. Since you (Michael) want to focus ONLY on math and English/Language Arts, let’s go there. Sandra Stotsky, the ONLY ELA expert and a member of the Massachusetts state board of education, hired to validate CC ELA standards, refused to sign off on the standards because they were inferior to the previous standards in many states and “cannot prepare students for authentic college course work.” Likewise, math professor James Milgram, the ONLY mathematician on the CC validation committee, refused to sign off on the math standards saying they would put students two years behind other countries by the time they reach 8th grade and the “get even worse in high school.” He has also publicly stated that only 5% of AP students intending to enter STEM professions, ever graduate with a STEM degree. Even Jason Zimba, one of three creators of Common Core math, admits that the term “college ready” is a “minimal definition of college readiness” and that it is “not only NOT for STEM but NOT for ‘selective’ colleges.” These statements are available on video and in print. http://www.educationviews.org/common-core-college-career-standards-big-fraud/. For the record, I haven’t read every single comment in this thread, but from my observation, Michael, you are the only one using the term “racism.” Anti-American, anti-Christian and pro-islam bias have been cited hundreds of times by concerned parents nationwide in Pearson (Common Core) textbooks, but their voices are being drowned out by the educrats, many of whom who treat parents with contempt. One of my own local school board members confirmed very recently that our public school teachers are required to teach the five pillars of islam. Why then, are we not teaching them the Protestant apostles creed, the catechism, or the tenets of the Jewish faith? Bill Gates, who dumped billions of his own money into the development of Common Core, signed an agreement with UNESCO in 2004 to train teachers worldwide to teach Common Core. States like Florida and most other states – many with GOP governors have changed 1 to 3% of the curriculum and simply renamed it – like “Florida Standards” Our college entrance exams are Common Core aligned. The lucrative business of Common Core “edcuation” (indoctrination) pays big dividends to the (partially) Saudi shareholder owned multi-billion dollar Pearson conglomerate, which has bought out most of the major publishing companies worldwide (like Houghton-Mifflin and many others), testing corporations and data tracking organizations. It’s proponents and supportive politicians have everything to gain and nothing to lose by supporting Common Core. it will take an act of God to remove the curse of Common Core and to restore true local control of education.

          • Michael Toso

            Common Core like any standards is an outline for skills or knowledge required. Textbooks fill in the details. PLEASE compare them before judging!! I do not doubt I am alone in my observations. People look at homework, not standards.
            Even Common Core creators are frustrated at the poor quality curriculum (books).
            Local control requires CHOICES!! Textbook publishers need market demand to change textbooks & locals lack such demand. That is why Feds told states to take charge & create standards in the 1990s. When most states failed, Race to the Top encouraged states to form groups to cooperate & compete with multiple standards. Any state could share its standards to compete with Common Core. They focused on Common Core instead with some states going alone.
            Why are you concerned about Common Core teaching Islam etc when it is ENGLISH & MATH, NOT history? The people saying Islam is taught but not Christianity or other religions seem to forget History is not ONE book or grade!

          • sportymom5

            Michael is apparently being paid to advocate for Common Core. The facts don’t matter. Common Core is inferior! The ONLY TWO EXPERTS ON THE “VALIDATION COMMITTEE” AND EVEN THE CREATORS OF COMMON CORE MATH AND ELA ADMIT THAT IT WILL NOT PREPARE KIDS FOR COLLEGE! Why do you continue to defend the indefensible?

          • Michael Toso

            You really are confused. Explaining facts like Common Core is not history does NOT mean support!! Texas outlawed Common Core yet found their standards are close to being the same.
            http://hechingerreport.org/texas-new-math-standards-look-whole-lot-like-common-core/

          • Gil Teran

            Common Core is about vendors & kick-backs to those pushing & promoting @ the federal level. That’s why countless states/local school districts are being held hostage for federal funding if they don’t implement. You may be correct in saying that it is not a requirement of said state or local school to participate…but, it will clearly come at a cost by not complying to the mandated federal requirement to the contrary!!! Nice try slick, but you aren’t fooling anybody…

          • Michael Toso

            Fed funding is about high standards proven by the states own colleges, NOT any specific standards. Read NCLB or RTTT or ask state Depteds. You obviously haven’t checked!! Sharing the same standards is cheaper. But ask Oklahoma. They say no need to buy new books!!!!

          • Michael Toso

            Fed requirement is HIGH quality & effective results without requiring specific content, standards or testing. If you had read the defining dox you would know. I focus on solutions while you are too busy arguing against Common Core to focus on anything positive to help grads.

          • Michael Toso

            You really are confused. Common Core is about standards. The textbook industry is where your vendors & kick-backs are a problem that exists with or without Common Core.

          • mutantgeezer

            Michael Toso…. Virtually ALL of the Common Core criticisms are well deserved

          • Michael Toso

            Most Common Core complaints are textbooks issue, confusion with other subjects & ESSA testing & data. The math methods are chosen by teachers & textbooks, NOT Common Core.

        • rystydaag

          Sorry Mr. Tosco, it was crated by a political think tank in Washington D.C. check out it’s actual history, those educators that were involved many dropped out and even refused to endorse it because of the simple fat it was dumbing down our students and putting them years behind other countries especially in Math.

          You are listening to the left propaganda and believing every bit of it. do the research I have for the past 6 years, what they DOE and Obama adminstration told you about a governors board etc was hogwash pure and simple.
          It basically stated in 2008 and maybe a couple years before but full practice of implementation was in 2008, lead by Janet Napalitano, the governor of Arizona, later .the effort was spearheaded by the NGA, CCSSO and Achieve think tanks, 90% to the left of center.

          It has been a disaster nationwide and local school board performance data shows it is a failure. Thanks in part to financial incentives dangled by the Obama administration, more than 40 states had adopted them, the states would not have accepted this standard had i not been their geed for federal money. 2013 in states like New York, and Indiana new Common Core-aligned tests had sent scores plummeting, ,”I have a Bachelor of Science Degree in Electronics Engineering which included extensive study in differential equations and other high-math applications, Even I cannot explain the Common Core mathematics approach, nor get the answer correct.”

          The CCSS adds nothing to what we know about how to teach reading. It adds nothing to how we teach arithmetic and mathematics. It adds nothing to how we teach history, geography, and the “social studies.” In short, it is a fraud to get the American taxpayer to shell out big bucks for something that we already know how to do. Yes, science has greatly expanded, but it also expanded from 1850 to 1950 and didn’t require a different methodology from the scientific method developed by the great scientists of the past. We may have better equipment which students of science must learn to operate, but the scientific method has not changed.

          And of course, the CCSS were made to be as complicated as possible so that no parent or normal human being could understand them. For example, there is something called “Common Core State Standards Official Identifiers and XML Representation.” It states:

          People of my generation built this world to what it is today, we went to the Moon and back, have sent satellites off into deep space, built fantastic airplanes that fly, all of this happening over the past 80 plus years-NO Common Core. today I would hate to fly in a plane built by an individual who throughout their education was allowed to get acceptable on his math problems even of the end answer was wrong, but he followed the Common Core procedure to arrive at that solution!

          Every single education p[program that the Federal govt has tried to push on the people has been a total failure, No Child Left Behind cost $7 Billion dollars, Race To TheTop anther catastrophic failure,

          Education is primarily a State and local responsibility in the United States. It is States and communities, as well as public and private organizations of all kinds, that establish schools and colleges, develop curricula, and determine requirements for enrollment and graduation, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT! 92 percent of the funds for public schooling comes from non-Federal sources.

          In 1965 the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA Pub.I.89-1- Stat 27, 20 U.S.C. ch 70) launched a comprehensive set of programs.. The Act funds primary and secondary education, while explicitly forbidding the establishment of a national curriculum.

          The Department of Education made a Government department in the 1980 by Jimmy Carter is illegal under the Constitution of this country,
          The Federal government is not given authority under our Constitution to establish or control education, it is a states right under the 10th amendment.

          Common C ore has to go, and the Federal Government needs to get out of their forced indoctrination upon our nation by eliminating the Department of Education.

          The only states that have continued to go with Common Core are thoise being given money by the Federal government to do so,

    • Blue

      You are both so very correct.

    • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

      Actually, it does not have a lot to do with Obama, or GW Bush ( No Child Left Behind ) or any U.S. President. Acceptable curriculum is affected by pressures from UNESCO defining what is to be taught in education. That is how the idea that man controls nature superseded the one that natural forces are in play to create conditions on our world came about – and climate change consensus is only one example of absolute tommyrot promoted by a mindwash brigade. Search YouTube for articles by Charlotte Iserbyt outlining the Dumbing Down of children. To do that it was necessary to wrest control from school boards and parents and put corporations and governments in charge of ‘standards’….the better to homogenize bullshit.

      • Diana Austrich

        Jeb Bush and Bill Gates put $200M to start Common Core to which it was researched and implemented in the school system. I read this and knew who started it from the get go! The Gates and Bushes are part of the elite that to control population you start with the young as well as Gates idea of vaccines to control the young to have issues having kids. Its all about population control.

        • Benjamin Smith

          Bill Gates usually has the magic touch and whatever JEB touches turns to shit…. I guess this is what happens when the immovable object meets the unstoppable force.

          • Razedbywolvs

            Jeb is to retarded to take blame for that. His mom told him to do it and every buddy knows it.

      • Mel

        Actually Obama had a LOT to do with it.

