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Two People Connected To Flint Water Investigation Found Dead

Two Flint water investigators have been found dead under suspicious circumstances

Two people who were connected to the Flint water company investigation were both found dead in the space of a week this month. 

Water Treatment Plant Foreman, Matthew McFarland, and the woman leading the lead poisoning suit, Sasha Avonna Bell, were found dead within days of each other.

Vigilantcitizen.com reports:

The Flint water crisis began exactly two years ago, on April 2014, when Flint changed its water source from treated Detroit Water and Sewerage Department water to the Flint River – to which officials had failed to apply corrosion inhibitors. Almost immediately, Flint residents complained about the water’s color, taste and odor. In the following months, numerous water issues arose, with little to no governmental action to fix them.

  • August and September 2014 boil-water advisories were issued by the city due to coliform bacteria detection
  • On August 21, 2014 test showed the city’s water tested high for THMs, a chlorine byproduct of disinfecting water, with which long term exposure has been linked to cancer and other diseases.
  • Though the city stated that the water was safe, the employees of the Flint Public Library declared the water undrinkable after noticing that the water from the faucets and toilets was discolored.
  • On March 2, 2016, it was reported that the state of Michigan blocked Flint from returning to Lake Huron water from the Detroit water system when it agreed to grant the city an emergency loan of $7 million in April 2015
  • It was discovered that the high levels of lead were due to orthophosphate being omitted from the water treatment process, while using a pH of 7.4 and that the orange water was due to the high concentration of chloride in the Flint River water, which caused excessive corrosion of the cast iron mains pipes.

Far from taking decisive action, governments denied that the water was toxic.

While the local outcry about Flint water quality was growing in early 2015, Flint water officials filed papers with state regulators purporting to show that “tests at Flint’s water treatment plant had detected no lead and testing in homes had registered lead at acceptable levels.” The documents falsely claimed that the city had tested tap water from homes with lead service lines, and therefore the highest lead-poisoning risks; in reality; the city does not know the locations of lead service lines, which city officials acknowledged in November 2015 after the Flint Journal/MLive published an article revealing the practice after obtaining documents through the Michigan Freedom of Information Act.
– Robin Erb, Flint doctor makes state see light about lead in water

The net result is that over 10,000 children (mostly Black) were exposed to water contaminated with lead. Lead poisoning has devastating effects on the brain:

Childhood lead exposure causes a reduction in intellectual functioning and IQ, academic performance, and problem-solving skills, and an increased risk of attention deficit disorder, aggression, and hyperactivity. According to studies, children with elevated levels of lead in the blood are more likely as adults to commit crimes, be imprisoned, be unemployed or underemployed, or be dependent on government services.
– Julie Mack, Lead levels elevated for thousands of Michigan children outside of Flint

A massive investigation is now underway and lawsuits are being filed. And things are turning uglier.

Cover Up

Now that the federal government opened an investigation on the issue, news emerging from Flint are downright sordid.

First, in March, important documents went missing, the police openly admits that it was an inside job, and that the crime will most likely remain unresolved.

Days before the federal government opened an investigation into the Flint water crisis, someone broke into a vacant City Hall office full of documents related to the embattled Michigan city’s water system.

Nearly three months later, officials have confirmed that a TV went missing, but little else is known, according to the Flint Journal.

Without suspects or a firm handle on what else may have been swiped, authorities told the paper last week that the crime may remain unsolved.

No warrants have been issued in the case, but officials don’t shy away from speculative statements that stop just short of conspiracy theories.

“It was definitely an inside job,” police chief Tim Johnson told the Journal. “The power cord (to the TV) wasn’t even taken. The average drug user knows that you’d need the power cord to be able to pawn it.”

“It was somebody that had knowledge of those documents that really wanted to keep them out of the right hands, out of the hands of someone who was going to tell the real story of what’s going on with Flint water.”

Days before the federal government opened an investigation into the Flint water crisis, someone broke into a vacant City Hall office full of documents related to the embattled Michigan city’s water system.
– Washington Post, The mystery surrounding missing water files at Flint City Hall: ‘It was definitely an inside job’

On April 16th, Water Treatment Plant Foreman Matthew McFarland (who had been interviewed regarding the water crisis) was found dead at the young age of 43. Cause of death? Unknown.

Already reeling from the news of criminal charges against one of its workers in the wake of the Flint water crisis, city workers are now dealing with the sudden death of a foreman at the plant.

Water Treatment Plant Foreman Matthew McFarland, 43, of Otter Lake died suddenly on on Saturday, April 16, according to his obituary.

The Lapeer County Sheriff’s Department said a friend found McFarland unresponsive at a home in Otter Lake. There were no signs of foul play.

An autopsy did not determine a cause of death and police are awaiting toxicology reports. The investigation remains open.

“My thoughts and prayers go out to Matt’s co-workers, his family and especially his children,” said Flint Mayor Karen Weaver. “He worked for the City of Flint for more than 18 years and we thank him for his devotion and service.”

“We all have been brought together by this water crisis and we are all mourning his death,” Weaver said in a statement. “In lieu of flowers, the family has expressed they would appreciate donations to establish a fund for (his children) Vance and Ella’s college expenses.”

McFarland’s death comes as Flint’s water plant deals with news that Flint Utilities Manager Michael Glasgow is one of three men facing criminal charges in connection with the city’s water crisis.

Glasgow is accused of tampering with evidence when he allegedly changed testing results to show there was less lead in city water than there actually was. He is also charged with willful neglect of office.

Michigan Department of Environmental Quality employees Stephen Busch and Michael Prysby are charged with misconduct in office, conspiracy to tamper with evidence, tampering with evidence and violations of the Michigan Safe Drinking Water Act.

Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette’s office confirmed that McFarland was previously interviewed as part of its ongoing investigation into the city’s water crisis.
– mlive, Flint water plant continues to reel with sudden death of foreman

A few days later, a 19-year old woman leading the Flint water crisis lawsuit was found shot dead in her home. A culprit was arrested. Was he a patsy?

A woman at the center of a bellwether Flint water crisis lawsuit was one of two women who were shot to death inside a townhouse earlier this week.

Sasha Avonna Bell was one of the first of a growing number of people to file a lawsuit in connection to the Flint water crisis after she claimed that her child had been lead poisoned.

Bell was found dead April 19 in the 2600 block of Ridgecrest Drive at the Ridgecrest Village Townhouses. Sacorya Renee Reed was also found shot to death in the home.

An unharmed 1-year-old child was also found inside of the Ridgecrest home when Bell’s body was discovered and was taken into custody by child protective services. Police declined to confirm if it was Bell’s child discovered in the home.

“Sasha was a lovely young woman who cared deeply for her family, and especially for her young child,” said her attorney Corey M. Stern. “Her tragic and senseless death has created a void in the lives of so many people that loved her. Hopefully, her child will be lifted up by the love and support from everyone who cared deeply for Sasha.”

Bell’s case was one of 64 lawsuits filed on behalf of 144 children by Stern’s firm, New York-based Levy Konigsberg, and Flint-based Robinson Carter & Crawford.

The lawsuit named six companies that had various responsibilities with respect to the treatment, monitoring, and safety of the Flint water prior to and during the Flint water crisis, according to her attorneys. The case also named three individual government, or former government, employees who played significant roles in the alleged misconduct that led to the alleged poisoning of thousands of children in Flint, her attorneys claim.

The Bell case, however, played an important role in determining the future of the more than five dozen other lawsuits that were filed.
– mlive, Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing

Everything about this story is revolting and dirty facts are emerging from everywhere. However, mass media largely ignores this story. Those that do are flooded with comments about “tin foil hats” and “conspiracy nutters”. It is as if shills are paid kill that story online … or maybe that poisonous lead has already done its debilitating, mind-numbing job.

  • Dam Spahn

    Killing witnesses. How mafia. Such is life in Repugistan.

    • Carl

      You obviously have your political parties confused. ONLY the Democrats use murder as their ally to hide their corruption. By the way, you DO know that this whole lead in the water was created by a DEMOCRAT city council and not a single Republican was involved in any way, right? Oh, did you ALSO read the local news article involving all the kickbacks, graft and corruption for DEMOCRATS involved all this dirty, rotten mess? No, I guess you didn’t, or maybe you did….

      • phoenixinoz

        Carl, what are you? A Republican Snow White troll or such!

        • robot g

          get out here you dont know shit this fucking city has always been controlled by democrats.

          • anthonyadams

            This water bullshit was decided, directed, and deliberately operated by your fucking Gov. Snyder (R) and his appointees…all Republicans. The Democrats on the city council fought it and the governor over-ruled them. It is NOT a local issue but a state issue. And you’re just a Republican dumb ass; at least you have lots of company.

          • robot g

            try reading something dumbass you can start with my post…..you drone

          • DownriverDem

            No, get out of your repub bubble. Stop embarrassing yourself here.

          • GreatGrandma

            I believe that it was a local decision to save the city money. The Governor is being held responsible by the Dems because he did not discover it and stoop it. This always smelled fishy to me.

          • DownriverDem

            Gee are you the only woman living in that repub bubble? Snyder is a criminal. We are stuck with emergency managers here even though we voted to get rid of them. What did your sick repub party do then? Passed another emergency manager bill with money attached so that we the people couldn’t overturn it.
            Please stop it!

          • Eric

            You are a true DOLT ! ! ! The Governor had NOTHING to do with this!!! It was Flint’s Black Democrat Mayor and their ALL DEMOCRAT City Council that made this decision (7 of those 9 are Black). What does race have to do with this??? More than you think. Black elected Democrats killing mostly black citizens of their city,…… and Whitey is the problem??? Get a life or get educated!!!

          • featherboaconstrictor

            The Flint City Council, which had no real authority anyway because the city was being run by a state-appointed emergency manager, did not vote yes or no on connecting to the Flint River. That decision was made by emergency manager, Ed Kurtz, appointee of Rick Snyder.

          • DownriverDem

            Please stop embarrassing yourself here. Ever hear of emergency managers? Get out of that repub bubble. It’s making you brain dead.

          • frank furter

            Why don’t you learn how to tie your shoelaces….dotls like to fling around the bullshit…in order to try and prop up a political party,that since 1980 ,has been flinging around nonsense and right wing crap…this really kills me…a third rate actor,basically swung a huge amount of the Boomers,into voting against it’s own interests..that is one for the record books…have a happy..

          • William Wallace

            Hey dick… is Soros paying you by the post? He’s not getting his money’s worth.

          • Mat

            How about look how the democrats ran detroit to the ground. Looks who’s in office right now and running the country into the ground.

          • John Rogers

            That’s why the Flint Journal was known as the Republican Rag by my Grandfather a “Sit Downer” in the 50’s.

          • Eric

            Another history revisionist and a Dem who only knows how to blame Republicans for their own short comings!!!

          • DownriverDem

            You have that repub cloud disease. Please go to an urgent care clinic immediately.

          • robot g

            you have a partisan disease. Get your head out of your ass and think.

          • robot g

            what does that have to do with anything? Im sure your grandfather was reading the solidarity a democrat rag.

          • DownriverDem

            You really are an embarrassment bucko. Move on.

          • robot g

            cant argue with morons who only see democrats and republicans.

          • robot g

            haha sensor me you turd beat it turd burglar

          • robot g

            ha ha ha too funny keep it up loser

          • DownriverDem

            You get out of here. Repubs control the money in Lansing and have for quite some time. You really live in a repub bubble bucko.

          • robot g

            Im not a republican dumbass. Move along now and try reading a book or something. beat it

          • robot g

            bwahaha fool

        • Byron Shutt

          Progressive Liberal Democrats…The party of unintended consequences strikes again in Flint Mich. And true to their Alinsky tactics shift blame onto whoever is convenient. When has a Democrat EVER taken responsibility for their dismal failures? ie; Obama.

          • http://www.the-pet-butler.com Sherrie Roberts

            Let’s see….city manager appointed by REPUBLICAN governor. Get your facts straight before spouting off BS.

          • Eric

            It’s a Democrat Mayor and the nine members of the city council are ALL Democrats. Democrat fingerprints are the only ones on the Flint water crisis. It’s YOU who needs to get their facts straight before spouting off liberal bullshit talking points!!!

          • DownriverDem

            Eric, please learn some facts. They had no power. Why are you against we the people?

          • robot g

            lol why was the city mannager appointed? lol because those dumbass democrats bankrupt the city. smfh

          • Byron Shutt

            Don’t let facts like the City Council ALL DEMS approving it ALL.

          • DownriverDem

            Hey bubble boy, ever notice how repubs don’t fix things, don’t give a damn and then blame the Dems? Just look at the last 8 years. Obama had to fix the repub mess left by W. But gee, don’t let the facts kick you in the butt. So glad President HRC will continue what Obama started. You better get ready. We are coming for the haters!!!

          • D!zzyd123

            Not looking forward to $hitlary Clinton. Supercilious liar and flip-flopper extraordinaire…Bernie or I’ll sit back and watch which lying flip-flopper wins…

          • B Belinda Morris

            Write Bernie in!

          • Byron Shutt

            If you call that ‘fixing’ you truly are in need of mental health vacation. I suggest a long walk of a short pier. I heard your Mom has asked you to leave her basement.

        • Phishhed44

          You aint too bright, are y’az???!!!

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Yes, Yes, Yes that is the number 1. And no i dont belive that is your IQ. I do belive you have drunk too too much flint water!

        • Phishhed44

          @phoenixinoz …copy?

        • IvanRider

          What he is, is INFORMED! If you are a Demoncrap, you may as well elect Shakespeare’s Macbeth to office.

          • DownriverDem

            What the hell bubble do you live in?

      • Kyle Michel Sullivan

        What I know, Carl, is you are flat out lying. Shame on you.

        • robot g

          you are clueless i live here and i know people who work for the water department. This entire city has been and is currently controlled by democrats.

          • Mike

            You know, except for the fact that the city council was stripped of power and a Republican appointed “Emergency manager” was given control over the city.

            … but yeah, it’s the Democrats fault right?

          • robot g

            The city council voted for the switch to the flint river. Everyone and i mean everyone who lives here knows that river is a cesspool. Yeah our governor is a fucking moron but people trying to put all the blame on him is even more stupid.

          • Mike

            Not on him, though he shares responsibility. I put the blame squarely on the EM put into power /by/ the said moron of a governor.

          • robot g

            “Water is an absolute vital service that most everyone takes for granted. It’s a historic moment for the city of Flint to return to its roots and use our own river as our drinking water supply.”

            guess who that was? It was the same guy who flipped the switch that put us on flint river water. Dayne Walling…..Democrat…Mayor…so tell me it was all the governors fault.

          • Mike

            “In late April 2014, in an effort to save about $5 million over less than two years, the city switched from purchasing treated Lake Huron water from Detroit, as it had done for 50 years, to treating water from the Flint River. The Flint River had been the designated back-up water source for years. Flint emergency manager Darnell Earley finalized the sale in June 2014 of an Eastern Genesee County nine-mile
            section of water pipeline to Genesee County for $3.9 million”

            Wanna try again? Walling wasn’t given /operating/ authority over Public Works until July 2014. In case you need it pointed out to you, July comes /after/ April.

          • robot g

            wanna try reading my post again…..those are wallings words not mine…..gtfo idiot

          • Phishhed44

            Yep.

          • Mark Hayward

            Democrats Bankrupted the City and Ran the Water systems for many decades

          • Mike

            … and yet the city wasn’t poisoned until an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican Governor (an EM that basically strips the city council of power) decided to “save money” by moving the city away from a negotiated contract with KWA to use water from Lake Huron to the contaminated waters of the Flint River.

            You know, when they no longer had control over the water systems. As incompetent as they were, they weren’t stupid enough to use contaminated water to save money.

          • GreatGrandma

            Was the appointment after the water problem surfaced?

          • Mike

            It was before. Flint had 4 “emergency managers” from 2011-2015; the crisis started somewhere around April 2014.

            From 2011 until April 2014 the city had negotiated to buy treated water from Lake Huron through KWA before switching to the Flint river.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Yes it is! Your going to tell me that one (1) Republican was so brilliant that he persuaded all those demoncraps to go along with putting lead pipes in and then they all were like yes sir, yes sir, yes sir. And then when it comes time for accountability they cover for him also. And it is social media that exsposes the truth. HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA

            The demoncraps are fillling the conversations with lies so that no one will no what the truth is,
            EDUCATE DON’TDON’T REGURGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • BC

          Maybe you should do your own research.

        • DON’T TREAD ON ME

          Lying about what, where is your PROOF, cause with out proof its just words little one

          • Dead_Mariner

            You talk about truth, yet you lap up the teabilly propaganda like a starved dog lapping up vomit. smmfh

      • FaintCryofFreedom

        Wow, Captain Obvious -get a clue.

      • Yagami206

        Kids, kids, kids. It’s not Red or Blue to blame… it’s Green. And I’m not talking about Jill Stein. The citizens of our country are being fed as fuel into the corporate-dominated engine, lubricated by our blood and sweat, to guarantee that the money machine continues to run.

      • deeno

        Ya’ll are fools. Corruption is a result of greed. Greed does not know party lines. Watch the documentary Dark Legacy. Most politicians are in it for themselves. Grow up and stop drinking the Flint water. It has ill effects on the thought process.

      • Max Dragonard

        Republican/Democrat bullshit. They’re both different sides of the same coin. Both different cheeks on the same damn ass. The big corporate money ass. The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is the speed their knees hit the floor when the big money walks in the door. That’s the only difference.

        • B Belinda Morris

          We must get Bernie Sanders…

      • Travis Jensen

        I didn’t read anything blaming Republicans. And what are you talking about Democrats use murder as our ally? You are. Ignorant in your thoughts. George Bush started a war over oil. He had been Co spiting with the U.K. for well over a year to attack Iraq before 9-11. Killing innocent people. But that’s not murder is it?

        • Mat

          Excuse me but guess who’s running the country right now and letting in terrorists at a biting rate? And who won’t do a thing about ISIS. That’s right a democrat. Democrats love to point fingers when things don’t go according to their plan.

          • Travis Jensen

            And Republicans don’t blame anyone for anything? Your ignorance must be quite blissful sitting on your throne thinking you are on top of the world and that you know everything in this world. Check yourself. You are a parrot repeating rhetoric the Republican Party has fed you.

          • Mat

            Guess who’s in the white house right now and letting in those so called refugees who’s been attacking not only our own citizens but other countries citizens who let them in? That’s right democrats. And who’s not doing anything to combat ISIS? Like I said democrats love to point fingers. I had to repeat my previous statement because liberals such as yourself you never get the point and want to combat the truth.

        • DownriverDem

          Why are repubs angry old white men?

        • D!zzyd123

          G Dubya…The cat painter and worst president EVER…

        • Carl

          I live a few miles south of Chicago and that whole town is controlled by the Chicago Democrat Political Machine. Chicago has not had an honest election since before the Civil War. On and off for years, the Chicago Democrat Political Machine has used murder, time and again, to further their collective agenda. Google it. Violence and murder has always been a part of Chicago but the two main elements where violence has always interlocked was the mobs and with the Chicago Democrat Political Machine.

      • bmarshall1

        please post a link so that we can judge for ourselves. It matters who the source is. Some sources are reputable and can be trusted while others are not. Do you understand the difference are you merely consumed by hate?

      • DownriverDem

        Oh please Carl. I hate to tell you, but you and your ilk are now in the minority. Somehow while you were living in your repub bubble, you didn’t realize that the country moved on and you will be kicked to the sidelines finally.

        • William Wallace

          wakeup dickwad…. we’re here!

      • frank furter

        See Yagami206 for a sane reference..you are a devoted fox bot..am i correct…????…or maybe you take the transistor radio to bed w/ you at night..tuned to the AM band?????…when that fatfuck Limbaugh is spreading around the filth????…am I close??

        • Carl

          Fox what? The only Fox I know is a girl by that name.

    • Phishhed44

      NOPE! That would be Libtardia…an often misguided country.

    • DON’T TREAD ON ME

      Ponder this the right wing and left wing are from the same bird!

      • Max Dragonard

        Indeed.

        (left|right) are just different cheeks on the same ass.

    • Eric

      There are ZERO Republican fingerprints on the Flint Water crisis. Are you that dumb and blind to facts or are you just a Partisan Democrat Hack???

    • DownriverDem

      Whatever you do, vote Dem in November or we will be stuck with Repubistan again.

      • B Belinda Morris

        Vote Sanders who has been working for the people his whole life.

  • Lainy

    Snyder is dirty!

  • Rolling Stoner

    The amount of blood on the hands of our “elected officials” is mind-numbing. At what point are we going to overthrow this corruption and start from scratch?

    • Phishhed44

      Nationally: Trump 2016!!!!!

      • VRod

        Trump will make it worse!!!

        • DON’T TREAD ON ME

          How?

          • Yagami206

            Electing an established corporate interest as our Chief Executive does not exactly reclaim our country from the hands of corporate interests. All it does is cut out the middleman.

          • Ines A

            Just like electing a president from an oil family with a dad who was the former head of the CIA, only served to create more challenges with oil dependency, privacy and personal freedom.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            How is a selfmade billionaire the established corporate interest? What thia Great Constitutional Republic needs is a Business Man that knows how to Negotiate, knows how to make and live within a BUDGET! Something that the current group of career politicians is incapable of doing, be it lack of will or total incompetence.

