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Autism Rates Explode In Asia After Introducing Western Vaccines

Western pharmaceutical companies have been opening up in Asia in the last few years introducing vaccination programs , and unsurprisingly autism rates have soared. 

 

Thanhniennews.com reports:

Saigon Tiep Thi newspaper Wednesday quoted a study from the National Hospital of Pediatrics as saying that the number of children diagnosed with autism at the Hanoi-based hospital’s Physiotherapy Department in 2007 was 50 times higher than in 2000

Korea is another country where autism rates have risen since the introduction of vaccination programs. Autism rates are as high as 1:38.

Autismsupportnetwork.com reports:

This study is further evidence that autism transcends cultural, geographic, and ethnic boundaries and that autism is a major global public health concern, not limited to the Western world

The following videos are doctors who decided to do their own research on vaccinations and decided to speak out against them.

Dr. Suzanne Humphries

Dr Toni Bark

Dr Shiv Chopra

Dr. Russel Blaylock

Dr Raymond Obomsawin

  • Atima Xavitna

    Yep same thing happened with those who escaped Somalia and emigrated to the US. They had little to no cases of autism but when they fled the wars & famine in Somalia and came here, they were forced to start vaccinating their kids to enroll in school, and all of a sudden, theit rates of autism began soaring. Such a shame that they risked their lives, to escape the civil unrest & poverty in Somalia, only to face a new and just as harmful threat in the so-called “land of the free”………….the insatiable greed & obsession with profit and government for sale inherent in the unregulated capitalism of American society!!

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/jabbg joan

      citation needed

      • L. Ivanov

        Don’t bother, they just believe blindly anything they’re told. Anti-vaxers are like mindless drones.

        • Cher

          From where I’m looking, you appear to be the mindless drone of which you speak.

        • Wendy

          How exactly are we mindles drones. Did you read the inserts for every vaccination you received? Did you look up all of the ingredients to fully understand what you were putting into yours or someone else’s bodies? Have you spend months pouring over people’s statements, reading the vaccine injury report? Or did you just o to your doctor and they did vaccine good you take now or u will die ? I am thinking you are the mindless drone who does what everyone says . By the way you are due for your boosters ho shoot up

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          A CDC disciple who thinks he has a mind of his own? Cute!

    • suchnothing

      Was it actual new cases of autism, or just better availability of diagnosis and treatment? Mental health support is woefully inadequate in most refugee situations, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the rate of diagnosis that changed, and not the actual instances of autism.

      • L. Ivanov

        An excellent point. Diagnostic criteria have become more precise (and also broader) in recent times, which is the reason for the “increase” of autism.

        In truth, the number of autistic people has hardly changed. It’s just that these people were diagnosed differently in the past (or simply locked up in institutions).

        • Kiwimommy

          That is so wrong I don’t even know where to begin. Autism is a profound disability with some pretty profound symptoms. No one was missing autism 30 years ago and the percentages for other disabilities have not changed.

          1) My state went from 6 children in the entire state known to have autism to now over 10,000. Yes that is over TEN THOUSAND in 20 years. That is outrageous for anyone to posit this is from better diagnostics.

          2) As a former President of an Autism organization I met thousands of these families and not ONE, meaning ZERO were able to get a diagnosis from their pediatrician
          or family phyisician. In fact they all denied denied denied. Told them to wait and see, told them boys develop slower, told them they were worrying over nothing. Most had to go outside their standard care-givers to get an answer as
          to what was wrong with their child. The glaring symptoms of autism were hitting their own doctors over the head like a baseball bat and they couldn’t SEE IT!
          Even the CDC said parental concerns are being ignored on average of 1 1/2 years before action is taken. So much for better diagnosing. And if they are so lacking in knowledge that they can’t even recognize Autism, imagine how good
          they are at treating it or recommending sound treatments to families. It’s a train wreck.

          3) Schools and tenured teachers know the truth and they are terrified. The rates have continued to skyrocket and the problems they are seeing is devastating. The rates of disabled on IEPs has jumped most noticeably in small schools from less than 5% to over 30%. 1 in 2 children have a disease or disability requiring medical treatment. 1 in 5 has asthma, 1 in 10 a life-threatening food allergy, we are seeing insulin dependent diabetes, Crohn’s, Celiac, RA, MS, and cancers rising at around 15% per year and no one can explain why. But the most profound change is in the neurological health of our children where 1 in 50 now
          have autism and 1 in 6 a neurological disorder. I don’t care what they were called in the past we would have dealt with them, we would have had them in our schools, our churches, our communities. And even Aspergers would not have been missed. But most of the kids with Autism are profoundly affected and would have never been missed or labeled otherwise. If you want to believe that 30 years
          ago no one would have noticed children that flapped their arms and hands constantly, toe-walked, couldn’t speak or made screeching noises, constantly covered their ears, couldn’t be potty trained, couldn’t sit in a classroom or
          needed a one-on-one aide to do so, couldn’t make eye contact, couldn’t stand the touch of clothing or humans, ate only 3 foods or ate things not even considered food, had seizures, lashed out at others during meltdowns or
          seriously self-injured themselves banging their heads on walls, furniture and sidewalks, biting themselves, or pulled out their own hair. Yep, somehow these kids just slipped through the cracks, graduated, went to college, married and
          now have kids of their own. Who could possibly believe such garbage?

          4) Whisked away to institutions and we just didn’t know about them? Well, where are they today and where are the numbers we are seeing today? And how come in my town where everyone knows everyone we never heard of a normal baby suddenly regressing. How come we never knew of a single baby that suddenly disappeared and no one knows what happened? And how would that be possible since Autism isn’t diagnosed on average until the age of 4 or 5, we would have known about these kids whether sent off to institutions or not. There were NONE, again ZERO. But now, today, that same tiny town, most the same families, well we have Autism classrooms bulging at the seams and many without a formal diagnosis with
          similar issues or “autistic like tendencies”. A school once without a single special ed teacher in grade, jr. high, or our high schools because there was no need and now we have huge departments in all 3 schools. The autism population in our high school has doubled every 2 years for the last 10. 34% of the children are on IEPs, we have “drug cubbies” to hand out the insulin, epi-pens, and massive amounts of anti-psychotics and neuroleptics to children. In 30 years in this town there was one child with mild retardation and he went to school like everyone else and one child that had cancer. But now, it is hard to find ANY child without something wrong. Our high school graduates about 35 kids a year on average and our once non-existen special ed department is now responsible for 39 kids. How is this not an urgent tragedy?

          5) Your theory holds no water. And as Social Security is already sending up the red flags as this generation starts aging into adulthood and 1 in 50 are signing up for Social Security and medicare for life, at the peak of the baby boomer retirements, well the denials cannot continue. Adult services in most states now have 10 year waiting lists because of the skyrocketing numbers. And what do they do in the mean time? Most cannot go to college, they certainly cannot join the miltary, most will not even drive a car to be able to get a job, and most will require group homes or institutional living to care for and protect them at the same time. Especially as their parents die and there is no one left to care for them but us, the taxpayers. We have already passed the point of sustainability.

          6) The CDC has released new numbers every 5 years, though they sit on those for 5 years before announcing them so even when they do they are already 5 years old. They should have released new ones this year and they have not. Admittedly it is only a rumor, but we hear they are sitting on them because the new numbers are 1 in 25. We already know it is 1 in 18 in black boy babies. An MIT professor recently announced that by 2020 the numbers will be 1 in 2. And I am pretty sure we will still have people sitting around like you, claiming it is all just better diagnosis, we have always had 1 in 2 children with autism and just didn’t notice!

          7) Autism is an epidemic, now a pandemic. It cannot be genetic, there is no such thing as a genetic epidemic. We have children once progressing normally, suddenly stop and regress, losing language, physical skills, and social skills.
          Never heard of this happening in my lifetime until now and now I know far too many. And while not all, the majority all say the same thing, an eerily similar story….my perfect child at 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, even 7 years old, received a ton of vaccines in a single visit 6 vaccines or even 9 vaccines in a single visit and reacted badly, fevers, convulsions, encephalitic screams, some hospitalized and fighting for their lives and they never recovered. Skills lost, very ill health, damaged guts and immune systems, chronically ill, and eventually they were told that this new reality is called Autism. Tens of thousands of families and we ignore them. No it is actually much worse than that; we attack them, ridicule them, call them tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists, call them liars. No
          one can deny their children, they are ill, they are suffering, they are autistic, but we call the parents liars and baby-killers for daring to even tell their story.

          “The number of autistic people has hardly changed.” I don’t know what rock or cave you are living in, but Autism is everywhere around us. These kids are wandering and drowning, being murdered by parents, being thrown off of
          airplanes, overwhelming schools, churches, communities, doctors offices, service providers, adult services, and now Social Security and medicare. I never knew a single person growing up or as an adult that even came close to the problems these kids have, well until now. I never knew anyone with asthma or food allergies, never knew a kid with type 1 diabetes,and only knew one in my first 20 years of life with cancer. Now all are commonplace. Those of us
          questioning this are not the whackos, but those suggesting we continue on the same path, more of the same hoping for a different outcome, those claiming vaccines are necessary for healthy kids while we produce the most unhealthy
          kids in the history of the world. I say THAT is the insanity and simply denying it is not going to fix it or make it go away.