        In order to get states to get their hands on the 400 billion stimulus dollars set aside for Education under Obama (remember that?) they had to AGREE to use the gov’t CommonCore as spelled out in Obama’s Education plan, Race To The Top. His lefty buddies FUNDED and created it (Bill Gates and Co.) and Obama soft-pushed it blackmailing with money to the states that agreed. Most did.

      • Tripin S

        I hope Bush and Obama rot in hell.

      • Not Amused

        No Child Left behind was a HUGE platform that Clinton ran on and pushed through.
        Unfortunately for W when he was elected it was on his desk for him to sign. Though he could’ve vetoed, his ONLY action towards it was putting his name on it.

        • KVH

          His signature indicated that he acknowledged and agreed with what was put before him. That is what a signature is for.

          • Not Amused

            False, it indicated that the Senate (D controlled) and House (D Controlled) had agreed to the previous administration’s (D – Clinton) pushing of it.
            W’s signature was a grandiose gesture and he had no say. The house and senate said that any veto would be overturned with a 2/3’s vote.
            It was also a way for W to show that he was willing to cross the aisle.
            Had he known the lunatic turn the Dems would take during his 8 years he never would’ve signed.

    • Stephanie Ladd

      Then why is our economy doing well? Trump has not been president long enough to influence that!

      • Vixnart

        Consumer confidence. It is 100% due to President Trump being elected.

        • Vixnart

          Sadly it is now dropping as we begin having doubts that our government will stand behind the American people’s choices and help our president do what we put him there to do. With all the obstruction we are becoming weary and fear it may be too late.

          • Sally murphy

            Just what did you put him therevto do?

          • Michael Toso

            Problem is Trumpers voted for campaign slogans, not experience or ability to affect the actions of the most dysfunctional Congress with lowest approval ever!!

          • bluesscout

            Because of liberals

          • Michael Toso

            Seems that Tea Party wanted dysfunction & Republicans voted for Trump. How were liberals at fault?

          • bluesscout

            At fault for everything wrong with AMERICA…EVERYTHING

          • bluesscout

            Liberals at fault for everything wrong in america

          • Michael Toso

            Are conservatives trying to end the liberal idea to allow everyone the freedom of speech? Why do conservatives think liberal comments in classwork threatens conservative values?

          • bluesscout

            I did…america.you liberal stoolturd

          • Michael Toso

            Then why complain when people think differently? You seem to need Common Core independent critical thinking to help understand & avoid bias.

          • bluesscout

            What i need are less people like you with all the answers

          • Michael Toso

            What we need are more people researching in the right places. Then we will find MORE people with good solutions.

          • bluesscout

            Toso i earned my place in american history shitturd…did you?nah…you never served.you think ur entitled dont you.wish i had ur face in front of my fist

          • Michael Toso

            I served in the military during the Vietnam War. You should be more courteous!

          • Michael Toso

            Constitution says freedom of speech for everyone, a liberal value! But conservatives think that threatens their values!

        • Sally murphy

          No, just the stupidity.

        • Bill Carter

          Maybe you want to really think what consumer confidence measures. It’s like the words “nice weather”. Just wait a few days it will change.

      • Winston Ross

        Well, speculators control the markets. The night Trump was elected worldwide markets dropped and Gold shot up well over $100 overnight for safe haven demand. Nevermind, Stephanie you don’t understand any of this. Trump’s policies and all star cabinet of business people made the US stock market thrive and if you have a 401K plan, thank Trump and look at your numbers since election night. THis is all 100% Trump because he went to power under removing the stifling employer mandate of Obamacare and he invited the CEOs and business leaders of every sector of the economy to identify to Pres Trump himself what can I do to help you grow business and increase investment. I know those watching CNN don’t get this information, hence why I am here to help you Stephanie. Additionally, lowering the tax rates and a lower penalty to repatriate cash reserves overseas, these ideas have driven optimism. Now if Trump cannot deliver on the promises of no employer mandate, tax reform for individuals and more importantly businesses, you might be better off taking your 401K gains, pay the 10% penalty and go an buy physical gold for safe haven demand. I hear real estate prices are at an all time high again in some areas and the Congress is looking to remove Dodd Frank and we know what happened the last time there was no Dodd Frank and all time high real estate prices and no optimism.

        • Nick

          … we know what happened the last time there was no Dodd Frank and all time high real estate prices…

          Yes, we do. They’re calling it the Great Recession.

        • http://www.dalydose.com/ Jeff Daly

          Aren’t we discussing common core?

        • Michael Toso

          AGAIN, based on expectations & we know the DC dysfunction continues.

      • Joshua Cj Cohen

        Keep drinking that koolaid, sister. The upswing in the economy has everything to do with Obama and the fact that he is no longer the President.

        • bluesscout

          You already smoked up all that crack you got when Obama was the worst pres America has ever had

      • Holly Louise

        He’s influenced the economy greatly and positively so far.

    • Bill Carter

      As though Obama had something to do with the methodology. You people are so hateful it is pathetic.

      • Cadiz

        OK, now call then racist, isn’t that the next thing in the Liberal repertoire? If you didn’t agree with Obama’s budget priorities, you must have been racist. If you didn’t agree with his wishy washy foreign policies, you must’ve been a racist. Get real Bill Carter, disagreeing with a methodology that was pushed by a particular administration is not being hateful. Try to stop being an a$$.

        • Bill Carter

          I will abide you the name calling if you will abide me the privilege of explaining to you that the NGA (National Governor’s Assoc. and the CCSCO (Council of Chief State School Officers) formulated the Common Core. Neither of these are under the jurisdiction of the POTUS.
          http://www.newsweek.com/conservatives-have-forgotten-common-core-reagan-invention-370429
          I am not an educator but I know some who are and they are still debating the value and practicality of CC. My comment was simply that many of the responses tried to tie Obama into the issue. 1-I never mentioned racism, 2-I never mentioned liberalism. However, since you felt the liberty to call me an ass and that I am ignorant, I will take the liberty to tell you that you are one of the hateful and pathetic that I speak of. If you are trolling try staying on subject.

          • Scooter Motoretta

            You didn’t really expect a reply from a troll? Once they know their cover is blown, they scuttle for cover like a rat with their tail between their legs.

          • Michael Toso

            Funny, it is usually Anti Common Core that runs for cover when their arguments are proved to be non factual. OR are they the trolls you refer to?

          • bluesscout

            Lol…is that why they call you scooter

          • John A. Latham

            It is true that Obama didn’t develop Common Core; however, it is also true that he had criticized “No Child Left Behind” and his administration shifted the educational grant money that had been tied to “No Child Left Behind” to the implementation and use of Common Core. Now, you are also correct that it was supported by people in both parties to included Jeb Bush…but the fact remains that Obama owned it when his administration tied federal funds to it.

          • Bill Carter

            I think you have oversimplified a complicated situation but if it makes the Obama bashers feel better I will yield that he supported it. But, we are here and now and common core is still debated. I just didn’t see how the person I was responding to made Obama and Liberals the issue.

          • bluesscout

            Oh but they are the issue Mr carter

          • Michael Toso

            Obama did NOT own Common Core but simply helped fund standards supported by states. RTTT wanted multiple groups of states to cooperate & compete. Why does Anti Common Core fail to research & quote the actual standards & compare with homework? That indicates superstition (belief without proof), NOT facts.

          • Michael Toso

            No Child Left Behind was still in force when Race to the Top encouraged states to form groups to share effort & compete to create better standards. States only formed the ONE Common Core group but any state with high standards could have created a competitor to Common Core!! You would not complain if states would have created more groups like Race to the Top wanted!!

          • rystydaag

            Sorry Mr Carter; you are totally misinformed, it was started by Janet Napaltano in 2008, they were just part of a much bigger picture and had absolutely nothing to do with the formation of the curriculum of th Common Core, which ended up being run by a think tank in Washington DC. Then the government step in, offered the states money to take the program, this in it’s self was totally illegal if you look at the constitution or understand exactly what ESSA is about. their own statement says it all “explicitly forbidding the establishment of a national curriculum.” exactly what do you call Common Core?You people on the left will never admit something is wrong because your socialist leaders created it, they have done their work by indoctrination you to all they say is right and everyone else is wrong.

            Common Core is a massive failure just like every other education program the federal government has attempted to push on the system, programs to be exact, everyone failed, the last 2 RTTP and NCLBH. $7 billion failures.

          • Bill Carter

            RYSTYDAAG. Thanks for sharing your point of view, but just as with most things coming from the right, first you tell me I am wrong, then you give me your intepretation of the facts (no more founded or unfounded than mine) then you attempt to vilify anyone left of you with “you people will never…” and your stock remarks about Obama tell me more about you and your political persuasion than it does about Common core. Although I am not an educator I have friends and family in the system and they don’t feel it is a failure. So, the debate on Common Core’s beginning, it’s nexus and it’s end result continues.

        • Jack

          Thanks, Cadiz, for “going there.”

          All that is mentioned is Common Core.

          • Bill Carter

            Cadiz brought her own agenda to the table.

        • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

          Those alleged wishy washy foreign policies involved more killing in more countries than had ever occurred before. The Nobel Peace Prize awarded at the start of his terms has to be one of the most ridiculous bits of snark possible.Obama’s drone war is a shameful part of his legacy https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-drone-war-is-a-shameful-part-of-his-legacy/2016/05/05/a727eea8-12ea-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html?utm_term=.83339e7f926a

      • bluesscout

        You stepped in a pile of shit with that ignorant statement Mr carter…lol.