            You need proof that trump has committed these heinous acts, cause just saying so is not a case for believing your diatribe!

          • macdragonfl

            Your not self made when you received a huge inheritance. Financial sites report if he just invested the inheritance, He would be worth the same or more.

          • Tmoe

            How did he not know that? Self-made, lol!

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            I knew that but that has nothing to do with self made tard

          • Tmoe

            HAHAHAH!

          • macdragonfl

            Maybe we should deport people like this, better use of money, lol

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Yeah go ahead try that analysts said you could invest in end up with the same amount of money yeah right and then be a lot more billionaires in the world today if that was true that is just completely false and inaccurate information okay and who cares how much is wife spend on her hair as long as they had the money that’s the right it’s not your right to pick and choose what other people spend their money on when they make it if they want to spend a million dollars and a haircut if they’ve got the million dollars who cares it’s their money not yours quit trying to live off of other people’s backs

          • macdragonfl

            The point is he had to file chapter 11 during that time so no he did not have the money and it shows he is a wealthy elitist. She was doing that off of the backs of people that were loaning then money.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            So let me get this striaght. Because Trump used tools available to businesses to try and stay in business. Yes, he used loans to get there, THATS WHAT YOU DO IN THAT POSITION!

            So you are against him, logical not!

            Since we know the outcome ; Trump emerge from chapter 11 company intact and now profitable. To get there he had to pay off all those loans and settle with the crediters of his chapter 11. So he was successful and your telling me that is a bad thing and all this other baseless BS. In the field of choices the only choive i see is Trump. I am not completely satisfied that he is not a plant. With that being said when I look at the rest of the field (both sides) Trump wins hands down. And dont give me Cruz, im a Texan and i lived in Austin at the time when he first came to town from New York. He is a plant! Look at his wife! Not to mention it takes 2 parents that are American Citizens when you are born to be eligible. And Marco sorry dude your out to! So want to debate about what is going on in this Great Constitutional Republic?

          • David Allan Cole

            Trump is as Ignorant as his Followers!!!

          • Florida Rebel

            That’s B.S. If you can’t dazzle us with brilliance, don’t try to baffle us with Bull$hit!

          • Dave Girvin

            Sounds like trump already has…

          • Grant Wesley Parks

            Not really. How many people inherit $250M? It’s not hard to do the math. What year did he start? We can assume some investment scenarios. But I think you’ll be disappointed in your assumptions.

          • Florida Rebel

            Depending on where you look, or who you ask, DJT is estimated to have inherited $35 million according to Multi-housing Professional Magazine or between $40 million to $200 million according to faireconomy .org. How much he inherited is really nobody’s business but his and is useless as an arguing point against his presidency. I find it amusing people question this but don’t question why Obama has spent MILLIONS to seal his records and not believe the findings that the released “original” birth certificate was a fake. [Which is certainly is]. Ever hear of Photoshop? Experts have examined the document and and have concluded that is NOT what it was presented as.

          • Dave Girvin

            You can’t see his birth certificate shaking your head with your eyes squeezed shut, photo shop… lol, you ever heard of newspaper birth announcements? Or do you believe in time machines too.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Obama has not spent a single penny to seal any records, and in fact he has released a lot more of his background records than Trump has. Obama released 22 years of taxes. Trump? Zero. Oh and speaking of you being a dickless liar, what ‘experts’ exactly? Ones you just made up? Even FoxNews examined his long form birth certificate and declared it absolutely genuine.

          • Florida Rebel

            You are obviously an Obama zombie. You have shit for brains and as a true moronic democrat start calling names. Yes, I am dickless – Liar, I am not. Never can have a civilized, intelligent discourse with a Liberal. Piss off. You are not worth my time.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Interesting how you made no attempt whatsoever to actually defend your points at all. I suspect you know Obama spent not a penny to conceal anything, and are too ashamed to be an adult and admit you were lying. Either way, you certainly fail as a human. The good news is that people like you are usually too stupid to remember to vote.

          • Florida Rebel

            I don’t have to defend anything. I do the research and I’m not going to do yours for you. You are supposed to be an adult. I am ashamed of nothing but the fact that Obama was elected in the first place. I certainly have many failings, being human is not one of them. I also vote in EVERY election down to the lowest levels of local government.

          • David Allan Cole

            Fucking Pussy!!

          • Florida Rebel

            Yes, I am, THANK You. Coming from you I take that as a compliment.

          • David Allan Cole
          • Florida Rebel

            Why thank you. Coming from someone that I consider totally brain dead, I take that as a compliment.

          • frank furter

            And you,tea Party scum,live off of the back of intolerance,and bullshit reagan crap….tread on this!!!

          • Florida Rebel

            Typical liberal. Starting right in with the name calling. Why don’t you just either throw out facts or grow up?

          • Bruce Wayne

            Don’t you have a dog or a man to blow, somewhere?

          • Florida Rebel

            Thank you! You hit the nail on the head. It’s HIS money. Inheritance or working for it [which he did] is nobody’s business but his. I suppose the liberals all think they should get a piece of the pie from everybody that has WORKED for it. If Trump wants to use $100 dollar bills for toilet paper.. it is HIS right to do as he pleases with HIS money. I don’t begrudge him his inheritance nor the wealth he has accumulated either by investments or hard work.

          • catherine todd

            Florida Rebel, I am a “liberal” and have worked for every single thing I have ever had, since I was 16 years old. I have no idea why you claim “the liberals all think they should get a piece of the pie from everybody that has WORKED for it.” No one said that and what you are saying makes no sense at all.

            This discussion is about the Flint water crisis and the local government’s criminal activities in covering it up, and the damage it has done and the fact that two people have “mysteriously” died in the face of the lawsuits filed. Party politics were never mentioned.

          • Florida Rebel

            I am happy for you. I too, since the DAY I turned 16 have worked for everything I have now or had. I am sick of people talking about “redistributing the wealth”, $15/hr minimum wage, Wall Street, etc. or knocking Trump because he has money. Obviously you weren’t reading all the comments or you would not have made such a asinine comment yourself. It makes PLENTY of sense. Knock a man or question his abilities because he happened to be born into money is pretty pathetic. So far, the only thing you got right was that the article was about the water situation in Flint, Michigan. How quickly it turned to Donald Trump though if you care to check. Suddenly the topic changed from a disgusting water situation and two investigators’ deaths into a bash DJT because someone made a 3 word comment. Don’t make out like you didn’t stick your 2¢ worth and more either. Or is that another one of those “lefty” rules…. I can do it but I’m going to say something if you do it???

          • ralph newton

            OOPS.,There it is..Don’t have to “Support”,a guy to just speak common sense,but twisting dialogue to fit agenda is always on the table when the arguments weak,and the foundations crumbling under the weight of fact.”The Left”,has had eight years to set things in order,and have “accomplished”,what?.A,”Health care system”,that is costing citizens more than their private plans could charge them without blushing,and “punishing their enemies”,(That would be anyone who disagrees),according to valerie jarrett’s foul mouth,anyway..”It’s payback time”,was i believe how she put it..

          • B Belinda Morris

            What we have had for the last almost eight years is certainly NOT “the left”!

          • ralph newton

            LOL!..You mean it can get WORSE!..Well,OK,”left overs”,then.Sure to,”The Left”,of my driveway,but like assholes,opinions are something everyone seems to have at least one of..Mam..,I checked you out.Your smart.I’ll listen to what you’ve got to say.Actually more concerned,in light of the article,with this ever broadening crisis,and the attendant drama in Flint Mi.,Something smells and it’s not just what’s coming out of the tap..

          • David Allan Cole
          • Dave Girvin

            Typed like a true trump supporter…

          • Dead_Mariner
          • Bob

            thats “morans” 🙂

          • macdragonfl

            http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
            Hardly a Liberal Magazine educate yourself!

          • macdragonfl

            He also claims he worth 10 billion, Forbes and Fortune estimate his worth is between 4 to 5 billion, not very good with accounting.

          • frank furter

            Since when has money,and nude broads,make you a contender as Pres..????…

          • Florida Rebel

            Since when does being “black” qualify you as being president? Many, many black people have bluntly stated that the sole reason they voted for Obama was because he was black. They forget he had a white mother. Since when, if you are a legitimate, natural born US citizen do you pay MILLIONS of dollars to conceal all your records? I trust DJT more than anyone that has run in a long time.

          • Dave Girvin

            Obama won because he was the best candidate, and your birther nonsense proves trusting DJT makes absolutely no sense.

          • Florida Rebel

            WoW! Best Candidate? Yeah, for a firing squad. Birther nonsense? Am I ever glad that I don’t have to associate with you in any way because YOUR opinions mean less than nothing. If he was truly born in this country, do you think he would have spent millions of dollars sealing his records? including his birth certificate? Get real and start thinking and doing some honest research instead of parroting what the Obama controlled media is being paid to tell the people of this country. He didn’t pay to hide the fact that his mother was a whore, but he doesn’t want anyone to see his birth certificate? I hope you are alive when the truth comes out about what a fake obama really is. You [and others like you] are going to owe this country a great big apology. Yeah, the USA is not perfect but this is the closest you can get to perfect and obama is continuing to do his best to destroy it. Wise up!

          • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

            Really scary that they let nutcases like you vote!

          • Mary Celeste Williams

            What’s scary is you think your vote counts. Read your 12th amendment and grow up.

          • Florida Rebel

            Even scarier is the fact that you think YOU are intelligent. Bet you voted for Obama both times…. You hide behind the internet thinking you are brave. You’re not. You also were not raised right and as you don’t know the meaning of the word “respect”, you get none. And you talk about “nutcases”? Look in the mirror.

          • David Allan Cole

            Shit For Brains!!!

          • Florida Rebel

            Which is more than you have.

          • JudeM47

            This is spiraling down to childishness. Can we just be adults here, please.

          • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

            I’m not hiding from a freaking thing you are mister so so brave florida rebel. Come out fron hiding behind a stupid moniker. Put your man pants on and own your thoughts!

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Tell me what makes them a nut case cupcake

          • David Allan Cole

            Ignorance Personified!!

          • Roberto

            Please explain why other birth certificates of that time period used negro/caucasion but they have the race of his dad as African. Hint African isn’t a race!

          • Florida Rebel

            When this was first released, I immediately downloaded and pulled up in Photoshop. The damn thing was in LAYERS.

          • JudeM47

            Liar. Prove it. Put up or shut up.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Wouldn’t you have to have the original document to be able to find out if the “thing was in layers”?

          • B Belinda Morris

            Maybe because he was actually born in Africa…

          • GreatGrandma

            You do know that there was no Kenya nor Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in `1969?

          • JudeM47

            GreatGrandma, here you go. The answer is, “Yes, there was”. Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children is part of Hawaii Pacific Health’s network … In 1928, groundbreaking ceremonies for the new maternity home were held on June 28. In 1929 … In 1931, its name was changed to the Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. …. Lewis, Frances R. Hegglund (1969).

          • OUR12

            Are you stoned or just stupid?

          • Florida Rebel

            Nah, you don’t set a good example so I learned to think for myself at a very young age. My generation matured a lot earlier than yours and we were taught to question things [respectfully, of course]. Too bad you weren’t taught the same. BTW, not that I have anything against it really, but I grew up and haven’t gotten stoned since 1981 but it’s obvious you smoke something a bit stronger and probably use alcohol to wash down those pills as well.

          • JudeM47

            Who are you referring to? It isn’t clear.

          • Unchained Spirit

            Look next to the user name, and you will see a little arrow pointing to the name of who they are responding to…

          • OUR12

            I was referring to Florida Rebel.

          • JudeM47

            His birth certificate was made public. Where were you at the time? In the bathroom maybe. Te rest of us saw it.

          • Florida Rebel

            Just exactly what do you think I was referring to? Follow along.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Wouldn’t you have to have the original document to find out if the “thing was in layers”? Did you have the original document?

          • GreatGrandma

            … and you blindly accepted it even though it was proven that it was a photo shop composite and there are an number of mistakes in it. I think that Sheriff Joe and Donald Trump will get to the bottom of this as soon as Trump is sworn in.

          • eaglesfanintn

            Trump already said he had people working on it and we would be amazed at what they found. That was 7 years ago. Still waiting. But, morons like you keep believing this crap and that’s what sideshow Trump is counting on. It’s ok, you’re old and will be dead soon and the world will be a better place.

          • GreatGrandma

            You are an extremely rude and angry person. You might try working on improving that, it would improve your life.

          • eaglesfanintn

            You are an extremely ignorant person. You might try working on that. It would improve your life and the lives of any others who have to listen to you babble on.

          • Unchained Spirit

            Is that you, Donald?? LOL!! You’re having serious delusions due to your Cranial/Rectal Disorder! You have a nice talent, though. You can do a double back flip, and your head disappears right up your A$$!

          • billpayor

            Birther non-sense was started by Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump.

          • Florida Rebel

            Obama won because of multiple voting, the dead vote, intimidation by his thugs, etc. Explain how anyone can get more votes than there are registered voters. If you have 100 registered voters in a precinct, yet count 120 votes… where did the extra 20 votes come from? Amazingly enough the competition received not 1 vote? Mathematically impossible.

          • OUR12

            Put down the crack pipe.

          • Florida Rebel

            What a moronic thing to say. What’s the matter? No facts for you to throw out? Exactly.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Please tell us where this specific voter fraud occurred. I would like to know.

          • eaglesfanintn

            Just saying something doesn’t make it a fact. See, I could say that Florida Rebel is a fucking moron and without facts to back it up, it means nothing.
            Now, if I said, look at Florida Rebel’s posts and used those as proof that you are a fucking moron, that would be facts.
            Hopefully that’s clear enough for someone with your obvious dearth of brain cells. If you need me to draw a picture for you, just let me know.

          • Nordenfeldt

            What a cheap and obvious lie. No wonder you love Trump.
            Obama won 3% more of the black vote than Clinton did. 3%.
            Obama has not spent a single dime, not one red cent concealing any records. Why are so many on the extreme right such frequent, flagrant liars?

          • R. Taylor

            Because it’s all they have.

          • Florida Rebel

            Nope, can’t have an intelligent conversation with the left. No facts on from the left, just name calling. Grow up.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Typical far right troll. You threw around about a dozen insults in your post, but when I point out the FACT that you are a liar, you throw a hypocritical tantrum and play the oh-poor-martyred-me card. What a joke. And all to distract from the fact that you were too cowardly to address the facts posted or even try to defend your lies.

          • Florida Rebel

            Fact that I am a liar? According to who? – You? Hahahaha. You are a nobody too. What is a lie? That blacks stated they voted for Obama because he is black? or that his mother was white? or that he spent Millions sealing his records. Yeah, all those lawyers work for nothing. BTW, you did not present one fact.

          • JudeM47

            Because ‘black’ president, sadly.

          • Florida Rebel

            You’re really going to play THAT card? You have nothing else. I’m not even going to waste anymore time reading anything you mannequins try to put together. Obviously you have nothing because you all do nothing but resort to name calling [and I can give as good as I get, too! There is no such thing as an intelligent discourse because you do nothing to contribute to a REAL conversation and then when someone’s opinion differs from your own, you pull the race. Go ahead. I don’t care. If I didn’t like him because he was black, I’d say so. I care nothing about being PC. It’s getting old. None of you intimidate me and none of you mean a damn thing in my life so I don’t really care what you think of me. This is like trying to have a conversation with a bunch of 3 year olds. Believe me, if I had known that this was the gathering site for fish food, I wouldn’t have bothered to even stop by.

          • Sykia

            U r a fucking lie. But I can guarantee u that a lot of white ppl has forgotten that his mother was white. If that’s the case every president payed to have their records conceal.

          • Florida Rebel

            At a loss for facts are you? Don’t waste my time. Research before looking like a fool and then opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

          • JudeM47

            All of his records were made public long ago. I don’t know what world you are living in.

          • Unchained Spirit

            Run back to your own site, Conservative Underground, and cry on Missouri Woman’s shoulder some more…. you aren’t fooling anyone.

          • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

            Nevada game commission didnt deem him trustworthy enough to give him a gaming license!

          • Dave Girvin

            It worked for Clinton…

          • Jeani

            No, being a Rhodes Scholar and extremely intelligent and educated and being a repeat Governor with RESULTS worked for PRESIDENT Clinton. Trump is an absolute IDIOT!! I guess idiots like to vote for idiots, and intelligent people like to vote for intelligent people!

          • robot g

            lol trump is an idiot but murderous clintons want and have taken his money.

          • GreatGrandma

            Trump is not an idiot. He graduated from Wharton.

          • GreatGrandma

            Yes it did work for Clinto and it wasn’t even his money.

          • Ping2

            Since “Idiocracy” became the new way of government in the US.

          • MargaretEDavis

            Heck he won’t release his tax returns which would show he AIN’T as wealthy as he says. And that he is full of baloney for saying it.

          • catherine todd

            Excellent response, macdragonfl. I was just getting ready to write the same thing! Some people can’t see or accept the facts even when they are staring them right in the face.

          • Bruce Wayne

            LOL…investing a million dollars would not get you 9 billion unless you’re a Clinton

          • Roberto

            He initially started his business with a loan from his father. No, I am not a Trump supporter I just hate people spreading untruths!

          • macdragonfl
          • B Belinda Morris

            Thank you for this article.

          • macdragonfl

            Your welcome! I have no issue with someone inheriting money. Nor his father backing him and bailing him out. I do though when he misleads people on the numbers. Had he had done that with 1 million he would be considered the best business man of all time.

          • macdragonfl
          • GreatGrandma

            Donald started with a $1,000,000 loan from his father which he paid back. He parlayed that into 4 or 10 billion dollars. That is self made. That is a increase of 4 to 10 thousand times. He was fortunate in having a father who could loan him a million but he had the smarts and drive to increase it. The people who claim he could have invested it with the same results aren’t taking into consideration what is spent on living and charity, but only the pure money numbers.

          • macdragonfl
          • md

            that’s exactly the problem that happened in Flint. I’m sure that whoever was I charge of this project and had to stay “within a budget” unfortunately at the cost of poisoning 10K The Donald would do the exact same thing all to save a buck.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            You are so delusional you believe whatever you’re told by the idiot to buy politicians and you hate who they want you to hate if you had to educate yourself you to starve to death and you people are so fucking stupid you don’t do anything but listen to the fucking idiot tube and then regurgitate that bullshit educate yourself don’t regurgitate

          • frank furter

            It seems to me,according to your posts,that you sleep in a flat screen,always tuned into reality garbage…wanna bet????..am I close????

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            You don’t have a clue, cant stand that fake shit! You are just another libtard windbag

          • Dead_Mariner

            Stupid teabillies brainwashed by bullshit and still falling for it. Your Fux news millitary anylist just plead guilty to fraud becase he was a big fat FAKE, dipshit.

          • Dead_Mariner

            Exactly, idoits like him only know what their masters prograam into them on thise extremeist Reich wing propaganda sites for the ignorant and simplemeinded.

          • Florida Rebel

            Whoa buddy, before YOU call anyone an idiot, you should check your spelling, grammar and punctuation. One sentence and I stopped counting at 8 errors because it was just too painful to read. I didn’t know that that much ignorance and illiteracy could be shown in so few words but you managed to do it.

          • catherine todd

            Once again, Tread, you are describing yourself. TIME TO STOP and go have another beer.

          • Dead_Mariner

            You sound like a broken record, and are too stupid to know what facts and information are, since you’re brainwashed by Reich wing propaganda. Jade Helm!!! LOL dumbfuks

          • B Belinda Morris

            That doesn’t sound like something “md” heard on msm. That sounds like an opinion…

          • wayne

            So a man or business man who has files.bankruptcy numerous times.knows how to live within a budget?? Really ..if he were black you would have all types.of.negative shit to say about dumbass trump. And also since you brought it up..his azz is no.self.made.billionaire. Please!! He is a self.made handed to him man if anything!! Who filled.bankruptcy before getting to where he is now. SMDH

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Yes filing bankruptcy is part of business you know you not successful 100% of the time not every business it starts at successful bankruptcy is for those people that don’t want to just cut and run and dump their bills and somebody else they filed bankruptcy they reorganize they restructure their debt they paid off and they stay in business just like Donald is that’s why I say self-made

          • frank furter

            Bla bla bla,and then more low info voter nonsense..were you born under a rock!!!!..or are you just plain stoooopid….and proud of it..

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Ff your nothing

          • Dead_Mariner

            *You’re….. A stupid teabilly freedumbateer bumblefuk.

          • Dead_Mariner

            Tea tards are usually very proud of their stupidity and ease of brainwashability.

          • Florida Rebel

            It seems to me that you are the only person on here that really knows what you are talking about. Guaranteed these liberals that are so “against” money would be singing a different tune if the money was theirs and they got to the same place as Trump is now. Liberals distort facts to fit their agenda and personally, they are all jealous but don’t have the gumption to take the risks AND the responsibilities. Thank you DTOM!

          • B Belinda Morris

            Liberals are not against money, and I, for one am not jealous of Trump’s money (well, maybe a little bit). But what we want is money out of politics. Or maybe I should say BIG money out of politics.

