Pope Francis: ‘Relationships With Jesus Are Dangerous And Harmful’

Pope Francis told a crowd of 33,000 in Rome that "a personal relationship with Jesus Christ" must be avoided at all costs.

Pope Francis has been caught on camera attempting to steer his flock away from Jesus Christ, warning that “having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and very harmful“. 

Breaking with centuries of Christian tradition, Pope Francis told a crowd of 33,000 Catholics in Rome that “a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ” must be avoided at all costs, raising fears he is an illegitimate pope with a sinister agenda.

The speech, which took place on June 25, is merely the latest eyebrow-raising announcement by the liberal Pope.

Last week Pope Francis told the Italian newspaper La Repubblica that the United States of America has “a distorted vision of the world” and Americans must be ruled by a world government, as soon as possible, “for their own good.”

The week before he also called for “a one world government” and “political authority”, arguing that the creation of the one world government is needed to combat major issues such as “climate change.”

Speaking with Ecuador’s El Universo newspaper, the Pope said that the United Nations doesnt have enough power and must be granted full governmental control “for the good of humanity.

The globalization movement cannot be underestimated. It is the process of transitioning the world into a global government and eroding the rights of the individual. World religious leaders, led by the increasingly anti-Christian Pope Francis, are playing their part in this great deception.

David Rockefeller famously said that a “global crisis” would have to occur before the people of the world would be willing to accept a New World Order. Sure enough, when the world economy suffered a dramatic crash in 2008, world leaders again proclaimed the need for a New World Order with global financial control.

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As demonstrated by Pope Francis, climate change and the global warming hoax is now the global elite’s preferred method of scaremongering, as they attempt to shepherd humanity closer to unified totalitarian rule.

Pope Francis is determined to steer his flock away from Jesus. The pontiff who held Islamic prayers in the Vatican, and later warned his followers not to enter into a personal relationship with Jesus, is an imposter with a sinister agenda.

The jesuit Pope is a key player in the plan to usher in a New World Order, determined to mislead his flock while catering to the global cabal.

Baxter Dmitry

Baxter Dmitry

Baxter Dmitry is a writer at Your News Wire. He covers politics, business and entertainment. Speaking truth to power since he learned to talk, Baxter has travelled in over 80 countries and won arguments in every single one. Live without fear.
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  • d d

    Proves he’s a fake as are all religions!

    • oso grande

      yeah that proves all religions are fake…. what a stupid thing to say!

    • d d ddddddickhead

      d d stands for..doubledickhead………. you dickhead d d …lol…….

  • mary

    Come on all you good catholics just how much are you going to put up with .This FAKE POPE must be removed from the Vatican before he does any more harm to the good people of the world

    • Desil

      If the Pope goes against the teachings of Christ, publicly, he is automatically removed. Pope Benedict is still the Pope.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Benedict is an asshole who protected pedophiles. He is also a vicar of satan.

    • Rebecca Glesener Davis

      I’d rather remove the FAKE PRESIDENT.

      • Juan Pablo

        OBAMA-The-Fake….. has already been removed.

      • Faye Vance

        Just tell me Rebecca, what do you hope to gain by having a one world government? What is it that you want for the world? The President is the most REAL president we’ve had in a long time. When people like you finally destroy America, You will have NOTHING left, but a handful of people running the world. Do you honestly understand the replications of that?

        • CORMAC___NJ

          I think you’re giving Rebecca WAY too much credit for analysis and clear-minded thinking. All she knows is that the people she thinks are cool hate Trump, so she hates Trump. Nothing more/

        • Jayedwin98020

          Excuse me if I’m wrong, but don’t you mean “ramifications”, not replications ?

          • Rufas2000

            Nah replications. The One World Government is going to create a model state then all the other members will be “replications” of the model state. The writer is saying that the person they are responding to doesn’t understand that once America is removed as the one obstacle to the One World Government all countries will be copies or replications of the model state.

            This may also lead to America being forced to pay reparations to other countries (in actuality puppet states to the One World Government) due to America’s past offenses (some real, most imagined).

      • CORMAC___NJ

        What you mean is that you can’t handle the fact that Trump is the REAL president so you’ll just remain in your own fantasy world.

      • Terry Gibson

        It is better to be thought ignorant and remain silent than to speake and remove all doubt.

  • Ron Wheeler

    Wow, I am crushed – is this not fake news? This can not be happening – OMG!

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    • Rebecca Glesener Davis

      Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Wow.

    • Katherine McChesney

      “Bible believers’ is satanic website. But, the vatican is satans earthly home.

  • Ron Wheeler

    Again, fake news headlines by your truely, YourNewsWire. Show me that – “Pope Francis has been caught on camera attempting to steer his flock away from Jesus Christ, warning that “having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and very harmful“”. Where is the source of this particular news and supposedly, the video.

    • Phillip John

      How is this fake news? the words came out of the pope’s mouth

      • Desil

        Really? I haven’t seen it. Or heard it.

      • Ron Wheeler

        Oh really, show me where this is recorded.

        • yournewswire

          Did you watch the video embedded in the article of the Pope saying this himself Ron? I’m not sure how this can be ‘fake news’ unless you are suggesting that the video was faked?

          • Rufas2000

            Context, I’m not going to defend Pope Francis as I have “concerns” to say the least but here he is simply warning against what old timey preachers have warned about for centuries: that you cannot go it alone in your walk with Christ. You need the church. Now since he’s referring to the Catholic church we know that’s problematic because of certain doctrines they have (priests and popes and the church being mediators etc.) but all that should have been mentioned and explained instead of out of context clickbait. Besides popes have said this all the time.

            There is plenty that could be said about Pope Francis. This site chose to go for the eye popping but misleading and out of context headline over something more substantial. Making this worse than useless in a very real way as people who do not share this agenda will see it, dismiss it for the rubbish it is then use it to deny any of the actually real dangers you point out about him.

          • Thomas McGee

            I think it is possible he is meaning the ‘heathens’ such as us Lutherans that do not go through intermediaries such as priests and Saints to talk to God. We just installed a direct line about 500 years ago…pissed them off back then too

          • GCG8688

            GOOD POINT! FOLLOW ME! You don’t need a personnel relationship with Christ I’ll take care of that for you.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            Jesus Say “Behold I stand on the door and kn ock if anyone hears my voice I will come to him and dine with him and he with Me. Revelation 3:20
            Paul tells us Do you not know that your bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit? 1Corinthians 3:16-19

          • GCG8688

            Thank you for speaking the Truth! The word of GOD!

          • Tasu Ura

            He means doing this without being in the unity of His Church, His referring to Jesus. Read John 17, 21

          • Candice Hiler

            In my Bible, Jesus said, ‘No man cometh to the Father but by me’, therefore precluding the necessity for any intercessories.

          • PackCat

            It’s hard to turn over the bucks and submit your children to Pedophile Priests, if you are not going to Catholic church. I determined a long time ago, that the Catholics are anti-Christ. Just look at all their doctrine, putting Mary above Christ.

          • Connor McDonald

            The Catholic religion is a covert hand me down of the ancient Babylonian Mystery Religion and the worship of the Mother Goddess Cybele whose cult was brought to Rome in 204 B.C. and whose shrine was eventually erected on VATICAN HILL on the exact spot where St. Peter’s Basilica stands today….. To hijack Christianity the RCC simply changed Cybele’s name to MARY…. The Mary of the Bible is not the Mary of Rome, and the Jesus Christ of the Bible is not the little “mommas boy” Jesus of Rome. Therefore Catholic’s are not Christians in that they place their aith in a COUNTERFEIT CHRIST.

          • Ted


          • https://m.youtube.com/user/HearingTheTruthRadio Hearing the Truth

            AMEN TO THAT! Part of the system of the Dragon! Chaldean Sun worship and paganism mixed into Christianity becomes a big tall frothy glass of lethal spiritual poison that might taste like koolaid but will have you flopping on the floor and foaming from the mouth. Sadly, almost everyone will drink it and then happily ask for seconds, before it’s too late.

          • Tom Cook

            The bible specifically says that we need to have a personal relationship with Christ. I take the bibles words more seriously than some muslim supporting anti christian pope.

          • Ignoul Andre

            why u need the/a church??? Better to keep ur religion or believes inside ur home and pray there to the one who is ur god. The church was and is a worldly institution, concentrating on power and money, brainwashing and scaring people with devils and hell if those people do not act as the church tells them to do. For being a good peaceful, helping and caring human to others u don’t need a church, not even a religion. Ur attitude, respect to ur surroundings and heart makes a good human of u. Pope Francis is a traitor to the Christians. He wants to force everyone to love and accept the muslims and their cruel behaviour of killing, beheading. He is muslim lover and part of the New World Order, that is clear in his statements about the USA and the need of having one world government.

          • RoggerDogger

            3 or 4 centuries ago it was the so called Christians who were beheading people. Even a few hundred years ago in England they did horrible things to people that they killed. Draw and quarter means tie them to several horses and be ripped apart. I could go on with even more gory details. Yes some majority Muslim countries are still way behind in being on par with the so called civilized world, but then on the other hand we just blow people apart into a million pieces so it’s not like we are so squeaky clean when it comes to killing, In fact we have honed it to a new level. It just that we don’t have to see it so it seems cleaner and more civilized. Like eating a cheeseburger, we don’t kill the cow so it’s just a slab of protein on a bun, no harm done. That’s the psychology of it. But the fact is that many of the Muslim countries were tribal in nature and they had all these backwards barbaric habits long before Mohammed came along. In fact Mohammed tried to get them to be more peaceful to each other. It didn’t work out the way he wanted, and it didn’t work out so well for Jesus during his time on the planet either. Even the Buddha had people in his own followers that wanted to kill him. Good and evil will always exist as long as we are here in the physical form because some people want more than they need and need to try to control others. You need to be smart enough not to let them if you can avoid it.

          • Dee

            Roger, you are confusing Christians with the RCC. True Christians didn’t murder anyone. Again it was the RCC.
            They will also have a final inquisition in which many more will be killed, and in fact are being killed now.

          • Aaron Dee Hancock

            Muzzies hacked the video’s feed and put their own words in.

          • Tasu Ura

            Interesting, where is the source for this statement?

          • Morvis

            there’s a video right in the middle of it. You just read headlines and go straight to the comments?

          • andre_lefebvre

            “POPE AFFIRMS CHURCH IS INTEGRAL PART OF FOLLOWING JESUS.” would be much closer to properly representing his words. It is so clear that you have created a FAKE NEWS by fabricating a misleading headline. No, he did not say relationship with Jesus is harmful. And you cannot discern this, then you are in the business of slander and lies for your own profit. It’s called click-bait.

            That people get excited about and quickly share these lies, reveals the very low moral/ethical standard for truth so many people have. When News are treated as entertainment, we see this kind of false reporting all over. If you want to properly report, hire people who can see through the fog of confusion, and can report facts to really let people decide.

          • andre_lefebvre

            The video is not fake. The “News” created around it is false, and the headline created for it is false. The aim of the article is to misrepresent his words. That is what Fake News is. If it’s not your intention, then review the video in light of what others have shared here and public a correction.

        • mabuhay1656

          It is How you Interpret of what Pope Francis wants to deliver……………..,

          “For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” Matthew 18:20, it means that is the Church that People gathered……….., “Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts.” Colossians 3:16

          “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock , will build my church,.” Matthew 16:18. What he means, Thru Roman Catholic Church, People gathered together to worship our God, Jesus …., We received Confessions & Holy Communion thru our Church. We pray together thru interconnection with the Church. The other’s explained it very well that, In other Scripture the church is compared to a building with Christ as the Cornerstone and the believers as stones in the building. Also compared to a body with Christ as the head and believers as parts of the Body. The interpretations of Mr. Baxter Dmitry is a Kind of Anti-Christ and many People believing it.