          I suggest you get out more. We have a crisis, an epidemic, an entire generation of chronically ill and brain damaged children. And all is being ignored while industry and the media whip up panic, fear, and frenzy over the measles. I
          would give a million dollars for a do-over, to unvaccinate my child and face the measles as I did as a child. I would take that any day over watching her spend the rest of her natural life with this devastating disorder called Autism that has stolen any opportunity at a normal life, along with much of the family who will have to watch and protect her for the rest of her natural life. If you grew up in a big city, perhaps it is understandable that things went on and you were just not aware. You couldn’t know everybody so perhaps kids you could believe that kids were whisked away to institutions. But there are a million tiny towns in America that know this is complete propaganda. And we ignore the reality and the truth at our own peril.

        • Emma

          Beautiful. Thank you for being a voice of reason and science.

      • Amber Ramirez

        How many truly autistic kids did you know growing up? The ones that are obviously autistic, not the aspbergers side of the spectrum? I didn’t know any. My parents never had friends with autistic kids. My kids know several.

        • suchnothing

          Looking back, I think I knew about one or two at my elementary school, but it was so segregated and not talked about, you know? Or maybe I just wasn’t paying attention because, you know, I was a little kid. My mom also babysat a kid with pretty severe developmental problems, but I can’t remember if it was autism or something else. I knew a lot of kids on the higher functioning end too.

          Just because you can’t remember seeing it as a kid doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Maybe your schools didn’t have programs for severely challenged kids so they simply weren’t around the same environments as you. My elementary school did, and my parents were involved in childcare, so I saw a bit more of it.

          • Emma

            Precisely.

        • Emma

          This is called anecdotal evidence, which does not form a strong basis for any argument.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            Just like all that anecdotal evidence about the MMR vaccine saving lives.

      • Emma

        Good comment. Thank you for your voice of reason in this debate which has become alarmingly full of personal attacks. I agree with your point and have made the same point in my post. I wonder if anyone actually read the original article in Thanhniennews.com that does not make a single mention of vaccinations being a causal factor in the rise of reported autism. Please claim to be “aware” but what they are not aware of is their own emotional bias and lack of scrutiny of the logical fallacies of their argument.

      • John

        @ suchnothing: So however you define autism, the symptoms are obvious and it does not take a trained eye to see the results. So let’s take a look at old people. How many autistic old people do you see that have these same symptoms? NO, it is not a diagnostic problem.

    • Angela Street Peña

      STOP SPREADING THIS BULLSHIT. People have died from measles and diphtheria for the first time in years in just the past week. You are an idiot if you really think vaccines are not one of the greatest advances in public health ever. For all of you “get back to nature” followers, enjoy your 40 year life span and 1 in 4 infant death rate. But hey, at least they won’t be autistic! Just dead.

      • JerPan

        NOBODY has died from the measles. Site your sources or shut your LYING mouth.

        • Angela Street Peña
          • JerPan

            “The woman was on medication that had weakened her immune system, Washington State Department of Health spokesman Donn Moyer told reporters”.
            This was NOT an unvaccinated child you fool.

          • Angela Street Peña

            Did I say it was an unvaccinated child? Also, are you an immunologist? A doctor? Nurse?

          • JerPan

            ” People have died from measles” PEOPLE meaning MORE THAN ONE. This is ONE CASE in 12 YEARS, and you see that as a reason to subject your child to over 48 vaccines? Who are YOU? The vaccine police? God? To tell other people what is best for THEIR children!!!

          • Angela Street Peña

            You are truly exhausting. Please refer to my earlier post, reread if necessary, about the backfire effect, and may God have mercy on your soul.

          • JerPan

            Backfire effect? LOL!! The only backfire effect comes from the vaccines. ONE PERSON dies from measles and that is your reasoning for poisoning EVERYONE. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!!

          • Angela Street Peña

            Sigh.

          • JerPan

            Of course that’s the best you can do when you have been defeated. Some vaccines are necessary, I am not completely against ALL vaccinations. All I KNOW is that as a child I received a TOTAL of 6 vaccinations. I am fine. Had all of the childhood “diseases” and NONE of them killed ME or 99% of that generation. It’s OUT OF CONTROL, and to say with ABSOLUTION that vaccines are not related to other sickness is CRAZY!! You do NOT know EVERYTHING. You have an OPINION. Although in the last 40 years the doctors I have seen have become robotic idiots, not focusing on the WELL BEING of people, but just towing the big pharma line, and that is EXACTLY who you are. A bought and paid for mouthpiece. So SIGH all you want, those of us that can critically THINK, don’t believe you.
            MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!!!

          • JerPan

            Here I will school you some MORE “doctor”….

            SEATTLE (AP) — A woman killed by measles in Washington state had been vaccinated against the disease as a child but succumbed because she had a compromised immune system, a local health official told a TV station.

            The woman’s death was the first from measles in the U.S. in 12 years and the first in the state in 25 years.

            The case wasn’t related to a recent outbreak that started at Disneyland and triggered a national debate about vaccinations, according to the Washington State Department of Health. Officials said it was a different strain.

            The Washington woman lacked some of the measles’ common symptoms, such as a rash, so the infection wasn’t discovered until an autopsy, department spokesman Donn Moyer said Thursday

          • Riggers

            Funny she claims the vaccine saves lives but it didn’t save this life. She is okay with thousands of children having autism to save lives but her own proof shows that the vaccine didn’t even save that life in this case….

          • JW

            Sorry, but they can’t find her immunization record to prove that she was fully vaccinated. Isn’t that obvious ? When your immune system is already deteriorating like her pneumonia case, many died of pneumonia itself….common sense…

          • Carol

            I would search for an article with more detailed information. I believe I
            read that she died from pneumonia. It was during the autopsy that they
            found Measles antibodies. The main stream media is jumping on a chance
            to say that this person died from Measles but she died from Pneumonia
            because she had a weekend immune system. I would bet that if she had not
            been on the meds bringing down her immune system she would have
            recovered from whatever gave her the pneumonia and lived never even
            knowing she had the measles. You should also do some research on Vitamin
            A and how it is shown to reduce complications from measles by over 50%.

          • JW

            They said she was vaccinated but they can’t find her immunization record. If you missed one booster of your immunization, still it’s incomplete and you can still get it especially when her health is already deteriorating from pneumonia….her immune system has a hard time coping. That’s understandable and no need to explain. You always find way to blame vaccine but check your genetic defects if vaccine is not perfect our genetic is NOT perfect too…

          • JerPan

            Were you just thrown off the turnip truck today? NOBODY has died from measles in the US for over 12 YEARS. Do you know how many MILLIONS have had measles in the last 12 YEARS? Your comment is as ridiculous as you.

          • JW

            Maybe my comment is ridiculous but I am talking about worldwide and NOT only U.S. I was born in third world country and I had friends who died of measles when we were little. So far nobody died of measles here in U.S. except for the immunocompromised lady because as soon as they’ve seen the symptoms like the Disneyland case they treat it as soon as possible. Here in U.S., lucky you don’t die easily because doctors/nurse/paramedics and etc. want to save your life from dying….everybody is afraid of dying….

          • JerPan

            All it takes is simple antibiotics. And yes, your comment is ridiculous.

          • John

            JerPan, I agree with much of what you are saying here, but just a factoid you need to know is that measles is caused by a virus, not a bacteria. The only thing an antibiotic addresses is a bacterial infection.

          • JerPan

            I don’t care. The FACT is nobody has died from measles recently and people who are not vaccinated are no threat to others.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            The immune system cannot function optimally without adequate calories, nutrition and clean drinking water.
            I don’t know what third world country you are from but crowded living conditions and squalor are also an issue when it comes to disease transmission.

          • JW

            Sounds like you are an angry little birdy there lol

          • JerPan

            Sounds like you are a stupid little bird there. LMAO!!

          • JW

            You invested a lot of energy here, JerPan….We have different opinions so be it…

          • JerPan

            Then just shut your idiotic mouth.

          • JW

            You’ve been here for 4 days and I just been here since yesterday. Is this part of your job?

          • JerPan

            LOL!! You really are just too stupid for words. When you comment it goes to my mail box you idiot.

          • JW

            You are funny as it is…it’s entertaining…

          • JerPan

            I bet watching grass grow entertains you.

          • JW

            Oh yes! At least grass grows peacefully than watching you bitching and cussing around because they don’t agree of what you’re saying….
            When you teach information to a child or adult, you don’t need to tell them you are moron, idiot or chinga tu madre. It says a lot of you that you have lack of patience and so much anger….that’s a bad role model of our society….

          • Erwin Alber

            “Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity.”
            Dr Herbert Shelton, USA

            Indeed. It’s like a contagious mental illness.

          • NoToGMOs

            What specific kind of doctor are you? How many credits of advanced immunology did you take in medical school?

          • Angela Street Peña

            6 hours and two seminars, thanks for asking! I’m understandably hesitant to state what and where I practice, I’m sure you can see why. How many did you take? Did you do the seminar that Harvard offered a few years back, it was really fascinating. They conducted it in several different facilities, if you missed it, you should try to catch it again, I think they’re having another round spring of 16.