            I think the people who are Trump fans are the ones who are jealous of his money. They’re the ones who keep bringing it up.

            This is why we need Bernie Sanders at this time!

          • BadTigz

            I don’t consider someone who learned his stock and trade…not to mention receiving funding…from his father as being a self-made anything.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Well if you don’t consider someone like Donald a self-made man then you’re an educated you’re stupid you listen to the media too much pull your head out of your ass do you even know what self-made means what are you just listen to what bullshit said you and then regurgitated

          • Grant Wesley Parks

            Ross Perot! THERE’S a self-made billionaire. Compare the careers of the two. Sorry, but Donald is a paper pusher who’s employed illegal workers as often as he could. You don’t care about integrity, either, I guess.

          • catherine todd

            Good point, Grant. I was very sorry Ross Perot dropped out of the race some years back. I think he might have done a terrific job! I wish he’d come back now.

          • macdragonfl

            And Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Sheldon Addison.

          • Florida Rebel

            I care about integrity. Anyone who knowingly employs an illegal alien has none. Anyone supporting an illegal alien in any way has no integrity. Anyone supporting amnesty for an illegal alien [who is a criminal by definition] has no integrity.

          • Dead_Mariner

            More teatard spew… smh

          • Bruce Wayne

            I heard you love “spew”.

          • liz

            It all depends on what one considers “self made”. To me my Father was self made. He did it his way. He started his own business doing what he enjoyed. He was honest and believed in living with in his means. By no standards was he rich. He was never able to afford a 747 and never cared to own one. What he cared about was family and being able to take care of them. He accomplished that. At no time did he file any form of bankruptcy. At no time was he given any hand out from anyone. At all times he tithed ten percent of his earnings to his church. He volunteered in several areas his entire life. He made enough so him and my mother didn’t need anything in their old age. He didn’t care what he was worth in money. When he passed I was amazed at how “wealthy” my father really was. Wealthy in friends and people that respected him. There were upwards of over 500 in attendance at his funeral. Our family is very small. There were people there that were very prominent in our community, people I never would have thought would take time out for my father’s funeral. I was told what an incredible man my dad was by many, I never dreamt of meeting. Now that’s being wealthy and self made. Trump is none of these things. Trump is selfish and all about his wealth. He is about how much he can make with no regards to how he makes it. He has STOLEN homes from the elderly to benefit his own wants by twisting the law to take property for the better of the community. It was for the better of the Trump wealth. Finally one elderly lady fought back and won. The judge was appalled at what Trump tried to do. Look it up and do your own research. Don’t just read what you want to read about Trump. Read it all. The man is not fit to be the President. He is self made human garbage.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Wow you talk as if you know Trump personally, so where is it that you get your information. I would like to research it and better educate myaelf so that i am not one of these Regurgitaters.

          • Florida Rebel

            So by that logic, no family member that has ever learned a trade by their father’s knee, or has borrowed even $100 from a parent/s and then becomes even more successful than the person/s [parent/s] that taught them is ever to be considered self-made?

          • Travis Urban

            Selfmade? what a joke hes a trust fund baby! Stick to a budget? Hes filed Bankruptcy what 4 times!? Trump is a scam artist and you’re the sucker same with all his followers or you like his racist/sexist/chauvinistic stances which is yet another problem that we cannot allow into our presidency!

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            You can’t just call somebody that has a trust fund not self-made when they take the little bit of money they’re giving it a million dollars okay still a little bit of money when you consider what he has today and for all those experts and see if he would have just invested it wisely he would still be worth the same yeah right show me where it’s been done like that before because you have to make perfect Investments that’s just liberal bullshit talking because they don’t want to admit the truth so again educate yourself don’t regurgitate the bullshit you stupid fucking people

          • frank furter

            Ever heard of run on sentences,and Palin nonsense???….you are a real trip I have to say..and dumber than a box of rocks..

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Do you know how a liberal admits defeat? They start attacking your sentence structure, cause they have nothing else that is factual. They can not keep regurgitating lies!

          • Dead_Mariner

            You tea tards really are stupid.

          • catherine todd

            Don’t tread on me, you wrote: “regurgitate the bullshit you stupid fucking people.” I’d say you are doing a good job of describing yourself. Maybe time to stop.

          • Bruce Wayne

            HE didn’t file for bankruptcy one of his companies did. Libtards think they are so smart because they watch Comedy Central or MSLSD between getting high or blowing trannies. They never put in the hours much less minutes searching for the truth. They blindly believe everything spoon fed to them because they are LAZY and in most cases – functional retards.

          • WatchOne

            Um, if he’s the head of the corporation then he did, in point of fact, file bankruptcy and his signature is on the forms.

          • Bruce Wayne

            Um, what an idiot !

          • WatchOne

            I agree, Donald Trump is an idiot.

          • Bruce Wayne

            Yes, controlling the border, fair trade and restricting Muslim immigration are crazy ideas.

          • David Allan Cole
          • Mark Calland

            You mean a man who inherited his wealth, his university bankrupt, casino bankrupt plus four personal bankruptcies that’s the businessman we need? I think not

          • Greg Ryan

            You’re free to vote for whomever you like; just don’t tell us why! A business man is actually ill-suited for the presidency. There’s no profit in running a government. Government exists for the good of its constituents. As to your “self-made” reasoning, check the facts.

          • Florida Rebel

            Trump, the business man, is the BEST suited for the presidency. The Government IS a business — where have you been?

          • ElGatoNegron

            According to the Constitution’s framers, specifically James Madison (The Federalist Papers, which underpins the Constitution) “A good Government implies two things: first, fidelity to the object of Government, which is the happiness of the People; secondly, a knowledge of the means by which that object can be best attained.” Most people would agree, happiness is not the goal of business. Capitalism is at the heart of business. The goal being profit. There is no constituional document supporting your assertion that government is a business. If anything there exists plenty written by the Constitution’s framers and constitutional scholars stating the exact opposite.

          • Bruce Wayne

            Let’s get some facts clear. If the “founders” envisioned a socialist country one would have been created in 1776.

          • ElGatoNegron

            I gave you facts. Complete with a quote by the man many consider the chief author of the Constitution, citing the people’s happiness (well-being) as being one of the roles of good government.. If you believe your interpretation stands more correct than his…..why argue???
            The documents written at the time, including the Federalist Papers and the Constitution, did not follow as narrow a definition of democracy and socialism as it seems many people, including you, do. But Madison predicted this. He once stated, the chief obstacle to good government would be men and self interest. He must be rolling over in his grave about now………

          • B Belinda Morris

            Provide for the general welfare…

          • Florida Rebel

            It is still a business, very poorly run, but a business just the same. I don’t pay taxes for the Idiot-in-Chief to support foreign countries that take MY hard earned money – and yours as well, that despise and wish to destroy OUR country and at the same time refuses to care for our military – those suffering the most to protect our country and freedoms. A business is supposed to take in more $$ than it distributes which is the way the government is supposed to operate. How can you spend more [for ANY purpose] than you take in? There SHOULD be a profit. Nothing – no government, business, household – can survive if it spends more than it takes in. Simple math.

          • ElGatoNegron

            The government has been spending more money that is has taken in since its inception. That’s why Franklin and Adams went to France and Holland – to borrow money. This stuff, debt, did not begin yesterday. It IS the way the country has been financing wars, capitalizing on profiteering and more since the beginning. You want to argue its a poor way to run a country, I would not disagree. Neither would the natives I imagine.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, the government CAN make a profit, but the most important aspect is to care for the citizenry. But it would hopefully do it within it’s budget.

          • Bruce Wayne

            Actually, government exists because people love to control others because they can’t control themselves.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, we have government so that we can all agree on a set of rules, so we can all be on the same page.

          • Rocky

            Trump is NOT a self made millionaire…he comes from a long line of money and a lot of the business he started actually went under

          • Florida Rebel

            YOUR error. He is a self-made BILLIONAIRE! Pea-green are you?

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Do you really understand business, cause if you did. You would know that more than 80 % fail in the first year. At least Trump had the drive and fortitude to try again.

            Unlike you libtard fucks that can only attack atemps at business ownership.

            So coming from money restricts you from being succesful or puts a black mark on them cause their family has money. How fucked in the head are you people? Do you know what discipline, respect, hard work, perseverance, determination and the mental attitude to keep trying.

            Educate yourself don’t Regurgitate

          • catherine todd

            Don’t Tread & Florida Rebel: out of curiosity, how many business have you had and how many times have you fled for bankruptcy? I’m a “liberal” and have had several businesses and all did very well. Still going strong after more than 20 or 30 years in fact. Never had any of them file for bankruptcy either. It’s not a prerequisite to being a savvy “businessman.”

            I have no idea why you are defending Trump. If he were as successful and “smart at business” he wouldn’t have these very real facts following him, would he? Why keep denying the truth and go back to what has happened to the people involved in the Flint water crisis? That’s what this article is about. Have some compassion for them, and offer some solutions.

            Instead of you keep calling people names and throwing out things that have no basis in fact or reality. Look at what the article is about: two people dead who were to testify about the criminal acts of the local government. Isn’t that enough for you?

          • Bruce Wayne

            Do you own your own 757? I think we know the answer

          • Dead_Mariner

            Please educate yourself instead of spewing bullshit from the teatard extremeist sites.

          • jelun

            Self made? Please.

          • Dina Strange

            The dude hides money in offshore …. the dude bankrupted most of his companies, put it on taxpayers and then skimmed the top. What u talking about?

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Where are your specifics?
            Educate yourself don’t Regurgitate!

          • Dead_Mariner

            Educate is what the fereedumbateers need to do, you fugwads have been brainwashed by liars, and are too stupid to see the truth even if it’s presented to you.

          • Michelle Rhoades
          • Bruce Wayne

            Hey, you skim your boyfriend every night. People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

          • Dina Strange

            Projecting self on others….good job, lover boy.

          • kidkeenan

            Why spend any more on defense when Trump can sick any of his sycophants out to attack friend or foe. Now stop me if I sound like Rupert Murdoch but is that not acting like a terrorist. Terrorist N Chief! has a soft sounding ring to it.

          • Dave Girvin

            Trump is neither “self made” or a good business man, however he is good at manipulating the “established system” to his advantage. But do you want a “leader” or a “boss”?

          • jayhearts

            Not self made. Family fortune made in a whorehouse. Racist dad gave him real estate holdings worth millions. Used eminent domain to condemn private property for his private projects. Multiple failed business’ with fake “Trump University” going down for fraud. Bite me.

          • Dead_Mariner

            Ignorant teabilly freedumbateer bumblefugs don’t have a clue about reality. The Fox new military analyst just plead guilty to fraud in federal court because he was nothing but a con man, and a liar. The bumblefugs as well as Trump are still repeating his lies because they’re morons. Really, really stupid morons, http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/051/594/d31.jpg

          • Marisol

            Trump inherited 200 million dollars. Self-made is a word that should never be used to describe Trump. He’s a people-made billionaire. He filed for bankruptcy three to four times. That means that it was our tax dollars that rescued him.

          • Bruce Wayne

            Tax dollars don’t bail out people or corporations that declare bankruptcy. The debts are not repaid. The creditors don’t get paid. Jesus, I sure hope your parents didn’t give up their hard-earned dollars so you could go to college.

          • Marisol

            Well we all learn something new each day. At least I hope so. I appreciate learning. I just hope that you one day learn that being an asshole is not necessary. You could said what you had to say without being nasty and still pretend that you were a man. But you opened your mouth and now there’s no doubt that you are not a man. Just an an asshole.

          • Bruce Wayne

            Learn to open your mind before you open your mouth. Assholes are what’s needed at this time in world history. The crazies are running the asylum. Order will be restored one way or another.

          • Marisol

            Brucey, I would tell you to suck you own dick, but I realize that you are a pastey creme with an inferior small penis, so I digress. Anywho, order will not be restored by the devils. You can truth me on that one….Be gone Satan

          • SageFeldemeyer

            Mo’ Delusion. His business ventures~A COLOSSAL FAILURE. Paying attention, Yagami? NOOOO!

          • HasaDigaEebowai

            LOL…. How is declaring multiple bankruptcies living within a budget?

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Well it is very obvious that you have never run a business! You would rather have who running? Because when i look at the five left in the race Hillary should be indicted for a host of crimes, Cruz is not a Natural born Citizen, Ribio isn’t he only has 1 American citizen parent not 2. That leaves Donald Trump and Socialist Bernie Sanders, and socialism is a failed ideology many times over so not going there. That leaves only 1 choice!

          • B Belinda Morris

            Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, as are we all in this country. And that’s why we need him now.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            You can’t be serious, we are a Constitutional Republic! If you will look back to the recent cold war adversaries; Russia (socialist) vs USA (Constitutional Republic). So tell me again cupcake that this is a socialist country.

            I doubt you even know 2 hundred years of history about where you are standing while reading this. Cause i not only know 2 hundred years of history, my family has been integral in the history of this state over the last 2 hundred years.

            Oh ok,( Liberal, but tradotional) now i and everyone else can understand the moronic view. I say that with all thought that you need help and hopefully someone near you will take pitty and open your eyes. You listen and make judgements based on political polls, FDROTFLMFAO.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Yes, we are a constitutional republic. But we are a democratic socialist constitutional republic. You know that. I don’t have to give you examples, cause you know that. There’s no reason why we can’t use our taxes to fund health care and join the rest of the industrialized world.

            BTW, I hope I didn’t make your head hurt with the definition of our country’s way of doing things.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Well i strongly disagree with you. The powers that whish to destroy this country would like everyone to believe that so. It would make it easier for them to do their destruction. What i know is that big media and our government are pushing this agenda hard. Socialism has proven to be a failed ideology, flat out it does not work! So why would you want to engauge in something when it is a proven fact that every single time it has been implimented it has destroyed the economy of said country. Wake up and educate yourself, don’t Regurgitate

          • B Belinda Morris

            What is a proven fact is that as we move away from democratic socialism, not socialism, (as our country is a democratic socialist republic), our people suffer, our middle class is vanishing.

            Our middle class flourished as a democratic socialist republic. With democratic socialism we gained work programs; highways, national parks, SOCIAL security, medicaid, many programs to care for the elderly, children, sick peopke (all kinds of sick) and those who have been dealt a bad hand in life.

            Why would you want to continue in the way that we have for the last three or four decades? The way we are going now, big money, big money interests are taking our country away from WE, the people. This is what the media is shoving down our thrats now. Because big money owns them.

            Bernie Sanders is the only one who is trying to set things right again.

            Please vote the country’s best interest! Vote Bernie Sanders.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You’re obviously not looking at all 200 years of our history…

          • David Allan Cole
          • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

            Oh please! He Is not self made! Your dad have a cool million to loan you after you got of Wharton? Really! Its his failures that ought to concern people! Starting with bankruptcies and ending with marriages, and everything in between. It will be a shameful day if Trump ever darkens the door of the White House!

          • Richard Wayne Woosley

            LOL a budget? You mean the one he was using when he had to file bankruptcy on more than one of his companies? Yeah, a true fiscal Conservative, there….And definitely the kind of person we need to be leading us…NOT

          • DownriverDem

            Look at Michigan. Snyder is the former CEO of Gateway. He and his RWNJ repubs in Lansing have destroyed our beautiful state.

          • robot g

            yeah things were so great when grandmole was our governor. i get it you are a partisan drone get lost leave the thinking to people who are not brainwashed.

          • MargaretEDavis

            They are that’s why they don’t want a darn republican in charge they only get in because the people that vote for them are the uneducated whose education has been stifled by the GOP undercutting of funds for educaiton.

          • robot g

            another partisan drone has entered the conversation. get lost please

          • JudeM47

            Who appointed you boss of this thread? Get over yourself.

          • robot g

            as we can see you have nothing to say or worth reading. beat it

          • GreatGrandma

            Sorry but you are sadly misinformed. Education started downhill when the Federal government got into to act. Those people who have been “educated” under the Federal guidelines have really been indoctrinated in the liberal agenda and therefore. You’d be surprised at the narrow slanted curriculum that the teachers are allowed to each these days and if they venture outside of it to present facts about something else they get written up.

          • HasaDigaEebowai

            Stop learning your politics in church.

          • GreatGrandma

            Who are you assuming learns their politics in Church?

          • JudeM47

            Not you I’m sure. But sadly, many people do. I know a few of them. They are like parrots, repeating by reflex what they are taught .

          • gayle collier

            Or from FOX news

          • David Allan Cole

            Dip Shit, the Feds don’t control education?? Dig your head out of your ass!!

          • GreatGrandma

            The Federal Government lays down “guide lines” that are attached to the federal funds that our schools can’t operate without in the current system. Step very far outside the “guide lines” and the Federal funds get at least partially withdrawn. That is controlling education.

          • David Allan Cole

            Uhhhhh, NOT!

          • Unchained Spirit

            “Those people who have been “educated” under the Federal guidelines have really been indoctrinated in the liberal agenda”… LMMFAO!! That’s why most teachers, who were Liberal Arts Majors, aren’t allowed to teach their own agenda, but have to follow rules set out by the School Board, which trend VERY Conservative, especially in my tiny, yet deep red, little town in a deep red State. YOU are the one who is misinformed, ma’am! The Counties coordinate with the State to set the cirriculum of turning our kids into “robots of rote”. They memorize certain things by being brainwashed with it until they can memorize and recite. They do this to keep the Federal Money flowing in via high test scores. The ONLY thing our kids are being “taught” is what to memorize to pass a test….. “If you want Power, run for Mayor or Town Council. If you want Absolute Power, run for the School Board, for therein lies the REAL Power”!

          • GreatGrandma

            The tests they are being robotisized for are required by the Federal Government. We took standardized tests all through school in the 40 and 50s but the schools funding wasn’t dependent on the results and so we were not drilled rotely for them. As soon as the money was connected to the test results they became the driving force.

          • Charli03

            Probably because your town, like mine, only had one high school, and elementary schools fed into that one school unless there was a Catholic or Lutheran option. Common core requested by the governors was really an answer but then the president liked it and it was suddenly poison and states refused to try it. It was truly a answer, teaching comprehension, making sure the students understood what they were trying to learn, the three R’s, and a curriculum that allowed students to move from state to state without falling behind. Parents complained it stressed their kids out because they didn’t know how to comprehend comprehension and teachers complained because they didn’t comprehend either!

          • GreatGrandma

            A great idea if it worked but like everything else the governments get their hands on they turned it into a rigid program with no variation. I taught for 32 years and know that teaching and learning are not rigid nor the same for everyone. Too often the Curriculum is made up by consultants who were lousy teachers and so instead of getting out of the profession clawed their way out of the classroom and now tell those in it how to teach. There has to be room for individual adaptations to suit the various students and teachers. From what I hear from teacher who are teaching now there isn’t.

          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            Parents and teachers complain because common core uses illogical (to most people) steps, primarily in math. They did this because a small percentile of students learned better this way. It seems to be a national trend to make the vast majority bend to the will of the smallest minority.

          • CMSmith

            Not so with common core – I live in a red state and schools are going downhill with this nonsense.

          • CMSmith

            You are absolutely correct! Only the liberal indoctrination does not stop with education – look at all forms of our media brainwashing our children, and the technology and Hollywood industries who support the progressive agenda by supplying money and supporting boycotts.

          • B Belinda Morris
          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            Margaret, funding for schools has stedily risen yet, students scores has continuously declined. Can you explain this?

          • nolez

            Look at this woman. Can’t even spell education correctly. LoL. Talk about uneducated.

          • Charli03

            Assuming your criteria is for someone like you who sounds very much like a bigot who is very much brainwashed.

          • robot g

            Since when do opinions matter? This is about facts that i happen to know. You called me a bigot do you even know what that means? Folks, the dumbererer in dumb is here meet sorry charli

          • Flying Dutchman ’55

            “Criteria” is a plural noun; “criterion” is what you were after.

          • http://rationalmathed.blogspot.com Michael Paul Goldenberg

            Maybe the issue isn’t as simplistic as Republican or Democrat. Hillary Clinton is a “Democrat,” and is as disconnected from the Democratic core values I was raised to respect as any Republican. She, Bill, and the rest of the “New Democrats” stole the party. They’re desperate not to give it back. And so we’ve had neoliberals and neoconservatives running the show since 1980. Sanders is the first true breath of sanity and fresh air in over 60 years.

          • robot g

            i totally agree. I just dont understand how someone can come on here and blame one party or the other when they both suck.

          • JudeM47

            So sorry for all the truly good people there. maybe it’s time to either clean house or move away.

          • Charli03

            You actually believe your own state is any better, especially if it’s a state where gerrymandering has allowed the rabid right to gain total control of the legislature like Arizona and Kansas?

          • Rick

            And the politicians who take their money are doing such a good job. Great logic.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Bernie Sanders is not taking “big money”. He’s supported by us, he’s working for us.

            Why should we vote for anyone who is working for big money and their interests?

          • BGills

            The current political landscape is dominated by individuals who deny accountability for anything they do. Oddly that is the accepted definition of a successful politician in todays politics. What they fear most is the accountability that goes with responsibility. The very same responsibility, and accountability that a successful business person thrives on, is trivialized, and deomonized by the incompetent.

          • RedMeatState

            then vote for a communist.