          • Mary Mennona Ventresca

            The Church of Rome was founded in the 4th Century. AD. It hunted down and brutally suppressed the Church that Christ founded and entrusted to the leadership of Peter. This Church remained undeground until the Reformation. Sola Scriptura!

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          • Lencier Aluoch

            Correction the Church used its political arm to condemn those people whom they termed ” heretics”
            [ The term is usually used to refer to violations of important religious teachings, but is used also of views strongly opposed to any generally accepted ideas.]to death millions of christians were persection by the Jesuits and the political authorities which were under the control of papal rome. The RCC turned the Almighty God as a Vengeful waiting to punishing his creatures as they displeased Him, instead of seeing Him as a Loving father just as told in the Prodigal Son, He’s seen as the Heathen gods such as Zeus and Cronus who are cruel and merciless so the people of that time looked to the pope as the mediator between the Vengeful God and the fallen man. So in consequence the character of God is and was misrepresented and distorted Christ was replaced with man thus fulfilling what Paul prophesied in 2Thessalonians 2. So when an idividual came up and read the bible guess what happened you were burnt at the stake, tortured until nature took it course property was confiscicated by the state thrown in dungeon fed to the wild animals in the ampitheatres every concervable thing one could do worse to a human being was done. Relic worshipping entered into the church, they forbade traslation of the bible to other languages they termed it as ‘mortal sin’ and reading of the bible was restricted to the lay people even they lay were given just scripture verses to preach to the congregation. Moral corruption crept into the church to the extend they started selling indulgences and penance.
            Do you even know what indulgences mean?
            An indulgence is the extra-sacramental remission of the temporal punishment due, in God’s justice, to sin that has been forgiven, which remission is granted by the Church in the exercise of the power of the keys, through the application of the superabundant merits of Christ and of the saints, and for some just and reasonable motive.
            What Does the Almighty say “Isaiah 43:25” “Jeremiah 31:34” He forgives and remembers no mor e so that means the sin is blotted out or covered by the blood of the lamb who is Jesus Christ.To be continued…

          • DDiane

            It’s amazing to me how people can take a few scriptures and make a doctrine out of it. The Gospel is filled with scriptures that confirm God (and Jesus who are one) wants to have a personal relationship with each of his children. Jesus himself prayed: John 17:20-23 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, (21) that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. (22) I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one– (23) I in them and you in me–so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
            You can’t be ‘one’ with God & Jesus and not have a personal relationship of some sort.
            Earlier Jesus said: John 16:12-15 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. (13) But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. (14) He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. (15) All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
            The relationship is with Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, who are all ‘one’.

          • Kenny

            Well said @DDiane. When Christ died the veil was torn so we could go into the most Holy of Holys. That is to have a personal relationship with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. In order words have a personal relationship with God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Pope and likes of him who don’t believe in Christ would always say this funny things that brings out their true colours. Remember this a man who bows down to statues (supposedly of Mary and Jesus) even after the bible clearly states that we shouldn’t bow down to any carved, moulded or sculptured image of anything on earth, in the sea, in the air, or in the heavens. Jesus is in heaven and so is Mary. Firstly they are not those images that catholics bow down to. And secondly Mary is not Lord. John 14:6 I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to Father except through Me…. this clearly states Jesus is the only way to eternity. Now He’s knocking on every hearts door. One who’s knocking on every hearts door wants a personal relationship. A relationship that would take you to eternity in heaven….the pope’s alleged speech and his wanting a one world government is just a sign of the end time….they’re just trying to usher in the anti christ…and take as much souls to hell… they will not take souls to hell in Jesus name. AMEN!!!

          • http://oldephartte.blogspot.ca/ opit

            While I do not support the fraud that priests have a direct line to the un-nameable in your place, you might notice that when you reference the Bible you are certifying Old and News Testaments as being of equal authority. Such hardly is compatible with a new covenant and Good News.

          • Bob M

            Dear Sister,
            You and millions like you, have been misled.
            Peter failed Jesus before the cock crowed, but Jesus redeemed him. Jesus told Peter “get thee behind me Satan” which is likely the same message this Pope would get today.

            Paul confronted and corrected the not-infallible Peter in the book of Galatians, Chapter 2, verse 11: “But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.”. The Popes are not infallible at all, they are frauds. Only faithfully translated scripture (like the King James Bible) is infallible, because it’s God’s Word.

            When Jesus called Peter “Petros” (the actual Greek translation of what Jesus said recorded in the new testament) then referred, imagine Jesus pointing to himself now, saying and upon This Rock (“Petra”), meaning Himself, He would build His Church. Jesus being the Rock accords with all the rest of scripture and History. Peter being a failure, but redeemed by the Rock of Ages, The Good Shepherd, the one and only Savior is only King Jesus.

            Peter was and is nothing to build on! Jesus is the only fit Rock. There are many good studies to show that of course He meant Himself, and not a man.

            Popes, for centuries have stolen the glory and honor that God reserved for himself. They misleading what would be Christ’s flock away from the only Savior. To call the Pope “Holy Father” is total blasphemy, a title reserved for God alone. Jesus even said call no man good, for none is good but God; he certainly would not call other men “Holy Father”! Would Jesus turn to Peter and call him “Holy Father” right after telling him “Get behind me Satan”? Would Paul have to rebuke and correct the so-called “Holy Father”? Don’t follow these men that steal God’s titles and authority, or you will end up in the same place they are surely going, not according to my judgment, but what scripture dictates will happen to those who steal God’s glory and mislead His children:
            Matthew 18:6 & Mark 9:42 & Luke 17:2 all agree: But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea..

            This is the destiny of any pope, priest or person who takes a follower of Jesus of the narrow way. Don’t be one of them, learn the truth and be set free. Learn why the Veil to the temple was torn when Jesus died, trust me, you don’t understand today!


            Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


          • Marie Latella

            Peter was not the first pope. .there was never any such thing as a pope ordained of Christ…when Jesus said to Peter On this Rock I shall build my church..He the Christ was talking about himself not Peter..it was on the “Rock of Revelation knowledge ” again not Peter…the whole pope thing is antichrist and apostasy…I was once a Roman catholic..but I set out to find truth after painful experiences..I have been researching the scriptures etc’for 30 years. ..

          • Johnnie Incog

            Correct. Jesus is referred to as The Rock throughout scripture. To assume this ONE use is not would be inconsistent and arbitrary.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock , will build my church,.” Matthew 16:18. What he means, Thru Roman Catholic Church, People gathered together to worship our God, Jesus …., We received Confessions & Holy Communion thru our Church.
            The Early church that Peter established was around after the advent of Jesus Christ that is about 34 Ad after the matrydom of Stephen so it was within that time it went on till around the death of John the beloved disciple who died around 90 AD or so that was after all the Disciple were dead and buried and after the destruction of Jerusalem as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 24:15 that happened in 70 AD. RCC was formed after Contantine and made christianity a universal religion when he converted and at that time the Roman Empire was not stable it was almost at a brink of war he realised changing the popular religion which was paganism to christianity would bring a major political stability so he decided to marry the two so paganism was baptised into christianity. All relics used in paganism was renamed to be what you see today Mary,Jesus…… Saints etc.

        • GCG8688

          Another cult follower? When his words do not align with scripture “BUYER BEWARE”.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            The BIble warns us do not put your trust in me only God is the one who will alays be faiithful and true through all ages

          • Lencier Aluoch

            meant men not me

        • Johnnie Incog
      • Daniel New

        He is not saying people shouldn’t have a personal relationship w/ Jesus, he is saying that going to church is an integral part of being Catholic and deepening that relationship. Definitely fake news.

      • chris

        ”the words came out of the pope’s mouth”
        In the video above?
        Have I Missed anything?
        No more comments..

    • Phillip John

      I would encourage you to read and view this release from the “source” the Vatican itself.

    • Kelvinator

      I agree completely. Click bait, telling us the Pope said it’s dangerous to seek a relationship with Jesus but never showing the context. The article is something completely different from the headline. Remind me to avoid in the future.

      • Lencier Aluoch

        truth be told read the bible by yourself so that you may not blown away with every docrine. Secondly you will be answerable to the Almighty come judgement and woe unto whom the Almighty will say Depart from me I do not know you ar words inscribed “MENE MENE TEKEL URPHASIN”

    • sojorrn

      Watch the Video!

    • Deckardb26354br

      He is telling the flock that they MUST have the Catholic Church in order to commune with God, literally impugning the faith and spiritual standing of billions of Protestants and Orthodox Christians as well as those who are Christian but don’t bow and scrape to Idols every Sunday…. BTW check out the child recoiling in horror at his hand @ 1:15 lol. I think this kid knows something about the Catholic clergy ….

  • Oak66

    This man is off the charts evil.

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  • Raymond Emeel

    he did NOT say that !!!
    he said: if u a believer and u said to ur self, i dont need the church i need only Jesus, then it is dangerous and harmful.

    • BB

      That’s still a false interpretation of what ‘Jesus energy’ really means.
      He didn’t die FOR our sins, but DEW our sins!! That’s the difference.

      • Desil

        That is what Jesus himself said. And since the RCC wrote the Bible with Jesus’s exact words as spoken to the Apostles. I will go with that.
        Some Protestants worship the Bible or their church. Or their own interpretation of what Jesus meant.

      • wtf

        lol@ Jesus energy…you idiot…. ohh and by the way idiot….. Jeus DID die for your sins..and my sins and everybody’s sins

        • BB

          No, that’s what they told you, and what they wrote in de bible…
          I tell you another story…blind chicken. 😉

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          • BB

            hahaha 🙂
            How will you know??

    • Kathy Priestley

      Jesus didn’t have or needed a Church for people to flock to hear his teachings

      • Raymond Emeel

        actually it is the bible which within said that..
        “For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” Matthew 18:20
        “Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts.” Colossians 3:16

        “And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it.” Matthew 16:18

        “not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25

        • BB

          Do you know what an apocrypha is?

        • John Knierim

          In the Greek Peter’s name is translated as “petros” which means little rock. The word rock in that verse is “petra”, which means big rock. Jesus was referring to Peter’s confession, not Peter. Any first year student of Greek would translate this verse correctly, but unfortunately the Catholic church does not.

        • Tim Lumley

          Raymond, as John said, the Greek majority text manuscripts don’t say what your implying but say, You are pertos-not petra or rock, the next part of the passage about himself is the petra part: You are pertos and on this petra (himself-the gospel of the kingdom) i will build my church. Catholosism has misprepresented the Greek words here forever.

        • Palmtree

          You can do all that at Bible Services at home. With friends. How the hell do you think people in underground churches worship? AT SOMEONE’S HOME.

          • Tasu Ura

            Please refrain from swearing. Thank you, God bless

          • http://www.wirenews.co.uk Bill White

            Please don’t tell people how to express themselves.

        • DDiane

          The “Church” is the body of believers in Christ, not organized religion. The early Church gathered in each others homes. It is good to gather with other believers, at least a few. What is dangerous is organized religion that has a format that does not support growth, activation, and discipleship in church gatherings. One person preaching while everyone else sits in their pews and listens for an hour or two, and then goes home, is hardly the model that the early Church demonstrated or God intended.

        • Gary

          Respectfully, I have to disagree with you on your suggestion regarding Peter. Please consider:

          Matthew 16:15-18
          15 He [Jesus] saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
          16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
          17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
          18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

          In the verses above, Christ is responding to the answer given by Peter when He asked His disciples who they believed Him to be. Peter responded, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.” This is the subject of the conversation. This is the truth that God would build the New Testament church on. Jesus said Peter was blessed because God revealed this truth to him, but no where is the intimation made that Peter would be the “rock” upon which God’s church would be built.