          • Red_Ruffensor

            Probably more than Jenny McCarthy did. I’m just guessing, though.

          • Erwin Alber

            Keep in mind that Jenny McCarthy has more functioning brain cells than all the pro-vax immunologists and doctors combined.

          • Red Ruffensor

            Nice try. Be sure to play again!

        • Angela Street Peña
        • Angela Street Peña
        • Angela Street Peña

          I will assume those are enough citations to prove I do not have a LYING mouth. Do your research before you attack. And learn to spell.

        • Angela Street Peña

          No real point in arguing with you anyway. One more citiation to illustrate why. I really pray that your kids don’t contract and potentially die from completely preventable diseases because their parent can’t admit they are dead wrong.
          http://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/i-dont-want-to-be-right

          • JerPan

            And I pray yours don’t die or become autistic because you were too ignorant to KNOW what actually they were being injected with, and have to explain that mommy just believed what she was told.

          • Angela Street Peña

            My daughter has Aspergers, just like her dad, and I think she’s perfect just the way she is. And to answer your earlier question, no, I’m not God, or the vaccine police. I’m a Doctor.

          • JerPan

            Ok so you’re a “doctor”. One obviously with a God complex. You don’t know anymore than the average person what is ACTUALLY in those vaccines. You are obviously a voice for the people that pay you. Are you one of those doctors that ask pharmaceutical reps how they should treat their patients? Because I KNOW a lot of doctors do that. They spend 5 BILLION on advertising, but also spend 45 BILLION on lobbying you doctors. You are a sell out. PERIOD!!

          • John

            @ JerPan:

            Please realize that drug companies are hiring PR firms to come here and promote their garbage. If you will notice this guy or gal, who knows – maybe both? lol, logged on here as a “Guest.” What does that tell you?

            Here are 5 Videos of a MEDICAL DOCTOR that has done
            extensive research and actually read over 6,000 medical studies and papers recommended by the CDC for researching vaccines and the details everyone in America needs to be able to evaluate whether to vaccinate or not.

            YouTUBE: watch?v=mpx8-Rmf8bc
            Youtube: watch?v=djxoqJKD5pQ
            Youtube: watch?v=1oYAVLDyR6Y
            Youtube: watch?v=msGJwaUVdno
            Youtube: watch?v=rwlWqvxlEgk

            Video date showing vaccines did not cause infectious diseases to decline.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuHra7ZcAa8

          • John

            There are TRADE SECRET LAWS being invoked by manufacturers of vaccines that are getting away with not disclosing many ingredients in vaccines. And the FDA allows mercury to still be put in vaccines because they created this level of mercury that can be put in and still call them mercury free! That is collusion and hiding the truth from anyone wanting to know. A good example of this is the PEANUT OIL they are putting in that is not disclosed in any of the literature due to this Trade Secret law.

            As part of his researched testimony, Doctor Buttram chronicled the use of peanut oil in vaccines, which proves rather interesting. After penicillin was invented (1945) researchers found that the kidneys excreted it within 3 hours thereby rendering it ineffective. In order to prolong penicillin’s action it was mixed with 4 to 4.8 percent beeswax and peanut oil. As a result, penicillin was slowly released as the body metabolized the oil. To further extend penicillin’s effects, penicillin with aluminum monostearate was added to make a solution suspended in peanut oil that kept blood levels of penicillin up to 24 to 26 hours. In 1964 Merck produced the adjuvant 65-4 that contained up to 65 percent peanut oil plus Arlasel A, aluminum stearate, and other ingredients with 13-fold higher levels of antibodies than previous vaccines. During the 1970s and 1980s peanut oil became a common practice and ingredient in vaccines. Coincidentally, peanut allergies began rising exponentially in children as more vaccines were administered. Heather Fraser in her 2010 book, The History of the Peanut Allergy Epidemic, documents this.

            Concomitantly, hospital records indicate anaphylaxis reactions to vaccines. In the USA there were rising incidences of food anaphylaxis in children under five years of age. Hospital records in the USA further indicate that Emergency Room records indicated an increase of anaphylaxis from 671 per 100,000 during 1992-94 to 876 per 100,000 in 1995. More than 90 percent of all food allergy fatalities were documented as due to ingestion of peanuts and tree nuts, a 1991 study revealed. Nevertheless, in 2009 the prevalence of peanut allergy in children under 18 years of age amounted to more than 2 percent in both the United States and Britain. Additionally, in the U.S. during 2009, about 4.5 million people were allergic to peanuts, or about 1.5 percent of the population.

          • John

            It’s not just autism! That is hiding the real problem to focus on autism. ADHD, ADD, Asberger’s, Autism, Schizophrenia, and many other neuro degenerative diseases are a result of these vaccines that make up the whole spectrum of ailments. This is far bigger a problem than Autism that is being focused on because the symptoms are so heinous! It is the massive amounts of Ritalin and other drugs being given to these children that need to be included in these problems! When that is done, the damage is overwhelming! To even say vaccines are not a contributor to all this is ludicrous, dereliction of responsibility and CRIMINAL!

        • Ron

          An American has died from measles for the first time since 2003!!

          Alert: http://www.cdc.gov/measles/

          She was infected at a hospital visit from an infected person after a recent local outbreak caused by… anti vaxxers:
          https://websrv7.clallam.net/…/PHalerts20150313135804.pdf

          From the above press release:

          FIFTH CASE OF MEASLES IN CLALLAM COUNTY CONFIRMED

          Laboratory testing has confirmed a fifth case of measles in Clallam County this year. The case is an adult relative of two earlier cases who was thought to be immune to measles. This latest case was exposed to one of the earlier cases during their infectious period.

          A total of five cases of measles have been confirmed in Clallam County since February. The first four cases occurred among individuals who were not vaccinated against measles.

          From the local public health reports for the county the woman who died was likely infected by the 5th case, who was infected by his relatives, two unvaccinated siblings, one 5 and one 14. So not anti vaxxers?

          • JerPan

            She died, and she was vaccinated. NONE of the others have died. Measles are NOTHING!!!

          • Kiwimommy

            She died from pneumonia and they found the measles virus in her bloodwork. Could have been from her own measles vaccines and is certainly not proof that the measles even caused her pneumonia or death at all.
            Thousands of kids with autism have been found to have persistent measles virus in their guts and bloodwork, nobody is claiming they have the measles.

            I didn’t see them claiming that the measles found in her bloodwork was or was not the vaccine strain. You would think if it was not they would be singing that from the rooftops. Instead we seem to be getting “crickets” when we ask that question.

          • D Davis

            Exactly! And what if she got the measles from a vaccinated germy virus shedder spreading their illnesses on the masses? We don’t hear anything about that either despite the scientific fact live virus vaccines cause shedding. Why vaccinate if it makes us contagious for up to 6 weeks? Makes no sense!

          • John

            @ D Davis: You can now know in your heart that your idea is very probable and most likely the scenario that happened. Here is a great story that uses the medical people the POISON INJECTORS accept as credible. So what have they got to say about this? NOTHING.

            Go to Merck website, maker of MMR vaccine. It states the MMR vaccine is a live virus vaccine. Then go to St. Jude Patient visiting Guidelines on their website. St. Jude does not allow the recently vaccinated with live virus vaccines to visit their patients because the recently vaccinated could pass that live virus that was just injected into their body’s to pass to the young cancer patients who have weakened immune systems. Yes it is all there, see for yourself.

          • Erwin Alber

            That’s because vaccination is not based on sense or science, but an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science.

          • JW

            Did not prove any immunization record, they can’t find it…you can die just pneumonia itself…
            Really? Measles are NOTHING? I guess you have NOT experience that lol

          • JerPan

            I have, and I am fine. Guess you are just a vaccine head.

          • JerPan

            THAT is WHY idiot, she did NOT die from MEASLES. If you READ about it, she died from immune complications and didn’t find out she had measles until the autopsy. SHE DID NOT DIE FROM MEASLES!!

          • JW

            Smart panty, Dr. Google JerPan….

          • JerPan

            You really are a moron and just proved it once again. Try learning how to write English.

          • JW

            Someone is pissed lol

          • JerPan

            Someone is a MORON. LOL!!

          • JW

            You’re acting like a kid. Grow up!

          • JerPan

            Up yours you infantile little bug.

          • JW

            Here it is! lol. Say whatever you want to say and it looks bad on you….

          • JerPan

            Still don’t know how to write English. Stupid little gook.

          • JW

            English is my second language, Idiot! At least I know more than one language lol.

          • JerPan

            Sounds like it’s your 10th language the way you butcher it. I know 3 languages, just not gook.

          • JW

            Bravo!

          • Marc Cutler

            Just think if he was a Zionist “gook.” Then you could really hate him – you piece of shit.

          • JerPan

            He is that’s why I despise him even MORE!!

          • JW

            BTW, it is panty that I wrote. It is NOT wrong spelling hahaha

          • JerPan

            It’s used in the wrong context, IDIOT. HA HA HA HA!!

          • JW

            I did that panty on purpose, idiot hahaha…Don’t you get it! Someone is losing his fuel….

          • JerPan

            What you did on purpose was an excellent example of how stupid you are…LOL!!

          • JW

            Mas sira ulo ka pa!!! Tan awon nato kung makasabot pa ka ani…buang!Try other language other than English 😉

          • JerPan

            Chinga tu madre.