        • Bill Carter

          Knowing you rated it as “ignorant” gives it far more value than even I anticipated. rotfl.

          • bluesscout

            Duhhhh..uhhh .duhhh..as if you had the ability to anticipate

          • Bill Carter

            As if you had the ability to sustain a coherent argument.

          • bluesscout

            Lol..dont pretend you know something about how this country works you fuckin idiot;you dont.dont pretend to be a man with me because you believe you have the ability to think above others.some of us do not entertain the notion of free debate.theres the truth and there is what idiots like you think what the world is when havin a free discussion based on ur pathetic knowledge of what you think is goin on.You kno nuthin..zero…nada..coherent conversation?ur a driveling fool who thinks hes educated

          • Bill Carter

            ROTFL…you have such a way with words. SMH.

    • Gk

      That’s you’re take away from this article?! You’re hate is pathetic.

      • Holly Louise

        Let’s not get into a “who’s more hate-filled debate;” the left wins that one hands down every time.

        • Scooter Motoretta

          You’ve got huge blinkers on to come up with that. You nigger hating Ku Klux Klan facist nazis lead the list on that.

          • Joshua Cj Cohen

            Oh look, some ignorant wretch said “nazi.”

          • Scooter Motoretta

            Because it accurately describes you and what you are. No use calling you a pussy when that description is totally inadequate.

          • Joshua Cj Cohen

            Oh look, another omniscient liberal who knows all things about people he’s never met. If you were slightly less ignorant you would know the etymology of my name and not have made an ass of yourself. Go back to your ANTIFA meeting in someone’s basement.

          • Scooter Motoretta

            You’re focusing a lot of your insecurity and fear on someone who has no idea of what the hell you are saying. It’s true I have no idea of the entomology of Joshua but I do know where to look it up if I gave a damn about it. You’re merely another minor annoyance on the level of a midge. Inconsequential and insignificant but rest assured, I’m deeply sorry for you and you have my pity. You really must learn not to think people care about what you post.

          • bluesscout

            Oh but you do scooter cootie..lol

          • bluesscout

            His name is scooter..lol

          • bluesscout

            Hahahahahaha…what a maroon

      • Cadiz

        Accusing people of being hateful with no basis is pathetic.

        • Bill Carter

          You don’t get to determine the basis for others, only for yourself.

          • bluesscout

            Great come back Billie boy!!

      • bluesscout

        You mistake hate for the truth?!

    • Rehab

      Replace Obama with big socialized government and you’re spot on.

  • Piontro Pechetrini

    So, deliberately are trying to turn smart kids into what the USA citizens have become now. Reading the example that 16% of the USA population believes that chocolate milk come from Brown Cows, WOW !!! That is scary.

    • wernerpd

      I believe that was always the intent behind Kommunist Korps. Dumb down the next generation of kids to make them future “useful idiots” for the left’s army to take over Amerika. So far, mission accomplished.

    • Michael Toso

      Teaching grads how to think independently, analyse critically & solve problems is dumbing down smart kids? Adults have trad ed, not Common Core so you complain about old school learning that Common Core is trying to fix. Any reform depends on great teachers & textbooks to decide HOW to teach required skills. Anti Common Core looks at homework, not what skills are being learned & how standards affect local choices.

  • Stephen Green

    Phonics based approaches need to be mixed with other methods or they will kill creativity and often lead to diminished comprehension and poor personal reading habits. Reading, taught properly, should lead to better critical thinking skills.

    • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

      Reading, taught properly, will be so much fun kids won’t need to be browbeaten to do it.

      • Stephen Green

        Exactly!

    • Dina Anderson

      we just need students to stay in school and be active and alert on their studies and get Good teachers that know the art of teaching what they know, not just toss books at them and say ok read and pass tests.. and then be checking with the parents so they also get involved.. they wanted a child so now you have to put some effort into it to nurture so it grows, thrives, evolves and learns to function independent of parents and anyone but be willing to ask for help if and when needed, these are the jobs of parents and teachers to accomplish and if they fail to do so then so fails the child and the system and the world, such as it has been doing and is in the case of now so pathetically.

      • Michael Toso

        The biggest reason for failure is inability of critics to understand by refusal to read the actual documents that define the topic.

    • Calgal

      This kind of response is what’s so discouraging for those of us who want the absolute best for our children! The article highlighted a school that is top ranked. What is different about the school? The school’s focus on literacy where EXPLICIT phonics is taught. We’ve tried these blended approaches and gotten mediocre results. Reading, taught properly, leads to children able to read complex texts such as Treasure Island at a young age, just like our grandparents and great grandparents did before whole language waged battle on literacy.

      • Aculady

        Common Core doesn’t prescribe any particular curriculum, but the standards certainly require explicit phonics instruction, starting in Kindergarten:
        http://www.corestandards.org/ELA-Literacy/RF/K/

        • http://www.yoyo.com melly

          Can you push those Sales links to this Corporate Education Method any harder?

          • Aculady

            Huh? The claim was made above that the difference between the charter school instructional method and the Common Core Standards was explicit phonics instruction. The Common Core Standards include explicit phonics instruction from the earliest grade. I’m not pushing a corporate education method, I’m correcting a factual mis-statement in a discussion, and I’m including a supporting link.

          • Michael Toso

            Any explicit instruction would include such things as actual word lists & it doesn’t.

          • Michael Toso

            Stop the inaccurate descriptions & actually read the facts BEFORE judging!

      • Stephen Green

        I’m an English teacher, we tried your crappy Phonics only approach in the UK for a number of years and it resulted in a bunch of kids that could read but couldn’t understand what they were reading and didn’t bother reading because focusing only on the mechanics of language had made reading about as interesting for children as algebra is.

      • Michael Toso

        Mason Classical Academy uses Core Knowledge Language Arts & SIngapore math that are also used by Common Core schools!! Amazing what can be accomplished with quality curriculum & great teachers & training even under Common Core!!!

    • Michael Toso

      You are promoting Common Core & standards with its goals!!

  • https://www.Gab.ai Aristotle

    I read “charter school” and my mind went blank and I started screaming WHITE SCHOOL and throwing chicken tenders around my room.

    /liberals

    • disqus_rrU40ADrms

      Who gives a shit if it is a “White” school or a “Not-so White” school? What counts are the educated students, capable of critical thinking, that it produces. And BTW guess which two groups turn out in the top 1% of world high schools? How about Asians and Whites?

    • deplorable

      Aristotle…racist much?? wow

      • http://www.defensemedianetwork.com John Madden

        Somehow you managed to completely miss the sarcasm in his comment. The little “/liberals” tag was just sitting right there, waiting for you to see it and realize he’s joking. But you missed it. Maybe give it a re-read so you can get the joke and laugh a little.

        • janeite1900

          Rereading is a Common Core method. Don’t fall for it. It’s communist propaganda.

    • Dina Anderson

      there is no white school or black or indian or whatever type of school they are mixed thru out the system. where did you get a wild idea like segregated schooling?

      • janeite1900

        I’m going to guess Aristotle got that idea because so many charter schools are white privilege’s answer to segregation. Just a guess, though.

      • Cadiz

        It was probably just his ignorance and racism.

      • Michael Toso

        Must have been a leftover thought from 1960s before busing! Eisenhower sent national guard into Little Rock to escort a few blacks to a white school in 1950s. But private schools still bias based mostly on income or belief.

    • Sleeveheart

      I should try chicken tenders. Potato salad is hard to remove from venetian blinds.

    • Michael Toso

      You should thank liberals for being more open to new ideas like the Earth is round & revolves around the Sun. Common Core is about skills needed & teachers following textbooks figure out HOW to teach it. Standards do not focus on curricula, testing, data or ideology. Anti Common Core seems highly misinformed.

  • disqus_rrU40ADrms

    You should be able to arrive at the same result by either method. Knowing “classical” subtraction is good because not every combinations of numbers can easily be made “friendly”.

    • carlusha

      When you learn all the different ways of doing arithmetic you don’t have to think about how you do it. Your brain does it for you automatically . That’s how math was taught at my school- I went to school overseas. I was hoping

      • Dina Anderson

        its just like using metric or not we gave it a try years ago when they wanted the US to convert and it never caught on so evidently what we were using was working fine so we remained on non metric and the worlds still revolving and functioning to spite it lol

        • carlusha

          Are you saying we are too dumb in this country to learn new things ? Or even old – like grammar ? Lol

          • Pat Cannon

            yes, we are.

          • Michael Toso

            Maybe that is why adults cannot understand critical thinking & that different political views are part of the whole picture. As an engineer, I understand no single view is perfect.

        • bumbershootgirl

          I find it fascinating, as a 30-year. preK-college-level veteran of the classroom, that every single grade level I’ve taught for the past 12 years easily work and think in metric because the math and science books from elementary up ALL use it. We teach the American system, too, but the kids have learned to not be so focused on flat memorization we once taught (they probably won’t be able to tell you how many feet are in a mile, but most adults over 30 can’t either and that was something they’d have reviewed with kids over and over and over from 3rd grade up). Today’s math is more focused on using the measurement as a tool to solve problems. THAT is what Common Core, when taught correctly, is focused on. It actually gives teachers more flex and breadth to teach, but state tests often are directly connected to 1 or 2 publishers’ texts. And, the article above skews dramatically what Common Core supposedly does when teaching literature. Phonics, sight words, Latin/Greek roots, and many other comprehension/fluency skills are taught within it, as well they should be.