          Indeed, Jesus also said in this passage, “…upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” The “gates of hell” did prevail against Peter. Several days later, at the time of Christ’s trial, Peter denied Christ with cursing and swearing. However, Satan never prevailed against Christ. The church was built upon One against whom the gates of hell could not prevail. Jesus Christ is our Rock and our salvation.

          Read Mark 8:27-30, and compare it with the verses in Matthew. Any percieved amubigity will be cleared up.

          “The head of every man is Christ.” God, who put all things under the Saviour’s feet, “gave Him to be the head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all.” 1 Corinthians 11:3; Ephesians 1:22, 23. The church is built upon Christ as its foundation; it is to obey Christ as its head. It is not to depend upon man, or be controlled by man. Many claim that a position of trust in the church gives them authority to dictate what other men shall believe and what they shall do. This claim God does not sanction. The Saviour declares, “All ye are brethren.” All are exposed to temptation, and are liable to error. Upon no finite being can we depend for guidance. The Rock of faith is the living presence of Christ in the church. Upon this the weakest may depend, and those who think themselves the strongest will prove to be the weakest, unless they make Christ their efficiency. “Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm” (Jeremiah 17:5). The Lord “is the Rock, His work is perfect” (Deuteronomy 32:4). “Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him” (Psalm 2:12).

          Centuries before the Savior’s advent Moses pointed to the Rock of Israel’s salvation (see Deuteronomy 32:4). Referring to God, the psalmist sang of “the Rock of my strength” and “salvation” (Psalm 62:7; 95:1) Isaiah wrote, “Thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation” (Isaiah 28:16). Peter himself, writing by inspiration, applies this prophecy to Jesus. He says, “If ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious: unto whom coming, a living stone, rejected indeed of men, but with God elect, precious, ye also, as living stones, are built up a spiritual house.” 1 Peter 2:3-5

          “Other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” 1 Corinthians 3:11. “Upon this rock,” said Jesus, “I will build My church.” In the presence of God, and all the heavenly intelligences, in the presence of the unseen army of hell, Christ founded His church upon the living Rock. That Rock is Himself,—His own body, for us broken and bruised. Against the church built upon this foundation, the gates of hell shall not prevail.

          Also, please see Acts 15. In that chapter a meeting of Christian leaders was convened in Jerusalem to discuss issues regarding Gentile converts. Although Peter was present at the meeting, James clearly had been designated the leader of the group pronouncing “his” final decision in verse 19.

          Then there is the incident in Galatians 2:11-16, where Paul corrected Peter “because he was to be blamed.” Again, Peter stumbled.

          And what saith the rest of the Scriptures? Please consider:

          1) Deuteronomy 32:8 says, “Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, and have forgotten the God who fathered you.”
          2) 1 Samuel 2:2 says, “No one is holy like the Lord, for there is none beside You, nor is there any rock like our God.
          3) 1 Samuel 22:2 says, “And he said: The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer…”
          4) 2 Samuel 22:32 says, “For who is God, except the Lord? And who is a rock, except our God?”
          5) Psalm 42:9 says, “I will say to God my Rock…”
          6) And then there’s Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in Daniel 2. Christ is called “a stone” cut out “without” human “hands.”
          8) There is also the references in 1 Peter, chapter 2.

          JESUS CHRIST is the Rock. Not Peter, or the Pope or any other man. Scripture is clear my friend. Blessings.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            This remind me of Revelation 1:17-19 Some of the powerful promises Almighty has for us.

        • Lencier Aluoch

          there is a comma
          imagine same goes for the repentant thief people think he went to heaven that day but Jesus promised him on that day that the would be with Jesus in paradise that is in the future. I is like saying “Today, I promise you I will go with you to Morocco.” It doesnot mean I will go with you on that day to Morocco it means in future I will go with you to Morocco.
          If you study prophesy you do realise where is Jesus currently ?
          He is in the Holy of Holies as seen by John in Revelation as seen by Daniel it is the same so Jesus is yet to go to paradise so it is correct to say that all the saints living or dead [ we say asleep] are wher here on earth asleep waiting for the Day of the Lord commonly known as The Judgement or armaggeddon or apocalpse.

    • youdontneedachurchsimpleasthat

      You don’t need a church…you only need Jesus…read your Bible

      • Raymond Emeel

        actually it is the bible which within said that..
        “For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” Matthew 18:20
        “Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts.” Colossians 3:16

        “And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it.” Matthew 16:18

        • Raymond Emeel

          “not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25

        • nickatnet

          The correct reading of Matt.16:18 is “you are Peter (meaning a stone, then Jesus speaking of Himself) and on this Rock I will build my church.” The church was built on Christ not Peter. In other Scripture the church is compared to a building with Christ as the Cornerstone and the believers as stones in the building. Also compared to a body with Christ as the head and believers as parts of the body.

          • Raymond Emeel

            yes, that is the church i think Jesus was talking about…”Christ as the cornerstone and believers as stones”…not the building..it is HIM and US

          • XTXTEEE

            So then why has it been passed down through the millennia that St. Peter is at the Pearly Gates with the “keys to heaven”? If Jesus did not want to transfer his authority to Peter, why go through the whole “what you hold bound on earth will be bound in heaven” routine? This is the danger of personal relationship with Jesus the Pope was warning about. No matter what the words say, there are always folks to argue what it really means. If you don’t believe me, go into any Court anywhere in the United States sometimes and listen to what is being argued there.

          • nickatnet

            The myth of St. Peter at the pearly gates obviously comes from the catholic idea that Peter was the first Pope. Another shocker may be the idea that only very special and blessed people can become saints. If you read the Bible correctly all believers are referred to as saints. Check out the letters of the Apostle Paul as he always begins his letters with a greeting such as “To the saints at Philippi” etc. You may refer to me as St. Stephen, although I am not the one in the Bible.

          • Andy Korpisah

            flawed knowledge again. i”m yet to see your convincing remarks. Saints could be anyone, but its not a characteristic, it’s a state

          • Laura

            St Peter at the gates is most certainly not in the Bible.. It’s myth or Catholic tradition or a line in a story or comic.. IMHO Catholic tradition is a lot like the book of Mormon.. Added on rules and regulations that burden human beings and hinder their walk. Accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, read your instruction manual (the Bible) and do what Jesus said.. “Go and sin no more”, remembering that the kingdom of heaven belongs to the poor in spirit.. (Those who well understand and Jesus’ mercy and grace toward them is indeed their salvation because to go and sin no more is impossible).. Causes us to understand our true need for a Savior.. Thank you Jesus!!! No, I don’t mean do whatever you want to.. I mean realize the magnitude of what Jesus actually did for you!!

          • DDiane

            The Gospel is filled with scriptures that confirm God wants to have a personal relationship with each of his children so that we become ‘one with him. Jesus himself prayed: Joh 17:20-23 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, (21) that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. (22) I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one– (23) I in them and you in me–so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
            You can’t be ‘one’ with someone and not have a personal relationship.
            Earlier Jesus said: Joh 16:12-15 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. (13) But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. (14) He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. (15) All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”

          • XTXTEEE

            Those are truly written as you say, but my point has always been: Which came first, the written word, or the practice from which the word sprung forth?

            Please, I beg you to educate yourself. Orthodox christianity began 600 years before the bible, in its current form, came to be. It wasn’t for another 850 years before it started to be mass produced–printed.

            And even after it had been printed, the number of those who could read it were a small percentage of the population–reading is relatively a new concept given the history of mankind.

            Without education, your thoughts are merely your ideas based on how you feel. So, please, ask yourself this question, and do the research to back it up: Which came first, the christian faith, or the bible reflecting that faith? Once you answer that, then ask yourself: What faith does the bible reflect? In other words, what “religion” was around when the bible was written? And then finally, find out when your religion started and then compare it to when the bible was written.

            This is not about what the bible says, it is only about primacy. Does the bible trump practice? Or does historical practice supersede biblical interpretation? It is just a question.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            My people are lost for they do not know the scriptures says the Lord of Host
            Secondly Jesus was warning us not to swear or take oath for it will bind you both here on earth as well as in heaven so he told us if it is yes say yes no say no so as not to condemn yourself. Peter was given the responsiblity of directing the early church in that the church was organised in its activities terms of teaching healing evangelising and so on so as to work as one for a specific purpose which was to spead the word to the uttermost part of the world. If you do not have a personal relation with Jesus does that negate Revelation 3:20
            John 16:7-15: 14:6-7; 14:16-18
            1 Corithians 3:16-19
            What type of relationship is that is I may ask you?

          • XTXTEEE

            Let’s try this again. 300 years before the bible was pieced together in, or about 600 A.D., the Apostle’s Creed existed. I beg you to read it. It refers to “one, holy, catholic, and apostolic” church. Not 100,000 differing variations parsed from differing translations of one bible. So, the “personal relationship” referred to numerous times in the bible are demonstrated as Jesus himself had “personal relationships” with those he ministered to, he healed, he preached, and to those who followed him. The protestants have this “personal relationship” with Christ mantra because they have no authority to do what Christ’s “third commandment” is: “Do this in memory of me.” I’m not a theological scholar, but I am a thinker, and there is no other way to parse this out from, nearly, 2,000 years of biblical teaching.

            There is a huge amount of money being made in the name of selling Christ. Every protestant church cues up on this money trough filling its coffers in the name of interpreting the bible the way that makes them the most money. Lutherans and Episcopalians have “ordained gay ministers” when the bible finds such conduct offensive. Why? Because catering to those who are gay sells. I have no position personally on being gay. Whether God approves or disapprove their conduct is beyond my pay grade. But the bible is pretty clear on it. So, if you want to follow the bible, go for it. But following the bible does not necessary accurately reflect Christ’s teachings and examples.

            Finally, any direct translation you refer to from an English source must be view with a gimlet eye: It has been “translated” from a “translation,” which may, or may not have been accurate at the time. Te view the English, French, or any modern language’s version of the bible as God’s word does not take into account the “hearsay” component the English common law, and American take of that law codified in “hearsay” testimony as something that should be viewed suspiciously.

            I welcome you to believe what you want, but at least be intellectually honest about it.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            What you are clearly forgetting the bible was written in scrolls which was handed down and spread wherever the churches were and as the apostles were traveling as you can see they were leaving word of good and each church copied from original compilation happened because the collected scrolls from those churches and compared and discovered that they were copies of copies and from different regions in which the gospel was spread if you remeber correctly Paul travelled to Ethiopia the early church during the apostles time travelled even upto malta india.

          • XTXTEEE

            Please, Lencier, read my post again. The words “pieced together” clearly mean that I did not “forget the bible was written in scrolls.” Your post does not add, nor detract from my point, which is: The bible reflects the “universal,” or using a more antiquated word, “catholic” way of life at the time after Christ. Thus, the faith came before the bible, not as we have today where so many “faiths” came because of their differing interpretations of it.

            Mormons, at least, honestly present their differing views by writing their own “Testament,” which is separate and apart from the Holy Bible. They do not pick-and-choose which passages to accept, and which to reject as to whether it meets their personal needs. Instead, they wrote their own version of their religion.

            To some extent, the Muslims and the Jews did the same thing. So, I’m not condemning any of them, I’m just noting it as a fact that exists. Nothing more.

          • markexpress75

            And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone or Peter.

        • http://www.imowired.com IMOwired

          There was also this:
          Matthew 6:5-6New International Version (NIV)

          5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

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      • XTXTEEE

        And who do you think wrote the Bible? When you get the facts, you might be better informed.

        • nickatnet

          I remember several years ago, I believe in the early 90’s the super computer of the day was the Cray. They ran the entire Bible through it and it concluded that it was written by one author. Guess who. God. Yes He used men to pen it through the Holy Spirit.