          • SageFeldemeyer

            HOW? HA!!! You think Demagogue-Don would do ‘anything’ to help the people of Flint? Of course not. Not to mention, he is completely and utterly unqualified to be President. Donald ONLY cares about Donald.

          • David Allan Cole
          • BGills

            How, exactly?
            If demanding accountability of government employees could possibly make things worse, then Trumps the guy to do it…
            We’ve already seen what happens when irresponsible political figures are allowed to make life, or death, business decisions… They furiously point their accusatory fingers at everybody but themselves, and then the bodies begin to pile-up!

          • css

            He’s a jerk and will continue to be a jerk in ALL ways.

          • http://www.raycabarga.com Ray Cabarga

            He’s a business man and a corrupt one at that! he works for himself that’s exactly whats wrong!!! Not to mention he is openly a racist bigot a mysogynist, and he lusts after his own daughter!!!! Where is your mind! you guys don’t happen to live in flint do you?

          • Christine

            Don’t be facetious. Trump is a hateful megalomaniac, and you know it.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Why dont you back that statement up with some FACTS! Maybe then we can have a discussion about FACTS!

        • Sparky1313

          Really? You sound ignorant and brainwashed.

        • B Belinda Morris

          But Bernie will make it better…

      • anthonyadams

        Trump will just be a much bigger part of the problem.

        • Michael w murray

          How about MICHIGAN taking care of their own problems…..

          • bmarshall1

            Michigan is part of our country last time I heard. Selfishness and greed is the only thing that you have to offer?

          • DownriverDem

            Yep. Repubs will find out in November just how much the majority of the country hates them. We are going to flush them down that drain they love to talk about.

          • Bruce Wayne

            And if Trump wins will you move to Canada and take all the degenerates with you?

          • B Belinda Morris

            According to polls, this only happens for sure with Bernie Sanders.

          • Bruce Wayne

            LOL…. Hey, I need a place to live and some money to spend. What are you offering? You’re real generous with other people’s money, aren’t ya

          • DownriverDem

            How about you having a serious heart and soul check up? What a sick comment.

          • frank furter

            How about you just go away,and dive into a bag of moonpies??….or Oreos if you prefer…I see that selfishness,is your prime motivator..just saying..

        • DON’T TREAD ON ME

          How will he be a much bigger part of the problem,

          • DownriverDem

            Trump and folks who support him hate everyone but white men who drag their women along with them. You must think the majority of voters are stupid. Wake up. We are a diverse country. You will never hold us back.

          • frank furter

            Ever notice that when an obvious Repub replies on a blog,that all the rules of third grade English,fly out the window????..This is not a recent thing w/ me..since I have had to translate the bullshit,and baloney many times..”.DON’T TREAD ON ME”,IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK,AND A “PATRIOT”,AND A JERK..all neatly piled up into one big bag of stoooopid…and bullcrap…all hail Trump and his advocates….”They know not what they do”…

          • Florida Rebel

            Spacing, punctuation, spelling. Perhaps you should re-read your own statements before posting.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Really libtard how would you know, your moma was telln me how slow your are. You can thank me later for the shoes

          • Bruce Wayne

            You’re right. You “third turders” will destroy the country all on your own.

          • Dead_Mariner

            BECAUSE HE’S AN IGNORANT MORON LIKE THE MORONS THAT SUPPORT HIM. Simple as that.

      • DownriverDem

        Hello? Only angry white men who drag their women along with them vote for Trump. Hillary is going to crush you haters.

        • Mat

          Hillary already crushed 4 Americans who cried for help. She will destroy us. You want a murderer in office who by the way is being investigated by the FBI now.

          • Shelley Johnston

            How utterly ridiculous. Nearly 100 people died in embassy bombings when Reagan and Bush were President and no one said a damn word even though there was evidence they should have been evacuated. Stevens was told not to go back to the embassy as Republicans had denied extra funding for security. He chose to go and the man who was arrested for the crime, said he led the riot because the “video.” Clinton could only do what she had the power to do. All overseas embassies received warnings and many chose to evacuate. So get off your soapbox and figure out that four previous investigations found she did nothing wrong. Gowdy’s witch hunt has made him look silly.

          • Mat

            You really are dense like those who follow her. You really going to tell me she’s innocent and yet they never did NOTHING to help those Americans? How would you feel if one of them was your family or if you were over there. They were already to rescue them until She and obama called off the rescue mission. FBI is already have the evidence collected and ready to hear back from the Justice Department to start the cross examination. You better get off your high horse and start opening your eyes and ears. Because people like her can fool the weak minded fools like yourself.

          • ElGatoNegron

            Funny, or maybe not, how you, Mat, did not deal with Shelly’s comment about Reagan and Bush. So, I imagine you will not want to deal with these truths either. 1) problems with people fleeing drug ravaged and lawless Central American countries (El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico and more) can be traced back to Reagan’s Latin American policies destabilizing the government’s in the region and using the CIA (under Bush I) to fund and profit from the drug trade. Iran Contra was jus a tip of the iceberg. North took the fall for a cushy life after. A good soldier he was. Don’t believe me, read http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html. So, as Nancy runs around the country shouting Just Say No her husband and others (remember Noriega was Bush I’s ally until he went rogue) got richer from pumping drugs into U.S. poor, mostly Black communities. 2) Even Vanity Fair has gotten into fact finding citing Bush and Cheney, and their destabilization of Iraq and Syria as the cause for the rise of ISIS, http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/04/iraq-war-bush-isis. The void the trumped up war and ensuing profiteering left in the region allowed the radical ideologue terrorists to flourish and promulgate spin-offs in other parts of the world. 3) Speaking of Bush – Katrina??? We still don’t know how many people died as a result of government ineptitude. Certainly more than four https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-hurricane-katrina/2012/08/31/003f4064-f147-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_story.html. 4) Reagan, Carter, Bush created Osama bin Laden http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/blowback.html. 5) Reagan, Clinton and Greenspan created the regulations and deregulations permitting Wall Street to gut Main Street. Here’s a wonderful read for anyone who does not believe that money crosses all political boundaries http://www.amazon.de/The-Great-American-Stickup-Republicans/dp/1568584342. The point is, while people are pointing fingers at the folks killing us and covering it up, we should all remember there’s enough blame to go around. With maybe enough left over for those of us too stuck in dogma to see these are elected officials. Or as Michael Jackson said, I’m looking at the man in the mirror!!!

          • Mat

            You’re just as bad as those who protest against Trump. And that’s how democrats minds work. When you find someone who’s a threat against their agenda you act like animals. Reagan was the last true president we ever had. Your precious obama lets in his muslim friends and look at the chaos we’re in now? Sorry but your democrats has the intention to take away the Constitution and replacing our Republic to a communist one. People like you is why this country is run down. You vote for the most dim witted ones and ones who see the Constitution as a threat. Good luck with your agenda.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Maybe you should actually respond to ElGatoNegron’s post instead of uselessly attacking him.

          • Mat

            Maybe you should know what we’re talking about before uselessly attacking ANYONE.

          • B Belinda Morris

            In case you didn’t notice, I did not “attack” you or anyone else. I just wanted you to answer the question. I’m interested.

            And who is the communist you’re talking about? I don’t know of any. Again, I’m interested.

          • Mat

            You just love to stir up the dust again. Have you not been noticing Obama’s policies? How he’s cutting the military down? How about obamacare? The worse health policy ever conceived. And its not just me either how much a failure that program is. How about the refugees he’s letting in? Did you not notice in other countries besides us these refugees attacking their host country? And yes he’s been pushing gun control laws. If you weren’t hook on mainstream media, which is controlled by liberals, you would know. I don’t understand why you support him or any liberals in office. Do you even care about your country and where its been going? Muslims now trying to place their Sharia law on us and obama stands their acting like nothing is happening. Yeah that’s the communist I’m talking about. Then he placed these so called common core on schools dumbing down kids. Political correctness has never been out of control till he got into office. This whole nation is in a uproar. Never have any generations ever let the government get out of control at this level. So how much more proof you need to understand that our country is going to hell at a very fast pace? How much more? You seem to be stuck on one issue and not seeing the other side.

          • B Belinda Morris

            What issue are you talking about? And where is the sharia laws you’re talking about?

            The whole point of my post was, WHERE are these gun laws you’re talking about? Obama is aimost out of office and y’all still have your guns. There are no harsh gun laws. There are no sharia laws anywhere.

            This is all pretend stuff you’re talking about.

          • Mat

            Let’s see look up Michigan City allowing Sharia Law. Now their trying to do that in Texas. Funny I know more about this than you. And why is that? Because I care more about what’s going on here than caring about yourself. How about look at California for those gun laws to start with.

          • B Belinda Morris

            I live in California. We have plenty of guns, believe me!

          • Mat

            And you have the most strictest gun laws in the nation and yet that didn’t stop that shooting that happened in your state not too long ago. How that work out for you? Still think this government cares about you?

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, I don’t think my govt cares. I never said I that, did you think I said that? But that just shows you that our “harsh” gun laws are not that harsh.

          • Mat

            Not matter how harsh the gun laws are their not ever going to prevent things like that ever happening again. You think criminals will obey the law? I believe everyone should have a gun to protect themselves. And stop this legislatures from taking the 2nd Amendment away from us. Oh by the way, its more than just guns in the 2nd Amendment which what makes this corrupt government scared. Do you know what it is?

          • B Belinda Morris

            N8body is taking the 2nd ammendment from you. You are listening to crazy people. You need to learn to figure things out for yourself and stop listening to whoever is feeding you this nutty stuff.

            Who you need to be afraid of is big money. They are taking your country away from you. Big business and corporate interests aes running this country into the ground and won’t be happy til they own everything, including you.

            You gotta keep your eye on the prize and stop with this 2nd ammendment and sharia law balony. Tjis is how they are distracting you from what matters. You gotta wake up!

          • Mat

            First look at this for PC: http://www.debate.org/opinions/does-political-correctness-do-more-harm-than-good

            Secondly look at this for 2nd Amendment: http://www.survivopedia.com/obama-attacks-our-second-amendment-rights/

            You are blind or deaf aren’t you?

          • B Belinda Morris

            “Rumor has it”, “semi-secret”? Give me a break. How about some facts?

          • Mat

            Fine look at this one: http://www.infowars.com/attack-on-second-amendment-analyze-obamas-speech-contest/

            Funny how much I continue to provide you the facts and yet you think its a joke and continue to defend this government. Continue to sleep because one day when you actually wake up it’ll be too late. And funny how over 50% of the country say the same thing.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You keep providing me OPINIONS. Those are not facts. If I thought it was a joke, I wouldn’t be answering you. You are not offering facts on most of your posts. You are showing me people’s opinions. Btw, the videos “do not exist”.

            What have you changed in your life? Do you really not say “merry xmas”?

          • Mat

            You keep proving my point how asleep you really are and don’t understand where our nation has been heading to. I offered you so many facts you still want to deny it? Yeah you are most likely a liberal because that’s how liberals think. Keep sleeping. Makes the government more stronger to rule over the weak such as you. I say Marry CHRISTMAS. And not “x-mas”.

          • B Belinda Morris

            I keep giving you facts, but some of us just can’t learn. And I feel sorry for you.

          • Mat

            What facts? You keep giving me your BS opinions that has no valid points of any kinds. Please provide me these “facts” of yours.

          • Mat

            Be warned because this says something about you and all those like you: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/366691594629373871/

          • B Belinda Morris

            Exactly! The ignorance that you’re showing keeps you in the dark. You are going on and on about things that don’t matter and OPINIONS of people. You need to look at facts, not how some people FEEL about things they don’t like.

          • Mat

            Umm its you who’s the ignorance. Like I stated I provided you the facts, You provided nothing but BS. I had the facts to back my opinions up. So keep sleeping there.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Again, no you are providing me opinions. And everybody has an opinion. They are just not that important.

          • Mat

            Yes everyone has opinions but there’s a difference between opinion and facts. Fact I provided you and you disputed thinking everything I have provided proved your “opinions” wrong.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, you’re just arguing with me. This is of no use.

          • Mat

            I’m not arguing when I provided the facts for you. Its you who needs to accept these facts and apply them to your own arguments which pretty much makes your whole line of arguments void and invalid.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You’re not only arguing, now you’re just getting boring.

            Troll boss not getting her money’s worth…

          • Mat

            No its you who’s trolling. You keep going on and on and on. With complete pointless opinions that compare to the facts I provided and yet you had none. Kid you don’t know me which shows your ignorance level like a true liberal that you are. Thinking I’m a girl. And what money? Its you who won’t get those facts into your thick skull head.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Now you’re just repeating what I’ve said. That sort of thing just doesn’t work.

          • Mat

            You really need to look at yourself more. You think I’m repeating? You’re like a parrot you say only what you learned. Like sander supporters because they really have no nothing to say.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Now you’re just funny…

          • Mat

            You’re a sad person.

          • B Belinda Morris

            People generally say what they’ve learned. Have you said anything you have not learned? Silly comment.

          • Mat

            Now who’s being a troll. You love to stir up the dust again do you? Just like how a liberal would.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You paid guys just love your talking points…

          • B Belinda Morris

            More diamissivness, oh well…

          • Mat

            Like I said now who’s being the troll. Thank you for proving my point that liberals like you have nothing better to do.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Just an observation. If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen…

          • Mat

            Its not an observation. You keep stirring up the argument. Guess what you are the troll.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Of course it is, I observed…

          • Mat

            Again its not an observation. You proved that you are a troll. Nothing more. Nothing less.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You’ve been so dense, you’re al dente

          • Mat

            Only dense one here are liberals like you

          • B Belinda Morris

            BTW, which arguement?

          • B Belinda Morris

            I came, I observed, I commented…

          • Mat

            Its not an observation as you continue to stir up the dust.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Try something new, this isn’t working

          • B Belinda Morris

            Stanley.

            Which argument of your many are you referring to?

            If I observe it, its an observation. If you want to change the the meaning of the word observation, get in touch with Miriam Webster, not me.

          • Mat

            Again its not an observation when you keep stirring up the dust.

          • B Belinda Morris

            I get it, end of the shift…

          • Mat

            Now you’re just spewing random nonsense.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Wowee, touche! *snicker*

          • B Belinda Morris

            I didn’t say you were a girl…

          • B Belinda Morris

            Duh…

          • Mat

            So really you are agreeing with me about your opinions are wrong then against the facts I provided.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Again, duh…

          • B Belinda Morris

            Also, thank you for “proving” me.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Back atcha!

          • B Belinda Morris

            This PC link is OPINION, not facts. Yeah, if you dont like gays, you are a homophobe. That’s what a homophobe is, someone who doesn’t like or is afraid of gays.

            The thing is, PC is a way of protecting you. So, if you are PC, you are less likely to offend someone. So they won’t be mad at you. No one can help it if your opinion offends someone. You have to take it up with the guy you’re offending.

            It’s not OK to make jokes about people’s gender or their religion. But it’s not against the law. If you hurt someone’s feelings, you have to deal with their reaction.

          • Mat

            How about this: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/you-could-be-fined-250000-dollars-if-you-offend-a-transgender-woman-in-new-york-city

            Still think PC protects you? If you don’t like a certain person you can be fined.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Why would you want to purposly insult someone? What would prevent any “sick pervert” from entering a bathroom to assault someone, trandgender or not?

            I say, if they look like a woman, and they identify as a woman, let the in the women’s bathroom. How would you know anyway? Plenty of women look a little masculine.

            Just because you don’t like homosexuals or transgender doesn’t mean they don’t have rights. They have been under the radar for ever. Because they are being recognized as humans with rights now, it’s a little hard on people who are uncomfortable with these concepts. But as soon as people get used to hese concepts, everything will level out.

          • Mat

            See you know you lost the argument and now you desperately looking for other topics to talk about. Will since you want to be on this subject, lets talk about Targets new policy. It will allow ANY perverts saying they are “transgender” and actually their not to access the ladies room to take pictures. Or worse. Would you like that happen to you? Or daughter or anyone in general? And I never said I don’t like homosexual. I’m for it but there is a line to be drawn to ensure sick bastards out there saying they are “transgender” but are not allowing them to gain easy access to their victims. And at the end of it all as lawsuits will go sky high their going to wonder who’s to blame. You don’t have to figure out who’s to blame. People like you who made a policy opened up to sex offenders and pedophilia.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, I am addressing the things said in the links you sent me. I think you are a troll, actually.

          • Mat

            How am I a troll when I provided facts. Trolls don’t do that.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, you provided opinions of other people.

          • Mat

            I provided the facts

          • B Belinda Morris

            Okay, whatever…

          • B Belinda Morris

            Not only are you a troll (or seriously ill), you’re a funny troll.

          • Mat

            Keep saying I’m a troll because trolls don’t provide any facts what so ever. So what you see if in a court the prosecutor who provides facts against the defense is a troll then? Funny how you think those who provided facts are trolls when I am trying to educate you. So that also means teachers, doctors are trolls too?

          • B Belinda Morris

            You need to put up something other than other people’s opinions. Do you listen to just anybody?

          • Mat

            i listen to facts and not just opinion. You on the other hand follows the blinded thinking everything is okay.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, but you’re a troll because you only point out opinions as facts. Do doctors or teachers rely on opinions?

            Nope, they don’t but you do.

          • Mat

            You are one and will always be. Just like the other ignorant sander and clinton supporters how much you liberals love to attack those with facts. Yes doctors and teachers rely on opinions how do you think they become better. Better than you that’s for sure.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Now you are just going against what you just said.

          • Mat

            No its you that’s going against everything you said. Especially calling people like me trolls. Who’s the troll now?

          • B Belinda Morris

            It’s really pointless to try to have a conversation with you because you’re just talking in circles without actually addressing the the point of the conversation. Oh well…

          • Mat

            No its pointless to have a conversation with liberals like you who refute facts even when its in their face and thinking your opinions are facts.

          • B Belinda Morris

            That’s not what it said.

          • Mat

            That’s exactly what you said.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Oh, now you’re just copy in what I say, good one.

          • Mat
          • Mat

            Also you never answered when I asked do you know why are government is afraid of the 2nd Amendment which is there are more than just guns in it?

          • B Belinda Morris

            Yeah, I will look that up. I have a feeling this something you just don’t understand or misinterpreted. You sure have misinterpreted my posts…

          • Mat

            No I never misinterpreted your post. I made you realize what’s been going on in this country. A little taste from the big picture.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Why are you so scared of political correctness? It’s not that big a deal. It’s just a wayof talking so that some people are not offended. If you don’t like political correctness, don’t use it. It’s that simple, you don’t have to be afraid of it. It will not hurt you. You don’t even have to acknowledge it if you don’t want to. Leave people alone and let them talk and act tne way they want. You are not the politeness police.

          • Mat

            I’m not scare of PC. PC is what causes problems. The most pathetic ever created. Why are you defending liberals and this communist government who care about themselves and not about you? Sorry but I have to be rude in order to wake up people who are still asleep like you.

          • B Belinda Morris

            So far, you have no idea of what I’m talking about.

            Political correctness has always existed. It’s just that it seems to have gotten famous lately.

            You simply don’t understand what it is. It doesn’t create anything. It’s just a way of talking or acting so that you don’t offend anyone. It’s a choice, like cussing or using slang words. You don’t have to employ it, if you don’t want to.

          • Mat

            PC has not always existed. Did existed before the 90’s? How about the 70’s? Maybe before WW1? Please show me that. And guess what its something you just can’t “employ it”. We don’t say policeman anymore because PC dictates we say law enforcement. We don’t say stewardess but we now say Flight Attendant. If we don’t say what PC implies lawsuits can happen or some sort of punishment. We don’t say Marry Christmas anymore because PC dictates it will now offend anyone who isn’t a Christian. We now say happy holiday. Still think you can just “employ it”? Because in some places if we say Marry Christmas we can be fined for it. Your little PC does damage to the country more than you know. Here’s a little tip, learn some common sense.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You are completely wrong. Who told you this nonsense?

            Yes PC existed in the 60s 70s, the 40s, the 20s and anytime people were concerned with other people’s feelings.

            It used to be called politeness…

          • Mat

            Its not called politeness. What planet are you from? How about saying Marry Christmas? We used to say all the time. Now we have to say happy holiday. That didn’t happened back then. You really need to lay off the drugs.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You DO NOT have to say anything you don’t want to say. I say merry xmas all the time. I say stewardess all the time. The reason people say flight attendant is that there are MEN doing that job now. And besides, they can change the name if they want to. But youcan even call the men in that job stewardess too, but he’ll probably get mad.

          • Mat

            Just because MAN does the job as well that is consider political correctness. So why must society have to change a job title because now it involves with gender? I provided you more facts than you can. Why are you still defending the issue? PC will continue to do more harm than good. All the time. And you cannot deny that at all as the last link I provided proved my point how it’s destroying us.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Nope, you didn’t…

          • Mat

            Yes I have.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Nope…

          • B Belinda Morris

            Nope.

          • Mat

            Yes I have.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Well, we can go on like this all day. But I stand by my last comment.

            Maybe you’re not a troll, maybe you’re just a goofball.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You cannot be fined for saying merry xmas. That is a flat out falsehood. And why are you trying to be so insulting? You could use a little PC.