          • Rebecca Vogelezang

            Glad to see someone else advocating for Common Core – I teach 2nd and LOVE that I can reach so many more students by introducing multiple strategies. I also agree that this article largely misconstrues the way CC teaches Reading.

          • Michael Toso

            I find it amazing that Anti Common Core thinks its multiple strategies means limited to only ONE way to solve problems. Should thank kings of fake news Dr. Pesta & Glenn Beck.

        • bumbershootgirl

          I also think it is noteworthy that the primary reason the U.S. did not go full bore into the metric system was because of the auto manufacturing industry here during the 1970’s and early 80’s. There’s significant documentation, from articles in the main newspapers of the day, to 60 Minutes excerpts, to even the Jr. Scholastic and Weekly Reader newspapers we passed out in classrooms, that it was considered too expensive to retool our auto manufacturing to metric and still be competitive with foreign manufacturing plants. NAFTA and other industry changes have certainly lessened the importance of American standard (Imperial standard)-only measurement. I would also note that many people in Canada, Great Britain, and other countries still use portions of the old measuring system for tasks like baking cakes when the measurements call for it. It’s a smart thing to be able to work back and forth between systems, to be able to think about what you need to do, rather than just mechanically work within one system.

      • scragsma

        The whole concept of having one method favored by the national government is absurd. The federal government has no business sticking its nose into education, period.

        • janeite1900

          Common Core doesn’t promote one method. If you look at the actual standards, you can see it lists lots of ways to solve problems.

        • Nick

          Common Core wasn’t put together by the feds, it was done by the states.

        • johans

          AMEN!!! The education of children is a state and local responsibility. Just like other things – get the feds involved an it all goes to h— in a hand basket. As a retired educator of 25 years, I’m dismayed at the decline morale in schools as teachers have to worry every day about their “results.” They spend inordinate amounts of time and resources training students for successful test results. This time an resource should be directed at teaching real skills that can be generalized into life skills. The Pavlovian Response being encouraged does not translate. The stronger students are going to be stronger anyway. The weaker students still won’t get it because they don’t have the maturity or background skills to ‘get it.’ The middle students might look stronger. Is that doing anybody any good? Let teachers teach as they know from training and experience. Let government do their jobs and stay out of unknown territory for which they have little or no training.

          • Michael Toso

            We are talking about Common Core, NOT NCLB testing & data to ensure quality & fairness. Common Core says TEACHERS know what works in the classroom. Common Core says what skills to teach & teachers following textbooks decide HOW to teach. I am surprised teachers get the facts confused. I interpret the DOE mission “research & inform” as a library function to SUPPORT local control because locals focus on local concerns & not on how to compete with other states or nations.
            My question is WHY do people want choices limited by state or any other borders? I don’t want Amazon to ask which state then limit my choices. We need a POSITIVE discussion.

          • Michael Toso

            I don’t know how trad ed was practical. I found many adults unable to translate basic mail carrier (sort & deliver) & assembly line (setup & travel) principles to other tasks like stocking shelves & shopping. Amazing people know what assembly lines are but not why they work.

    • nukkeldragr

      And, since when did “friendly” become a mathematical term? Liberals seem to want to inject emotion into everything, and discourage logic, and critical thinking skills. Emotions have their place, but are irrelevant in math, just as they are in many other things. This is beside the point that the government-run, public education system seems to have social/political “group-think” indoctrination as its primary focus – as opposed to training a child to think, and act, rationally, and logically, so as to be successful as an individual. Liberal elites desperately want “the masses” to be controllable, passive, compliant, dependent – and stupid.

      • Michael Toso

        Trad math teaching creates generations of math haters who thought math was for engineers & not useful for average people. That requires a different attitude like “friendly” to overcome those generations of bias!!!

    • Delila Bertelsen

      yes, you can arrive at the answer in different ways. The point is that adding and then subtracting and then having to remember what you added to begin with so you know what to subtract after you’ve subtracted is rather awkward.

      • Carol Soos

        And unnecessary!!!

        • Michael Toso

          Is counting sheep like Sesame St unnecessary? We find different number representations & methods help understand math operations and concepts. 1834 “North American Arithmetic” says “much of arithmetic is practiced but little learned”. Trad math trained generations of human calculators but practical math illiterates unable to solve problems unless in standard form.

      • bumbershootgirl

        But, it is exactly what most people do automatically when they are doing a math problem in their head. The awkward part is that, as teachers, we are trying to get the kids to articulate the same thinking they might do when mentally figuring elapsed time; the total cost, minus discount and then added tips, at a restaurant; potential gas mileage and the risk of waiting 50 miles to get to that next gas station (or, if you are in Canada, those 90ish kilometers). Those are things we do daily and that we didn’t have to spend so much time teaching kids back when they actually handled money, when everyone used analog watches (still important for teaching ratios, fractions, and many other skills beyond time), when kids spent time measuring, cooking, and making a variety of things, etc.

        • Oddfool

          So true. Even something simple as counting money. Many people have no problem counting the 20’s. (20, 40, 60, 80), but to do so after counting, say an odd number of 50’s ( 50, 70, 90, 110, 130) some have difficulty, so end up counting the 50 after all the 20s. They just automatically rearranged the bills. ( either mentally or physically.)

        • Michael Toso

          Problem is adults do not look at the practical applications of the homework seen. All they notice is it is unfamiliar & takes longer but fail to look for motive. I saw homework that tried to count change without physical money or explanation. The complaint was it was dumbing down & should focus on counting change. Should have looked at the method more closely.

          • FLAConservative

            Common Core is an academic disaster. It is a forced monopoly and partnership between big brother gov’t (i.e. transformational Marxism) and big corporate (a monopoly on lousy curriculum, electronics and forced data mining re “assessments” and it doesn’t teach real Mathematics or classic liberal arts.

            Recently, I asked a 16 year old girl at Chick Fil A if she could give me change for a dollar and she stared at me like I had spoken to her in a foreign language. She then told me she did not know how to do that. I asked her if she had learned Common Core Math and she replied yes.

            The classic charter schools will expose the fake learning which is dumbing down American children. It is criminal what the governors and legislators have done in exchange for Federal dollars.

          • Michael Toso

            My Dad claimed grads could not make change decades ago. A 16 year old is too old to have learned Common Core Arithmetic!! State testing & data mining are from ESSA (NCLB) for all states even without Common Core. Locals choose curriculum including textbooks. 1834 “North American Arithmetic” said “much of math is practiced but little learned”. Trad math trained human calculators, not problem solvers & did not teach real math. You are using fake news!!

      • SCMama

        Using the mathematical problem shown above, by adding 30 to both sides, you don’t actually have to subtract anything extra. When adding the same number to both sides, the “answer” that you will obtain is the same. 530-270=260 560-300=260. Don’t get me wrong–I’m not a huge fan of Common Core, but it does have some benefits.

        • Michael Toso

          Do you object to Common Core standards or the actual implementations?

          • SCMama

            I object to the fact that teachers are now forced to teach the test. There is little-to-no time nowadays to teach critical thinking and reasoning, which are vital also. The initial intent of NCLB was great–the implementation, and how it has impacted education overall, not so much.

          • Michael Toso

            You refer to NCLB that started a decade before Common Core & applies to all standards, that includes non Common Core states as well.

      • Michael Toso

        Number sense like any thinking strategy makes flexible minds & with exercise helps fight Alzheimer’s.

  • theRealDonaldJ

    Because I know common core, I solved the math question in three seconds (one second to read, one second to consider, not even a second to state the answer). Unfortunately, because you are so set in your ways and don’t haven’t been able to comprehend this different way, you’re against it. Once common core is understood and it’s applied, math problems – even complicated math problems, can be solved quickly IN YOUR HEAD, without having to line up the numbers and add/subtract one column at a time. Yes, it’s not as straight forward to learn as lining numbers up in columns, but it is far more efficient and faster once you understand it. But, hey. Who needs to learn math, when you can just ask Siri, Alexa, or Bixby.

    • Dina Anderson

      if a system works why change it.. thats like fixing things not broken?? ?

      • Bill Moody

        because the system wasnt working. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
        The US has been dropping in STEM for decades.

        • Michael Toso

          I found British grads were 2 years ahead of U.S. in 1975. Would take 2 years of community college to keep up. Heard that again recently about Germany. All Greeks learn philosophy, trig & physics, that U.S would whine about.

      • theRealDonaldJ

        we used to count on our fingers – that worked.
        we used to count using an abacus – that worked.
        we used to keep track of numbers using hand written ledgers – that worked.
        we used to use thousand dollar calculators to derive fairly simple calculations – that worked.
        we used to us main frame computers to derive complex calculations – that worked.
        we used to use larger desktop computers to derive complex calculations – that worked.
        we used to use smart phones …..

        I see your point. We should go back to counting with our fingers. That was a system that worked!

      • Michael Toso

        The system did not work even during the space age of 1960s! I found myself trying to explain simple math to mature adults but they often had no preparation to understand & complained simple arithmetic was rocket science! They often wanted to be told how to get results but did not want explanations so they could solve problems on their own.

    • http://keithbarrett.com/ Keith Barrett

      And your view is confirmed by the results demonstrated in this article, and the low scores everywhere else.