          • JW

            Is that really all you can say because I did not agree with you? Really? You are throwing tantrums because you did not get what you want???

          • JerPan

            That’s all that needs to be said. I don’t care if you disagree, but you did it like the moron you are.

          • JW

            Oh please! I don’t know you and you don’t know me so you have no right to judge me….

          • JerPan

            I can judge what you write, and what you write is idiotic.

          • JW

            Oh, God! Ok, understandable!

          • Erwin Alber

            Love this: “…she died from immune complications and didn’t find out she had measles until the autopsy.”

            This would make a good horror movie! 🙂

          • John

            @ JW: Actually, I have watched many children get the measles, chickenpox, colds, and even the flu on occassion. What has that got to do with dying. The CDC has released the fact that NO ONE has died of the measles in 12 years of reporting. I guess for the last 12 years all over the U.S. with over 300 million people, NO ONE HAS EXPERIENCED SEEING SOMEONE DIE OF MEASLES.

          • JW

            I did when I was a kid. I saw my friend dying with measles.

          • Erwin Alber

            Every child’s death is a tragedy but the vaccine would not have prevented your friend’s death because vaccines don’t prevent, but PROMOTE ill-health.

          • John

            I think it’s great those kids will now have permanent immunity to measles as I do! In fact, you must not realize that getting vaccinated can give you the measles and then you become a carrier just from being vaccinated! Here’s a real life story you need to see and I’m using two medical entities to illustrate the danger of being vaccinated and turning your vaccinated children loose on the public:

            Go to Merck website, maker of MMR vaccine. It states the MMR vaccine is a live virus vaccine. Then go to St. Jude Patient visiting Guidelines on their website. St. Jude does not allow the recently vaccinated with live virus vaccines to visit their patients because the recently vaccinated could pass that live virus that was just injected into their body’s to pass to the young cancer patients who have weakened immune systems. Yes it is all there, see for yourself.

            So there, see how easy it is to prove a point with people the poison injectors trust and believe you have now been able to see the TRUTH for a change!

        • Tami

          NOBODY has died from the measles??? Here is some back up to site the fact that people do die from measles and it affect the unborn causing birth defects.

          http://www.measlesrubellainitiative.org/learn/the-problem

          http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm

          http://6abc.com/health/1991-the-philly-measles-outbreak-that-killed-9-children-/504818/

          • JerPan

            That happens in THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES where they don’t have access to antibiotics. You really are an idiot towing the government line all the while not knowing a THING about the subject.

          • JW

            We don’t have access to antibiotics?lol. In fact, we can easily access buying antibiotic in Asia compared here. We don’t need doctor’s prescription to get antibiotic unlike here in U.S. you need prescription before you buy antibiotic hahahaha…sorry JerPan wrong info…

          • JerPan

            Then why are you dying from measles idiot?

          • JW

            I am dying with your moroness hahaha…

          • JW

            I’m dying with your moroness hahaha

          • JerPan

            That’s not even a word you pathetic dolt. LOL!!

          • JW

            Is that all you can say? Wow! You might have a heart attack for being so pissed. Chill, dude!

          • Erwin Alber

            Yeah, so many pro-vaxers are continually stressed, I take it because they fear that the next virus or bacterium waiting for them on the door know of the public toilet they have visited is going to kill them. So pathetic!

          • Erwin Alber

            In Third World countries, malnutrition and measles are a deadly combination. In developed countries, only people with underlying health problems die of measles, or sometimes a child with measles some ignorant doctor gave a fever-lowering drug to, which is very dangerous.

          • Manzer Belanger

            These cases in the first link are world-wide – the USA = ZERO
            The second link shows the CDC talking about 1921. Sanitation has wiped out measles in the USA. Almost all gone by the time the vaccine was created.
            The third link shows a death in 1991. Since 1991 – the USA = ZERO
            I submit that you wake up and smell the coffee. You have just shown your ignorance on this subject !!!!

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            Measles almost never causes birth defects. I think you’re confusing measles with rubella.

          • Erwin Alber

            Your links are to well-known lie-generating outfits.

        • JHamm
          • JHamm

            There was a death last week.

          • JerPan

            She had a COMPRIMISED immune system fool. BECAUSE of that little FACT, she is THE ONLY one who has died in 12 years, INCLUDING all those that have gotten measles since then. What a moron you are.

          • JHamm

            Just sharing a story. This is why I don’t comment on anything. Relax, have another cup of coffee or whatever it is that perpetuates your agressive nature. I am sure you are a peach in person and really lovely to discuss anything with. As your significant other or whomever would attest to.

          • JerPan

            No, the story you shared was ridiculous. My “aggressive nature” comes from people like you that don’t know what they are talking about. DON’T chime in if you don’t know anything. Now go back and start waving your rainbow flag.

          • JHamm

            WTF does a rainbow flag have to do with anything. Are you for or against Vacs? Hard to tell. Threw that article out for an opinion, which you clearly have. I am actually trying to find info on this subject. I was vaccinated, my kids were vaccinated without incindent and now trying to decide if a grandchild should be. Can you give me a valid opinion on the subject rather than bashing my intelligence. Actually I am pretty smart and in my quest for knowledge reading alot of info good and bad. Obviously that article sucked a**. So tell me, what should I do vaccinate or not? What info do you have that backs your side? I know people that have had their children have side effects others none.

          • JerPan

            Make your own decisions. YOU were not vaccinated 48 times like they are today, and neither were your children. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!

          • JHamm

            JerPan
            Pretty much nothing out there is going to convince me to vaccinate I just thought I would see if anything has changed or weakened my position…..=( Here is a repeat of my reply to someone else who thought I was pro vac because I didn’t state my position clearly out of the gate.” Which I should have to avoid being called a morin lol if someone comes after me for being anti, stick up for me JerPan 😉

            *Actually I am totally against them and it is getting to the point
            where they are going to mandate it in my state….What do you do? I live
            in a small community where, anti GMO bills are passed, home schooIing and charter schools are very much the norm. She is pushing two and has had NONE. I was reading this
            article regarding autism in Asia because it caught my eye and I wanted
            to show it to my daughter and then came across the other article
            regarding the death. That is why I posted it in the first place to get
            some feedback on it, not to be called a moron… I think vacs are
            poison. By stating my position outright I am clearly gonna get called
            more than a moron guaranteed. I think they are poison as well as much of
            the food chain which accounts for alot more than autism as far as
            childhood diseases etc… imho As far as my daughter/her husband, they
            are struggling with the decision, they don’t want to do it. Baby is
            getting to a pre-school age. She doesn’t do daycare, I watch her to
            avoid her getting sick and having to get shots which are required for
            daycare and pre school. So I am actually the opposite of your
            assumption. I just don’t like to get in verbal battles online…real
            life is enough of a challenge. Maybe me saying I got shots, my kids got
            shots with no incident is what made me seem pro-vac. I will finish that
            statement by saying the vaccines of today are not the same as 25+ years
            ago, not to mention all the different kinds you need now, I have a graph
            of all the shot you got in the 1980’s as opposed to now, the list is
            DOUBLE. They have bundled them, tweaked them, patented them, out sourced
            them to other countries….don’t even start me I am so pissed about the
            state of everything , gets disouraging. I used to worry about my kids, now I worry about my grandkids.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            You’ve already made up your mind about your grandchild, otherwise you wouldn’t be here defending vaccines.

          • JHamm

            Actually I am totally against them and it is getting to the point where they are going to mandate it in my state….What do you do? I live in a small community where home schooIing and charter schools are very much the norm. She is pushing two and has had NONE. I was reading this article regarding autism in Asia because it caught my eye and I wanted to show it to my daughter and then came across the other article regarding the death. That is why I posted it in the first place to get some feedback on it, not to be called a moron… I think vacs are poison. By stating my position outright I am clearly gonna get called more than a moron guaranteed. I think they are poison as well as much of the food chain which accounts for alot more than autism as far as childhood diseases etc… imho As far as my daughter/her husband, they are struggling with the decision, they don’t want to do it. Baby is getting to a pre-school age. She doesn’t do daycare, I watch her to avoid her getting sick and having to get shots which are required for daycare and pre school. So I am actually the opposite of your assumption. I just don’t like to get in verbal battles online…real life is enough of a challenge. Maybe me saying I got shots my kids got shots with no incident is what made me seem pro-vac. I will finish that statement by saying the vaccines of today are not the same as 25+ years ago, not to mention all the different kinds you need now, I have a graph of all the shot you got in the 1980’s as opposed to now, the list is DOUBLE. They have bundled them, tweaked them, patented them, out sourced them to other countries….don’t even start me I am so pissed about the state of everything , gets disouraging. I used to worry about my kids, now I worry about my grandkids.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            My apologies for misinterpreting your stance on vaccines.
            I read the comment about the measles death and I assumed that you were pro-vaccine which I guess was a silly assumption on my part.

          • John

            @ JHamm: Please tell me how you know your children or you, for that matter, have not been damaged by the vaccines you got? It appears you didn’t die, so that is only proof you didn’t die, not that the vaccine didn’t harm you. You seem to think you didn’t have symptoms that indicate damage. Is that your proof? Every drug is toxic to the body. Not every drug gives you symptoms you recognize as a health challenge to be dealt with later in life. Do you think those poisons just leave the body after you get the vaccine?