          • Mat

            I didn’t say you can be fined for saying CHRISTMAS. Whats the matter to spell it out? Oh wait you don’t know how to spell. No the world can use without the PC bull. Again I have to be rude because sheeples like you continue to follow your false leaders off the cliff. But if you want to then go but don’t take anyone with you.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Yes you said that exactly.

          • Mat

            SO you agree with me that you are a sheeple and will follow their leader off a cliff than?

          • B Belinda Morris

            Like I said, you’re a funny troll…

          • Mat

            Keep saying I’m a troll. Doesn’t change the fact that you don’t want to admit you are wrong.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Please point out where I am wrong. Go on, let’s see ya…

          • ElGatoNegron

            Rant, rant, rant, rant. It seems focused dialogue is less your forte that clinging to your fear based biased platform. My precious Obama…..He’s President of the United States not my lover. Or are you so narrow in your emotional state you do not know the difference between the two? How do you know I’m Democrat? Is it your privilege to label and be right? I have clearly documented accountability to both parties. People like me? How much further will people who make sweeping generalizations their pedestals dumb down the US to platitudes they can grasp? You vote for the most dim witted…..jajaja You have conducted not one assessment of my voting record. Or is deceitful grandstanding your only recourse. And you call others dim witted?……JAJAJA. My agenda! Thanks for the well wishes. For the record, my agenda is to shed light as “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.

          • Dead_Mariner

            God you people are so freaking stupid.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Everything you just typed was a complete, absolute lie. No rescue mission was called off by snyone. Christ you child, there were THIRTEENS separate investigations into Benghazi, including several controlled by Republicans: they ALL found she did absolutely nothing wrong. The FBI has nothing to do with Benghazi, they aren’t investigating her, and don’t even have jurisdiction. You are such an obvious liar.

          • Florida Rebel

            What on earth are you smoking? Give it up before you have no functioning brain cells left.

          • Dead_Mariner

            Ridiculous bullshit is the hallmark of teabilly freedumbateer bumblefuks. js

          • Bruce Wayne

            It must be nice to live in an alternate reality.

          • Dead_Mariner

            She’s been cleared dipshit, keep up with reality.

          • Mat

            SHE HAS NOT BEEN CLEARED. FBI is indicting her you typical liberal and a traitor to the Constitution.

          • Nordenfeldt

            You are, of course, a lying coward. She has been cleared of any wrongdoing in Benghazi by THIRTEENS separate investigations. The FBI is not indicting her you liar, ther are performing s security check of the private servers she used. She personally isn’t even being investigated. Why are you extreme rightists all such obvious liars?

          • Mat
          • Nordenfeldt

            You poor adolescent little coward. Some random judge with no involvement in the case claims on Bill Oreilly that thr FBI MIGHT CHARGE HER? That counts as evidence in your delusional little world? Oh and they were not talking about Benghazi. By the way. Typical trailer park liar.

          • Mat

            Oh I’m sorry you’re just as dumb as the rest of the liberals who wants to protect this liar. The FBI has enough evidence. You seem to deny the truth just like the lair that’s trying to be president who will destroy us. Yeah keep that going. Because its people like you who wants to continue to put idiots like them into power. Again you are the coward since you don’t want to face the truth.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Listen little boy: your mewling bullshlt doesn’t become reality just because you want it to. No, the FBI does not have evidence, based on the speculation of one man on FoxNews who’s not even involved in the case. I get that you WANT it to be true to justify your adolescent hatemongering, but reality doesn’t work like that. You will lean that when you get old enough to have your balls drop.

          • Mat

            Little boy? Listen KID I served this country for 8 years in the Army and I know when I see a damn lair who’s trying to take control of this country. You people keep putting in these idiots who have no intention to help the people. Their only cause is total control and the destruction of our Constitution. I bet you want that gone too isn’t it? We have a word for people like you. Its called traitors. You want to side with the faction who’s ideas are based on communism go right ahead but don’t talk to me about how she has done anything wrong. You need a good kick of reality. Your parents should be a shamed of you when you were born.

          • Nordenfeldt

            (Laughter) notice how every little loser getting slapped around on the internet suddenly claims to be a military veteran or a professor or an astronaut or (your favourite fantasy) a ballerina? You are a whimpering little adolescent nobody kid, don’t even try and pretend otherwise. The US military doesn’t accept dickless cowards like you, even when you do get old enough.

            And you have not the first clue what communism is kid, stop trying to talk above your grade school education, you just look stupider.

            And shut the fu ck up about the constitution, a document you likely haven’t read past the second amendment. I’m so tired of the far right weeping about the poor constitution, while doing their utmost to remove right to privacy, the bill of rights, trying to suppress voters, the separation of church and state and so on. You use the constitution for toilet paper until someone mentions guns.

          • Mat

            Claim? I served in the 141st Signal Battalion 1st Armored Division in Wiesbaden, Germany 2003-2007 and 2-108th Infantry Battalion for New York National Guard 2007-2012. Now tell me how am I “CLAIMING”. What did you do for your country? Oh that’s right. You vote people like obama in so you and your democratic party can have their agenda. Kid you are a traitor like the ones in office now. You better hope we don’t go into a civil war.
            And how dare you spit on the Constitution like its nothing. You don’t even deserve to be living in the U.S. traitor.

          • Nordenfeldt

            You silly adolescent lies are not impressing anyone little coward. Yes, as it happens I did vote for Obsma, who by any metric you care to name has been one of the most successful presidents in generations.

            He cut the deficit by 2/3. That makes him only one of two presidents in 50 years to lower the deficit, the other bring Bill Clinton. No GOP presidemts on that list. He cut unemployment by half, presided over the longest period of uninterrupted GDP growth in 30 years. He killed 11x more senior islamicist leaders than Bush jr (including getting Bin Laden). I dare you to find s metric by which Obsma hasn’t been a Success.

            Civil war? Go back to your militia compound you hick coward.

          • Mat

            Lies? Keep telling yourself that. You keep calling me coward and you never served like I have. I figured you voted for this traitor who by the way supports ISIS. He is the most treasonous president we ever had and broken so many laws in the Constitution than ANY other president has ever had. Guess what civil war will happen. And you better watch your back. Because after we get the country back we will start hunting down liberals like you. In fact won’t you move to the middle east since you worship muslims like this guy in the White house. Do us a favor and leave. You spit on everything our fore fathers worked for.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Grow up little boy, all that posturing and whimpering just makes you look even stupider. I note you ignored the facts I laid, just like I expected a coward like you would. Way to prove me right you dickless craven. And you just can’t stop yourself from lying can you? No Obsma doesn’t support ISIS you nutless infant: the US has conducted tens of thousands of air strikes against ISIS under Obama. I mean come on kid, at least TRU and make your lies credible. Obama has broken zero laws in the constitution little boy. I dare you to cite a concrete example of such. Come on little coward, I dare you.

            No there will be no civil war you simpering little pussy. And it’s people like you jonesing for one who are the actual traitors.

            You really want to improve America? Then go take a bath with a toaster you lying little coward.

          • Mat

            That’s all you can call me a coward huh? Kid you really ought to know that obams now have us to negotiate with terrorists now. And guess what he doesn’t have us fighting against ISIS. So what that tells you. You’re pathetic. You deny anyone who tells the truth and yet you still go on spitting on everyone who opposes this traitor. And there will be a civil war if this keeps up the way our country is going. Like I said do us a favor and leave the U.S. You’ll be doing us a favor.

          • Nordenfeldt

            No I also call you a liar. Coward and liar, two apt descriptions of your actions and character, as we both know.
            No Obama doesn’t want us to ‘negotiate with terrorists’ you dickless
            Liar, stop making silly crap up. Speaking of you being a proven limp dicked coward, note how in my last post I DARED you to provide just one example to back up your lies? Yeah, as predicted you squirmed away in shame like the pitiful coward you are. It’s so cute how you prove me right with your every craven, lying post.

            Obama doesn’t have us fighting ISIS? Really? Can’t believe you tried to pretend you were in the military, when you are too clueless to know US aircraft have flown over 80,000 sorties against ISIS targets. A real veteran would have known that, but you hadn’t idea, did you you flaccid little cowardly bitch?

          • Mat

            Go ahead keep calling me lair. Because the only one here who is lying is yourself. And a coward. We are not engage against ISIS. Seems Russia is doing more than we are. Also I never PRETENDED to be in the military kid. And you really believe in your mainstream media too huh? We aren’t engage in them. No a real veteran knows that obama won’t even act against them. You’re the coward bitch who won’t even want to serve but then again, you never going to anyways because you don’t like our Constitution. So who’s the cowards now?

          • Nordenfeldt

            What the fu ck is wrong with you? The number of sorties against ISIS TARGETS IS DORECT FROM THE PENTAGON. Not mainstream medi you dickless liar. You got caught lying and are too much of a pussy to even admit it. The us has launched SIX times the number of sorties against ISIS than Rusdia has. This is simple easily verifyable facts, but fake ‘veteran’ you didn’t even know this? Could you be a more obvious, squirming liar?

            Speaking of you continuing to prove was a pussy coward you are? Still too scared and ashamed to answer my date asking for just ONE concrete example of your silly lie about Obama? You squirm away on your belly, too craven to even try to answer, and then expect anyone to believe you aren’t a coward? You are such a loser, little boy, and deep down I bet you know that too.

            I love the constitution kid, unlike you who probably doesn’t even know there is text above and below the second amendment. I bet real money you have never even read it. Go away you crap little coward, you aren’t fooling anyone.

          • Mat

            Maybe ONLY sorties but we don’t even have troops over there fighting them. Their ALL in Afghanistan or Iraq. Russia did more against ISIS. Keep believing in that muslim in the white house. And no you don’t give a damn about the Constitution kid. You don’t believe in it nor you will ever will otherwise you wouldn’t have voted that lair into office and still seeing what he’s been doing. Its you whose not fooling anyone here. 2nd Amendment is not only have the right to bear arms but a right to create a militia. So yes I do know what it is. I bet you want that amendment gone like your precious democratic commies.

          • Nordenfeldt

            You know who are actual veterans? The brave US men and women flying against ISIS for two years now, carrying the war to them. Those veterans you are shlt ting all over you liar.

            Oh, all our troops are in Iraq? We have almost no troops in Iraq you fuc King liar, they were all withdrawn. An actual veteran would know that. Yet again you reveal you know nothing at all about our military, you pathetic liar. Every post you make I catch you easily proving what a liar you are, and showing what a pussy coward you are. Still too weeping and scared a pussy to answer my simple dare to evidence your lie? Yeah, as predicted, you cheap coward.

            Russia flew one- sixth as many sorties as the US, and engaged no ground forces against ISIS at all. You are such an ignorant liar kid, slapping you around like a bitch is just too easy.

            God, you are such an obvious little loser, too pussy a cowRd to even stand behind your own obvious lies.

          • Mat

            I served in Iraq in 2003-2004 and the second one in 2006. Its you WHO’s shitting on veterans. Also you don’t know how to read. I said all in Afghanistan and Iraq. But then again liberals also destroyed our education so I hope you’re happy with that. Seems you are the loser. Keep saying those lies. That’s all you know how to do.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Yeah, you said all in Afghanistan and Iraq, but we have almost no troops in Iraq at all. You didn’t even know that you pitiful little liar. We have also withdrawn 70% of our forces from Afghanistan, but you didn’t even know that, you limp dicked little liar. We have made 4x more sorties against ISIS than the rest of the world combined, but you didn’t even know that you cowardly adolescent liar. You know fu ck all about the military, and I have to school you every single post. Yeah, real ‘veteran’ you child. It’s funny, you are just too stupid to even keep up your lies in the face of your betters. It’s so obvious, little boy.

            Speaking of your cowardice, still too much of a pussy to answer my DARE that you evidence your silly lie about Obama? Yeah that’s what I thought. Your cowardice is so predictable.

            You are getting boring, you sobbing little pussy.

          • Mat

            uh yes we do have troops over there. In fact most of Fort Drum units still deploys there. I’m tired of your lies. You seemed to know very little what’s going on. And why should I even have to answer your questions when his actions are plain in sight. But then again you’re just as blind like the rest of the sheep’s who follows this man. Keep being a coward. You’re the one who’s sobbing like a child. Which in this case you really are one.

          • Nordenfeldt

            Illiterate twit, I said 70% have been withdrawn, that leaves 30% there. They didn’t teach math in your militia compound home school? The FACT is you claimed all US forces were on Iraq and Afghanistan; you didn’t even know we had withdrawn almost all from Iraq, and most from Afghanistan. Every time you even try to talk about the military, you are factually wrong and get schooled by me, then squirm and backpedal like a coward. Just like you content to flee like s cowardly pussy from my simple dare you evidence your lie about Obama: me repeated six times by me, and you fled like a pussy every time.

            Look little boy, at this point the fact that you are a pathalogical liar, and a terrified, pussy little coward are evidenced, established facts in black and white. You know it.

            You are nothing: another little adolescent trailer park loser getting slapped around by your betters like the bitch you are.

          • Mat

            What militia? You still insult veterans who served proudly of their country and still uses insults. You never cease to amaze me on how much cowardness you really are. Okay tell me something about the military? Obviously you think I’m lying. Tell me something about the Army. Because I’m not being schooled from you not a single bit. As for obama hows that obamacare working out for you? Especially when the Senate doesn’t even have to use it. Or tell me how’s those refugees working for you? Tell that to the victims families that was killed by them which obama have allowed in here. Tell me if you love the Constitution like you say you do, how do you feel when the 2nd amendment is being under attacked by obama and his goons? How do you feel about veterans losing their benefits and retirement because obama is using those funds for illegal immigrants since you know so much about the military? You seem to know nothing and if you really do care about our veterans you wouldn’t be calling one a liar.

          • Nordenfeldt

            You aren’t a veyeran you dickless pussy, you have never served anyone of anything. You don’t know the first basic thing about the military, and have been flagrantly caught out in obvious lie after obvious lie about our armed forces. You have been schooled by me every time you post anything about the military, you humiliated little limp- dick adolescent.

            Obama has not passed or proposed a single gun control law. No attack on the 2nd amendment you dickless liar. Obamacare is by every public statistic working quite well. Not perfect of course, but since the GOP refuses to work on improving it, that’s to be expected.

            Obsma has let in s small handful of middle eastern refugees, fewer, by the wY, than were let in by Bush jr, Bush Sr or Reagan. But I guess you are too stupid to know that.

          • Mat

            You don’t even know me. I served from 2003-2012. Fakes will never give you dates or units where they are based at. And you are a coward to not even join. But like I said liberals like you are gutless. Did I even say he passed the gun laws? Show me where? And it looks like I’m still schooling you. And please show me where obama haven’t been trying to not pass gun control? Show me that he supports the 2nd amendment? You really aren’t bright are you? Typical democratic liberals. Also I asked you about the military. mainly the Army but you couldn’t give me a rundown on our branch. Like I said typical democratic liberal kid.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Well, its been almost eight years. Obama better hurry up and get to that trashing of the second ammendment, or he’s going to miss his chance!

            Why do you people keep singing that same old tune about Obama’s gonna git your guns?

            So far he hasn’t gotten them…

          • Mat

            Show me where that he’s for it? You seem to not be reading your news instead of watching mainstream media all the time.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Perhaps you didn’t read my comment properly. I was pointing out how for almost eight years people on the right have been warning how Obama was going to trash gun rights. And he has done no such thing or even hinted at it. Of course he’s not. I was being facetious!

          • B Belinda Morris

            But you haven’t cited the laws that Obama has broken. You’re just attacking Nordenfeldt. I want to know which laws Obama has broken. And since you know and I don’t, why don’t you answer the question?

            Which laws has Obama broken?

          • Mat

            Hmm you must be blind are you. Did you even not read my posts? Oh wait your just like nordenfeldt a liberal who can’t read. Another obama supporter who care about nothing on why we are losing our rights and freedoms. Especially in our public schools.

          • B Belinda Morris

            No, I want Bernie Sanders.

          • Mat

            Oh so now you think you are entitle to those who work for a living is that it? Well that explains why you think with all that BS. Which also means you are a socialist now.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You can say whatever you like, but you know better.

          • Mat

            This you and all who follow sanders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg

            Listen to the guy closely and he’ll explain what happens.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Yup, inequity is bad. At least you get that.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Maybe there is hope for you after all. But I think it’ll be a long time coming.

          • Mat

            There’s always hope for those who can see what’s going on around them. There’s no hope for people who are blind, such as you.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Ooooh, I saw what you did there. You are one clever li’l thang, you are.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Yeah, but you didn’t tell us which laws Obama broke. I’d like to know.

          • Florida Rebel

            HAHAHA. I don’t understand it myself, but she has everybody afraid of her. Maybe it is the green skin and the cackle that turns your stomach but the fact remains that many are intimidated by her/Bill/both and do not want to end up on the dead friend/dead enemy casualty list. Damn, I’d love to be the one to throw the water on her that makes her melt into the puddle of slime she really is.

            I know you lefties that are totally clueless will back her regardless of what she says or does [just look at the asinine reasoning that Pelosi just spouted, ‘ Again, Hillary Clinton has been a strong — she comes to this, yes, as a woman. It happens to be that she’s a woman. She’s so qualified. She has had great national security experience as a member of the Armed Services Committee and as Secretary of State. And for these and so many reasons she’ll be one of the strongest, best prepared people to enter the Oval Office in a long time. There are some others, but she will be among the best prepared to serve as president.’

          • Bruce Wayne

            Cleared like your colon before last night’s date with your boyfriend.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Another non responsive attack instead of addressing Dead_Mariner’s post.

        • Florida Rebel

          Hillary? Then watch the rest of the country CRUSH that lying power-hungry whore. Yes, I hate her. She is probably worse than Obama. She needs to be hanging from the end of a rope.

      • bsroon

        Trump made (and lost, and made) his billions by playing within, and gaming this system against you and i. Were he ONLY worth ONE billion – this is his pay rate – you decide if ANYONE deserves this;

        If he worked an 8 hour day – 365 days/year – he’d be making 342,465.75 per hour. If he worked a 40 hr work week – he’d give himself $480,769 (.23) per hour.

        If you think he did not game the system, and steal the value that was all made by working people – you would be flatly wrong.

        We don’t need any parasites like this in office.

      • MargaretEDavis

        What an unintelligent reply

      • SageFeldemeyer

        Oh paleeezzze! Demagogue-Don would be as corrupt and full of denial as any Flint, Mich. official. Only a delusional moron believes that he’s fit for prime time. Irresponsible? YES!

      • Charli03

        You’re kidding, right? Everywhere he does business, he leaves a trail of corruption. Slave labor on his projects abroad but he doesn’t know anything about it? Wearing suits made in China while ranting about outsourcing of jobs and free trade; four bankruptcies; his foreign policy speech was a scripted mass of contradictions that offended the world and will neveer work. He hates every minority except his wives and girlfriends and probably the Scots where his mother was born, but they hate him because he built them a golf course, gonna be yyyygggeee with housing and a business community for all and a fantastic view. What he left them with was a golf course and few villas for the very rich, and a berm that cut off the view they had from the ocean and then left town in the middle of the night with no great community of jobs. They actually despise him. The jobs his bankruptcies have cost in America have never really been counted. His kids trophy hunt exotic animals on the edge of extinction. He is a serious narcissist with a hair trigger temper and a foul mouth.

      • Emily Jane Bernstein

        Right on to the Whitehouse…#GOTRUMP2016

    • Concerned

      for what to get the same results–men will be men–and all are imperfect

    • Maggie Jones

      The point where we get out the vote for incorruptible candidates such as Bernie Sanders. The point where we insist that super delegates vote with the majority of the people of their states (not be paid off by Hillary and big money). The point where we march by the thousands to protest blatant election fraud. The point where we will not allow our country to continue as an oligarchy instead of a democracy. The point where we raise our voices to a collective shout and say enough is damned enough. The point where WE THE PEOPLE stand up and fight against the loss of the ideals of America (and in too many cases the loss of our lives).

      • B Belinda Morris

        Not Trump, not Clinton, yes Bernie!

        • Emily Jane Bernstein

          Wrong…….he is a socialist…and he will bring socialism …straight to your door…

          • Maggie Jones

            He is a Democratic Socialist. Big difference. Take the time to do research.

          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            Can you enumerate the difference, Maggie?

          • Logan

            Since socialism was introduced to the English around 1830, it has been defined several ways. Technically it is system of social organization, where property and the distribution of income are evenly distributed. The understanding of that control has varied, and the term has been understood in a multitude of ways, ranging from statist to libertarian, from Marxist to liberal. You need to know the difference between an economic ideology and system of government but, today “pure” socialism has been seen rarely, usually briefly in a few Communist regimes. Far more common are systems of social democracy, in which regulation, with limited government ownership, has been employed by democratically elected governments (as in Sweden and Denmark) in the belief that it produces a fair distribution of programs without impairing economic growth.