          • XTXTEEE

            I have no doubt that the Bible was “written” by God through those who listened to him. With that being said, the Bible writers were still of one, holy, apostolic faith. Of this, there is no doubt. You can argue this point all you want, but the history has been written, as such, it cannot be changed–unless you want to try to re-write history.

            My point is simply this: The Bible is not a faith, it reflects one. It is a memorialization of what Christ taught us when he was here, and it provides guidance to those who take the time to read it. With that being said, however, the overwhelming number of protestant faiths that rely on the Bible as a pure representation of what Christianity provides cannot be denied. The Orthodox faiths, of which Roman Catholics are one, pre-date the Bible. Our faith is not predicated on the Bible, the Bible is a representation of our faith. Understanding this paradigm provides those who seek truth only from what is written in the Bible as those who receive their information from reviews from those who actually witnessed the action. Not unlike a movie reviewer, the Bible reviews Christ’s life. While those of us who practice the Orthodox version of Christ’s life, continue to live it 2,000+ years later.

            Say what you may about the frailties men who try to preserve the Orthodox “catholic,” meaning “universal” understanding of Christianity, the number of holes that protestants face each and every day is staggering. Transubstantiation of bread and wine to body and blood of Christ is a good example of the protestant/catholic (note the small “c”, meaning Greek, “universal”) divide.

            But I do not want protestants to change on my account. It is my prayer that those will convert because they see their version of their faith to be lacking in all of the elements presented in the Bible, again, using “transubstantiation” as merely one example.

          • Laura

            I’m sorry but the Bible, the words of Christ and of his apostles and “saints” override tradition any day of the week.. The Bible is the instruction manual inspired by God and given to men.. ALL men.. If what you say is true, why then isn’t the Bible specifically directed at Catholics? It’s not. It’s directed at all who believe and adhere to and trust in Jesus, the “Word made flesh”, in which one verse comes to mind and is the most widely known verse in all of scripture.. John 3:16.. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that “”””whoever”””” believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

          • XTXTEEE

            And your authority for this lies where? If Christ did not want to transfer his authority to Peter, why would Matthew’s Gospel exist? All non-Catholic, and again, I do not mean “ROMAN” Catholic, I mean the “universal” orthodox “catholic” church that pre-date the creation of the printing press, had no reason to believe that the Bible was capable of being read by the public because reading was not a common practice. The equivalent today would be to require everyone to have gone to law school. Scribes then were the same as are today. Thus, the fiction that the people were given directions by God for them to read for themselves, and by that act, determine how to act is fanciful. The Bible is not any ordinary book. The Bible, given your own admission, was written with God’s direction. By that very nature, we cannot comprehend the magnitude that it offers without having properly studied it in context.

            For example, why was Jesus’s conversation with the woman at the well so important? On that point alone, Biblical scholars have spent hours upon hours parsing the significance of this one, relatively, simple act: Talk to a women who was getting water from a well. How novel? But yes, it was novel. And the fact that it has so many levels renders any simple explanation worthless.

            Finally, non-orthodox christians lack one salient point of true Christianity: Apostolic succession. I have no doubt you are unaware of what that is because, as a “Biblican,” one who only follows the Bible, you MUST not believe in it. Christians follow Christ. On the other hand, Biblicans follow the Bible because they lack what the Apostle’s Creed dictates. FYI, the Apostle’s Creed, a prayer written 300 years or so before the Bible existed in its current form, speaks of “one, holy, catholic, and “apostolic” church. Again, I will not teach, preach, or argue with anyone on this point. All I ask is that you do your own research and figure out what it means to have “apostolic succession,” which all protestants lack.

            Transubstantiation, another point that Christ makes throughout the Gospels, please explain that one to me using only Biblical references. It can’t be done. And the reason why is because this practice started with Christ, and it was practiced routinely, much like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, so it never needed to be written in a book, even one called the Bible.

            Again, I encourage you to cure your ignorance of what “orthodox christianity” stands for, I still ask you to do so, you might be surprised at what you find.

            Be well…

          • Nothingelsemattersatall

            yes nick…correct….. God wrote it through men as his pen,.. if people read the Bible.. and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the TRUTH within it to them…they will feel their spirit being fed… unless that happens…they might as well just read the newspaper… cos the result will be the same.. their spirit will just feel an emptiness…. you have to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you.. TRUTH.. Jesus is the Word of God.. that’s what he meant when he said… I am the Way the TRUTH and the Life. If you don’t have Jesus in your life you have no LIFE .. what you have is….. an existence and an emptiness…
            The Bible is like a roadmap.. it shows you the WAY.. to the Father and the way Home to Heaven.. nothing else matters…. absolutely nothing else matters

          • Lencier Aluoch

            And it is the only book that doesn’t contradict itself it harmonises with all scripture in it

        • Roman Marquez

          Jesus taught dont waste time arguing mindless geneologies ,i dont need to prove anything about the bible ,following the teachings of whoever wrote it can and will improve your life.

          • XTXTEEE

            Let me be absolutely clear about this: I’m not arguing anything, including “mindless geneologies.” The Bible is merely one element to understanding Christianity, but it is not the only one. Protestants use the Bible as their exclusive authority, but to do so, defies 600+years of practicing Christians who never had the Bible to refer to.

            My question to all those who proclaim a non-Orthodox connection to Christianity: What would you do in your church without the Bible had the Catholics not written it for you? Undeniably, the early Christians kept the faith without a Bible; thus, a faith cannot be based purely on a Bible because doing so would negate the 600+years when no Bible was present, and when I refer to the Bible, I’m referring to the New Testament–Christ’s history.

            Finally, reading the Bible alone is worthless unless you adopt the whole concept–there should not be picking and choosing of points that you want to follow, and others that you find less important. Either you buy the whole thing, or you buy none of it, but please don’t discriminate against the complete teachings Christ provided.

          • Dee

            Catholics did not give us the bible! What a huge lie.

          • XTXTEEE

            Really? When did your church start? Better yet, what church sits at every famous biblical site on the planet? In Bethlehem, for example? Next, if what I say is a “lie,” I must know that a fact exists that counters what I say, and I presented this point knowing that I am wrong. I assure you,”Dee,” if that is your real name, I absolutely believe what I say is the truth, so while I may not be correct, this would make me “mistaken” instead of a “liar.”

            Naturally, you appear not well versed in your religious history, you do not know what you think you know. Alexander Pope once wrote, “A little information is a dangerous thing.” In your case, Dee, no truer words were spoken. I won’t call you a “liar,” “Dee,” but I will say you are uneducated. I beg, implore, ask you to find out for yourself, “Dee” when the Catholic Church was founded. I ask you then to deduce when the Bible was collected into one book. And then, I ask you to figure out what Orthodox church was then active at that time. Now, just to be sure, I did not say “Roman Catholic,” I was speaking in the generic “catholic” church, which included all the orthodox version of catholicism that were then present in the Seventh Century, around 660 A.D., but then I expect you know that already being the religious scholar that you are.

            When you learn the truth “Dee,” you will see that (a) I did not lie, and (b) you were mistaken. Nothing more; nothing less.

          • Dee

            You are so wrong, I could write a book. But to save space, I will say, I have researched every thing thoroughly. The RCC has done nothing for Christianity, except try to stop the Word of God from falling into the common man’s hands. They killed so many Christians, that they have been identified in Revelation as the whore, drunk on the blood of the saints. The Vatican is rotten to the core. The original writings, from the Textus Receptus had nothing to do with Rome, and indeed were carefully hidden away by the faithful, preserved in the Auth KJV Bible, which is why the Vatican hates it so much and is trying so hard to change it with all the modern versions. Yes, all roads lead to Rome, (all wicked roads). The Lord our God shall bring all to light, all the murders, all the pedophilia, all the homosexuality, all the witchcraft, all the paganism that is within the Vatican. It will be judged; the Jesuits, the popes, all of it.

          • XTXTEEE

            Well, we are making progress. I have gone from being a “liar,” to just being “wrong.” Thank you.

            Second, the fact that “Dee” has “researched everything fully” offers XTXTEE no solace whatsoever. For example: What education level have you had? Have you researched primary sources, or secondary, or maybe even tertiary (third level) sources? The fact that you claim to have “researched everything” scares me, to be honest with you, I’ve never met such a great thinker. If true, consider me awe inspired.

            All kidding aside, Dee, I doubt you are as well read as you clam to be, especially espousing “The RCC has done nothing for Christianity, except try to stop the Word of God from falling from the common man’s hands.” And look at where that has gotten the common man who has the capacity to read, interpret, and act on the Bible’s teachings for themselves: Over 100,000 differing interpretations of the Bible’s teachings.

            You have made my argument precisely, Dee. Thank you. Before the printing press, Dee, there was one, “catholic,” which is a Greek word meaning “universal” understanding of Christ’s teachings. But when Guttenberg invented the printing press, all hell broke loose, and the Lutherans, Episcopalians, Baptists and the endless parade of “I’ve got a better interpretation of what Christ meant in the Bible” came to pass. Really? Do you really think that Christ wants 100,000 differing versions of his teachings?

            I appreciate your passion for your non-orthodox, Biblican based faith. It probably has served you well, but your words belie your faith: You are angry at the Roman Catholic Church. You don’t like it because of the frailties of the men who have tried to keep it going. Be it priests, bishops, or even Popes who have fallen short because of their human nature, the fact remains, Orthodox teaching predates the Bible, and this fact does not diminish the power the Bible offers, but it helps put it into context. Nothing more.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            I try to say I ‘m not condemning the people in but the system and history itself is damning at the most.
            Have you seen the torture devises used to tortured christians in the middle ages which is refered to as the dark ages? The have devices so crude that made being devoured by bests seem merciful

          • Dee

            Seriously!!!?? My “church” started at Pentecost. You must be born again, which you are obviously not.

          • XTXTEEE

            So you are an Orthodox Christian then! I don’t think you were, but let’s play along. What did your church do right after “Pentecost” and for the 500-plus years thereafter without a Bible to refer to? Could you explain your traditions? Would you tell us where your churches were located in the Holy Land? Really? There is a reason why so many Catholic churches are where biblical events happened: Because we were the only christians on the planet before Guttenberg’s printing press. Being uninformed does not give you any credence simply because it is what you believe. The facts are there. Whether you want to consider facts as truths is up to you.

            Be well

          • Dee

            We are the church, they were first called Christians at Antioch. Our Lord is the head, we are the body. The apostate Catholic church did not give us our Bibles. Nor do they have any part in me or any real believer. That is not to say there aren’t wonderful people at the local Catholic churches, they’re just sorely misled. But I have no regard for the leadership. They are deceived. The higher up, the worse it gets. They know what they are into. Connected to every foul thing under the sun, they shall give account to God. Born again Christians follow Christ. Not a pope. I am not orthodox. I am a blood-bought, spirit-filled, saved by grace child of God. You aren’t a true Christian, so there is no need arguing. You are blind, miserable and poor because you think the Whore of Babylon, pagan church has anything to do with
            Christianity. How sad. How deluded. Anyone else who wants the truth, read David W. Daniels book, “Did the Catholic Church Give Us the Bible?” I have researched a lot.
            This book puts everything in a nutshell. You can read it to your children. It’s excellent. My credentials: born again Christian, Holy Ghost sealed, ambassador for Christ.
            And by the way, no, the Catholic Church did NOT give us the bible.

          • XTXTEEE

            Wow Dee! We have gone from calling me a liar, then to being misled, now I am “blind, miserable and poor because I think that the Whore of Babylon” a “pagan church has anything to do with Christianity.