      • Bryce Keller

        the demographics and class size probably have a lot more to do with the scores than them ditching common core.

        • D

          That makes no sense. So some kids are just genetically predisposed to getting math questions correct? No. Common core is awful. Classical education is excellent (hence the word “classical”).

          • Michael Toso

            Since Common Core is flexible leaving locals to decide how to teach, I question your distinction with classical education. Greek philosophy enabled people to discuss differences of opinion that is encouraged by Common Core but mostly discouraged in life especially in politics. Trad ed before Common Core focused on memorization of math tables, vocabulary & methods with little thinking involved.

      • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

        The trick about Common Core as reported was not that it does not work, but that difficulty for grade level was inappropriate. i.e. more difficult than many students at a given age and development would readily acquire for use. This then would work to discourage a larger fraction of students from further progress.

        • Michael Toso

          Common Core says grade appropriate for maturity, NOT age!!

          • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

            Think about it. The clear inference is that children can be categorized by ability – as a class – or that this can be done on an individual basis. Even if that were true, does it occur reliably and are the indicated progressions followed ? Things can be a kludge and impractical if it is not possible to implement them — and one could see that working with constant testing wasting effort devoted to learning.

          • Michael Toso

            Teachers always judge if students ready to advance. Students & teachers use quiz or self test to see if lesson learned.

    • jeux999

      This. They’d rather stay ignorant & traditional than have to learn anything new.

      • Michael Toso

        That makes competing in the global economy difficult & why empires like Rome disappeared.

    • soldieroflight

      Bullshit!

    • scragsma

      This may be true for simple arithmetic, but it makes learning higher math much more difficult if you don’t understand the ‘traditional’ methods of approaching it.

      • theRealDonaldJ

        maybe you have a point. You’d have to elaborate and show an example of where common core would fail in an advanced setting.
        I’ve always been quick with numbers. I’m quick to see relationships … maybe that made common core easier for me to understand. Or, maybe it’s the common core mindset that lets me see the relationships.

        • EmailUser123

          “I’ve always been quick with numbers. I’m quick to see relationships …” That’s exactly my point! Everyone uses those Common Core methods without needing to be taught. Common Core is a waste of time in school.

          • theRealDonaldJ

            that’s just it … I’m not sure that “everyone” uses it 0r at least, not to the extent that they could.

          • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

            I had an interesting conversation with an aunt a number of years ago. She could not comprehend the concept of negative numbers. It reminded me that the plan to advance everyone’s curriculum is not based on human ability, but on a conceit that teaching can be improved with different mandated methods.

          • Michael Toso

            Your aunt never heard of debt, loans, borrowing, owing money? Negative numbers like any concept needs practical examples. Common Core promotes different views to match different learners but leaves those decisions to local teachers.

          • Michael Toso

            Not everyone sees number, operations & relationships quickly, we need to help those who are not so quick. We also need to explain so people do not just do them but understand why & can explain to others.

      • Michael Toso

        Since Common Core wants multiple strategies & INCLUDES understanding & traditional methods, I question your reasoning!!!

      • Michael Toso

        Since Common Core includes traditional methods & wants understanding as well I fail to understand your objection.

    • EmailUser123

      It depends on what you call “complicated math”. Every time you look in your grocery cart, and add it up, you’re using the “Common Core” method. People ALREADY know how to do that, INTUITIVELY. We DON’T need to teach that in the schools! What we DO need to teach kids, is how to arrive at precise answers needed for the sciences. Kids need to learn the methods of long division, multiplication, etc. They need to know WHY we’re lining up the numbers, and Why we “carry the one”. They need to understand the terms, “divisor” and “dividend”. We need to stop wasting valuable school time on short-cut methods, that will only be useful for adding up your grocery cart. #DumbingDownOfAmerica

      • theRealDonaldJ

        Thank you for your points.

        Your points on precision and sciences are valid. And, you’re correct, education shouldn’t be only about shortcuts (as in, conducted at a lowest common denominator (aka dumbing down)). But, then again, isn’t that often the purpose of creating disruptive technologies and business practices? (to create shorter or more efficient ways of accomplishing something).

        I’ll concede, there isn’t a one size fits all approach for education and more advanced education needs to be taught/available. On the flip side, many finish primary education without being able to deploy the basic concepts they’ve learned. I think that’s one of the reasons common core was thought to be practical.

        You’re right, many are able to estimate the dollar value of their full shopping cart. But, less so by common core, and more so by rounding numbers, which is a part of common core. However, common core is more than rounding numbers, and offers a means to calculate precise numbers, even when used in multiplication or division (but to your point, there is a limit to the level of complexity that common core can be used. For example, I often calculate derivative values … with common core methodologies I can quickly see if numbers are approximately correct. However, to verify precision accuracy, more advanced methodologies are necessary.)

        That said, based on how much debt is carried per capita, I’m assuming that most can’t (or at least, don’t) sum the value of their groceries. [Yes, I know the reasons for US consumer spending habits and debt loads are more complicated than that, but, it would be interesting to see what part (if any), the failure (or inability) to sum the dollars represented by a full shopping cart, play on consumer spending habits and consumer debt]

        • Michael Toso

          Common Core is more about adding understanding & different strategies to solve the same problems so it is more flexible. You are correct that its main emphasis is for younger learners to help them create a solid base for math.

      • Rebecca Vogelezang

        I mean, when you say students need to know why we carry the one, you’re actually incorrect yourself. The irony is that Common Core DOES teach students why they “carry the one” which is actually not a 1, but a 10 or 100 or 1000 or whatever unit you’ve created by adding smaller units. Every student who has been taught under Common Core by a teacher who understands the standards would be able to explain this to you, and apparently they understand it better than you do.

      • Michael Toso

        You seem to argue FOR Common Core but appear to argue against it!! Modern math argues against short-cuts. You should r
        ead Common Core!
        http://www.corestandards.org/wp-content/uploads/Math_Standards.pdf

  • Dina Anderson

    common core sounds exactly what Obama would inspire.. to do as little as possible with min effect and take credit later for any good from it

  • Ann Marie

    Hoping more schools will follow !!

    • Michael Toso

      Would help first to understand the issue & educators have not sold the issue of what Common Core is & how it works. Unfamiliar homework confuses parents but many adults refuse to understand why it looks different.

      • Tara Paisley

        I have a degree in education. I have seen common core problems on a variety of levels. It IS confusing to children that are 5, 6, and 7 to teach 8+7= 8+2+5 = 15 instead of 8+7 = 15. Do I add the common core way in my head? Absolutely! But not until AFTER I had rote memorized basic facts. I do the same with multiplication as needed. People are amazed that I can come up with answers before they can punch it into a calculator. Not for everything mind you, but many times. It is BECAUSE I have my basic facts down that I can do it, not in spite of.
        Now, having 3 children in school, I can tell you a huge issue that I have seen in the last 10 years. Today we are going to learn how to add fractions, never mind that most of you don’t have your times tables memorized. First we have to have the same denominator, remember how we did the least common multiple yesterday? All of you completed 10 problems correctly, so you mastered that skill. Now we have common denominators we can add the fractions. Here is 10 problems to do in class. Tomorrow we will learn how to subtract fractions…. and literally this is how my oldest daughter’s 4th grade math class went. The next year guess what happened? She didn’t remember learning how to do it. She didn’t practice and review skills enough to RETAIN!

  • Shelly Testa

    This article fails to include the school’s demographic…they are around 90-95% caucasian, maybe 7% ELL and about 2% free/reduced lunch, which makes a huge difference. Sorry, but it is a fact that higher income, English speaking kids will score better on tests. So, especially compared to the rest of the state of Florida, their results are little skewed.

  • asiliveandbreathe

    If you look at that school’s website,their curriculum page goes to the state’s Common Core page. I think this story is a bunch of hooey.

    • D

      No, I live right next to it. My brothers attended that school. Their methods are traditional.

      • http://www.yoyo.com melly

        Well, your word against the Internet. How can we determine if you’re believable or not?

      • Michael Toso

        Local teachers & textbooks decide how to teach. That is true with or without Common Core. Common Core is a list of skills & includes traditional methods. Most people look at homework, not standards & could not tell the difference.

    • http://www.yoyo.com melly

      Just another tool by the State to create divisions. When do we realize we’ve been so distracted by “social media” and “chats” and “comments sections” that we’re too tired to actually change any of this crap?

    • Michael Toso

      Sounds like many adults cannot tell the difference between trad ed & Common Core. Homework & textbooks are local choices & different everywhere.

  • Ragnar Locbrock

    Their brainwashing, I mean education is most often wrong. They get a big ol diploma and stick their noses in the air explaining to “common” people how common sense is wrong and if they were brainwashed, I mean educated like them then they’d be intelligent and understand too…to disagree makes you stupid no matter how much data shows you’re right…you’re not educated.

  • http://carriebethel.com Carrie Bethel

    Yay!!

  • Rufus Cornpone

    The Left can never make things logical and simple.

    • Michael Toso

      The Right can’t recognize more than one view & have difficulty applying logic.

  • Iamnotcrazy

    Great for them! Quit this social BS and teach the basics and civics!

    • Michael Toso

      Trad basic ed did not work. It created generations of math illiterates unable to participate in meaningful discussions. 1834 Arithmetic book said “much of Arithmetic is practiced but little is learned”. Try understand what that means to adults.

  • Roel Escamilla Jr

    This article is clearly written by someone who isn’t a teacher or doesn’t understand common core or the basics of educational systems.