            If you haven’t fallen asleep to my response yet, here are a few Socialist programs in place in the States already:

            Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
            Department of Health and Human Service
            The Department of Homeland Security
            Amtrak
            FEMA
            Public Street Lighting
            Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
            Health Care for 9/11 Rescue Workers
            Sewer System
            Public Parks
            Museums
            Fire Dept.
            Police
            Public Schools
            The Military/Defense

            I could continue but I fear it would fall on deaf ears…

          • robot g

            Thsnk you someone here actually reads. So tired of people saying Bernie Sanders is a commie, socialist, and fascist in the same sentence. Same people dont even understand capitalism. Great post

          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            Wow Maggie, you changed up your name! 😉
            Oddly, you just defined socialism…not the difference between a democrat and a democratic socialist?
            Also, I hate to quibble but, defense is meant to be one of the powers of the federal government. Thus, DHS and the military would fall under that umbrella (and CBP is under DHS.) Most of you list actually falls under state control (save the CDC and DHHS). Though, entertaining I am uncertain of the point that you were attempting to make with your commentary? You’re for more government? For less government? For capitalism, socialism or democratic socialism (whatever that may be)?

          • CMSmith

            Public roads, police, etc., are social contracts, not socialism. In Scandinavia, with the partial exception of Norway which has large oil revenues, governments have started to expand economic freedom across the board (personal freedom is another matter, of course). Those who seek to push Scandinavian-style Big Government in the United States are either misunderstanding the facts, or deliberately misleading you. Read the book Scandinavian Unexceptionalism which really explains this well.

          • chris comer

            See .. That is the problem with socialists democrats .. You talk about wealth redistribution, but fail to realize that wealth is already being redistributed.. To those that work for it …. Get off your lazy asses and earn a living like the rest of us do.

          • LG

            you truly are an idiot. I bet you were the same way with Obama and death camps and all the hate spewed by the right? do some research on the man before you spew your ignorance.

          • Fah q

            Democratic socialist. And let him. You probably dont even have the slightest clue how democratic socialism even works. You people just love to scream NO! NOT BIG BAD SOCIALISM, yet none of you have a single clue how it works, and change scares you. But our democracy has been doing just fine. Fuck you and your entire money hungry greed filled generation.

          • Douche

            Big tax increases, huuuuuge tax increases……..that’s how it works, it is the only way it works, if you want to call that working.
            How much of every dollar made should be taxed? Talk about greed, you want to take what you didn’t work for, you know what…….fuck you too.

          • Vox Populi

            In the socialist country where I live, I pay 30% of my monthly income and for this money I benefit for police, firefighters, highways and parks, clean air, clean tap water, “free” healthcare and “free” education and many many more.

            We don’t have the entire country locked up in prisons and our government is not run by lobbyists.

            Even my master studies were free of charge, not even a symbolic 50 dollars fee, nothing.

            So, is this 30% such a nightmare for you? How much do you pay right now and how extra do you have to pay for your medical bills?

          • Llewellyn Andrew

            What is the debt level in your country?

          • Llewellyn Andrew
          • Stan Ubeki

            The debt don’t mean squat if you don’t compare it to the GDP.

          • chris comer

            I call bullshit on the 30% tax rate, unless you are a useless scrub that doesn’t work .. Denmark has an average tax rate of 48.9% … Nearly half of every dollar … We pay 35% on average here and we also get fire, police, school, (if you do good in primary school, you can go to college pretty much free) highways, clean water, healthcare, and clean air … so yeah .. Screw Denmark with it’s high suicide rate and poverty stricken population, and screw socialism ..

          • Ms plissedOff

            If you talking about US having clean water well that depends what state. Heath care is big money. Big Pharma is the only winner. So that’s not entirely true unless you don’t read up on all the Chemtrails. So we don’t even have clean air. GMO poisoning us with our food.
            America isn’t a country it’s a corporation and the only winners here are them. Pharmaceutical companies are killing people daily and not been held accountable for the deaths they cause. Vaccinations are causing autism and yet they make them mandatory.
            We have some serious issues going on and it would be blind sided to not see it’s a nightmare run by corrupt government and bid corps. The people are been screwed over daily. Losing their freedom at every turn and refugees arriving by the hundreds of thousands so expect the raping and murdering to be coming to a town near you.
            4 yr old was raped by 3 refugees. Cops are sweeping it under the rug. Saying it was concenual. 4 year old gave 3 teenage boys concent. Bull shit. They haven’t been arrested yet. Media hide the real truth and gloss over stories that have little importance.
            Time to wake up and realize the prison nation is been enslaved, dumbed up and poisoned daily.
            Yet no one is standing up to the tyrant government.

          • lovingparentof2

            How many immigrants did you accept in 2015??? How’s your defense or military?? You’ve got all of 6 Noble prize winners. And for socialists who are so proud of being liberal, how diverse is your population??? If your health programs are so great, why does your population come to the US for serious treatments (like cancer) and for college education? How good are your colleges? How many foreigners are actually coming to Denmark to attend your colleges??? http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Denmark/United-States/Economy

          • Rolling Stoner

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/903565536c5bf157be8b8e631cfdbba035341b25276e0c1459eb22dd910a6dac.jpg unless you make $250,000 or more, your taxes don’t go up under Sanders plan. Read once in a while. It won’t kill u. I promise.

          • DScott Barry

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! You actually believe your taxes won’t go up? What a (useful) idiot.

          • lovingparentof2

            You are kidding, right? Bernie’s tax plan is the biggest increase out of everyone, including Hillary. Trump’s is the only plan that actually decreases everyone’s taxes. Under Sanders, expect your take-home pay for the average citizen to go down by almost $500/month, while Trump’s goes up $200/month. There’s no way the geezer socialist promises free crap to all but not increase everyone’s tax burden, under the assumption that you’re going to get more for it. Well, no thanks. If I’m going to pay for it anyway, then I’d rather make my own choices. That’s the thing with socialism. They take your money and choices away from you and tell you what they think is good for you. No thanks!

          • ghanderman

            “socialism” pays for the interstate, for public schooling, for public works. you americans with your moronic perspective of the world; youre ripe for ass r@ping, because the politicians know youre already primed to be scammed. its too easy. you get what you deserve.

          • Valerie Jo Doran

            Screw Sanders !!

          • Katykarter

            Education is the bane of Socialism

          • Jim Wahl

            That’s a huge lie! Why don’t you go to his web site and read it for yourself? He even admits it in several of his speeches.

          • Brenda

            Lol. You caught that. I did too. I mean the f.u. part.

          • lheurebleue

            No, we want what we worked for and got stolen by the rich pigs who bought our Congress. We want them taxed fairly, and outsourcing and hiding money offshore should be criminalized. I’d like to see the entire fortunes of certain families confiscated and Social Security repaid from what the pigs stole.
            People who make less than $50,000 a year shouldn’t be taxed at all

          • tracy smith

            Shut up idiot you are way to dumb.

          • Jim Wahl

            Oh! What an intelligent response. Just a little desperate are we?

          • Llewellyn Andrew

            America became great through capitalism mixed with a small degree of socialism to balance the books but as the country shifted more to the left and socialism it did little to produce a great new generation as one can well see in the end result like the language and disrespectful manner in which people treat each other.

          • Cindy Carlson

            Llewellyn Andrew: You’ve got that wrong. We are a totalitarian oligarchy. People became wealthy and prosperous by taking from others -illegally through embezzlements, revenuers taking money above what was owed in taxes from people years ago, illegally stealing land from others. Our authorities are corrupt. Our government is set up to cater to the wealthy and for businesses. Socialism of FDR built infrastructures and provided people with a living wage. Unions helped get people out of lower class and into middle class. The problem is that the power has shifted to the right and they are taking back things earned from unions. W. changed the law regarding businesses having to pay contract employees time and half for exceeding 40 hours. Overtime laws have not been updated and Republicans have been proposing to get rid of the minimum wage and have employees be 100% responsible for health care insurance. Our country is owned and run by several very wealthy families and corporations many who pay little or no tax as it is and Trump and Republicans want to give them more tax cuts. Businesses not only use offshort tax shelters, but the onshore tax shelter of Delaware for low taxes,Hillary and Bill Clinton have business registered there and Trump has over 300 businesses registered there.

          • lovingparentof2

            Exactly right!

          • kicks

            If you want to see what socialism can achieve, just look what it done in Russia, East Germany, yes all Socialist republics, where all power is centered in the hands of the few. I have no doubt there are many who believe we are close to that point in the US. but it is not too late to toss out these left wing scumbag commies, and return again to the proposition of We the People, and may God Bless America, for she needs Blessings, not devil worshiping Socialists.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Just refuse to even try to figure it out…

          • Jim Wahl

            Socialism? One word…. Venezuela.

          • chris comer

            Yeah.. Sorry .. can’t vote for a guy who has gone on video talking about how he believes in bread lines like Russia had before the wall came down, and bitching about capitalism while driving around in a $430k car and bitching about people not paying their fair share of taxes while he paid less than 14% … you want socialism? Move to Cuba ..

          • Rolling Stoner

            Lies.

          • chris comer

            Really? How about looking it up on youtube … Very popular video

          • chris comer

            Seriously guy, grow up ..The video is all over youtube, and was on nationwide TV multiple times …

          • lovingparentof2

            Really? What did he lie about? Everything Chris Comer said is true. They weren’t opinion, they were facts that YOU can easily fact check if you don’t believe them. But replying with “lies” just makes you look like a cry-baby. Sanders said “there’s nothing wrong with waiting in line for bread. Everyone should have to do it” meaning that we’d appreciate it more. Excuse me!!! It’s not the government’s job to make sure I value what I buy! Moron. And yes, Sanders only paid 13% in taxes and gave away only 3% to charity. I gave more to charity than this entitled, government career bureaucrat gave. He’s in the top 1% and should be paying close to 35%. And isn’t it interesting that he has personal credit card debt over $65,000. Can’t even budget his household finances, and he wants to handle our country’s!!!!!?!?! Furthermore, his hippie wife was the “president” of a college for many years and she just bankrupt it!!! Totally left the students SOL, but get this, she got a $200,000 check when they closed their doors this year. So she bankrupts a college, and takes home a $200K paycheck on the last day. Must be nice. There’s no way either of these hippies would last 4 minutes in the real world without getting fired. But they want to run our country. It’s so laughable. The only thing more humorous are his supporters who think he’s “one of them”.

          • lheurebleue

            That’s communism. And don’t say it’s the same thing, you’ll only end up looking MORE ignorant.

          • chris comer

            wow .. you don’t know Bernie as well as you think you do, because he is on Video stating that Stalin had it rite with the bread lines, and Castro had one of the best governmental models he had ever seen … Granted, the video is more than 20 years old, but he has never changed his views and still praises Castro today …

          • Ms plissedOff

            Wonder if Castros so great then why is Florida full of Cubans. ?
            Castro keeps his people down they don’t get to get rid of him either.
            Opportunities are few.
            So he thinks this is a great run country. Please his an old fool. Hillary is even a bigger nightmare besides been a liar and a even bigger scumbag than her side kick Obama.
            God bless America is all I can say. This old lady is going to need all the blessings if she’s going to pull out of this intact.

          • DScott Barry

            If you actually knew what you were talking about, you’d understand that we’ve had “democratic socialism” in the US for 75 years already. How has that worked out?

          • B Belinda Morris

            It was doing great until the oligarchy got involved.

          • Stan Ubeki

            Fah Q, Socialism = 50% Communism, 50% Buddhism.
            Sincerely,
            Pho King

          • Valerie Jo Doran

            No its not greed asshole its independence from big government . Its the pursuit of happiness on your own terms and its privacy and freedom as to not have tge fucking government in bed with you ..

          • CrusadaB

            I see Venezuela , I see France…I see nothing but socialist rants.

          • omphalos978

            DOH, Emily. He is a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST, not a totalitarian, not a PLUTOCRAT. It is BERNIE OR BUST. And oh yes, it will be just awful when AMERICANS WITH HEPATITIS C can get the MEDICATION to be cured, without the PRICE TAG OF $87,000 for what folks in INDIA pay 900.00– terrible he wants to send our sons and daughters to public colleges, BILLARY WANTS TO SEND THEM TO WAR. Only fools will miss the chance to vote for change, only fools don’t realize CHANGE IS GOING TO COME.

          • Cindy Carlson

            Good post.

          • chris comer

            Change was already voted for in the last two elections, and the change was not good … Trump 2016

          • Walter Breymann

            Democratic socialism like we have in peaceful Denmark. Open your mind, check it out. it is affordable and politically the best place to live today.

          • Vox Populi

            yes, but instead of using the Danish system in the US, the corporations are trying to impose the US system in Europe and this way people will stop having good examples to offer.

            The TTIP agreement is the biggest danger, it brings GMOs and lobbying to Europe and strange things are happening this days.

            Like your country spending an enormous amount of money on F 35 planes, which anyone agrees there are a huge failed project. There is no logical reason spending all those billions of crones for faulty planes. Unless someone used a backdoor.

          • Cindy Carlson

            Vox: Good point. Someone must be profiting from those useless F 35 planes. The U.S. government is very corrupt, so are the authorities in this country down to the city level. Cops violate the civil and human rights and illegally enter homes, garages, vehicles to harass, set up and steal from targeted people. They make deals with witnesses and make allies and share a piece of the pie with them. They remove financial documents and make deals with people at financial institutions that alter balances and remove deposits, and if the target tries to fight it, the target gets more harassments, thefts and life destroyed. Including getting divorced with attorneys who do not fight for the target but the spouse and the courts who rule in favor of the spouse. If a couple moves to a different state and the husband has a good paying job, he is considered desirable husband material for one of their popular queens, so the wife is harassed both by cops and members in the community, their home has illegal entries thefts, mind games are played on the wife, the computer and phone gets hacked into and the cops lock the wife out of her accounts or delete files. Cops tell husband they would like him to divorce his wife and tell them there are better women locally that want him and promise that his wife gets screwed over in court. There is a shortage of desirable single men with good paying jobs over the age of 40 and what I stated has been done and is being done to targeted individuals who have little or no allies and someone society won’t stand up for. From what I’ve heard is that the FBI /cops demand large sums of money from targets regardless if the target is guilty of a crime. They will watch a target for years, but not talk to the target or arrest the target if the target is doing something illegal but rack up a bill for years then steal tens of thousands of dollars. They do that to loners and other people with little or no allies or power. There are cops in the South that pull over someone and if the person has large sum of money on he/she the cop can legally take the money assuming it is from drug deals. They have done that to people on their way to buy a car. The money gets processed through the system and the cop who confiscated the money gets a check usually the entire amount of the money he stole or a large portion of it.

          • B Belinda Morris

            What the heck was that?!

          • Brenda

            Example: wife files for divorce from abusive husband. He refuses to sign it and instead files his own case against her. The courts disregard her filing and instead grant the divorce to him based on her abandoning him which never happened. She had to lock him out after she’s denied an order of protection. True story.

          • Piita

            I think it might be time for you to put your tinfoil hat away and get your meds refilled.

          • Ken

            Troll? Or did you really say Tin hat?:)

          • MisterMisanthropic

            Tin foil hat….you know, like conspiracy theorists, christians, Trump supporters and other insane delusional morons wear.” Pretty clear.

          • Ken

            Then your not in uninform you fool, better put on your Nazi uniform and tell everyone what to think since your so intelligent.

          • DScott Barry

            We spend hundreds of billions protecting your sorry asses, because you won’t.

          • Vox Populi

            protecting from who? from those who you arm, fund and train? from those who you use to commit terrorists acts like 9/11 so you can justify your warmonger politics? fuck off mate

          • Katykarter

            I’m pretty sure he’s referencing Russia my Euro friend. If you’ve bought into the lie that we (USA) armed and trained the pre-Al Qaeda militants and are responsible for ISIS’ rise, you are guilty of lies by omission, or if you will, blind ignorance.

          • ghanderman

            CIA. enough said.

          • Dorothy

            Well said. Thank you

          • tracy smith

            You punk mother you and Amerikkka don’t peotect a damn thing.Hell if there’s no money involved Amerikkka the great Satan won’t lift a claw to help.

          • Jim Wahl

            You ungrateful piece of shit! If it weren’t for America you would be speaking German right now!

          • d marino

            Oh Jesus, you bought that propaganda term I see. After being told that bullshit time after time, you actually believe the propaganda it seems.

          • NCGran

            American business held us back as much as they could from entering the war to help Europe because they and the Bankers were making a lot of money, and they were taking German money as much as anyone’s. Hell, we even sold Japan massive amounts of metal that they made into bullets to shoot at us. Had the Japanese not bombed Pearl Harbor we would have let the Germans have Europe! So don’t get all faux Patriot on us, because it not only dishonest as hell but it makes you look like a jackass!!!

          • JonWa

            We don’t spend billions to protect nobody from shit. We spend billions to protect corporate interest dumdass.

          • Llewellyn Andrew

            It does not work in the end as great debt has to be created to sustain such a system. Politicians bribing the population with free gifts, which can only partially be funded by tax payers, might bring prosperity now but failure in the future. A good example would be Detroit and other similar cities where socialism eroded the wealth over time. Socialism certainly has a place but not in the current form. I like the Mormon model which for me is the most balanced in the world.

          • Katykarter

            EXACTLY! It is a short term, illusion of a fix. But a long term problem in all areas. Not the least of which is it (socialism that is) flies in the face of what makes or made America great, that which is envied and copied world wide. Socialism is a slow burning disease that robs the people of their will to succeed.

          • tracy smith

            Amerikkka ain’t shyte and it’s also not great and never have been.

          • kicks

            And just look at the state of affairs in peaceful Denmark, with its muslim no go areas and mass rapes, no thanks.

          • tracy smith

            That sound like Amerikkka.

          • kunwil

            Yes but Yanks are crazy

          • alice215

            ignorant.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            And you have mo freedoms and everything is out of reach

          • tracy smith

            Amerikkka yeah that’s messed up this dump country is.

          • DScott Barry

            If it’s so great, why is Denmark switching back to capitalism?

          • B Belinda Morris

            You don’t have to switch off democratic socialism to get capitalism. We have both.

          • tracy smith

            Bull shyte.

          • lovingparentof2

            For the love of God, please give it up with the love affair of a socialist country that has only 6 million population and is different from the US in more way than you can count, and not just politically. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Denmark/United-States/Economy

          • tracy smith

            For the love of God why don’t you give up with that capitalism is great vull shtye and stop lying fool

          • Valerie Jo Doran

            Socalism will not work in the United States . And Bernie Sanders is not this poor working for the people democrat …

          • iknowbetter

            look at WWII democratic socialists , see how well they did? Maybe you know them by their other name “Nazi”

          • Tiki Steve
          • tracy smith

            Violent police murder innocent people everyday in Amerikkka.

          • Terry ‘daBear’ Browning

            so do violent citizens……FAR more than your assertion of, ‘corrupt police’

          • Jim Wahl

            Peaceful Denmark? Really? Have you gone downtown and visited your muslim guests lately? Your citizens are being assaulted and killed right under your Socialist noses!

          • Michael Monahan

            Denmark ranks below West Virginia in per capita GDP… try buying a car in Denmark, you’ll find its no pannecea… you’ll find yourself pedaling to the pub on on a 2wheeler wishing you had never left the USA to chase the dream.

          • Jim Wahl

            No, like Venezuela and Cuba.

          • skw

            Denmark is not socialist, check this out on google

          • robot g

            Do us all a favor read something and turn the cable news off. You got the Dumbest comment award.

          • melizer

            Wonderful! How soon can he deliver socialism to my door?

          • Cindy Carlson

            You’re lucky you are a multimillionaire and don’t need any social services.

          • Airstreamingypsy

            So Emily, you won’t be getting Medicare right? Or Social Security? Or all the other socialist things.

          • Douche

            Oh really, those are socialist programs, bullshit, I have already paid for my SS and Medicare, my parents paid for their medicare and SS. If you worked and paid taxes, they are not Socialist programs, they are earned entitlements.

          • Lynati Keh

            I take it by “SS” you mean Social Security?
            Social. Security.
            What exactly do you think is MEANT by those two words? Or by the term “Socialist Programs”?
            Because “Earned entitlements” is just another term for social programs, albeit one mostly used by people who are terrified of uttering the word “Social” for fear they will be branded with a big letter “S” and thrown out of the country. And yes, those programs are only able to exist because people pay taxes to support them- pay to support their society and those they socialize with. It’s not all that scary of a word, or concept, really.

            “Socialism can be defined as a system of collective ownership and management of the means of production and the distribution of goods. DEMOCRATIC socialism gives more importance to a democratic character. While having almost the same principles as that of socialism, democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections. It is the belief that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. It is the belief that to achieve a more just society, ordinary Americans must be able to easily participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.”

          • Really?

            OMG. This boggles my mind. So if I pay more in taxes and I don’t have to pay for health care, how is that not an ‘earned entitlement’? If I pay taxes for these things, they’re not free. If big corporations and the ‘1%’ paid their fair share then there would be enough in the coffers to do these things. The rest of us are paying more than our fair share. I don’t understand how anyone can not see this. I would gladly pay a little more in tax to save a lot on medical bills. Seriously, just the thought of not having the STRESS of ‘what if I get sick?’ ‘what if something happens?’ .. that alone would be worth it. And I have insurance. Like most of middle income Americans, my insurance is a joke.

          • Ray_ping

            Social democrat. Big difference.

          • Nancy Cheever-Bryant

            Corporations and the 1% do not pay their fair share! Billions are kept from the American people. Understand the difference between Democratic Socialism (what we actually are!) and Socialism as linked to communism, etc. We are a Dem. Soc. country now. Every service you utilize and pay taxes for that service is an ex. of D/S. We are being cheated out of our money every time profiteering Exxon Mobil pays no taxes, or many of the banks. I could go on as to why we must elect the honest and hard working Bernie Sanders!!!!!!!!!!