            I did not vaccinate my children and they are not vaccinating their children. They are incredibly healthy and have incredible immune systems. Do you know that doctors are killing more people than ANY major disease, like Cancer, Heart Disease, etc.?

            Would you take your car to a mechanic that was not fixing anyone’s car he worked on and then demanded he get paid even though your car was not fixed? How about going to a restaurant, ordering a dinner, and it was incredibly bad, smelled like feces, and the the owner demanded you pay even though you couldn’t eat it?

            So why would you pay a doctor that only gives you symptom treatment that makes you feel better while you deteriorate and never fixes the root cause? Gives you vaccines that have NO safety studies whatsoever to back up their claims of it being safe?

            In July 2004, Gary Null, Ph.D., Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D, Martin Feldman, M.D., Debora Rasio, M.D., Dorothy Smith, Ph.D. wrote a paper that revealed very disturbing facts regarding an annual iatrogenic (induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures) death rate of 783,936 in one year. It is further disturbing to realize that as few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic acts are ever reported. This means that that iatrogenic death rate of 783,936 is most likely much higher than indicated in the report. That is like ten fully loaded 747 jumbo jets crashing every day.

            As we look at the annual causes of death from degenerative diseases and other causes in America in 2004, it is obvious we are not good at solving this problem on any level.

            Heart Disease …… 652,000
            Cancer …………… 553,000
            Stroke …………… 150,000
            Accidents ………….112,000
            Diabetes …………..73,000
            Alzheimer’s………… 65,000
            Pneumonia Flu …. 59,000
            Suicide……………… 32,000

          • JHamm

            John, I get what you are saying COMPLETELY. I don’t really know do I? Do any of us that got vacs back in the day kow if we were affected. I agree with all you
            said. If you saw my post above I am very anti vacs.

            Unfortunately my younger self in my 20’s when I had kids trusted what she was being told by her government, since then I have had my eyes opened wide to big pharma, big corp and big gov. pretty much the same entity…. If you saw my post above I live in a very conscious community that has made national heaadlines for its stance against big corporate agendas, anti GMO and other hot topics.

            I have a degenerative spinal disease, almost paralyzed twice, full of titanium screws and rods and I am on no meds. That is not my idea of pain management. I have had a degenerative spinal disease since before I had children in my early 20’s. I have a pharmacy at my disposal and I choose natural alternatives. I would be a shell of the person I am today If I took the pharmacuetical route I had
            available to me.

            Thank you for your information I will be sharing it! Thanks for caring enough to educate me, that is how we will make the change that is needed to turn this planet around. Excuse the formatting in my other post, it won’t hold it. I really do know how to make a paragraph lol Who knows, maybe I got my degenerative disc disease because of the vaccines. We will never know….I agree with everything you said.

          • JHamm

            @John **Actually I am totally against them and it is getting to the point where they are going to mandate it in my state….What do you do? I live in a small community where, anti GMO bills are passed, home schooIing and charter schools are very much the norm. She is pushing two and has had NONE. I was reading this article regarding autism in Asia because it caught my eye and I wanted
            to show it to my daughter and then came across the other article
            regarding the death. That is why I posted it in the first place to get
            some feedback on it, not to be called a moron… I think vacs are
            poison. By stating my position outright I am clearly gonna get called
            more than a moron guaranteed. I think they are poison as well as much of the food chain which accounts for alot more than autism as far as childhood diseases etc… imho As far as my daughter/her husband, they are struggling with the decision, they don’t want to do it. Baby is getting to a pre-school age. She doesn’t do daycare, I watch her to avoid her getting sick and having to get shots which are required for daycare and pre school. So I am actually the opposite of your assumption. I just don’t like to get in verbal battles online…real life is enough of a challenge. Maybe me saying I got shots, my kids got shots with no incident is what made me seem pro-vac. I will finish that statement by saying the vaccines of today are not the same as 25+ years ago, not to mention all the different kinds you need now, I have a graph of all the shot you got in the 1980’s as opposed to now, the list is DOUBLE. They have bundled them, tweaked them, patented them, out sourced them to
            other countries….don’t even start me I am so pissed about the
            state of everything , gets disouraging. I used to worry about my kids, now I worry about my grandkids.

          • John

            JHamm: Thank you for your post to me. I am in the same boat in regard to your grandchildren. I came from medical industry family and was expected to be a Doctor or Dentist and took pre-med all through school. I have two science degrees, biology & chemistry. I have extensive research in nutrition that spans over 45 years. I am a certified nutritional therapist and am working with about 20 doctors, pediatricians, chiropractors, and specialists in oncology & cardiology that are not mainstream. I am currently researching neuro degenerative disorders and diseases down to the DNA level looking for ways to PROVE causation that is obvious to me, but not easy to prove. The reason for difficulty in proving the causation is an ethical issue because to prove something causes a problem you have to show it does. That involves damaging a person! I am having to take another ethical approach that involves determining the specific damage and then applying techniques that resolve the damage. The typical medical diagnostics used to examine parts of the body, like the brain and organs, fail to show the cause, so that is why they are telling people “they don’t know the cause.” If you can’t see it, how can you know or prove causation. In the last few years, two medical diagnostics have the potential to see the cause, but I have found another way to determine the exact cellular damage without needing these diagnostics. Of the 52 different areas of the brain, each one of those areas are constructed with different cellular structures! I am meeting with some doctors mid August to discuss the procedure we will use to identify the damage, to what extent the damage is in regard to how much of the cells are damaged, and then using the Merck Manual of Brain functions to each of these areas, determine the possibility of repair. This repair is key.

            The problem is that several elements can create this damage and the body can repair the damage on it’s own over time, but when the body is overwhelmed, the person gets symptoms and that’s where all these neuro degenerative diseases happen. Each disease exhibits symptoms and each disease affects different parts of the brain and organs, all dependent upon factors such as the age of the patient, stage of development of the brain or organs, the number of vaccines, the type of vaccine, and the other contributory factors. All of these items need to be quantified and the patient examined by adding or taking away all of the factors that contribute to the problem. We know vaccines are the major factor and in many cases simply put the patient (victim) over the threshold of damage and this is where you will see a child go into an autistic state within hours to a few days of getting a vaccine. This can also explain SIDS, things like schizophrenia of older teens and young adults, I believe even diseases like ALS and POTS.

            What it comes down to is we have a huge misunderstanding of disease in general and our medical system is notorious now for causing more disease than disease itself in America! That is a bold statement, but backed with peer reviewed data that has not been refuted in over 11 years! Vaccines are not necessary and in fact, prevent the normal building of a strong immune system, What these medical terrorist are assuming is that they know better than our immune system that is designed to protect us and it is the immune system that is under attack by many things they do and other insults created by our environment, chemicals, and other unnatural things. Ask yourself, why do the Amish not have these same problems? In fact, why are the Amish not affected by Tetanus & Diphtheria and have immunity to those? They are not being vaccinated! Why?

          • John

            In regard to my statement about our medical system causing disease, here is some information on that.

            In July 2004, Gary Null, Ph.D., Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D, Martin Feldman, M.D., Debora Rasio, M.D., Dorothy Smith, Ph.D. wrote a paper that revealed very disturbing facts regarding an annual iatrogenic (induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures) death rate of 783,936 in one year. It is further disturbing to realize that as few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic acts are ever reported. This means that that iatrogenic death rate of 783,936 is most likely much higher than indicated in the report. That is like ten fully loaded 747 jumbo jets crashing every day.

            As we look at the annual causes of death from degenerative diseases and other causes in America in 2004, it is obvious we are not good at solving this problem on any level.

            Heart Disease …… 652,000
            Cancer …………… 553,000
            Stroke …………… 150,000
            Accidents ………….112,000
            Diabetes……………..73,000
            Alzheimer’s ………… 65,000
            Pneumonia / Flu … . 59,000
            Suicide ……………… 32,000

          • John

            So if you are in a car accident and die, but you had the measles, does that mean you died of the measles? LOL. She died of pneumonia and was taking immune compromising drugs that made her susceptible to ALL diseases.

          • JHamm

            It was a bad article I posted it for opinions, not to look like an idiot…..didn’t work so well.lol

        • Jean Sha

          i think one person has recently they had some immune disorder but not generally no people dont die that often of measles unless they had a prior medical condition.

        • John

          @ JerPan: The CDC has reported that no one has died of the measles in the U.S. in 12 years. That is public information you can go there and see for yourself.

        • John

          The history of disease shows us that bad sanitation, lack of a variety of food, lack of good environmental controls, etc. created a lot of death and in many cases the children were not well due to malnutrition and the bad sanitation added to the likelihood of getting diseases. With compromised immune systems, there were lots of deaths as a result and many died in childbirth, etc. There were also lots of accidents where children would get infections and die, again, due to lack of sanitation and understanding of germs, etc. Once sanitation was made better, variety of food available all created far more healthy children that did not die of these diseases. In fact, these diseases became a way to develop strong immunity and those statistics are obvious when examining the data. The vaccines came on the scene after the death rates were incredibly low and so they took the credit, but did so as part of a marketing ploy, not reality. Many cases, as is happening today were created by the fully vaccinated children. Many of the illnesses we see in children today, like ear aches, bronchial infections, etc. are created by the vaccines.