    Common core isn’t a set of teaching practices or a set of curriculum materials. It gives the impression that schools aren’t responsible for developing teachers and districts aren’t responsible for selecting curriculum materials.

    In fact this article is so poorly written as to be generally a disgrace to the English language.

    • Christine Egitto

      Precisely

    • LJ

      Let these kids who have to learn the common core way take a timed speed math test when getting into college. They will be slaughtered and will want their comfort zone to go hide in until someone says they are ok and can go to college anyway even if they do not know how to do math logically…..You can see it at times at cash registers, kids under this garbage teaching technique take forever to make change..

      • janeite1900

        Not at all. The Common Core isn’t a way of teaching at all. The other ways of solving math are the ways lots of people do math in their heads already.

      • Oddfool

        Common Core is the set of standards. (Students at this grade level must be able to perform these skills.) The actual curriculum comes from the teacher / district/ evil educational supply companies.

        I have seen some students perform in academic decathlons that blow way past me in solving problems, while I am still trying to figure the problem out in my head along with them.

        • Michael Toso

          Thank you!!

      • Michael Toso

        Most strange methods you see are not intended to be practical!! Common Core DOES teach the traditional methods & math tables so the speed test would be at least the same but would give advantages with such things as mental math methods to aid speed. Please do careful research before judging.

  • Kewntavious_Jayboon

    That, and common core being targeted more towards the simian brain and not humans . . .

    • Michael Toso

      How would you explain Asians benefiting from its approach?
      https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html

      • Kewntavious_Jayboon

        Libtard propaganda? Asians historically do well under just about any system . . .

        • Michael Toso

          The propaganda is about misinterpreting data. Education debates are often about observations, not understanding causes. Most Anti Common Core complaints are about concerns not controlled by standards. People look at homework, not standards.

  • VPF

    Read, Rotten to the (Common) Core, by Joseph P Farrell. An eye-opener…

    • janeite1900

      Or, just read the actual standards to determine if they are good. I know of very few people who attempted to do that before trashing them.

      • Michael Toso

        I have found few if any Anti Common Core people who are even willing to read them. They prefer to repeat clueless opinions instead of facts.

    • Michael Toso

      I recommend reading Common Core instead of opinions BEFORE judging.
      Seems to confuse a set of standards with support creating resources like textbooks & testing. Common Core does not require testing, new textbooks, data collection & does not push any agenda. People who read the actual standards understand.
      http://www.corestandards.org/assets/CCSSI_ELA%20Standards.pdf
      http://www.corestandards.org/wp-content/uploads/Math_Standards.pdf

  • Stacy Fitzgerald-Redd

    It’s ironic that adults are articulating the view that Common Core was federal government initiative when it wasn’t. Common Core was a state initiative, that was not part of No Child Left Behind or any other federal initiative. That said, I wholeheartedly agree that methods used to teach kids under Common Core were confusing and unnecessarily complicated. But, it’s important to separate fact from fiction. http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/myths-vs-facts/

    • Delila Bertelsen

      NCLB is about the assessments and performance of students and teachers. CC is about how to achieve the desired outcome. It’s all stupid. I thought when NCLB started it would be so great to have standards and benchmarks the same across the country so that if a child moved to a different state they would not be behind or have skipped a segment of importance. That isn’t the way is works. It’s just a bunch of bureaucrats trying to justify a bad idea. I left teaching in a public school because I had to pay more attention to the low kids by assessing every week and creating lessons for them or sending them to a resource teacher and then having a weekly meeting with that teacher. The other students deserved to grow too, but they were ignored more or less because they already could meet the standards. That, of course got partially covered by a Talented and Gifted program, but that can’t address enough children. In addition, I had become a behavior manager, because the kids who find the work too easy act out. The mediocre students glide through and school is boring for them. Give the schools back to the teachers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Michael Toso

        NCLB was about each state deciding the content & quality of its OWN education. That meant each state was different!! Standards define a set of shared knowledge skills but teachers & textbooks decide HOW to teach them. You seem to confuse these definitions.
        When most states failed at creating quality standards RTTT decided for states to cooperate & compete. Common Core was one of several sets of standards that were expected. People confuse Common Core with homework & local classroom choices.

  • rockman2257

    There’s an WISE,old adage….K-I-S = Keep it simple.
    37 minus 18 does not have to be a long drawn out debacle that no one can figure out!!!

    • Sleeveheart

      You’re being polite. I always heard it was KISS (adding ‘stupid’ to the end). 🙂

    • Michael Toso

      Explanations do require making solutions appear more complex just like counting sheep on Sesame St. Many methods are meant to help explain concepts & are not intended to be practical. Bear that in mind BEFORE judging!!
      Your prefer training human calculators instead of problem solvers? The global economy does not slow down so we need to improve to keep up & compete.

  • Mister M

    Here are the kindergarten reading standards in Common Core. It seems the author of this piece hasn’t read them. It’s possible Florida public schools are doing a poor job. How well funded are they? How much standardized testing is imposed on them?

    http://www.corestandards.org/ELA-Literacy/RF/K/

    • Michael Toso

      Careful! You are going deeper than most adults care to understand.

  • Bruce Laubon

    As most public school teachers will tell you, teaching to the common core group is a somewhat waste of time and resources. The so called “common core” has been around before President Obama came into office, it just went by different names before being called,”common core”. As a retired public school teacher, ‘ve always said that teaching the basics to elementary school children was the best thing for them. “Common Core” can be taught in middle and high school, where it would do the most good.

  • Bruce Laubon

    As most public school teachers will tell you, teaching to the common core group is a somewhat waste of time and resources. The so called “common core” has been around before President Obama came into office, it just went by different names, had different goals, before being called,”common core”. As a retired public school teacher, I’ve always said that teaching the basics to elementary school children was the best thing for them. “Common Core” can be taught in middle and high school, where it would do the most good.

  • janeite1900

    This appears to be written by someone who has never read the actual Common Core State Standards. It shows absolutely no understanding of the actual standards. They do not promote sight words over phonics. They do not “dumb down’ anything.

  • Gnarfel D. Garthok

    The Teacher’s unions really want a two tiered system: an intellectual elite and poorly educated masses. These are the two kinds of people they can influence to vote for leftwing democrats and their policies. in short, it benefits the democratic party to have a lot of uneducated, MIS-educated people.

    • http://www.yoyo.com melly

      “The Unions” have nothing to do with this rot. “The Unions” don’t want it!

    • Michael Toso

      How is that relevant to Common Core, a set of standards.

  • GinnyLee

    Hurrah for the 3 Rs! Back to learning! Maybe, we’ll get a generation of students who can read when they graduate!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9572a06e1b68991eb86a9bb0e996f0701fcd9bd44de8582e93792fea0991e62f.jpg

  • Carol Soos

    I’ve known this for years. What took so long? Maybe cause Obama is gone. Now maybe we can get back to what works!!! Maybe this will be the beginning of teaching our children and preparing them for a better life and social skills they all desperately need.
    I pray this is a new beginning of a beautiful future especially for our children.

    • Michael Toso

      Common Core says teachers know what works in the classroom & will decide how to teach.

  • Marilyn Stern

    Looks like they require uniform dress. Keeps everyone equal. A very, very big plus. I have always advocated a neat, uniform dress code from first through 12th grade. This is actually more important for grades 7 through 12.

  • Michelle Sarabia

    Mixing educational metaphors… “We’re not doing common core…we’re doing common core-ish stuff.” I opened this hoping to see a description of teacher autonomy. Instead, it is talking as if phonics isn’t in common core (it is – see RF 3 and L 2), using analytical language isn’t in common core (it is – see the anchor standards for all grade levels), etc. I agree that common core has been a tool used by corporations to force teachers into following pre-packaged, scripted gloop with limited flexibility…. because states and districts insist that teachers are there to implement the curriculum rather than the curriculum being there as one of many tools at hand for teachers. I also see huge gaps in common core’s coverage of student skills, and some compartmentalization of things that belong together. However, that doesn’t mean that I think the take that this article has… that dumping pre-packaged CCSS materials is the sole reason for this charter’s success. I would rather suggest a breakdown of numbers for special needs, second-language learners, students from poverty, etc. with aligned comparisons to similar populations…. plus a better look at what teachers are actually doing vs. administrative micro-management of instruction, etc.

  • Justanaveragejoeinsc

    Any time the government gets involved in the people’s business, government screws it up. Time to do away with the Department of Education and Federal grants. Education is a state and local initiative. We do not need ‘experts’ at the Federal level involved. They are too stupid to be dealing with this.

  • Ezra Tank

    My son is entering 5th grade. As 4th grade wound down he was still struggling with his times tables and basic math. When I asked his teacher why they didn’t have the kids memorize their times tables from 1 through 12 he said that’s not the way the do it anymore. His teacher said they gloss over multiplication then move onto something else and would circle back to it.

    What?

    That’s like saying we’ll build half the foundation of the basement, then move onto building the upper floors and circle back around to finishing the foundation. I have a Masters Degree in Computer Science. You CANNOT DO THIS! Kids need to learn basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division before you move onto anything else. Once I found out how they were “teaching” my son I took it into my own hands to make him learn math.

    His 4th grade class sat at “group” tables and learned in groups. When kids interrupted they weren’t sent to the principle they were allowed to stay in class and “play” until they calmed down. WTF!