            Then, to boot, You ask me to read Mr. Daniels’ book about whether the Catholic Church Gave Us the Bible,” and you too have researched it and found the Orthodox churches to be severely wanting.

            Yet, Dee, I asked you to answer a few choice questions, and you refuse. No response on what “apostolic succession” means. No response on why all the holy sites have Catholic/Orthodox churches situated there. No response about what “your” church that started at Pentecost did during the 500 years before the Bible was compiled. Really, for someone as well educated as you claim to be Dee, I would have thought that the answers would have tripped off of your tongue, but to date, nothing.

            But back to my essential point, have I fairly represented your position? Did I in fact quote you correctly? If so, the line has been drawn. You say “tomato,” and I say “tom-ah-to.” Your favorite flavor of ice cream and my favorite flavor differ.

            At least we know where we stand. But before we end this delightful banter, I’d like you to review our discourse and to consider this: On one hand, the one who claims the mantle of “Christianity at Antioch” called the one who ascribes to the “Whore of Babylon” a liar, mistaken, sorely misled, deceived, blind, miserable, poor, deluded, and generally ignorant of religious history. On the other, the “Whore” has not leveled one sideways comment about you except to present facts as I see them so pray that there might be a chance you may want to explore these avenues more deeply. Again, I do not believe you to be as well educated about the subject as you think you are.

            If our actions reflect our true nature, ask yourself this Dee, if you were to compare your “christian” conduct with my “pagan” conduct, which of us better reflects the teachings of Christ? The name caller or the fact reciter?

            While we agree that there are many of those who call themselves Catholic leader that brought disrepute and shame to Christ’s church, But I can’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. It is interesting though the contrast between the way self-claimed christians behave when historical facts are presented them, and those who know the truth, and merely try to convey it as neutrally as possible to others–which is all I did, and not once did I call you any ad hominem derogatory slur, is considered the un-Christianon. isn’t that what happened?

            Be well, and thank you for a great discussion.

          • Dee

            2 Corinthians 4:3-4
            3But if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4whose minds the god of this age has blinded …

            John 3:3
            Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

            Open your eyes people. Look at the real truth of the Vatican.
            This is not Christianity. This is not what Jesus or the disciples taught. This is wickedness. We who know the Lord are to warn others.




          • Lencier Aluoch

            The RCC forbade the distrution of Bibles and 2 forbade the reading of it and 3 restricted it to lay people interpreting it 4translation of it to native tongue so the bible was preserved in latin alone which if you consider is not spoken by many people hence Tyndale translated the bible to English which is what we used today guess what happened to him he was matyred as a heretic by the Church (RCC)

          • Roman Marquez

            To say that no Bible was present is a fallacy, and are you talking about the king james bible? Which is riddled with inaccuracies due to it’s translation from ancient greek, the bible the Hindu and the Buddha holy books can be cross referenced and deliver the same messages from god.

          • XTXTEEE

            Your ignorance of christian history is noteworthy. The “King James” interpretation of the bible did not come about until the 17th Century, when the King of England broke from the Catholic Church after the “great schism” of 1565. As for my comments about the “bible” being created in 660, I should have said it was “compiled” from the religious writers of the time in 660, in response to Constantine’s desire to have a written memorial of Christ’s life and teachings.

            And while the Bible tracks much of the sources you cite, the one distinction that Christians have above all others is to believe in power over death, which is universally understood as something to be avoided.

            Please educated yourself. It would do you well in the future, I promise this to you. History, be it religious or political, it can be really interesting.

            Until then, good luck, and be well.

          • Lencier Aluoch

            Before it was written in scrolls even in the early church Bible is the compilation of all scrolls that had been written as the apostles travelled as they spread the gospel

          • XTXTEEE

            Actually, Christ taught to treat the weakest amongst us the way of the light. In this case, “arguing mindless genealogies” is the way that I do that. LOL!

            Be well.

        • Lencier Aluoch

          Every book written by man mind etc has disappeared completely but the bible is the only book that has withstood time you do know new testament is 2000years old and old testament which Jesus used to read and teach from at Jesus time it had been 4000years old and it has be over 2000years since Jesus Ascension now tell me if it is not Divinely Ordained.

      • Lencier Aluoch

        however the church is needed for strengthening our faith and fellowship. When people meet in church they share what God has done for them give praises for man was made to be a social being not live in seclusion.

    • Alydia Hardin

      The Church are Christian people and not a building…At this point I need Jesus and other real Christians…NOT the false prophet called the pope…

    • Sherry Olsen

      Raymond, you say corectly. The pope referred to the present trend of believing in Jesus but foregoing the need to attend church. The church believes it is good and necessary to gather together in fellowship and partake of the Eucharist together at least once a week. Not for the sake of the church but for your own sake. Research shows it is dangerous and harmful to keep one’s own council, alone. We are not meant to be islands. Yes, the church is imperfect. Yes, it is run by humans supposed to be in obedience to God, but prone to failure as all humans are. Yet, if good people remain an island unto themselves and do nothing outwardly to promote right and truth, then wrong prevails in church and out. (BTW: Not just within the Catholic Church does pedophilia exist 5 to 7 percent, but the same percentage exists in all institutions involving children. Sort of a “ye, who are without sin, cast the first stone” excuse for ditching church, when sin abounds everywhere!)

    • PackCat

      You don’t need the Catholic church! Any place that preaches the Gospel will do.

      • Raymond Emeel

        i didnt say Catholic church..i said church !

    • Johnnie Incog

      Correct interpretation and context of the Pope’s remarks. However, the Pope is still wrong.

  • BB

    He must be jewish? They don’t believe in ‘Jesus messages’ they believe that Jesus was a loser. They are satanists..nothing more.
    That’s why the other pope quitted this satanic agenda.
    Pope Francisco is an ‘Jesuit mafia gangster’ nothing more. Just put him away, if you are a christian with guts!!

    • Katherine McChesney

      He is not a Jew. He is a satanist.

  • Doitnoworelse

    Without a personal relationship with Jesus Christ you go to hell…its as simple as that..no “ifs or buts”…you have a relationship with Jesus or you go to hell….hell is very hot and very permanent….you decide…there is not a lot of time left to decide…DO IT NOW… AND READ YOUR BIBLE DAILY…

    • John Thompson

      What the pope said was blasphemy! You will stand before Jesus alone…Not with anyone else or with any organization to plead your case. JESUS is our mediator, and will either present you to the Father BLAMELESS as having been made perfect by “his” perfect sacrifice on our behalf OR Jesus will tell you he never “knew” you. and to depart from him. “Gnosko” is the word used to relay an Intimate & personal type of knowing such as the type between a husband and a wife. You don’t get any more Personal than that. He either knows you personally as one of his elect or you will be told to depart from him, and suffer the 2nd death.

  • Ben

    If you actually read what was said…the pope said you cant have a relationship with Christ AWAY from Holy Communion and the Church….

    • Rubygirl

      If that is what he said, it still isn’t true. We are encouraged as Christians to join together as in church as we draw strength from one another. But going to church will never make you a Christian. Christians are encouraged to take ”communion” to celebrate the sacrifice of Christ; but again that doesn’t make you a Christian. Ths Pope is a false prophet!

      • Rebecca Glesener Davis

        LOL, LOL.

    • Sherry Smith Gibson

      That sure is what is looked like he said to me.

  • TxPatriot53

    Regardless of what he said, he executed a coup in the Vatican to take over from Benedict, he is not a legitimate pope.

  • Thomas Paine

    This is the first true statement the pope has said in quite sometime!

  • Grace Wanjiru

    he represents RCC,thats what the church stands for,only the pope has said it in black and white.

  • palcau ioan

    ofc,for his a son of satan! all the evils fears His Name,included satan! so,everytime this satanic pope speak up,his words r against christians ,against God!! let him die in peace,God will take a good care of his sins!

  • 2016usaofzimbabwe

    he gone mad..or worse…

  • Renet Rowe

    Even my old Baptist preacher used to say this, that shunning church gatherings wasn’t good, that the Bible says, “gather yourselves together,” and that it’s a cop out to just claim that you, “worship at home.” That is all the pope is saying here. Of course, you’ve all chosen to read stuff on this ridiculous X Files “news” conspiracy site, but don’t let that bother you. Once you finish with the pope stuff, make sure you read the several alien, and illuminati nutjob articles on this site. I’m sure they will add, “proof the Earth is flat,” any day now.

    • Craig Ritsema

      Renet Rowe:
      The worlds not flat?

  • mabuhay1656

    This is a FAKE NEWS….., whoever wrote this about Pope Francis, may you go to hell. NO RESPECT to our POPE, putting words that Pope Francis didn’t said it. Their interpretations are not correct at all. May your soul be w/ Lucifer, when your time come’s.

    • Rufas2000

      He said it but not in the way this site presents it. It was just perhaps an awkwardly translated “You can’t go it alone” speech. Christians are made to rely on one another. But each of us does make the decision to accept Jesus on our own. But we live the life He gives to us together.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Frank is the vicar of satan.

      • mabuhay1656

        It is How you Interpret of what Pope Francis wants to deliver……………..,

        “For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” Matthew 18:20, it means that is the Church that People gathered……….., “Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts.” Colossians 3:16

        “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock , will build my church,.” Matthew 16:18. What he means, Thru Roman Catholic Church, People gathered together to worship our God, Jesus …., We received Confessions & Holy Communion thru our Church. We pray together thru interconnection with the Church. The other’s explained it very well that, In other Scripture the church is compared to a building with Christ as the Cornerstone and the believers as stones in the building. Also compared to a body with Christ as the head and believers as parts of the Body. The interpretations of Mr. Baxter Dmitry is a Kind of Anti-Christ and many People believing it.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Jesus is the ONLY Rock of our Salvation. I Corinthians 10:4 says “and the Rock was Christ”. But then you are a member of the death cult headquartered in Rome. You people are not Christians at all.

          • mabuhay1656

            I believe only in one God & that is Jesus Christ, & I have Faith on him but you, as your saying you are Christian by insulting Pope Francis as Vicar of Satan….! You do think that you’ll be exempted not to go to hell, that you’re soul gonna be save by accusing someone as a Satan bec. you did not pick up what Pope Francis wants to deliver to the people. Is it the interpretations of what he said was very hard to understand that’s why you’re saying he’s a Satan. Prayers for you to enlightened your mind.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Frank IS the Vicar of satan.

          • AmericaIsToast

            This sure sounds like the Church of Rome to me. No other church is drunken with the martyrs of the saints with tens of millions slaughtered for true faith in Christ. Sola Scripture. There are only two religions on this earth. It is called doing or done. The true way to Heaven is DONE. Those working their way to Heaven are going to wake up in Hell. Jesus Christ is God in flesh and he alone is the way to Heaven. Jesus said, “Except ye believe that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.” Who is Jesus Christ, he is God in the flesh. He is the image of the invisible God. He was on this earth talking to Nicodemus, but he was also in Heaven at that moment. Only the Almighty could do that, yet Jesus did.

            And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

            With discernment, it is very easy to see who is being talked about here. It is the Whore of Babylon, the Church that sits on seven hills. Duh!!!

            And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy,
            having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell
            thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. The beast that was and is not, is himself an eighth king, yet he belongs to the seven and is going to destruction. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

  • Katherine McChesney

    what an asshole. Proof that Roman Catholics aren’t Christian and this satanist is proof that he is a vicar of satan.

  • Mario Graciano M. Bioneda

    OMG. The Pope speech was taken out of context by non-Catholics to deceive people portraying Pope Francis as evil. tHIS COULD ALSOI BE A PLOY SO THAT CATHOLICS WILL BE PERSUADED TO ABANDON THE TRUE RELIGION. The catholic Church is the TRUE CHURCH with its proof/mark as ONE, HOLY,CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC Church founded by Christ. all other religions were only founded by Men.