          • lovingparentof2

            Another brainwashed “fair share” Sanders I-want-everything-free fan, I see. BTW, did you know that your hippie friend is in the top 1%, making well over $200K last year and he only paid 13% tax??? The average American’s tax rate is 15%, which includes the heavily poor (thanks Obummer), so Bernie’s 13% is even more laughable. What do you think of your “fair share” Bernie now? And if you think he has character, guess again. He only gave away 4% to charities. Heck, I gave away more than he did!!! Bernie is a sham!!! He’s everything the liberals hate (rich, white guy), but he’s got you convinced that he’s not one of them.

          • Timothy Urban

            Does he just drop it off? Does he leave a “Sorry we missed you!” note with the date and time of the next delivery attempt? Do I have to sign for it?

            Can I get a tracking number for the shipment? Maybe something like Pizza Hut has where it notifies you when the driver is en route? “Your socialism is ready and is on its way to you!”

          • B Belinda Morris

            He’s not a socialist. We are all democratic socialists. Ever hear of the fire department, or the public library, or the army? These are democratic socialist programs. These are the types of programs Bernie Sanders is in favor of. And so are you.

            So stop talking about these ridiculous types of things. Bernie Sanders is what we need. Not Hillary, not Trump, vote you best interest!

          • Cyndi Waldron

            Are you an idiot? The U.S. already has tons of socialist programs.

            Examples for you:
            Military, roads/bridges, libraties, police, fire department, student loans, garbage collection, landfills, war, farm subsidies, EPA, CIA, FBI, DEA, museums, public schools, jails, VA, Public parks, food stamps, sewer, government officials, medicare, courts, vaccines, dsms, zoos, IRS, medicaid, pentagon, FDA, SSI, SSDI, public beaches, unemployment, public buses, WIC, PBS, CDC, FEMA, public snow removal, public defenders, Amtrac, Homeland Security, National Parks, USDA, OSHA, USDA, DHS, government scholarships, Department of Energy, Department of Education, Secret Service, Customs/Boarder patrol, Census Bureau, Peace Corps, White House, DOJ, National Weather Service, Social Security just to name a few. Socialism has been at your door lady. Get a clue!

          • Stan Ubeki

            What is socialism Ms. Bernstein? Please tell us.

          • MaximRice

            Educate yourself!

          • B Belinda Morris

            Wrong.

          • bobby dickey

            pls do not perpetuate ignorance…not in this age of information

          • Clayton Bigsby

            I doubt if you really even know what socialism is, you are just running your mouth! Like Trump would be a better option!

          • tracy smith

            What’s wrong with that it’s better than this evil greedy selfish corrupt stingy capitalism..

          • cratewasher

            So? You prefer this corporatism?

          • Samantha

            Lol … you’re just kidding, right? Your thought about “socialism” is exactly what the puppet masters want the population to think, Emily. If not for people like you, we’d have the good “socialist” government that we had until the mid 70’s just like every other western country in the world. Talk about dim-witted.

          • alice215

            such ignorance.

          • JonWa

            Lady pick up a damn book and stop being so fucking ignorant.

          • http://jacquescornell.com/ Jacques Cornell

            Do you even know what that means?

          • MisterMisanthropic

            You mean like social security, pyblic chools, snow plowing, and rgular garbage collection??? Like that kind of socialism?? If so, bring it AND universal sinle payer health care “straight to [my] door!” Moron.

        • ndelco

          If Bernie is a socialist I’m Santa Claus …!

          • B Belinda Morris

            If you say so…

        • DON’T TREAD ON ME

          Wake up cupcake

          • B Belinda Morris

            Dismissive much?

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            You need to stop taking talking points as facts. You need to educate yourself about history, you may have some knowledge but wisdom comes with age!

          • B Belinda Morris

            Your reply has nothing to do with what I said. This is not a talking point. In case you missed it, I was making a comment on the way you address people.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Yes, wisdom does come with age. I guess you’ll have to get a bit older…

          • B Belinda Morris

            Did you read my comment? You were being dismissive. I wouldn’t think I would have to explain that…

          • B Belinda Morris

            “Dismissive much” is not a talking point.

        • Valerie Jo Doran

          Bernie Sanders is not as sqeeky clean as everyone thinks … he idolizes communism and porn .

          • B Belinda Morris

            That’s ridiculous. Not communism. Many people like porn. You are referring to a badly written article Sanders wrote 40 years ago.

            Surely if you can forgive all of Hills missteps, you can ignore Sanders youthful misstep, 40 years ago.

            Or maybe there are whiners all ovef the place.

        • SID

          bernie was in charge of the VA when waiting lists started and people died. no thank u

      • osgoodschlotter

        How would Bernie change the elected officials or the government in Flint? Mayor Karen Weaver is even a life long liberal. It’s ironic that liberals think corrupt government can some how be fixed by bigger and more government. Similarly, conservatives are just as foolish to think corruption is solved by government contraction.

        Ya’ll on both sides are crazy.

        #timeforareset

        • http://rationalmathed.blogspot.com Michael Paul Goldenberg

          So just sit back and let the oligarchs do what they will? Now there’s a rational plan.

        • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

          I was just thinking that!!! 🙂

        • robot g

          damn right but conservatives gives us more government while preaching against it.

        • splashy79

          Actually, the Mayor had NOTHING to do with this. It was the Republicans and their “Emergency Manager” that took away the power of the elected officials to do anything. Don’t blame this on liberals or Democrats. It has been the Republicans all along.

          • Angelica Kaufman

            the way I understand that it is the governors problem because the emergency manager was his

      • The Avi formerly known as J I

        I’ve been “Feeling the Bern” for quite awhile now. But let’s face some facts here. They have been trying to block him and his voters at every turn From that bullshit that went down in Nevada, to some shady ish in Rhode Island. They do not want him to win, and just like Obama with the Republicans, they will do anything short of killing him to make sure he is not sitting in the oval office in 2017.

        • omphalos978

          They will either feel the Bern at the Philly convention, when hundreds of thousands turn up with BERNIE OR BUST signs, or failing to feel the BERN, they will indeed GET BERNED IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, so get use to saying President Trump, Democrats, that or start rallying the powers that be to wake up in the DNC, we will do to the DNC, what the tea party did to the RNC, when you get THIS many people rallying together, only a fool ignores it (Debbie Wasserman Shultz)

      • Emily Jane Bernstein

        Hear hear……..are they listening yet…???? I don’t think so…..they are too busy watching the TV, and the kardashians……God help us. WAKE UP AMERICA.

      • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

        I am often surprised when people complain of corruption in government only to seek a solution of bigger government. Wouldn’t less government be a more logical conclusion?

        • Christine

          No. Better government is the solution, and since we, the people, ARE the government, that means we all have to do a better job. We can start by voting in every election and supporting honest candidates who are true leaders — candidates like Sanders, for example.

          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            Sanders, only wants to feed to monster that government currently is.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Absolutely!

        • CMSmith

          Yes it would be more logical. Propping up a bloated government with “better” people does not work. Big government does not produce anything – it just takes.

        • splashy79

          No, not allowing those that want to use government to enrich themselves is the logical conclusion. Don’t elect Republicans!

          • Cindy Carlson

            Splashy79: Good point. Politicians get kickbacks from lobbyists. It is legal for our politicians to use inside stock trading information to benefit themselves, but illegal for citizens including Martha Stewart to use it. Our cops are just as corrupt. They shake down people, harass, set up and steal from people as well. They illegally enter homes, garages, vehicles to plant evidence, or remove evidence a victim has against them, bug the victim’s phone, hack into victim’s computer delete files, play mind games and lock victim out of email or FB. They also embezzle money by making deals with someone at financial institutions who delete deposits and lower balances and records get changed. FBI agents do that even more. Cops and FBI agents are thugs for popular and powerful people in communities and will harass , set up and destroy the life of someone if someone popular or powerful wants it done to that person. Cops will make grudge calls to CPS and Adult SErvices claiming the target is mentally ill or an undiagnosed schizophrenic who lets their 5 year old walk around in urine soaked clothes and is overbearing or neglectful. From what I’ve heard is that FBI agents will either demand you pay them money or take it from your accounts for investigating you even if you aren’t committing a federal crime and it is thousands of dollars and I’ve also heard that sometimes they keep coming back each year telling the target, they need more money. They just don’t do those things to drug dealers but to loners who have little or no allies in their community or family. Sometimes they will watch a target for years, then wait until the target has a considerable amount of money saved and the parents gone and no one will help. They buy off relatives, sometimes it is relatives who are directly involved especially if there is a relative who is a cop or married to one.

          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            Splashy, both Bernie and Hillary have enriched themselves through governmental “service”only….your statement makes no sense.

          • B Belinda Morris

            How and when has Bernie enriched himself using government? Hillary is wealthy, Bernie is not.

        • Cindy Carlson

          The corruption needs to be removed from the government. Shrinking the government but not removing corruption won’t solve the problem. The problem is we are a totalitarian oligarchy in fascist mode. Rights earned by unions are being chipped away. Wealthy people pay a lower tax rate than middle class citizens with all the loopholes, onshore tax shelter in DE and offshore tax shelters. Many businesses such as GE pay no taxes. This is the country where a person who pats his attorney’s back in court for getting a good deal, now gets sentenced to jail time because that was considered disrespectful to the judge. This is the country where average or poor teens or people get sentenced to 10 years in prison for killing someone while driving drunk and the country that if a wealthy teen kills four people while driving drunk, gets off on “Affluenza” being too rich and spoiled to understand he did wrong and gets probation and sent to a country club rehab instead.

          • Stacey Renee Berden Trame

            If you don’t believe that shrinking the government would help reduce corruption…do you believe that growing government will remove it? My whole point is the irony of saying government is corrupt then looking to give those same corrupt government people more power to fix it…how does that make any kind of sense?! The only way to root out corruption is to take away power from corrupt individuals…the fair or flat tax would go a long way towards removing corruption. If you take away the ability of legislators to pay back their friends and donors with tax breaks, it takes away the ability to be corrupt (in that area at least.)

      • Pam Ozment

        Socialism is NOT the answer

        • B Belinda Morris

          No one is promoting socialism.

      • Douche

        I want some of what you are smoking!

      • splashy79

        Hillary is as good as Sanders is. To stop election fraud, vote for Democrats everywhere instead of Republicans, who are the ones that practice the fraud.

        • B Belinda Morris

          Hillary is part of the problem. Vote Sanders.

      • DON’T TREAD ON ME

        You are a tool to the inth degree, bernie sanders. Get real fucktard he is a socialist ie= socialism the biggest failed experiment in the history of the world and you want to ride that train. How retarded are you? Wake up cupcake you country us vanishing right before your eyes

      • Dorothy

        You said it. Just hope people really get it. Can’t understand how so many people can’t see through Donald and Hillary. One bafoon, the other a career criminal.

      • Scott Davenport

        Yes, keep drinkin’ the koolaid, Maggie….Bernie is a kook and and a socialist that thinks money grows on trees….basically, he’s an idiot. Mr. Trump comes the closest to any hope we have in this country, but that’s only if people like you take off the democratic bindings that blind them…..

      • abjames28

        Well Sanders sold out and is now hooked up with the queen of corruption Killery Clinton

      • leatherneckga

        yes let’s make a bigger mistake than what we have now. That will fix the problem. You people are stupidly insane.

      • Diana Dee

        Bernie sanders is another lying socialist communist who just endorsed Hillary Clinton. Another trickster…TRUMP2016#truth

    • B Belinda Morris

      We start with Bernie Sanders…

    • John Whitfield

      Time has come today !

    • Emily Jane Bernstein

      It’s past time to SPEAKOUT…..!!! Doctors are dying, Flint water crisis people are dying, when is this going to stop……not until WE THE PEOPLE STAND UP and SPEAK OUT….

    • splashy79

      Republicans are the problem. They have been the problem in Flint, and are the problem in other places where these things happen.

    • DON’T TREAD ON ME

      Our founding fathers loved us so much they even told us how to deal with our current situation, however most are gutless and ballless and will not fight. Its time to play for blood

    • CrusadaB

      November 2016… Vote for Trump.

    • ghanderman

      at what point did the sparks leading to 1776 finally erupt into a full fledged conflagration? ah, but this era is full of empty soulless people who have nothing to offer and nothing to live for; nothing will wake them up. they have agreeably signed their names on the dotted line to a faustian existence in which nothing is real, nothing matters, nothing is everything. you get what you deserve through the choices you make. america has chosen nothingness.

  • MsLady Lifestyle

    Obadiah’s Vision for Esua and Edom… Enough said

    • Phishhed44

      King’s got no clothes!!!!!!! Repeat.

      • anthonyadams

        And the majority of
        Americans wish we could keep that king so we don’t face a pack of Republican wolves fucking up our country even worse than they already have. Don’t call ME a liar….look at the damned polls.

      • MsLady Lifestyle

        Keep In Prayer… Jeremiah 18:23
        Yet, LORD, thou knowest all their counsel against me to slay me: forgive not their iniquity, neither blot out their sin from thy sight, but let them be overthrown before thee; deal thus with them in the time of thine anger.

      • B Belinda Morris

        What’s this got to do with anything?

      • MsLady Lifestyle

        Obadiah
        Chapter 1
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        1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.
        2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.
        3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
        4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
        5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?
        6 How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!
        7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.
        8 Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
        9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.
        10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
        11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
        12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
        13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity;
        14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.
        15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
        16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.
        17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
        18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.
        19 And they of the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and they of the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin shall possess Gilead.
        20 And the captivity of this host of the children of Israel shall possess that of the Canaanites, even unto Zarephath; and the captivity of Jerusalem, which is in Sepharad, shall possess the cities of the south.
        21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD’S.

      • MsLady Lifestyle

        That’s the same attitude Obadiah was talking about, so keep it up bc it was already written…

  • Patricia R

    Snyder ignored the Flint crisis for nearly two years! He is touring Germany and other European countries spending $$$$$$$ when he should be spending it on Flint’s tragedy! Strange that these two people were found DEAD!!!
    And the “emergency manager” is an incompetent nitwit that Snyder placed there!!!

    • Eric

      Yeah, because he WANTED Black Democrats to die. You’re sick Patricia R., please seek help!!!

  • Phishhed44

    Somewhat related: My Son, David (29) took this situation to heart and has been working with others to get private donor HELP in the replacement of all Lead (PB?) piping in Flint and the surrounding area! I’m really proud of him!!!

  • Carol Ann Blondeau Ruaro

    Know that if you vote either Dem or Rep with the exception of Trump, your vote doesn’t matter, this is NOW common knowledge….vote TRUMP if you don’t want more of the same either Dem or Rep…they are one and the same…the only alternative is to vote outside the system and that’s TRUMP…!!!!!

    • anthonyadams

      Vote Trump and stick you head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye….along with the USA. Get real, for God’s sake.

    • Yagami206

      Handing over the office of Chief Executive to a vested corporate interest does not exactly keep our country out of the hands of corporate interests. It’s just eliminating the middleman. Trump is not only corrupt but a corrupter – politicians have been beholden to him for decades. It’s not strength of character that makes him so attractive – it’s the false front of the narcissistic strongman.

      • GreatGrandma

        I don’t understand when you refer to Trump as vested corporate interests. Trump has narrow interests, mainly high end hotels and golf courses. It seems to me that it is the career politicians who represent vested corporate interests, like Hillary and her millions of dollars in speeches to vested corporate interests. Bernie seems not to represent them either. If you want to avoid vested corporate interests you have two choices Trump or Bernie.

    • Deeno

      Bwahahaa. Trump is the system. I love it when people state rhetoric fed to them by the media. Do some research. Trump bought politicians for years with Millions in contributions. He bankrupted 4 billion dollar corporations doing it the “Trump” way. Now you want to vote for him and cut out the middle man? Trump once said ” if I ever run for president it will be on the republican ticket because those voters are stupid”. At least he was right about one thing!
      Show me a person who risks his life every day, takes years off his life span, and works for the government as President of the United States of America for less than a half million (Since 1865), who says they are there for the good of the people and actually means it. The sad part is my kids are related to 3 American Presidents and not a damn one of them was in the game for any other reason than money and power. The days of civilian statesmen is over. This is now a business and has been for a very long time. Trump will not change that and neither will Clinton.

      • B Belinda Morris

        But Bernie Sanders will.

    • Dead_Mariner

      Trump’s a fugging moron, like his supporters.

      • Eric

        Anyone who would vote for Obama twice and then consider voting for Killary or Bernie,…… has no room whatsoever to call Trump and his supporters morons ! ! !

        • Dead_Mariner

          Obama has done wonders with the mess that he was left with thanks to sorry azz Republican theives, but people like you are too stupid to know that. Ignorant teabilly freedumbateer bumblefugs don’t have a clue about reality. The Fox news military analyst just plead guilty to fraud in federal court because he was nothing but a con man, and a liar. The bumblefugs as, well as Trump, are still repeating his lies because they’re morons. Really, really stupid morons, http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/051/594/d31.jpg

    • B Belinda Morris

      What we need is someone dedicated to WE, the people. Bernie Sanders has always been for people.

  • Vivelevin

    Is this for real? What have we become in this country? When you’ve lived as long as I have, you get a perspective of the changes that have taken place over time…we always expect change; it is inevitable, but as a society, we are failing each other because too many people lack a moral compass. We know there are people who criticize the poor, accusing them of being welfare sponges and/or drug dealers and criminals…well, how do people survive when there’s no work around and only miserable low wages? Then these officials in Flint KNEW the water contained lead at a dangerous level and they ignored it…that is murder…genocide…and now people are suddenly dying who had knowledge about the cover up? WTF? We need a sea change in politics and people need to start paying attention to the people who run for office and dig a little into their backgrounds. We need more investigative reporters at every level of government, and maybe especially at the local level. It isn’t enough to report on the weather and the local high school football games or proms.

    • D!zzyd123

      We need Bernie Sanders, not Trump and not $hitlary Clinton.

    • B Belinda Morris

      And that’s why we need Bernie Sanders…

  • Andrea Roy

    The real solution is is a National Infrastructure plan that should be carried out immediately throughout the United States. Money that’s being wasted on war should be put to use by upgrading the cities for the future, so this doesn’t keep happening. People need to fix things when they break, even in depressed economic areas. Flint should be closed down and the people relocated until a clean up has been done. Unfortunately their industry died due to Replublican outsourcing and quicky, Yuppy, trading. As a friend truly, band together make stronger in country economic changes while these forgotten cities still have a chance.

    • B Belinda Morris

      Absolutely! And that’s why we need Bernie Sanders, yesterday!

  • Stan Ubeki

    She was shot by a former lover. Read up on it from a responsible news agency.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sasha-avona-bell-flint-woman-who-sued-over-water-crisis-n563451

    • Eric

      Who would that be CNN, the Huffington Post, Politico, the Daily Kos,……….

      • Stan Ubeki

        Are none of those are credible to you? Did you notice the link to NBC?

        • B Belinda Morris

          No, not credible, all owned by big money. These people are trying to own everything, including you and me.

          • Stan Ubeki

            You’re in fairyland, a Bernie millenial I’ll bet.When you figure out how to do anything significant without money, let me know. Until then, enjoy sleeping on your uncle’s sofa.

          • B Belinda Morris

            It’s where the money comes from that is significant.

            Thanks, I’ll sleep on one of my own sofas if I don’t sleep in my bed, not that it’s any of your business.

            I’ve probably been voting longer than you’ve been alive, judging by the tone of your reply.

            Feel the Bern…

          • Stan Ubeki

            First vote: McGovern 1972
            Again, what are your acceptable sources of funding? How do you know where the money comes from?

          • B Belinda Morris

            Acceptable is not necessarily ethical.

          • Stan Ubeki

            You just look silly now. Word games.

          • B Belinda Morris

            To you maybe, but then I guess most of us don’t care about that. Come back when you’re ready to talk about the article.

            I’m better at trolling than you paid guys are!

          • Stan Ubeki

            If I were a paid troll what would be my goal, my motivation? Regarding the article: Have you tried to prove me wrong? Can you cite a source that says it was reported to be a former lover, but was proven not to be? If you were to look into it further you would see that it was pretty much a slam dunk case for the police. You’re locked inside this little box of logic and ideology and cannot see outside.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Stan, baby, only you can know your goals or motivation. God knows you’ve mystified the rest of us

            The things you talk about, that I have refuted, generally have nothing to do with the article. I’m here to diguss the article. Who knows what you’re up to?

          • Stan Ubeki

            The fact remains, she was shot by a former lover, regardless of who reported it and who paid the reporter.

          • B Belinda Morris

            You’re funny, it doesn’t say that in the article. You gotta keep your troll updates together better than this…

          • Stan Ubeki

            That’s exactly my point, it doesn’t say that in the article. It’s called an error of omission. They want it to look suspicious, like the “shadow government” did it, yellow journalism. If you read a reputable news source or two you would find the former lover angle to be true. I have family in the area and they saw it on the local news too. Your inability to recognize facts is disturbing. Do you think all mainstream media is subterfuge?