    We need to go back to what worked. In the 1970-80’s when I went to school we sat in rows of single desks. The teacher taught and if kids acted up they were removed from class. You were issued text books that were shared year after year. Basic math and English has NOT changed regardless of modern technology. Teach the basics and when the kids hit middle school then introduce technology. Stop focusing on State mandated test scores and start holding parents accountable for their children’s learning!

    • Michael Toso

      Common Core says “By the end of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.” You are confusing Common Core standards & local classroom choices made by teachers & textbooks. Being from 1960s I found trad ed created generations of math illiterates unable to solve a problem unless it was in a standard form. 1834 “North American Arithmetic” says “much of math was practiced but little was learned”.

  • BeetleBean

    American schools have always had decent math scores in lower grades, but we are failing at higher level maths, which is what the concepts in common core are trying to correct. Math based on memorization of facts and algorithms instead of true understanding will not work with higher level concepts. What seems like an overly complicated method is actually teaching a thought process that will be applied to much more complicated concepts later on.

  • Kevin Byrnes

    A friendly suggestion to all: if you haven’t done it yet, go to the website for Common Core and read the actual CC standards. You’ll see that it doesn’t supply the methods–teachers need to do that. The weird problems that are constantly brought forward as examples are “after market” concoctions. If teachers don’t like them, don’t use them!

    • Michael Toso

      Hard to explain to people who focus on homework, not standards. They only believe Common Core is in charge & forget how it works in a local control education system.

  • Elise

    I actually taught kindergarten in a Common Core school. The statement in which the author claims that phonics is not part of the Common Core instruction should refer to RF.K.1, RF.K.2, and RF.K.3. I am not sure why this school in Florida so only focused on whole word reading, but they were not following the Common Core nor applying developmentally appropriate practices into teaching early literacy.

    • Michael Toso

      Seems Florida like Tennessee has difficulty understanding standards. They blame Common Core for local choices by teachers & textbooks.

      • FLAConservative

        Choices?

        Monopoly on education curriculum via Pearson Publishing and their subsidiaries; anyone knows that who looks closely at Common Core and the awful substandard curriculum they offer. Pearson Publishing is from the U.K. own 80 percent of America’s K-12 curriculum.

        • Michael Toso

          The point is standards like Common Core depend on quality teachers training & support like textbooks. Most complaints are not about standards. You made a good claim about Pearson and agree with Common Core creators about poor quality curriculum. That has been true with or without Common Core. The 1983 “A Nation At Risk” found problems with ed & Feds made states take charge of improving content by creating standards.
          The problem is poor support but people look at classwork, not standards & can’t tell the difference.

  • Switchthefield

    Propoganda for charter schools, swallowed hook, line, and sinker by its target audience. Nice work.

    • gigene

      It’s not propaganda! It’s the TRUTH. How are you going to handle that Snowflake?

      • Michael Toso

        U.S. education is STILL local & depends on quality teachers, training & support. How will YOU handle that?

  • theoneandonly

    Common Core Sucks the teachers hate it the Koreans in my community literally laugh at the math their children are doing in school and send them to specialized math outside the school… that sucks since the average home tax here is 18,000 USD annually. DUMP IT NOW.

  • gigene

    I went to a Catholic parochial school—— You learned or you died!

  • Rebecca Vogelezang

    So I’m actually a teacher in Detroit and I am a huge advocate of Common Core, particularly in math because it gives students a much deeper and true understanding of what they are actually doing when they complete a problem.
    That last paragraph, which mentions the teacher marking the student wrong, is where things get dicey.
    In my opinion, the beauty of CC is that it allows students the freedom to use a strategy that works for them. The strategy that teacher wanted her student to use is called compensation and it does work for some students because they’re now subtracting from a “friendly” number (the term has nothing to do with emotion, it’s just kid-friendly language), meaning a multiple of 10 or 100. This allows them to skip-count backwards or perform much simpler subtraction if they think in terms of units (5 hundreds 6 tens – 3 hundreds = 2 hundreds 6 tens)
    However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with solving a different way. In fact, most of my students wouldn’t choose this strategy and I’d be fine with it because CC is about MULTIPLE strategies being used.
    IF CC is taught correctly, it works wonders in reaching students at multiple levels and giving everyone the opportunity to be successful. It can seem more confusing if you haven’t explicitly been taught what the standards mean or why they are taught that way, but I can promise you, from a classroom perspective where my students in Detroit outperform the entire state of Michigan in math, it DOES work. Not only can students DO math, but they can EXPLAIN it.

    • Michael Toso

      People can’t seem to understand the success of education reform with any standards in the U.S. depends on quality teachers & support. Dr. Pesta seems to think that grading a lesson should not depend on that lesson. That is against any policy I know.

  • Lee

    The demographics at this charter school does not math the demographics of Florida or the majority of our schools. This school is 78%white. Only 1% of the kids are black and 1% are Asian, Only 17% of kids attending the school are living in poverty. The school does not list their English Learning population or if they have any children with learning disabilities.

    The author of this article wrote with complete bias about a charter school that has a teacher to student ration of 1:15. I looked on schoodigger,com and Mason Academy is ranked 99 not number 1 in Florida. I am wondering where the author found his biased facts. Seems like more alternative facts from someone who does not understand that common core is a set of standards not a teaching method. It was written with teachers.

  • Lauren

    Makes a strong argument for ditching common-core, but we also need to know this school’s previous scores, how long has this charter school been going, etc., to see the whole picture.

    • Michael Toso

      Can’t make a strong argument without knowledge of the subject & this author’s focus does not include understanding how Common Core works.

  • WhatsNext

    Seems that the Synonym for ”Common Core’ would be Common Ignorance”. Whether it be Bush or Obama, it amounts to the push for world government and to make everyone commonly ignorant to what is really happening.

  • CraxyD

    FTA: “One of its defining characteristics is the way it “dumbs down” many concepts and has students take too many steps to reach conclusions that are obvious to those of us who were schooled the traditional way.”

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

    • Michael Toso

      I learned the traditional way & is was Broken!! Trad ed trained human calculators who were math illiterates unable to solve real problems unless in standard form. Solving word problems caused headaches.

  • Thourin

    Tribalism is alive and well, let’s just divide up and kill each other. Dialogue with idiots is such a waste!

  • Tilmon Hocutt

    I would say the Florida school results pretty much speak for themselves. They ditched common core and their results were much better. Same thing happened in my generation. They started “New Math” ie they tried to teach algebra rules before children learned to add, subtract, multiple and divide. The new books and methods were started in California. The rest of the nation was changing all their elementary school math texts to copy. Then California found out it didn’t work worth a damn. So everyone got to change their books and methods back again. You would think educators would figure out new stuff should be tested in the field to see if it REALLY worked but noooooooo can’t do that.

  • Hillary

    The common core does not recommend not teaching phonics in kindergarten. It does include working on high frequency words as a small part but heavily focuses on phonics and phonemic awareness in kindergarten. Standard for phonics and word recognition: Know and apply grade–level phonics and word analysis skills in decoding words. There is no mention of high frequency words in the literacy foundation skills for kindergarten.

    • Michael Toso

      Please do not confuse people with facts!! They focus on fake news & opinions instead. I applaud your trying though!!

  • Fingal Carson

    It has been said a million times that even public schools can be decent on a local level without the feds and states messing it up.

    Wealthy areas have public schools that are bad, but actually use some brain cells and create some pathways. Working/Middle Class areas have schools that create total idiots and inner-cities have zoos that create animals.

    • Michael Toso

      1983 “A Nation At Risk” found inconsistent quality of content & grading. I found LOCALS can mess up best intentions. “A” in one state could be a “C” in another. A global effort to make results consistent so parents can make meaningful choices should be a priority.

  • John H.

    Wasn’t Bill Gates really pushing Common Core too? Or is that just an urban legend?

    • Michael Toso

      Gates was pushing quality reform. Common Core was just convenient.

  • Fenshaw

    What is the per-child spending of this Charter School? What is the teacher to student ratio? How do these measures compare to the rest of Florida? What is the median income of the students’ families, and how does it compare to the median income of all Florida students?

  • Jack

    NO. Add 30 to 270. Subtract 300, then subtract the 30 you added.

  • Take_me_back_to_the_60s

    You people really are just so pathetic lol. The deplorables are such a sad lot. May Jesus show them pity.

  • Denysbury

    I’ve read the many comments tying President Obama to an allegedly failed educational policy. The idea that this man had the time to micromanage school systems is nonsense, but let the haters hate. What many of us feel is that an extremely articulate, brilliant man in the White House set an example of thinking things through, weighing his words before he spoke and remaining calm and fair-minded. And that’s what millions of adults and children growing up saw of this man and his wife, Michelle. That’s where we get many of our lessons on what it means to be educated, adult, a man of courage and conviction, and a leader.

  • Michael Toso

    This article ignores the actual Common Core standards. Grade level phonics in Common Core starts in kindergarten!!! Search for “phonics”.
    http://www.corestandards.org/assets/CCSSI_ELA%20Standards.pdf

  • Rainlion

    “Obama’s common core”?

    2009 the state school chiefs and governors that comprise CCSSO and the NGA Center coordinated a state-led effort to develop the Common Core State Standards

  • Susan LetsBbq

    We will get Common Core taken OUT of American Schools!!!

    • Michael Toso

      NON Common Core states make minor changes & rename. Common Core succeeded & Smart people appreciate the goals.