      • Rodger Ramjet

        The same was said about Thalidomide is
        that “Bullshit”

        • Angela Street Peña

          During the time that thalidomide was discovered to have terrible side effects, the USFDA never approved it for what is was being used for, or at all, really. The director of the FDA refused to, due to lack of adequate testing. Also, we’re not talking about anti-emetics or any drug that has side effects on unborn children, of which there are many, including aspirin, we’re talking about vaccines that have been proven as safe and effective as they can be made to be. Every drug has nasty reactions that can happen, unfortunately, but the benefit outweighs the risk. And none of those vaccine reactions includes autism. Not one, regardless of what the screaming lunatic above would have you believe. I hope that clears things up, have a great weekend!

        • John

          Just so you know, they are still prescribing Thalidomide! Yes, that is true. Look it up! They now put warnings on it, but as a doctor you can prescribe it! These medical terrorists are not only ignorant, but are ruthless in their tactics and defending the indefensible with personal attacks, lies, and misinformation.

      • Ann

        You’re so stupid it’s laughable. Nobody died from measles, and the measles was spread BY PEOPLE WHO WERE MEASLES VACCINATED!. When vaccinations were invented, we had no water hygiene & toilets. We do now. So shut the fuck up. Our bodies have their own immune systems. We don’t need vaccines.

        • Angela Street Peña
        • Thomas Treadwell

          Maybe you need to read the news, a women has just died from the Measles and she was Vaccinated before, yes she had a week immune system, but it was the Measles that killed her.

          • Cher

            It was pneumonia that killed her. Her immune system was compromised, she was in the hospital being treated (with pharmaceuticals without any doubt) for something not identified in the article. The Medical Industry kills over 200,000 a year and one woman dies (supposedly) due to measles and we need to forcibly vaccinate everyone? Give me a break.

          • Joe Palooka

            No they kill a million a year with their screwups and garbage they pump into people.
            Iatrogenic deaths (death by doctor) in US annually = 999,936
            http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed/deaths.htm

          • John

            @ Cher: I’d like to upgrade your belief about the number one killer in America today.

            In July 2004, Gary Null, Ph.D., Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D, Martin Feldman, M.D., Debora Rasio, M.D., Dorothy Smith, Ph.D. wrote a paper that revealed very disturbing facts regarding an annual iatrogenic (induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures) death rate of 783,936 in one year. It is further disturbing to realize that as few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic acts are ever reported. This means that that iatrogenic death rate of 783,936 is most likely much higher than indicated in the report. That is like ten fully loaded 747 jumbo jets crashing every day.

            As we look at the annual causes of death from degenerative diseases and other causes in America in 2004, it is obvious we are not good at solving this problem on any level.

            Heart Disease…… 652,000
            Cancer…………… 553,000
            Stroke …………… 150,000
            Accidents ……… .112,000
            Diabetes …………..73,000
            Alzheimer’s ……… 65,000
            Pneumonia Flu …. 59,000
            Suicide………… … 32,000

            These numbers of doctor induced illnesses are for a period of ONE YEAR. So now let’s look at how many soldiers have died in combat in the entire history of the U.S. and make a comparison to the one year of medical science on ALL Americans.

            U.S. Casualties of War

            4,435 Revolutionary War
            364,511 Civil War
            116,516 World War I
            405,399 World War II
            36,574 Korean War
            58,220 Vietnam War (1965 – 1975)
            383 Gulf War (1990 – 1991)
            4,475 Iraq War (2003 – 2011)
            2,217 Afghanistan War (2001 – present)
            ———–

            992,730 TOTAL people lost in ALL wars

            So if you look at these statistics, it’s very clear that you stand a much better chance of survival being a soldier in a war than in a U.S. hospital!

          • Kevin Watson

            US? Take a look around the world – we aren’t alone….

          • sequence

            Don’t argue with Astroturf! All of them are not even real people! Look at Ted Talk “Astroturf” – Fascinating!

          • John

            Here
            is a great video to watch that explains ASTROTURF very clearly with hints how
            to avoid: Sharyl Attkisson talk at: TED TALK on February 2015

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU

          • Lindaxox

            Was it? It is one of the stupidest, vaguest, suspecious reports ever. No specific details have immerged, a nameless victim who died months ago from pneumonia but wait…it was actually measles.

          • John

            @ Lindaxox: It is like saying a person that died in a car accident died of measles because that person had measles. Same kind of logic medical spin doctors are promoting. Ridiculous.

          • Erwin Alber

            Yes, but never let a business opportunity like a chance to scare people into getting their children poisoned for profit under the pretext of “immunising” them go to waste!

          • Jason

            Maybe you should stop reading/watching the news and start thinking for yourself. No offense Thomas, but if you haven’t realized by now that the media is controlled by pharmaceutical companies, there’s no hope for you. Wake up and realize that the mainstream media only reports in favour of these companies so they don’t hurt their bottom line!

          • John

            @ Jason: What these medical terrorists are doing to America is far more damaging than most people realize. The problem is that they have huge bags of money and are buying politicians, doctors, and the media. In the media, you will see what is called astroturfing.

            Astroturf is the effort on the part of special interest, corporate interest, and political interest to sway public opinion surreptitiously and make it seem as though these are grassroots efforts. That there’s a groundswell of opinion for or against certain agenda when maybe there is not. That they can turn to things like social media-Facebook and Twitter–using pseudonyms and multiple accounts to spread things around. They use their partners who blog for them, write things, and pick up on one another’s work until sometimes it’s been picked up in the mainstream media as if it’s a fact. It’s all intended to make you feel as though if you hold a certain opinion that they don’t want you to have, you’re the outlier. Everybody else agrees with “X” except you, and that may not be the truth. This is a huge business.

            It’s become commonplace in Washington. People know astroturf only in terms of they’ve seen it and maybe they’ve suspected there are these propaganda efforts but they’re not sure what’s behind it. There are actually PR firms that specialize in these sorts of tactics. Astroturfing is now more important, according to lobbyists and these PR firms, to many clients than the direct lobbying of Congress because it’s so effective to reach out to the public. They may have someone write a letter to the editor and you don’t know that person’s being paid by a special interest to advance a certain opinion. They may start as a nonprofit without saying out front that they’re behind the nonprofit. The nonprofit may then look like a charity that’s advancing a certain opinion, which is actually acting on behalf of the corporate interest or the special interest. Again, it’s very widespread. Here’s one example that I feel is astroturf about the Washington Redskins’ name. If you watched the news in past year, read social media, by and large, you would have to conclude that most Americans think that the name is offensive and that it ought to be changed. But something like over 70 percent total of Americans think the name should not be changed. So why is it that everything you see when you’re exposed in the media makes you think otherwise? That’s a sign of an astroturf campaign. Astroturfer’s, also they use key language I found, such as crank, crack, nutty, pseudo, conspiracy, and other language that’s effective with the public to try to make you dismiss an argument that they don’t like.

            They tend to attack those who are questioning authority rather than themselves questioning authority. They would go after reporters who are exposing the truth, whistle-blowers who dare to step forward, and people asking the tough questions. All these hallmarks are things that you can look for that are often signs of an astroturf campaign.

          • Simon Green

            I have about 100 yards of High grade tinfoil, would you like it? It’s the most effective way I’ve found to stop the pharma company satellites from reading my thoughts and giving me migraines. Since using the tinfoil I’ve had no migraines and have not had to buy big pharma’s painkillers to stop them.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            Nice strawman, but trust you to be stockpiling the tinfoil.

          • Simon Green

            Yep, I have a huge shed full of quality tinfoil. Just waiting for people to wake up and realise the overlords are using the satellites against us. Once they do I’ll be selling it of by the foot for a tidy profit.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            Look, I understand that you clearly worship government as much as I do. Who can blame you. They’ve commission the building of roads, and quite frankly, I don’t know what we’d do without roads.
            I do however object to your usage of the word ‘overlord’ to describe government.
            Government is not some dictator. It wants to be involved with us all on a deeply intimate level but only because it loves us very much.
            I frankly don’t see the problem with that.

          • Plum Remson

            Good effort on trying to marginalize people who have an opinion different from “yours” (compensated) or plain old yours (heartfelt and motivated by fervent concern for the well-being of humanity), whichever it is. Did you perhaps purchase your tinfoil from the minority that first realized that tobacco use correlated with higher cancer rates? Or that DDT, while it “worked” killing insects, had unforeseen and deleterious side effects on human and animal health? When reading comments on this topic, I have taken to asking myself: “Is this commenter adding clarity and value to this complex conversation?” I’m pretty certain that driving around cyber-town, shoveling piles of the word “tinfoil” of the back of a comment stream pick up truck, is the opposite of adding value and clarity.

          • taree

            Well said, Plum Remson!

          • John

            Good luck with your marketing spin. If you get the drug companies to sponsor you, I’m sure you will find plenty of naive people to go for it.

          • AutismDadd

            In other words you prefer nonsense to discussion

          • John

            I suggest the painkillers you used have damaged your ability to reason and are making emotional decisions, but seems there may be hope for you except how you are being perceived with the tin foil hat.