    • Craig Ritsema

      Mario Graciano M. Bioneda:
      The Catholic Church was not founded or started by Jesus Christ but was started at the end of the first century and the begining of the 2nd century.
      You need to relate to biblical times where Catholic church meant Universal Church because at that time the Catholic church was the only church. Once devout men of God, Calvin, Luther, Wesley discovered the errors of the church, thru the Grace of God, they started churches which were more Biblical based. Jesus never founded or started any churches.

  • mourningair

    How about that coke fueled gay orgy at the Vatican? The pope smokes dope. They’re all a bunch of goober smoochers. No moral high ground to stand and preach from.

  • Alan Gagg

    This writer is spot on! God bless you as we point all to jesus! Keep in mind the book of Revelation, And I saw those who have been martyred for Jesus beneath the throne!

  • Yvon Sylva

    Read wath Christ tinks about religions and churches…


  • fights

    I am in no way a fan of the Pope’s, but this is a misleading title.

  • Fernando Arenas

    What a distorted interpretation you bring here. First, the Pope is not a Liberal. If anything his message is a staunchly conservative one: “Belong to the Church or you´re not a Christian.” I disagree with him but I understand what he says. What you´re doing is just absurd fundamentalist right-wing propaganda.

  • Akos Tarkanyi

    Baxter Dmitry, don’t lie, please!

  • stever777

    The church is the body of Messiah. We are Jews and Gentiles who have become one in Christ. Focusing on any denomination over your personal relationship with Yeshua is dangerous. Fellowship is important, but not primary.

  • Robin

    This was taken out of context and leads people to believe he is anti-christ. He simply means that we need to belong and congragate together to worship. It’s simply his own feelings. My feelings are different. I know that we can have a personal relationship with Jesus as long as we can distinguish the good from the bad.

  • Judy

    I just watched the video of what he said. This article is a distortion of the truth (fake news) in an attempt to promote a false narrative about the pope and the Catholic Church. Watch the video yourself. THis article links together sentences but omits the important sentences in between Catholics believe in a relationship with Jesus and the church. You don’t have to believe that but let us have the freedom of our religion. Stop spreading fake news in Jesus name in order to demean others. Woukd Jesus do that?

  • http://byu-professor.tumblr.com/ Cathy den Boer

    Mormons discourage a personal relationship with Jesus –

    Our Relationship with the Lord

    Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.
    We worship the Father and him only and no one else. We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense–the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us.
    Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.


  • john lesley

    All religion is dangerous and harmful.


    My goodness. While I do not agree with this Pope’s political agenda, I cannot agree with him more as it pertains to “personal relationship with Jesus” crap. This is what non-Catholic’s say when they want to reject parts of the Bible that they disagree with–I have accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior. Oh please! Give me strength. To be a “Christian” means to be “Christ-like.” Do you think Christ took himself to be his own personal lord and savior? Get a clue folks. Using Christ’s example, he fed the hungry. He healed the sick. He counseled the poor in spirit. He did not have a “personal relationship” with himself. Non-Catholic christians rely on the “personal relationship” crap to avoid following the “third commandment”: “Do this in memory of me.” If you are not Catholic, you won’t understand, move along, there is nothing to see here. I’m not engaging in any “Catholic vs. Protestant” cage match here.

    Finally, most people don’t get this, but it is a fact: The New Testament, as currently configured, was established, around, 660 A.D. What do you think early Christians did BEFORE the Bible was established? Orthodox Christians grew BEFORE the Bible was established. EVERY SINGLE PROTESTANT CHURCH, bar none, was created after Gutenberg’s printing press was invented in the mid 15th Century. Why is that do you suppose? Because back in the day, only a small percentage of the public could read, and there was very little to read, so why bother learning how. Back then, there were “scribes,” which in today’s world, would be the equivalent to lawyers. This raises a thought: Imagine, for a moment, what any protestant church would be like without a Bible to refer to; it would be chaos. More likely, the church would have never existed in the first place without a Pastor’s own take on what the Bible means to him or her.

    The Pope, like him or hate him, has got this right: Having a “personal relationship” with Jesus will lead to inevitable self-destruction.

    • Laura

      St Peter at the gates is most certainly not in the Bible.. It’s myth or Catholic tradition or a line in a story or comic.. IMHO Catholic tradition is a lot like the book of Mormon.. Added on rules and regulations that burden human beings and hinder their walk. Accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, read your instruction manual (the Bible) and do what Jesus said.. “Go and sin no more”, remembering that the kingdom of heaven belongs to the poor in spirit.. (Those who well understand and Jesus’ mercy and grace toward them is indeed their salvation because to go and sin no more is impossible).. Causes us to understand our true need for a Savior.. Thank you Jesus!!! No, I don’t mean do whatever you want to.. I mean realize the magnitude of what Jesus actually did for you!!

      I’m sorry but the Bible, the words of Christ and of his apostles and “saints” override tradition any day of the week.. The Bible is the instruction manual inspired by God and given to men.. ALL men.. If what some of you say is true, why then isn’t the Bible specifically directed at Catholics? It’s not. It’s directed at all who believe and adhere to and trust in Jesus, the “Word made flesh”, in which one verse comes to mind and is the most widely known verse in all of scripture.. John 3:16.. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that “”””whoever”””” believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

  • Stuart Miller

    The thief on the cross who was crucified next to Jesus did not go to church or partake in communion — but, according to Luke 23:43 was going to paradise according to Jesus, Himself.

    • Lencier Aluoch

      I doesnt matter what you do for God knows what goes on in a man heart the most deceitful of all. If one is sincere and repentant God forgives he doesn’t see what we see he sees what we do not see what we ourselves don’t realise about ourselves. He sees all knows all.

  • http://www.wirenews.co.uk Bill White

    I wouldn’t have expected anything different from a Pope – any Pope… they are the front-men of a money making organisation that ‘needs money’ as George Carlin said…

    • Lencier Aluoch

      You do realise as it has been known also they write in their encyclicals that the pope is the Vicar of the Son of God.

  • http://www.beautydelux.com Nick Nistka Scalisi-Tulipani


    They called you to this place
    the ones that once denied your existence,
    doubted your presence,
    Your words,
    meant to create
    without witnessing creation.
    They called upon you to satisfy their hunger
    for the rational and the factual.

    You offered silence.

    They moved aside the chairs and tables and began to dance,
    bodies undulating in the air,
    provoked the oceans,
    pierced the sky,
    dug holes as deep as the core of your heart.

    You stood still.

    They begged you to return,
    provide justice for the meek.
    Punishment for the prepotent,
    glory for your people.
    Bread to the hungry, water for the thirsty.

    You gave nothing.

    It was then that they invented names and fabricated stories.
    Justifying their own existence,
    Building spaces to accommodate their truths.

    Barricading themselves with books and words
    that stood high above the winds
    that had blown away the leaves
    from the branches of the oak tree.

    You were nowhere to be seen.

    At the time that it was meant to be

    A time unbridled.
    One to no one known
    by no one defined or conceived,
    it all came to an end as it all began
    from darkness into light
    and into darkness once more.

    Nothing came to be again.

    You always were.

    • David Robertson

      Interesting poem. I had a different revelation. A different answer to the same questions. Why is that do you think? He seems to speak to some and not to others. It turns out there is a reason for this. Just as there is a season for everything and a time for every purpose to be fulfilled so there is a gradual unfolding of the glory of God to humanity, all in due time. The clues are there but not everyone finds them. Why is that do you think?

  • mothman777

    Catholics just got told by a secret Talmudist that they are to submit to totalitarian one world Talmudic government, Check out how those who will run the Talmudic one world government will operate it, read the 1991 US Noahide Laws for instance, currently on statute in the US, but not yet physically effected until they can be put on statute in a militarily effective manner in as many other countries of the world as possible, with the Chabad Lubavitchers aggressively campaigning to have them in every country of the world. Those laws state that all people in the world under such government, to be centred in Jerusalem, who practice ‘idolatrous’ religions, will simply all be killed.

    Christians are classed as idolatrous, as will be Hindus, Buddhists, etc etc, read this, a mass Bolshevik-style slaughter like that that which took place in Russia, brutally and ritually torturing and mutilating 66 million Christians to death, is what is coming;

    Bill Dannemeyer
    U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

    • killmekillme

      Then let them kill me…then I get to have a really nice long sleep until Jesus comes back..and I don’t have to deal with this idiot world and its occupants

  • knelson

    The Roman catholic church is the whore of Babylon…

  • http://www.imowired.com IMOwired

    He’s a Globalist and I don’t care for him. Lots of Catholics call him the Anti Christ. But I got the impression he not telling people not to believe in Jesus, but that they should only do it through the middle man-the church. Which is of course ridiculous.

    • Lencier Aluoch

      And you wonder how the tower of Babel was built.
      People came together by all logical reasons for a good cause because they were preserving mankind so they decided to build a tower to mitigate any flood if God decided to wipe out mankind from the face of the earth. They wanted to build it unto heaven.
      If that isn’t rebellion I don’t know what is.
      It is said the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
      The bible clearly states Friendship with the world is enmity with God-James 4:4
      Psalms 37:12,14
      Good and evil cannot coexist and so righteous cannot coexist with wickedness for this reason the first persecution began when Cain slew his brother Abel and it went on during the time of Samuel as seen in 2Samuel 4:11. It worsed during Ahab’s time where his wife Jezebel slew all of Yahweh’s prophets and replaced them with baal prophets during the time of Elijah. True prophets are seen by the world which is represented by Israel and government represented by Ahab asking Elijah are you the one that troubles Israel?1Kings 8:17
      So wickedness obliterates righteousness for it condemns it. and so it has been and this controversy will not end tilln Jesus comes and separates the wheat from the tares and throws the tares into the furnace so shall judgement be.

  • Roger Culver

    Same idiot that said God and Allah are the same. He needs defrocked.

  • Joshua Grace

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” 1 Timothy 2:5
    There is no pope, no priest, no cleric, no creed between you and God, only Christ Jesus.
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
    Through Christ alone do we have access to the throne of grace to find mercy and help in time of need.
    This pope, as all popes, seek to block your access to God, by inserting themselves as middle men. Damn them.

    • yep tru dat

      umm yep….. that about sums it up

    • Lencier Aluoch

      “One common mistake we often make is whe one hears the word anti- which is a prefix meaning ‘in place of’ so, anyone who is considered anti-christ is one who takes the place of Jesus where is supposed to be. Anti christ must not necessary oppose Jesus but he can also place himherself in the role or place where Jesus occupies in that he or she overrule the authority of the former which in this case is Jesus and therefore assumes authority which is excusively Jesus’. like mediation between God and man is exclusively Jesus as stated in the Bible – 1Timothy 2:5.
      We are allowed to pray for one another but the channel has not changed, it is still through Jesus that it gets to The Father. It is because Jesus’ atoning blood that cleanses us from iniquity and give us a new heart as Paul states it is not I who lives but Christ lives in me hence desire to do the will of God hence live godly and righteously in His favor therefore righteousness inputed in us is not our own but that of Jesus hence we become heirs of salvation in which blood was shed once and for all for all mankind.Romans 3:25; 5:9
      Ephesians 2:13 Colossianx 1:14-20
      Hebrews 9:22-28 Hebrews 10:12
      Romans 6:10”

  • Leo

    Truth? Why do you lie then Mr. Dmitry (writer of this news)? He didn’t say that at all. He said: “if u are a believer and you said to yourself, I dont need the church I only need Jesus, then it is dangerous and harmful.” Why would you say he said that relationship with Jesus is harmful and dangerous? Shock news? You wanted attention? It only hurts you, and your credibility, and people believe your misinformation, and the lie spreads. Shame on YOU!!!! I am protestant, was a catholic…but came to my senses. I am disliking you from my facebook .