  • Michael Toso

    Mason Classical Academy English & math use resources aligned to the Common Core. Common Core is standards or skills needed & leaves teachers to use what teaching methods they feel works. The testing & data are from ESSA, for all states even without Common Core.
    Can’t believe the misinformation in this article.

  • Kyle Vander Heiden

    Selection effect?

  • Gene McWhorter

    I have been in lines at McDonald’s when they were having trouble with their cash registers and had to stand their while the figured out my change. Can you imagine how long it would have taken if they were using Common Core?

  • Elaine Baumgardner Magud

    Publishers have always been the deciding factor for curriculum In California. Whoever does the best presentation gets the contract. Education lobbyists are in competition to get the education dollars for their company. Research is not questioned and the people who make up the curriculum may have never been inside an elementary classroom. Shameful waste of our dollar!

    • Michael Toso

      That was the reason for Feds charging states & locals to define content required. That was a first attempt to control textbook content.

  • Kaci Rae Romine

    Wish Texas would get did of common core math.

    • Michael Toso

      Math is math. Look at what skills are taught & try to teach math without them. Most concerns are local method choices.

  • Roger Bellas

    Common core is one reason that the education system in the US is ranked so low. It is also a reason the people can’t get jobs, especially minorities, as US edu caters to the lowest common denominator. People came to the US because we were the best and offer true sucess. But, those with intelligence are greatly disappointed at what they find in our government schools.

    • Michael Toso

      The Mason Classical Academy uses CKLA & Singapore math curriculum that are also used with Common Core. Check with EngageNY! That does seem to correct many complaints caused by local choices that are blamed on Common Core.
      Amazing how great curriculum can succeed with great teachers & training.

  • Michael Toso

    This is FAKE NEWS!! This school DOES use of Common Core that DOES include phonics in kindergarten. The testing is ESSA, NOT Common Core. The grading of the 530-270 problem marking it as wrong is local grading policy & not part of Common Core! Taking too many steps is traditional for methods that help understand, like counting sheep by Sesame St. Common Core does encourage play, interaction with others & experimentation to make knowledge like math more real.

  • Michael Toso

    FAKE NEWS!! This article is about curriculum (resources) & ESSA testing, NOT Common Core. I would be embarrassed writing an article with so much misinformation. Must not have even read the Common Core standards & compared with classrooms!!
    http://www.corestandards.org/assets/CCSSI_ELA%20Standards.pdf
    http://www.corestandards.org/wp-content/uploads/Math_Standards.pdf

  • Sumner Kagan

    it’s the typical liberal mindset. If you want equality, then you lower the best down to the level of the worst so the worst don’t feel bad and it’s easier to control stupid people than deal with people smarter than them.

    • Michael Toso

      The idea is to RAISE the level for everyone but don’t limit anyone. Common Core leaves that to LOCAL policy. Amazing people blame Common Core for what it does not & should not control!!

  • Mel

    CommonCore was created by a group of Leftists, funded by Bill Gates, and fast-tracked. That way they did not have to have it take years going through the system with funding. Most states adopted it to get their share of the 400 billion dollar stimulus fund set aside for education, per Obama’s Race to the Top Initiative. In addition, Race To The Stop stipulated that any state that took the blackmail money, had to agree to fund CommonCore themselves once the stimulus ran out. Clever.

    CommonCore is to education like Obamacare to Healthcare. Socialized Education because once the Fed had most all states agreeing to one program, the program then incorporates more and more SJW stuff.

    This way …. getting to our children early on, would complete the indoctrination of the leftist agenda.

    Kill commie CommonCore.

    • Michael Toso

      You repeat opinions, where are your facts?

  • C B

    Why is government involved in education?

    • Michael Toso

      1983 study “A Nation At Risk” found local control caused inconsistent education that varied by content, quality & results by state & community, even within the same school. Feds charged states & locals to take charge of defining content & proving consistent measure of results.

      • C B

        I wasn’t genuinely asking, as I know how it occurred. It was a rhetorical statement about the inability for government to bring innovation and proper education to students. Wow, now they can all be equally as shitty. Socialistic ideology wins again.

        • Michael Toso

          Locals keep blaming Feds for their own failure. Feds make an easily accepted scapegoat for people who cannot do proper research & who accept any view supporting their own.

  • Reggie Burke

    Ditch all of the illegals and the country could probably soar to number one as well.

  • Wanda Schutt Andrako

    I heard some friends talking and they had investigated their kids education and checked colleges and they would not be admitted to many colleges with an education of Common Core.

    • Michael Toso

      Which state & what would be required for those colleges?

  • Tripin S

    You mean when we stop brainwashing children and teach them to think creatively they get better scores on State tests?

    Go figure.

  • DawnfromO

    Amen
    Amen
    Amen

  • sportymom5

    Here is my response to “Michael.” Common Core standards are NOT more “rigorous” as its proponents claim.
    Since you (Michael) want to focus ONLY on math and English/Language
    Arts, let’s go there. Sandra Stotsky, the ONLY ELA expert and a member
    of the Massachusetts state board of education, hired to validate CC ELA
    standards, refused to sign off on the standards because they were
    inferior to the previous standards in many states and “cannot prepare
    students for authentic college course work.” Likewise, math professor
    James Milgram, the ONLY mathematician on the CC validation committee,
    refused to sign off on the math standards saying they would put students
    two years behind other countries by the time they reach 8th grade and
    the “get even worse in high school.” He has also publicly stated that
    only 5% of AP students intending to enter STEM professions, ever
    graduate with a STEM degree. Even Jason Zimba, one of three creators of
    Common Core math, admits that the term “college ready” is a “minimal
    definition of college readiness” and that it is “not only NOT for STEM
    but NOT for ‘selective’ colleges.” These statements are available on
    video and in print.
    http://www.educationviews.org/common-core-college-career-standards-big-fraud/.
    For the record, I haven’t read every single comment in this thread, but
    from my observation, Michael, you are the only one using the term
    “racism.” Anti-American, anti-Christian and pro-islam bias have been
    cited hundreds of times by concerned parents nationwide in Pearson
    (Common Core) textbooks, but their voices are being drowned out by the
    educrats, many of whom who treat parents with contempt. One of my own
    local school board members confirmed very recently that our public
    school teachers are required to teach the five pillars of islam. Why
    then, are we not teaching them the Protestant apostles creed, the
    catechism, or the tenets of the Jewish faith? Bill Gates, who dumped
    billions of his own money into the development of Common Core, signed an
    agreement with UNESCO in 2004 to train teachers worldwide to teach
    Common Core. States like Florida and most other states – many with GOP
    governors have changed 1 to 3% of the curriculum and simply renamed it –
    like “Florida Standards” Our college entrance exams are Common Core
    aligned. The lucrative business of Common Core “edcuation”
    (indoctrination) pays big dividends to the (partially) Saudi shareholder
    owned multi-billion dollar Pearson conglomerate, which has bought out
    most of the major publishing companies worldwide (like Houghton-Mifflin
    and many others), testing corporations and data tracking organizations.
    It’s proponents and supportive politicians have everything to gain and
    nothing to lose by supporting Common Core. it will take an act of God to
    remove the curse of Common Core and to restore true local control of
    education.

  • Moritmar

    Each of us use methods for easier calculations. What amused me the other day was a trick math question. It wasn`t difficult with a few minutes observation. One just had to observe the trend top to bottom with 4 level of math, the last being left blank for the answer. As simple as it was for me, all others took upon difficult calculations with none right. I am 65 yrs old. Use your head.

    • Michael Toso

      Trad math focused more on rote learning than stimulating minds.

  • Terri Parish

    I have one child who excelled with phonic as well as 80 percent of the human population. I have another child who could not understand phonics if his life depended on it, for after much testing, it was discovered that he has a visual processing problem. He learned “sight ” words. Why cant both programs be offered?

    • Michael Toso

      Common Core says use what works!!

  • Michael Toso

    Seems this author has no clue what Common Core is.

  • William Wooten

    Freaking figures, now when your kids get home from school you have to unteach them everything they just learned.

    • Michael Toso

      The Mason Classical Academy CKLA & Singapore math curriculum are used with Common Core. Check with EngageNY! That does correct many complaints caused by local curriculum choices that are blamed on Common Core.

  • Michael Toso

    Mason Classical Academy curriculum of Core Knowledge Language Arts & Singapore math are used with Common Core. CKLA is included in EngageNY & Singapore math is used by many CC schools. Amazing people try to blame Common Core for local curriculum choices then celebrate when they think they succeeded without Common Core

  • Michael Toso

    Mason Classic Academy uses CKLA (Core Knowledge Language Arts) & Singapore Math. Amazing what results can be accomplished with great teachers, training & great curriculum! Both CKLA & Singapore math are used with Common Core.
    https://3o83ip44005z3mk17t31679f-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/FAQs_CKLA_K5.pdf
    http://www.achieve.org/files/CCSSandSingapore.pdf

  • Michael Toso

    I see complaints about local control issues. The state testing is still here. The same curriculum is used by Common Core schools.The grading etc is local policy. WHERE are any complaints about Common Core here?

  • H Shepard

    American exceptionalism in education got us to the Moon with less computing power than in our phones. Now we have Common Core and are eliminating the achievement gap by screwing everyone. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e82757a551129cfe71a18ef1327c87862e3880e6ea4bceeee1febf7df3e4fdd.jpg