          • B Belinda Morris

            It’s not your point haw, haw, you got caught. *wipes tears of laughter from eyes*.

            I’ll just be content to refer to the article at hand…

          • Stan Ubeki

            Anyone that reads this thread would see you’ve had your ass handed to you about three times. You’re more dense than my drunk Trump uncle.
            Adios.

          • B Belinda Morris

            “You’re killing me Larry!” *tears of laughter rolling down face*

          • B Belinda Morris

            You saw it on tv, so it must be true!

            I don’t believe enough time or investigation has passed to be able to say one way or the other.

            The author is putting forth his supposition.

          • Stan Ubeki

            Did you notice (or care) that I specifically said “read” and suggested comparing 2-3 sources? You have obviously never taken (or passed) a science or journalism course.

          • B Belinda Morris

            If you only knew… But as usual, of course you don’t

          • Stan Ubeki

            Again, if you investigated further than this ideology supporting click bait site, you would see that is was a slam dunk for the local police. My brother lives in Flint and this is understood by the locals. FYI, MI Gov Snyder lives on Main St in Ann Arbor, 90 miles from the state capitol. He can’t go into a bar or restaurant in town without getting harassed.

            I’ve been clear and consistent and on point. I’m really not sure what your point is. Is it that the only correct and reliable news source is this click bait internet slum?

          • B Belinda Morris

            You gotta love this guy…!

          • B Belinda Morris

            Well, I answered you before but for some reason, it doesn’t appear. But what I said was, where the significance comes in is WHERE the money comes from.

            And if I sleep on a couch, I’ll sleep on one of my own, not that its any of your business.

            And I’ve probably been voting longer than you’ve been alive, judging by you’re tone, as you have not yet learned how to speak to people in polite company.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Well, I’d answer you but my reply keeps getting deleted. Oh well…

          • Stan Ubeki

            What news source would you believe? The college dropout blogger who couldn’t do what needed to be done to get a degree in journalism? The guy who doesn’t understand what the term “vetted source” means?

          • B Belinda Morris

            Various news sources. But I have to say, most tv news will only give you part of any story.

          • B Belinda Morris

            Don’t need a news source to know that.

      • Stan Ubeki

        What source works for you?

  • John Rogers

    Silent weapons for Silent Wars, pure and simple Genocide. Wake TFU! you live in an Actor Based Reality.

  • BeaM

    You’re putting together two separate stories about two separate family tragedies and turning it into a sinister plot in your own head to promote yourself. What a sham and a crime!

  • Ceunei

    Interesting. One a Generation Xer male, they are dying off early at this time, I’ll bet toxicology comes back with an overdose of some pharmaceutical or another, nothing to see there. The other a young black female, she was shot, nothing to see there, either. What a perfectly frightening set up.

    Neither Hillary Trump nor Donald Clinton can fix this. It is up to we the people, quite frankly. Voting for the Corporate backed candidates playing a dangerous reality TV show game with the voters is not the way to go in my book. That is more status quo, one with centrist change that benefit only the top and the other with hate and division that helps no one.

    While I don’t think Bernie Sanders can fix things like this on his own, I’m pretty sure the majority that seems to back him over the two actors on the Corporate Reality Show TV stage certainly can.

  • frank furter

    Running a country,is not the same as running a company..ah duhhh!!..Trump and his Klan,appeal to the dimwits that are at a premium now…lots of them..from both sides of the political aisle..but I have to say,that a dimwit will most likely pick the repub view of the world..every time…

    • William Wallace

      cupcake….you are really going to hate January 20, 2017

  • Judy Kirkham-Beville

    I wonder how high up this goes? There has to be a lot of fat cats at the back of everything.

  • robot g

    downriverdem you have to be the dumberer in dumber bwahahah

  • Christina

    Ok folks this article is about rwo people that may have been murdered because they were whistle blowers. Please do not loose site of this fact. The American people are sick and damned tired of this kind of bs. We do not need another elected official on the damned inside. ok…can we all agree on that? Yes Donald Trump has flaws..none worse than any of us.ok…and Obama let us all down. Who really gives a damn how Trump inherited his money? Take your jealous mind off of his cash for a minute will ya? And think about what is beat for you and our country. We are on theverge of being taken over by the mouslim people. Mr. Obama has dedicated his Presidency to the muslim causes? He gave black America free cell phones and a bounus check that he took right back if you owe child support ar student loans???Thanks but no thanks! If we fail to hire Trump…We will be in deep trouble folks. Obama could have taken a billion away from the muslims and repaired Flint water problems. But he will never do that folks…Right now we have ONE CHANCE to save ourselves…So get off of your American Behinds and VOTE. I’am voting for Mr. Trump 2016

    • D!zzyd123

      The only one who is a better liar and flip-flopper than $hitlary is Trump. Bernie Sanders is the only one who cares about the common people and not the corporate pimps.

    • Nordenfeldt

      Are you insane? Firstly the free phone program was started by REAGANISM and funded by every president, Dem and GOP, ever since. Muslim causes? He has killed 11x more islamicist leaders than Bush Jr did. He got OBL. Are you honestly this stupid? Obama is one of only two presidents in FIFTY years to lower the deficit, the other being another democrat: Clinton. He halved unemployment, presided over the longest period of growth in 30 years. By EVERY metric you can measure, Obama has been one of the best presidemts in the modern era.

    • B Belinda Morris

      Please go to Bernie Sanders website and check out his stand on things. He is the man we need.

  • tariq

    When it comes to harming original people, privileged class people are capable of anything.

  • tommybruner01@gmail.com

    We don’t live in a time where people could get away with a Silkwood or JFK-type cover up. There’s too much media now. Too many people paying attention. These people will not get away with this. Their time will soon be up.

    • B Belinda Morris

      Sure hope so…

  • fgvyti

    get out of the US if u can

  • junie

    Any comments made not pertaining to the featured article.
    This is a excellent moment to discover your intelligence
    level is just plain zip nor can it be process, you base an
    argument or discussion on a subject not being presented.
    In other words you drift away from the primary and create
    a ghost debate. Take this as a good deed helping you
    with your mental issues.

  • Donna E. Ploss

    Sounds like a MAJOR cover up to me.

  • MargaretEDavis

    Like the GOP official who was going to give evidence about Roves server that the results of the OHIO vote were sent to and then released to the public, whose airplane which was checked over by mechanics before he took his flight to Texas and crashed how can you believe any GOP official who is under indictiment when the whistle blowers come up dead.

  • Erutan409

    “The net result is that over 10,000 children (mostly Black) were exposed to water contaminated with lead.”

    And the reason for highlighting the race was because….?

  • damionblackthorn

    This is a Democratic bastion and all the folks involved are connected democrats…..so, theres nothing to see here, let’s just move forward…..the examples have been set…you fight, you might be the next found in an alley….Yeah, that’s how they do it in Michigan…

    • Plantiful

      There is little difference between Democrat and Republican today, aside from simply opposing each other.

      This is “government against people,” and when enough Americans wake up, it will be Americans against government.

      It’s gone people… look at the two lead candidates we have today: a corrupt, can-do-no-wrong liar, and a self-monied Tyrant.

      2017 is going to be fun if either of these assess gets elected.

      • B Belinda Morris

        We need Bernie Sanders. Now.

  • Sigus

    I love how this comment section went from flint water crisis to Donald Trump to Grammar Policing to Liberal Bashing… Allow me to put this back on point. Two people involved in what looked like a form of genocide by our own government have been killed. It was probably by our own government! This bullshit bitch slapping everyone is doing is pointless. This type of shit is exactly what they want you to do because, while you’re too busy cock slapping each other they can continue to pull shit like this. So, if everyone would look over here, at the fucking truth for a moment, I’ll show you whats going on. The Flint Water Crisis, as these two aforementioned deaths have started to make it look, seems to be a form of genocide perpetrated by our own government. As the above article says, mainly black people live in that area and mainly black people were affected. Can any of you possibly think of a better way to alienate not only an entire race but also an entire social caste?!? Everyone knows that since the GM plants closed years ago that Flint is nothing more than a ghetto and, with the way our fucked up government looks at it, what better place to unleash something that was probably meant to fuck population growth in that area. Think about this shit and quit fighting among yourselves! We all need to be on the same side here and put an end to shit like this. What if it were your kids drinking chem laced water? Would you give a blue fuck about who was on what side? I fear its not just those in power that are taking us down but the very dumb asses that they have successfully indoctrinated with their bullshit to sink us further….

  • Karl Hutchense

    The Feds d@mn well better be setting up shop right there in Flint until this is all investigated and all of the dirty dealings are exposed!!!

  • Doc

    FORGET ABOUT CORRUPT POLITICIANS WHAT ABOUT YOU WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CHANGE THINGS??!!

    • B Belinda Morris

      What? We pay their salaries, and then we do their jobs for them too?

  • N

    It’s not that I don’t believe you, but this would be much, much more persuasive with links to evidence, instead of just saying the names or titles of articles

  • Pandora Wallace

    OH just stop with this. Between Flint Detroit and Saginaw we have almost a murder/shooting a day right now. What about the other women who was shot no one bats an eye about her. “Sacorya Renee Reed was also found shot to death in the home.” As for the Foremen plenty of people die and it takes a blood test to figure out why. Maybe he OD on something/ Maybe he had a allergic reaction to something/ maybe it could be anything, really people wait for the rest of the testing before you drink the conspiracy theory kool aid. The water issue is a lack of care by a city over 50 years a lack of care by the auto industry a lack of caring by LOCAL GOVERNMENT all those issue should have been addressed over the years. Now all the tax payers in this state get to pay for LOCAL government corruption in Flint than we will get slammed with the corruption in the Detroit schools after we got saddled with Detroit’s screw up from their last wonderful Democrat Mayor who is sitting behind bars. OUR WHOLE system is Screwed we are all in trouble. Just image if these cities are screwing one state how much is the Federal system screwing us all.

    If you don’t think she lived in a dangerous area check it here it not one of the worst but it is by no means one of the safest areas of Flint:
    http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/flint/crime/
    Than read this:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/06/us/flint-problems-unemployment-poverty-crime/

    • B Belinda Morris

      Time for change, time for Bernie Sanders.

  • Charli03

    How convenient. A death from unknown causes; a coincidental death of a vital witness and her roommate, records missing from city hall and what, a unique city hall with no security cameras? Sounds like the 1920’s Chicago. My next bet, that the “killer” of the two young women will be found to have mental issues… a perfect scapegoat. This is the place we have arrived, where corrupt governors will do anything to stay in power and we’ve got a number of them, including Christie, Walker, Scott, Snyder, Brownbeck, to name a few, several of them despised and with trash bin approval ratings and yet they are “re-elected.” Reports of electronic ballot tampering, and that’s only the tiny tip of a melting iceberg. Wake up, America. The very fact that Michigan kicked out elected officials and appointed their own guys is surely against the law and yet it happened and no one said anything. WE didn’t say anything because we kept waiting for the residents of Michigan to say something…which they did, but the media other than Rachel Maddow, chose to ignore it. The Federal government didn’t get involved. The more they get away with, the voter disenfranchisement, robbing education funds to pay for privatized schools, privatized prisons, trying to privatize the post office by making them pay $2 billion in retirement funds while killing collective bargaining and government retirement funds everywhere else. If this tea party type politics straight out of the 1980 election platform of the 1980 presidential election with a Koch running as VP is coming to pass and if we want to save our country, we need to vote the fanatics out. They’re not that hard to identify. For starters, just find out if your legislators are a member of Koch’s ALEC who is writing the crazy bills getting passed across extreme right states like mine to disenfranchise voters and privatize everything in sight.

  • Robert Gravenor

    They obviously got hit for what they knew

  • Kim Triolo Feil

    My TCEQ investigator died and his field notes are missing in a case I filed against Chesapeake….gotta luv texass

    • B Belinda Morris

      Yipes!

  • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

    How did this thread get hijacked from 2 people murdered to trump and education?

  • Eric

    Bill and Hillary have been ‘taking care of things’ this way for years; their body count is somewhere in the high 30’s.

  • Joe La Fata

    wow will synder and his boys,,do in next..

  • Jesse Corder

    Forget it. It’s Chinatown.

  • Brett Jennings

    Someone remembered the old adage, dead men tell no tails. Especially in court.

    As what to do for corruption by elected officials. Join the problem. I got onto the borough council, then the rest of them appointed me to the sewer authority,with one mission. “Some thing stinks down there, so fix it.” They were not just talking about the smell from the failing treatment system. After 2 years as the chairman we received recognition as the wastewater system of the year by the PA rural water association for 2015. The 3 municipalities that appoint people to the board have been appointing people that have been complaining about the sewer system. That has worked wonders on how it has been running. People using common sense can go a long way.

  • BarefootBoy1

    Folks, there definitely is something Criminal happening in Flint, MI. And the Criminals doing this mischief need to be caught and executed!!! Forensic Science needs to be deployed to expose them. These two deaths appear to be murders, and the perpetrators are too stupid to realize THE TRUTH IS STILL OUT THERE!!!!

  • Timothy Babcock

    Who cares if the children were “mostly black”. All children are precious no matter of race and it should have no part in reporting of this horrible incident. Racism will never die because of reporting like this.

  • downtown21

    There’s no reason to believe that the timing of McFarland’s and Bell’s deaths is anything more than a coincidence. There’s a lot in this story to be angry about but don’t disgrace yourself by resorting to wild speculation about assassinations and conspiracies.

    • B Belinda Morris

      But that seems to be the leaning of the article.

  • Ben Slade

    This all brings to mind the Karen Silkwood case from the 1970’s, when a whistle-blower against another govt. entity was murdered, by all evidence, but no charges were ever brought. There is corruption in high places in our country; as stories like this one, and the “Silkwood” story clearly give evidence to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Silkwood#Death

  • Ray_ping

    I wonder what Lead to their deaths.

  • Roghish Sun

    This makes 3 people so far……2 black women, 1 white dude. “found dead”.

  • chris comer

    Gotta love how the author had to stir the race pot by pointing out that most of the people affected are black .. Well no shit .. Flint is mostly black ….

  • Dwight

    Who was the genius(s) who made the switch in sources without testing the new source?
    I’m fine with legal action against polluters, but the government officials who failed to test the new source also have blood on their hands. Perhaps more because public safety is their direct, legal, obligation.

  • DON’T TREAD ON ME

    I find it amazing that the people i question on here can respond to me they can post more commentaries. Yet there is a never ending stream of Regurgitaters on here spouting all kinds of BS. Fucking trolls

  • PORCH MONKEY

    Failed Dem AfroCOON local government.

  • Jay Virtue

    When this country goes to pot and it soon will, the ignorant spewing their hate and idiot theories will feel the brunt of it. You think that what’s happening to the people in Flint is not happening to a lot of people all over the US? You people are insanely stupid. This article is about killing innocent people and the poisoning and covering up of it. A great deal of kids were poisoned by lead. How would you like that to happen to your kids? What is this crap all about? I see nothing but mentally dead, hateful, ignorant people spewing crap and it has nothing to do with this article and the facts. There’s an all white town in Kentucky that has black water! This happened in Detroit! In California, the water has been tainted, too! If you have a mind and you’re reading these types of articles, you’ll see that the powers that be are doing this purposely. What is wrong with people? Can’t make the connection? You people have to rant and rave about stupid, racist, ignorant, pointless things. When people are able to control your water, poison it, move you into whatever they want to move you in or to, you’re no longer in control. In fact, you never was! And if you dummies think that this is only happening to Africans and when the shit hits the fan your ass won’t get chopped by the blades – you have a big surprise coming. Mark, my, words…

  • Anonymous

    True the us is at the point of being great but it’s also at its most weakest and when it’s at its most weakest is when we the people have to rise up and actually speak about it and not just type all this up in a website were only a certain few will read it you need to hit the street literally right were it hurts them by them I mean the (corrupt) it is clearly stated in the admenments we the people have all the power a government can’t govern us we lost that freedom when became ingulfed in the Internet and lives of famous celeberties I can’t even have conversations with my freinds longer than 20 seconds without them checking there phone because of fucken social media keeps the generation in the dark about what’s really going on and once one generation falls the rest go down and this is where we end up know brainwashed to much to realize no one has the balls to start up and form a rally of people from all over the world to raise up and open there eyes to what’s going on to finally put and end to this and take over our own future and not one made by someone else rise up the facts are payed down right in front of you know you choose what to do with it either ignore this and carry on the day or start a revolution simply by having a conversation with people you know and try to open there eyes and they will do the same and so on and so on
    Remeber these words

    “It only takes one man to change the future”

    The rest is in your hands

  • Michael Jay

    Sounds like we are in a third world country but are still bragging as if we know what we are doing when we obviously dont or the people in charge of that arena really don’t! Out massive publicity machine can no longer lie to the world about how great America is anymore!

  • geewhizzwow

    That’s convenient

  • Str8 up

    This water crisis was brewing prior to 2014. Consider Flint’s economic troubles and mismanagement of money from elected officials, who were all Democrats by the way. Everyone always wants to point the blame on republicans. Puh-lease! Flint is ran by incompetent black democractic politicians and why they’re being protected just reveals the corruptness of our govt. Blaming Democrats doesn’t fit the narrative to keep blaming Republicans. A Republican got voted in because of the incompetency of liberal politician. And I’m black, so this isn’t coming from some white person. Black people better wake up the govt. manipulating all of tbis in order to control the poorest communities. Smdh!

  • Didaskalos

    I’m not to sure about the water chemist claims in the lawsuit. I think it was all about a pH change in the water

  • debra waters

    We the people must stand for justice. We the people must end the corruption in our political system. We the people must unite to make this country a better place to live.

  • Rick Elizzo

    Repugs are killing you in FLINT

  • Patricia Herr-Conde

    OPEN your eye’s people, if any of the one’s blamed were republican it’d be every where. ALL THOSE INVOLVED ARE OR WERE DEMOCRATS. I’m neither but I have a brain and use it, media is only quiet when it’s Democrat’s at fault and they are trying to find a way to blame RINO’s, Tea Party’, Libertarian’s, or Independents

  • Samantha

    It’s past the point that we consider over-throwing. The sooner the better.

  • Frances Tintelnot

    Ties to Clinton?

  • JR Hannafin

    How did this woman go from one of hundreds suing, to “the woman leading the suit”?

  • JR Hannafin

    This story is total bullshit… the shooting of the woman had nothing to do with the water investigation, and there were no indications of foul play in the water employee’s death… the writers here are being completely dishonest.

  • Thomas Muir

    I’d call it a fortunate Clinton accident but I doubt I can trace it back to Clinton.

  • JPReturns

    This story is now two months old. What happened?

  • Ibulena

    Yikes! Sounds like the Clinton’s are involved.

  • Barbara Lyons

    I never went in for conspiracy theories BUT know I don’t believe a damn thing “my” government says.

  • gwayne

    Will the moral outrage finally boil over and cause the people to awaken and vote for an incorruptible Bernie Sanders or will America be destined for more of the same as before.I will be voting my conscience and for Bernie as he is above reproach compared to all of the other nut case candidates. I’m more than convinced that he along with the democratic party will set America on the right path unlike what the GOP has and will continue to do if given any more chances to destroy the country in return for the huge campaign contributions that have made them serve the wealthy instead of the people that need help more.

  • sailorbill

    billions for Israel who have free education,health-care and pure water NOTHING FOR FLINT.USA now officially has capitulated to Israel rule

    • http://jacquescornell.com/ Jacques Cornell

      billions for the Pentagon who have free education,health-care and pure water NOTHING FOR FLINT.USA now officially has capitulated to military junta rule.
      Or, how about
      billions for Wall Street who have free education,health-care and pure water NOTHING FOR FLINT.USA now officially has capitulated to hedge fund rule
      Anti-semitic much?

  • Sangreal

    They need Dale Hinman!

  • Sam Skaaf

    What is really crazy is that during this same period of time, the Sierra Madre water supply was going thru a very similar experience where our water was causing corrosion to the galvanized pipes to the city, our water was yellow, sometimes green and always brown. Until they say they had to force the County water supply out of their main supply using phosphate. http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20151227/how-sierra-madres-water-issues-went-from-bad-to-worse-due-to-the-drought

    • Sam Skaaf

      In 2013, Sierra Madre was forced to begin importing water from the Metropolitan Water District. That led to a new problem. The water source has a different chemistry, temperature and disinfecting agent than the groundwater supply. That started taking a toll on the city’s aging infrastructure.

      Residents began to see yellow, foul-smelling water coming from their taps ‑ the result of iron oxide being released from the inside of old pipes.

  • http://canexco.com/ swansea-jackacer

    If you listen carefully Trump says a lot of the same thing that Bernie says. The difference being Trump realizes it all has to be paid for.

  • Broos

    Remember, the Company (CIA), Mafia and Gummint are ALL Now one.

  • CeeCee

    Woman was murdered by a punk, man overdosed. Happens everyday. paranoid ppl abound.

  • skw

    This is what you get if Hillary is elected.

  • Dan Smith

    They will piss off the wrong person sooner or later.

  • jtrose

    Michigan Republican Governor Snyder belongs in jail. Please stop shifting the blame around!!!! He sold
    Flint out just to save $100 dollars a day for three months. “He hollow too-much”