          • Kevin Watson

            You’d better keep that – I think you’ll need it.

          • Joe Palooka

            You are a non thinking chowderhead. She did not die of measles,period. She died of pneumonia and a fried immune system probably from toxic western drugs and it could be proven that measles had nothing to do with it since she was not “showing” which mean her viral load was virtually nil and not a factor. Crawl back under your rock.

          • Get A Grip

            Look. They tell us 100,000 people die from measles every year. What they are not telling you is that those numbers are global numbers- there has not been a death from measles in the U.S. in 12+ years. Look up the 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. you will see hospital/doctors mistakes errors. Those being vaccinated with live viruses can shed the disease for weeks after vaccination, in some cases even months after a live virus vaccine, and risks spreading to the non vaccinated and also to the previous vaccinated. Vaccine Industry has immunity- are protected from any lawsuits and class actions for injuries/damage– while our Federal Vaccine Injury Court is in place paying out billions over the years funded by tax payers. Many cases of vaccine injured — you think they are going to promote the many harmed, damaged for life? Billions of dollars money making business- greed over health. They need many sick and ill patients- its keeps them in business. Just from looking at CDCs own lists of vaccines and their ingredients is disturbing enough- MRC-5 Wi-38 (aborted fetal cells/human diploid cells), calf serum, monkey kidney cells, insect cells, canine cells, chicken embryo cells, formeldahyde (a known cancer causing agent), traces of thimerosol and etc etc etc. And pump pump pump away on children/infants and adults and really believing vaccines have not a darn thing to do with much of the health issues, chronic, cancers, learning disabilities and autism going on?

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            The 100,000 deaths from Measles is a figure that WHO has plucked from thin air.
            There is no evidence to even back it up.

          • John

            How do you attribute ANY disease to the death of a patient? You have to have full disclosure and understand all the circumstances behind the death. It is very commonly said in Europe that “No one dies of CANCER in Europe.” How can they say that? We know that 50% of people that get chemotherapy die of HEART ATTACKS. They died of heart failure, not the cancer, even though they had cancer. Kidney failure, dehydration, all kinds of things people die of, but not the cancer. Certainly if they had not had cancer, they most likely would not have had the other problems, but CANCER itself rarely kills anyone.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            I agree with you!

          • John

            Here are 5 Videos of a MEDICAL DOCTOR that has done extensive research and actually read over 6,000 medical studies and papers recommended by the CDC for researching vaccines and the details everyone in America needs to be able to evaluate whether to vaccinate or not.

            YouTUBE: watch?v=mpx8-Rmf8bc
            Youtube: watch?v=djxoqJKD5pQ
            Youtube: watch?v=1oYAVLDyR6Y
            Youtube: watch?v=msGJwaUVdno
            Youtube: watch?v=rwlWqvxlEgk

            Video date showing vaccines did not cause infectious diseases to decline.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuHra7ZcAa8

            The more educated you become on this subject, the more you will see through the FALSE information being promoted by medical in the U.S.

          • Au35

            The reason there has not been a death from measles in the USA for more than 12 years is that most people get vaccinated. But in places without vaccinations, people do die from measles, which is why 100,000 people die each year world wide. Your own argument proves you wrong!!

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            No. It’s because people in the US are generally not deficient in calories, or vitamin A and they are not living in overcrowded houses.
            Autopsies are not typically carried out in third world countries so stop quoting over-exaggerated estimates.

            100,000 people do not die of measles each year world wide.
            Autopsies are not typically carried out in third world countries so stop quoting over-exaggerated estimates.

          • JerPan

            “The reason there has not been a death from measles in the USA for more than 12 years is that most people get vaccinated.” WRONG. They don’t die because we have antibiotics if they get it. MILLIONS have gotten the measles over the last 12 years, and NOBODY has died in the US.

          • Erwin Alber

            That’s BS. Antibiotics are for bacterial infections, not viral diseases. Measles is a viral disease. In Third World countries, children die from measles because they are malnourished, or because their parents leave their child outside in the cold African night to lower the fever. In developed countries, measles is a generally mild disease no normal child dies from.

          • JerPan

            Then tell me what they treat it with fool. Whatever it is, my statement is still correct, you DON’T need a vaccine in order to save you from the measles. It’s a harmless virus!!

          • Erwin Alber

            Agreed! I an virtually every other child of my generation got measles and other childhood illnesses, yet I never knew of anyone to suffer harm let alone to die as a result. On the contrary, we developed strong immune systems and lifelong immunity, unlike today’s children who are systematically poisoned with vaccines to the point where they suffer from an array of vaccine-induced chronic illnesses.

          • Li

            Please tell me more about vaccine-induced chronic illnesses and the systematic poison we receive????? And please for the love of all that is good provide some sort of scientific evidence for anything that you are saying. As you and the commentor above you stated, measles is generally a mild illness. However, it is by no means “harmless.” Complications occur in 40% of measles cases. Vaccination programs are important because they help increase the average age of infection by shifting the burden of disease away from infants (who have the highest case fatality). PS: nice irrelevant picture…thimerosal is no longer used in any vaccines in the US, except SOME flu vaccines.

          • John

            @ LI: I suggest you are willingly ignorant (dumb on purpose) or you have been indoctrinated by the best of the best to actually believe what you are saying. First of all, Thimerosol is still put in every vaccine. As long as the level is below what the FDA allows, the vaccine can be claimed to be mercury free. Do your homework on that before telling people that. If you look up vaccine ingredients, you will see vaccines are loaded with all kinds of poisons that generate many illnesses. In fact, vaccines route of entry into the body subjects the victim that turns on the TH-2 side of immunity that is generally an allergic reaction. That is less than 20% of the entire immune response and actually diminishes the IGA response and increases the susceptibility of the victim to become sick. Most children that are vaccinated get lots of ear infections, bronchial infections, and in ALL cases get reduced oxygen to the tissues of every part of the body, especially to the water shed areas supplying oxygen from red blood cells. The aluminum hydroxide +3 valence cation creates a huge Negative Zeta Potential in the blood causing a positively charged blood coagulating the poisons (as designed) and making the red blood cells stick together and coagulate preventing the blood flow to various areas in the brain, mitral valve in the heart, intestines, and other organs throughout the body! This causes many cells to die and requires the body to repair this damage as best it can. When the body is overwhelmed by this oxygen deprivation, you start seeing all these neuro degenerative diseases like ADD, ADHD, Autism, Asberger’s, schizophrenia and in many, many cases mini-ischemic strokes that can be seen in the faces of these children after a vaccine! This shows the damage being done to one or more of the 12 cranial nerves due to lack of oxygen to those tissues!

            If a mother breast feeds her infant for 2 years, that infant won’t get measles or many of the other infectious diseases and that infant will develop a strong immune system that more than easily deals with those diseases like measles, chickenpox, etc. and prevents many cancer’s such as ovarian cancer for example in the child has they age.

            What in the word are those complications you are referring to of those 40% you are claiming they get? Are those mother’s breast feeding? Vaccination programs are NOT IMPORTANT and in fact are damaging every child with every vaccine given and increasing diseases and complications!

            Vaccines do NOT create herd immunity as well! Get educated and stop spreading misinformation!

          • John

            Correct. Measles is a viral infection. It is also an airborne disease and is contracted by breathing in the virus that activates the part of the immune system that constitutes 80% of our immunity. The nasal & lung mucosa are activated to produce antiviral substances that trigger cloning the antibodies that takes about 5 days. When the rash appears, it is indicative of the healing cycle the body is going through. NOW the person gets permanent immunity that cannot happen from any vaccine. This is what creates herd immunity that a vaccine can never do! In fact, the vaccine causes the child to become a carrier and can and does give others the disease!

          • Kevin Watson

            As you say, Measles is a virus that typically doesn’t kill people – they die from secondary bacterial infections like pneumonia. Infections that are treated with….. ANTIBIOTICS.

            Are you new to this whole “medicine” thing?

          • Erwin Alber

            That may be true in Third World countries because of malnutrition, but not in the developed world. My brother, two sisters and myself had like all children of our generation measles and virtually every other childhood illness going yet none of us had any of the complications or antibiotics you speak of. Measles was a normal part of childhood which helped us develop strong immune systems and life-long immunity and parents wouldn’t even dream of consulting a doctor if their child got measles because there was no treatment any doctor could offer. The childhood illnesses including the fever and the rash (or in the case of mumps the swelling) were simply left to run their course.

            It was only when a vaccine became available that measles was promoted as a killer disease second only to Ebola. What a monumental load of horse manure!

          • John

            WRONG. Measles is a mild disease and when you get the rash, you are in the stage where it is healing. Getting the measles gives you permanent immunity and the poison injection does not. In fact, breast feeding an infant for 2 years keeps the infant from getting the measles for those two years and then when the child’s immune system is created, the measles give them permanent immunity and protects them from some cancer’s later in life! That is real immunity. That creates the herd immunity vaccines cannot and can never give anyone!

          • JerPan

            You’re a moron answering something months old. Get back on the short bus.

          • Erwin Alber

            Exactly! I maintain that vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science.

          • Erwin Alber

            Vaccines have never protected anyone or saved anyone’s life, or prevented anything, apart from health, sanity and common sense.