  • Ultra7

    What a blatant POS , misleading article! This is the kind of yellow journalism that keeps indie news down!

  • WG.Peter

    The Church without CHRIST is something that the building have no foundation which will collapse at any time therefore, what CHRIST said in Matthew 16:18 is that Peter without the Holy Spirit or CHRIST is Simon which means it will collapse. But, CHRIST made Peter with the Holy Spirit therefore, the Church, JESUS built on Peter is eternal that can’t be destroyed, the question now, is that the Roman Catholic Church is the Church CHRIST built? Certainly not b/c the Church was built on Peter who was the Witness of CHRIST b/c the Holy Spirit was in-dwelt him, whereas the Holy Spirit do not indwells in Pope Francis, therefore Pope Francis is not like Peter the Apostle.

    CHRIST made it very clear before His ascension to the Apostles and Apostolic peoples that they must be WITNESSES of CHRIST in Acts 1:8, thus, if any Christian is a believer then he has to realise the need to become a witness of CHRIST as the Church was built among the witnesses back then and even now but there’s none to be a witnesses prior to the return of CHRIST except TWO as mentioned in Revelation 11 who are called as SOME in Matthew 16:28.

    Therefore, if anybody receive the HOLY SPIRIT into their physical body in these days that means prior to the return of CHRIST then the Church that CHRIST built on Peter will become reality among these TWO as these TWO can’t be destroyed until an appropriate time comes but before that they testify CHRIST through out the world. When these TWO people receive the Holy Spirit into their physical body then the Matthew 16:28 will become fulfilled and the ministry of the early Apostles shall be accomplished by these TWO so as to prepare the way for CHRIST to return.

    Unfortunately, the Christendom is in false when comes to the word of CHRIST in regard to the end of the world. However, there’re TWO people who have already received the Holy Spirit but the thing is that the world hasn’t come to notice yet but at an appropriate time they shall be recognised by the world and that the count for the climax of this world shall begin, thus no more left.

  • David Robertson

    I suspect that when he said the “Church” most of his listeners would understand him to mean the worldwide Roman Catholic institution since he was addressing members of that institution. This is not however the scriptural meaning of that word. The original word in Greek is “Ecclesia” which means simply an assembly of “called out” people. In the Christian context it means those who are “called out” of the world to join in a permanent exclusive relationship with Jesus Christ to follow Him. They are also known as the “Body” of Christ of which Jesus is the Head.

    This “Church” has over time evolved from its early incarnation in the times of the apostles, into the disparate denominations we have today which have replaced Christ as the Head of the Body with the rule of men. The Pope even claims to rule as the “Vicar of Christ” or as His sole representative on Earth. In other words he has usurped the place of Christ. This was clearly foretold in the Kingdom parables of Jesus so it was expected to happen. The leaven, symbolic of Sin, has now spread throughout the whole loaf. The birds, symbolic of evil spirits, have lodged in the branches of the tree, and the tares, sown by the Enemy, are opening up everywhere to reveal their true nature.

    This is not however the final Plan and Purpose of God. He has kept a “remnant” for Himself, all over the world, who are the true Church of Jesus Christ, not housed in buildings or institutions erected by men. These “scattered children of God” assemble together continuously in the Spirit of Jesus to worship Him, unknown to each other but known to God. They await patiently the appearing of their Lord and Saviour when the Morning Star will arise in their hearts and He will be manifested in all of them to His Creation, at the time of His choosing. “Look up for your Redemption draws nigh.”

  • Judy Azar LeBlanc

    He and his cult are being blinded and influenced by Satan, plain and simple — When Jesus was walking the earth, He had some very strong words for these type of “Religious leaders” — He called them a “brood of vipers,” and then said “How will you escape being condemned to hell?” (Mt. 23:33)– so if this guy and his followers don’t get on board, they will be part of the “left behind” for sure —

  • Roman Marquez

    I’m comfortable with my own spirituality, so I dont have a problem with what others believe, the king james bible says you need faith in christ, when in ancient greek it says faith of christ that translates to say you need the faith that christ had in God to reach atonement or become at one with God, i dont care how holy this pedomofo thinks he is ,to say: “America must submit to the one world government”, thems fighting words!

    • Lencier Aluoch

      The truth is we need then both in Revelation 14:12 Having faith in Jesus is not be enough to save us but having the faith of Jesus in that Jesus believed God and obey Him even unto Death so true christians when in comes to principles and doctrine we should not compromises but stand as the prophets of old, dare to be like Daniel and his friends that is what true righteousness is.

      Acts 26:18, Romans 1:19

  • pacman925

    Walk into any Christian bookstore in America and you will see how virtually everyone who calls themselves a follower of Jesus Christ in this nation has been tricked into believing a false theology, which leads them to believe, erroneously, that the Bible commands them to support the Jewish nation of Israel.

    The driving force behind this error was the 1909 Scofield Reference Bible, which was the first Bible printed by Oxford University Press that included theological reference notes that guide the reader as to how to “properly” understand, or interpret, the biblical text.
    It’s no coincidence that the rise of Zionism, that is: the impulse of the Jews to seek a homeland for themselves, began not long before the Scofield Reference Bible was published. In the late 1800’s, England is where Zionism first found political support. England was already awash with the erroneous “Christian” doctrine of British-Israelism, wherein the British Christians were taught that they were one of the lost tribes of Israel; therefore they should support the Zionist Jews venture to create a Jewish state: Israel.


  • pacman925

    In the year 1611 the Holy Bible was translated from Latin to English; and at that time the Bible contained a total of 80 books. The last 14 books that made up the end of the Old Testament were as follows:

    1 Esdras
    2 Esdras
    The rest of Esther
    The Wisdom of Solomon
    Baruch with the epistle Jeremiah
    The Songs of the 3 Holy children
    The history of Susana
    bel and the dragon
    The prayer for Manasses
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    In the year 1684 these 14 books were removed from all versions of the Holy Bible except the 1611 edition; which was the first edition translated to English. In this edition you will also find that Jesus name is not the same in fact it is spelled IESUS and pronounced Yahashua is Ishuyah; why then do we continue to call our savior Jesus, when the letter J did not enter into widespread usage until the late 1400’s to early 1500’s B.C.? Of course many didn’t know this. Did you know that these books even existed? My grandmother used to tell me about them long ago she used to say “you know Moses wrote more book that were removed from the Bible; they’re at the Library if you want to read them” but I didn’t listen til now, and I am glad that I did! I hope the Questions that I’m presenting will Encourage you to research further into this subject, and I pray that it gets you reading your Bible! Then and only then will you begin to see what they have hidden from us in Plain Sight!

    While studying the Words within my Apocrypha I came across a book called the Wisdom of Solomon; this intrigued me as I have always looked up to Solomon of course him being the wisest king ever; I continued to read this book called the Wisdom…… What I read sent Chills and shock through my body. What was I reading and how did Solomon know these things? Now I just have to share it with you. I’m not claiming that Solomon was doing evil, but he did worship other gods So….. I believe there are still some questions that need to be asked and answered.

    Wisdom of Solomon 2:1-24
    1 For the ungodly said reasoning with them selves, but not aright, our life is short and tedious and in death of a man there is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave.

    2 For we are born at all adventure: and we shall be hereafter as though we had never been: for the breath of our nostrils is as smoke, and the little spark in the moving of our heart

    3 Which being extinguished, our body shall be turned into ashes, and our spirit shall vanish as the soft air,

    4 And our name shall be forgotten in time, and no man shall have our works in remembrance, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, that is driven away, with the beams of the sun, and overcome with the heat thereof.

    5 For our time is very shadow that passeth away; and after our end there is no returning: for it is fast sealed, so that no man cometh again.

    6 Come on there for let us enjoy the good things that are present: and let us speedily use the creatures like as in youth.

    7 Let us fill ourselves with costly wine and ointments: and let no flower of the Spring pass by us.

    8 Let us crown ourselves with rosebuds, before they be withered:

    9 Let non of us go without his part of our voluptuousness: let us leave tokens of our joyfulness in every place: for this is our portion and our lot is this.

    10 Let us oppress the poor righteous man, let us not spare the widow, nor reverence the ancient gray hairs of the aged.

    11 Let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble is found to be nothing worth.

    12 Therefore let us lie in wait for the righteous; because HE is not of our turn, and HE is clean contrary to our doings. He upbraideth us with our offending of the law, and ojecteth to our infamy the transgression of our education.

    13 HE professeth to have the knowledge of the MOST HIGH, and calleth HIS self the child of the LORD.

    14 HE was made to reprove our thoughts

    15 HE is grievous unto us even to behold, for HIS life is not like other men’s, HIS ways are of another fashion.

    16 We are esteemed of HIM as counterfeits: HE abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: HE pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh HIS boast that GOD is HIS father.

    17 Let us see if HIS words be true: and let us prove what shall happen in the end of HIM.

    18 For if the just man be the Son of THE MOST HIGH, HE will help HIM and deliver HIM from the hands of HIS enemies.

    19 Let us examine HIM with despitefulness and torture, that we may know HIS meekness and prove HIS patience.

    20 Let us condemn HIM with a shameful death: for by HIS own mouth HE shall be respected…..

    Now this left me with some serious questions like:

    What righteous man was Solomon speaking of killing with a shameful death?
    Why did the Vatican vote to have these 14 books removed from our Bible?
    Why did Solomon sound so evil in this book?
    Did you know that Solomon wrote a number of books that were not included in the Bible?
    I can go on and on, but the question is just: WHY did they remove these books?

    Well I have a few possible answers to the questions that I have asked:

    In my opinion Solomon is speaking of our Savior…. Who else could he be speaking of plus the similarities surrounding the crucifixion are just to similar to ignore…. So you think that Solomon was wise enough to prophesied something that happens 931 years after his death? Okay lets compare:

    They killed the SON with a shameful death
    The SON’s actions or fashions were different from everyone else’s
    HE claims to be and IS the child of The MOST HIGH
    Righteous poor man
    HE professeth to have knowledge of The MOST HIGH
    Then Solomon even knew What the Savior said to the people in the Temple ” HE esteemed us as counterfeits: HE upbraideth us with our offending of the law. ( Remember when the SON flipped over the table in the Temple and said that they had turned it into a den of thieves, sounds a lot a like)
    Then listen to what Solomon has to say:

    HE was made to reprove our thoughts
    We are esteemed of HIM as counterfeits: HE abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: HE pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh HIS boast that GOD is HIS father
    For if the just man be the Son of THE MOST HIGH, HE will help HIM and deliver HIM from the hands of HIS enemies. ( This is what was said directly before HIS crucifixion)
    If there is no truth to this, How did Solomon know Exactly the How, What, Where, When and even the words used while the Savior was on the cross? I have always admired Solomon as a wise ruler….. but something is off here!

    I am a believer that the folks in power are just Big Fat Liars, including the pope and whom ever approved the Bible without the Apocrypha! I know that they removed these books in order to keep us Ignorant of the Truth! Even though they hid it in Plain Sight! Just one More thing….. SOLOMON NEVER EXCLUDED HIMSELF AS ONE OF ungodly PEOPLE THAT HE SPOKE OF!


  • veggiegrrrl

    climate change is real and humanity is facing catastrophic collapse leading towards extinction.

    • Lencier Aluoch

      Why are you surprised Jesus prophesied these in Matthew 24:15-30 Mark 13:2-37,Luke 21:6-28
      Destruction of Jerusalem 70 AD
      False Christs, false prophets
      Wars rumours of wars – just check headlines of today even of this week
      Earthquakes in diver places- frequency of earthquakes in USA has increased, China etc
      Nation against nation- these are ethnic clashes, terrorism, hate speech etc
      Kingdom against kingdom- North Korea just dropping nukes threatening to nuke areas these are just but a few
      Hearts of men failing we areliving in constant fear you could be killed today- crime has increased enormously.
      Economy is unstable this is actually causing worldwide panic
      Natural disasters have increased.
      Diseases have increased in that diseases are shifting from animals to man so treatment is hard or impossible.
      Famine has increased tremendously in that it is reported to be the worst crisis ever in the last 100 years or so.
      Jesus still encourages us the end is not yet but it is the beginning of sorrows and He also tells us our redemption draweth near.

  • Jeff Brown

    Nothing the “Church” hasn’t said for thousands of years.

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  • Barbara E. Ward

    I read his biography. He was a liberal before becoming pope and still is very liberal in his thinking and his interpretation of the Bible. This may be a fake article but I would have no problem believing at least some of it if not all, is true!

    • Lencier Aluoch

      so true thus the bible fulfillment in Rev 18:2
      Everything is now acceptable in churches today at times I’m horrified and at times you wonder where did we go wrong? When did we stop worshipping God and started worshipping mammoth? Have you read the 7 message Christ gave to John to give to the & churches the last church Laodicea represent the current Christanity of this present day and age hence the last church period then the end of the world. Nowhere in history has the gospel been widely accepted and bible prophecies been understood in any time period other than this one and neither has ther been tremendous technological advances than in this present century and also neither in any time period has majority of end time prophecies as writted in the Bible been fulfilled as this current time period. So the early church during Pauls time seems hopely than this present time but remember corrruption started creeping into the church during the time of the apostle which Paul clearly warns in 2Thessalonians 2. And as time went by the standard of morality has been lower than the previous generation. What was considered unacceptable is now widely accepted. If you remember bible history you must be aware of the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah as recorded by Moses in Genesis. They did such evil in the sight of Yahweh that God sent fire and brimstone to wipe then from the face of the earth and also the Antediluvians they were wiped from the face of the earth during the time of Noah why because they had perverted the gifts God gave then to do evil. And also doesn’t our day and age typical like that of the preflood or that of Sodom and Gomorrah? The evil of this time supercedes that of their time.It is at such times you realise the state of fallen man is worse since Adam’s time and more debased. It is at such moment you realise the vitality of having a Saviour that is Jesus Christ who opens our eyes so that we see clearly our wretchness and helplessness and inability to resist sin.

  • Ron Hussey

    Has the anti Christ arrived ?

    • tank2

      The anti Christ has been with us all along. It is the papacy.

  • Elizabeth Townson Crowe

    1 John 2:26……I have written these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. 27..And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught. 28…And now, little children, remain in Him, so that when He appears, we may be confident and unashamed before Him at His coming.…

  • Mike Gleason

    This pope is a lunatic. It’s only through a relationship with Christ that we can see the Father and be in heaven.

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  • Pastor Share

    Tthe pope is an egnigm wrapped up in a lie

  • Bob M

    The sword of scripture clarifies: Jesus in Matthew’s Gospel, Chapter 18: “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”.
    And in John’s Gospel, Chapter 14: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a950ed1e130628edb3be3b031d0539ad84f5645ad126a935696d590ea392c2d.jpg

  • http://foxmuldar-conservative-thinker.blogspot.com/ Foxmuldar

    Francis has pandered to Islamic extremism since he took the position of Pope. He’s fully into the flooding of Muslim savages into Europe and he’d love to see the gates open for Millions of them to be allowed into this country. There’s plenty of proof if you take time to look to see what evil man this Pope really is. He’s either evil or brainwashed. He’s clueless when it comes to the evils of Islam. And how many of the so called refugees has this Pope actually taken into the huge vatican city?

  • Laura

    I’m sorry but the Bible, the words of Christ and of his apostles and “saints” override tradition any day of the week.. The Bible is the instruction manual inspired by God and given to men.. ALL men.. If what some of you say is true, why then isn’t the Bible specifically directed at Catholics? It’s not. It’s directed at all who believe and adhere to and trust in Jesus, the “Word made flesh”, in which one verse comes to mind and is the most widely known verse in all of scripture.. John 3:16.. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that “”””whoever”””” believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

  • Stop spreading Fake News

    Not what he said at all. No one believing this article actually watched the video.

    Pathetic deceptive journalism.


  • sojorrn

    I’m no big fan of this Pope but he was making a pitch (Watch the Video before you comment) that the Church & Jesus Christ are “One” ie; come back to the Church! I think this Pope with his Leftist leanings has chased a lot of Catholics away from the Church… Catholics that have a “Personal Love for Christ” but not the Church under the leadership of this New World Order Marxist thought! He would be better off spending the Churches wealth on the Poor & Hungry rather than a New World Order Ideology…

    • Lencier Aluoch

      did you forget he is the first Jesuit pope

  • Ted

    From what I know Popes believe they are Jesus on earth because Jesus is in Heaven. They therefore claim they can change Christianity and the bible as they please. For this reason they believe we should bow down to them only and they and the bishops and priests only that they appoint can forgive your sins. Any other way they say is apostasy.

    The Bible does not back this and calls it apostasy. Jezebel religion.

    • Lencier Aluoch

      babylonian religion

  • Mike Porro

    This guy says a lot of dumb things but what he means is a relationship outside the church thru meditation. Ask and you can’t be sure who it is that is answering

  • Pam Martin

    Nowhere in this video does it say don’t have relationship with Jesus Christ or thst it’s dangerous dangerous and harmful. what are y’all looking? The Pope says you need to be in church as well as being a Christian. that’s in the Bible, “it says forsake not the assembly” we need other Christians for strength for prayers for love for family for Community read the whole Bible then comment

  • RoggerDogger

    He’s not trying to steer people away from God or Jesus he’s just saying you have to do it through the church. I think that is total BS and the first thing I’ve heard him say that I disagree with. Of course he wants people to go through the church, otherwise why would they need the church. Most religions have some type of control they want over people. But in many cases being a part of an organization has benefits too. You can see how even a group of friends can enhance your life and make you smarter and wiser by communicating and learning from each other. With a church and hundreds of years of collective experience you could potentially learn a lot. But on the other hand you could more likely be controlled if you are not smart or wise enough to know the difference. The truth is God is within you and within everyone. You don’t need anyone to help you if you can actually do it yourself. But it’s not easy and many people lack the ability to do so. BUT the goal of any religion should be to teach you how to find your divinity within. Once you find it it is yours and no one else’s. We each have our own individual connection to the divine creator of the universe and all things seen and unseen. That is what religion should be teaching and how to find it. Not some blind allegiance to some religious doctrines. ‘Nuf said for now.

  • Shadi Khalife

    Jesus asked the people to be the church; He didn’t ask us to follow a church which neglects His teachings, and throughout History it came out with a lot of doctrines that contradict the Bible, the word of God.
    The Catholic Church isn’t acting according to the NT teaching of the Bible which asks us to have one mediator, Jesus Christ!

  • Krissy Fraze

    We are the church,our bodies is the temple for the Holy Spirit to live in , we the church make up the body of Christ with Jesus being the head , we have to be connected to the body producing fruit , if your not connected to the body producing fruit you will be cut off , Jesus said he is the vine we are the branches , he that Adideth in me and I in him the same bring forth much fruit for without me you can’t do nothing , if a man abide not in me he is cast forth as a branch and he is weathered and men gathered them and cast them into the fire and they are burned , if you abide in me and my words abide in you ask whatever you wish and it will be done for you , my father is glorified by this that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples , we are nothing without Christ John 15:5-8

  • Clarence Moxley

    Do not Daniel’s (7:8,20) and Revelation’s (13:5,6) prophecies both refer to his “mouth speaking great things”?
    And does not the PROTESTANT REFPRMATION need to be vigorously revived and renewed? Where will it start?

  • nk sperling

    Being a Jewish follower of Messiah, of the Lamb makes this all very interesting because when I read the scriptures NT, of course I read it thru the lens of the, what “you” call the OT and we Jews call the Torah or the expanded understanding the TaNaK(Moses and the Prophets Luke 16:31). Moses and the Prophets were the only scriptures that existed at the time. There was no NT publicly available until approx. 400 yrs. later.

    So when, within the NT, references are made to “the Scriptures” it was as “you” call the Old Testament which I guess as a Testament wasn’t all that “OLD” at the time and never has or will be…And just like Rabbi Yahshua IS, the Torah made Flesh. The torah/ the song of Moshe IS THE SAME yesterday ,today and forever..Hebrews 13:8 (eg. it is the “OT” that is the “ALL SCRIPTURE” is given by inspiration, profitable for making sound doctrine and instruction in righteousness/right living))

    As a torah-observant Jewish follower of Messiah, washed in His Blood Rev. 12:11, it is more than just a little befuddling to watch you, all carry on with your comments ( watching lovingly of course) (and unpatronizingly because, like you “all” again am simply a wretch WASHED IN His BLOOD Romans 7:24, you know the saved/righteous are barely saved 1PE 4:18, ie. we are all still WRETCHES)

    Anyways, what I am watching being played out again and again and this has been going on for the last 2000 years, is what the Rabbi, the Torah made Flesh Acts 7:38, was talking about in Joh 4:22 and that is “You worship you know not what: “WE KNOW” what we worship: for (Eternal and daily) salvation is of the Jews.”

    Basically “you guys” still do not know what you worship and by extension do not know what you are talking about, show some humilty and “take hold”(inference being “and hang on.”) as it illustrates in Zec 8:23;

    “Thus said יהוה of hosts, ‘In those days ten men from all languages of the nations “take hold”, yea, they shall take hold of the edge of the garment/tzitzit of a man, a Yahuḏite1, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard/schma that Elohim is with you.” ’ ” Footnote: 1) John 4:22.

    And all of you know these are those days, and know that Zec 8:23 is a prophetic invitation to “take hold” and “come along” because you have now heard/schma that YHWH is with us. Obviously it has to be those members of the tribe of Yahudah/Judah who guard His Commandments and possess the witness of Yahshua Messiah Rev. 12:17

    Shalom Shalom to you all, its all Ahava/Love…Torah Love James 1:1

    2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

    Rev 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Elohim and possessing the witness of יהושע Messiah.

  • John New

    I don’t know why I bother to comment on Disqus. I just had over 2 years worth of comments deleted by Disqus over many many websites. I don’t ever attack anyone. All of my history on Disqus was wiped out – word to the wise: Don’t invest anything important in Disqus. Find your own way to propagate your message. People who disagree with you on Disqus will simply remove all you’ve done without notice.

    That said, this article is simply another hit job on Pope Francis by a Leftist author. There’s a lot I don’t agree with coming from this Popes mouth, but he has not once changed church teaching.

    He said, basically, a person attempting to have a relationship with Jesus Christ without the mediation of the church (church teaching, magisterium, Holy Tradition, absolution, reconciliation, etc, etc) is dangerous. It is. No person on earth can grant absolution, except a Catholic priest. No church has apostolic succession, except the Catholic church. No church has maintained Christ’s teachings, except the Catholic church. No person can interpret Holy Scripture for themselves without serious risk. What he’s saying is, you shouldn’t go it alone – you’re risking your salvation in a big way because you’re vulnerable and prone to err. He’s 100% correct.

  • mot

    the only thing a pope is good for is modeling those stupid looking party hats they all wear, catholics better wake up and do a little research on what that cult religion is really about,i thank Christ for the day he delivered me from that false religion…..

  • Lesley Barrett

    Sounds like he fears for himself and his flock from Islamic retribution, what a coward.

  • faxxmaxx

    I was taught the church are the believers, not a sect or building.