            Vaccines are in fact designed, made and used to PROMOTE ill-health, NOT to prevent it.

            Wake up and smell the stench of deception and corruption!

          • John

            The CDC puts out false information all the time and in the movie VAXXED that I saw shows how they hid and are hiding the facts about vaccines causing autism. The CDC put out a report that showed 35,000 people died of the flu in one year. The real data and facts showed only 1,200 (approx.) died in that year due to the flu and most of those were older people that had many other illnesses they could have blamed, but because they had the flu as well, blamed the flu. That 35,000 study was a VIRTUAL STUDY of estimated numbers. It took a lot of digging to find the source of that data that even the CDC had to look to find where it came from.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            Maybe you ought to stop reading the news or at the very least, dig a little deeper.
            The woman died from pneumonia and upon autopsy, it was found that she had antibodies to Measles.
            Naturally, because the media wanted so badly for the Measles outbreak to finally kill a person, they blamed this immunocompromised womans unfortunate death on Measles.

          • John

            @ Thomas: Cher is right, it was pneumonia that she died from. She was on anti-immunity drugs suppressing her ability to fight ANY illness. Are you not reading these stories completely, or are you willingly ignorant (dumb on purpose. So here is another story you can examine from the comfort of your own home that counters your BELIEF system that you obviously have regarding vaccines and how they work.

            And yes, this story is current and ON-GOING I might add:

            Go to Merck website, maker of MMR vaccine. It states the MMR vaccine is a live virus vaccine. Then go to St. Jude Patient visiting Guidelines on their website. St. Jude does not allow the recently vaccinated with live virus vaccines to visit their patients because the recently vaccinated could pass that live virus that was just injected into their body’s to pass to the young cancer patients who have weakened immune systems. Yes it is all there, see for yourself.

            So, even the medical profession understands that a vaccine can cause illness in another person! In fact, that vaccinated person becomes a carrier of the disease. Since the immunity from a vaccine is temporary, even that vaccinated person can become immune compromised from getting the vaccination!

            Do you seriously fear the measles or chickenpox? Do you know that many colds are infectious diseases that you assume are just a cold virus? Polio is one of those, 96 to 98% of those people that caught polio never knew they had it and became permanently immune to it by catching the disease. Only about 1% got the debilitating type and did so because they were immune compromised!

          • John

            He is not reading the entire story; he is not about finding truth and is only interested in supporting his “BELIEF” he thinks are facts and using sarcasm to appear to be intelligent, but by ignoring the facts makes himself feel better about his belief. THIS is a true idiot that fits the dictionary definition!

          • sequence

            Presents of Measles virus they discovered during autopsy DOES NOT mean she died from Measles! PERIOD!

          • anne_48503

            No… it was the vaccine that didn’t work that killed her. A waste of time. I wonder if the vaccine came just before she died.

            I had the measles… I didn’t die. I was a kid at the time… probably right after I got the shot for school. It is so easily traced back to shots almost every time. The problem… for profit health care. Lets deal with the problem… shots are not the only problem where people are being given drugs that are worse than the disease they fight.

          • susan

            actually thomas you are wrong,, the woman had underlying issues and that is what killed her,, the measles story just sold news,,,

          • Erwin Alber

            Junk news to promote the junk science of vaccination.

          • PithHelmut

            Not necessarily. That’s something someone with a bias would say. Vaccines attack the immune system and weaken them. If she had simply had the measles when she was a kid, her immune system would have been “exercised” properly and protected her when she came in contact with measles as an adult. No point in getting vaccines if you’re going to die from a childhood disease.

          • ritualhollow1

            Wrong.

          • John

            I did read the news. In fact, I looked into this death. This woman had many other problems that could have been blamed for her death, but the MEDICAL SPIN doctors needed any case they could find to obfuscate the truth and blamed the measles on her death! RIDICULOUS and a very lame piece of evidence to use!

          • Erwin Alber

            They are getting desperate trying to promote their injectable toxic potions. They are such brainwashed morons, not to mention child abusers and child killers who poison defenseless babies for profit on behalf of big pharma. .

          • richardruscoe

            And the vaccination that weakened her immunity.

        • Simon Green

          So what about all the people who died of measles before there was a vaccine for it? What did they die of and how did they get measles? Or are you just rewriting history to suit yourself?

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            All the people lol. You make it sound as if death from measles was once common.
            the 1 in 1000 figure widely reported only refers to cases of measles that were diagnosed via serology.
            What about the vast majority of patients who recovered just fine at home?
            Besides, there have been so many improvements in hygiene, better living standards and sanitation over the years which you seem to be conveniently ignoring.

          • feli

            history lesson: due to the disgusting nature of European society (forgetting about their mother) many people died of dis-ease…..when European man came to america (among other places) they encountered societies which were dis-ease free (because they respected their mother) 500 years later we have a dis-eased planet…moral of the story stop raping and polluting your mother (environment) and take it EASY

          • John

            The earth is NOT my mother by any stretch of the imagination. GOD gave us a perfect earth and man has systematically destroyed it and has taken a belief and considered it a fact. Start with that and then peel the onion of truth and you will see the layers upon layers of lies that are being promoted by ignoring the evidence all motivated by greed and avarice!

          • phil

            do u know GOD written backwards is DOG u want truth u cant handle the truth google legal name fraud u have a contract via ur legal name and iits not with god get ready for soul harvesting season

          • Darryl Andre

            Damn John, you almost had me swayed to your belief that vaccines might actually be a bad thing. Then you mentioned God and lost all your credibility. It’s a shame how someone so hell bent (pardon me for that insertion) on providing evidence to dispel evidence can throw it all away by believing in something with no evidence. And so it goes.

          • John

            Good question Simon. If you look at the real data for infectious diseases that include all kinds of diseases, the deaths were due to sanitation. So when sanitation, better variety of food became available, etc. the infectious diseases declined greatly and when the vaccine were introduced, the decline actually began to increase. Typhoid is a good example of a major disease that took lots of lives decreased and became almost non-existent due to sanitation, but it never had a vaccine. Polio is another one. 95% of the people that got polio thought they had a cold. The shot came along when polio was almost out of the human race because everyone was becoming immune. Jonas Salk that invented the dead virus vaccine admitted to a Congressional hearing that his vaccine cause more polio than the disease itself. Many countries that never saw a single vaccine saw polio go out of the population. Because the polio shot needed publicity to make it look like it was a good thing to support the hype they created, they actually classified polio as spinal meningitis to obfuscate the truth. This is all very well documented, but due to drug company ASTROTURFING, this and many other truths are not being told. THIS is about money, not health.

          • phil

            bla bla bla u dont know where u stand u see if earth is not ur mother then ur not from here that means u can rape as much as u want u c u wouldnt rape ur mother unless u into that so keep on going not long now….my mother is the divine feminine our creative force….humans have been submerged in masculine energy for a long time now its time for balance wholesome high vibrations love compassion so put down ur ego and lets start the real work

          • John

            Thank you for this chart, but these indoctrinated, uneducated, lazy, naive people do not want to see or hear the facts! They rely on their “BELIEFS” as facts and listen to the LIES and misinformation from drug companies and doctors that choose to hide the truth to promote their LIES. I think it has to do with the white coats they wear or the plaque on the wall that looks so impressive making them like a zombie and just believe anything that so called “educated” person tells them!

          • Erwin Alber

            They died because of poor living conditions. Death rates declined as living conditions improved and exposure to measles brought about natural herd immunity. Vaccines had nothing to do with the decline as these two graphs – one from the USA and the other from England – show:

    • ketac6

      How often is autism diagnosed in Somalia and how much of that is due to general lack of healthcare and lack of recognition of the condition? If you want to compare statistics for the USA and Somalia then you need to recognise that these two countries are very different. You may also want to think about just how many cases of measles etc. there are among children in Somalia compared to the USA and how often children develop complications from easily preventable diseases.

    • jasonv

      Fascinating how people who fled from a warzone where they couldn’t get access to doctors ‘suddenly’ find they have illnesses when they are able to get access to medical treatment. Maybe when they get access to mirrors they might find they have a few grey hairs, better blame the first world on that too.

    • ketac6

      Oh dear, I think my comment got deleted. All I wanted to say was that the healthcare systems in the US and Somalia are not equivalent and the recognition of autism in both countries is also not equivalent. Therefore you cannot say that children emigrating to the US developed autism on arrival because you cannot easily compare the numbers diagnosed in Somalia to the numbers diagnosed in the US.

  • Concerned

    For the last fucking time, vaccines do NOT cause autism.

    • JerPan

      For the last fucking time, SHUT UP, yes they do!!!

      • L. Ivanov

        No, they don’t. People are born autistic.

        Besides, autism existed long before vaccines. Got any explanation for that? 😉

        • JerPan

          Yes, and when it did exist BRFORE vaccines in was 1 in 10,000. NOW AFTER vaccines it’s 1 in54. You are a complete moron if you don’t see the correlation.

          • Chels

            OR, and this is just going out on a limb…

            The spectrum of what’s considered “autism” has been broadened in the last 50 years, leading to much higher diagnostic rates and recognition and intervention.

            Before, people with mild versions were either simply social outcasts or considered “eccentric” but they did exist.

            Now, with the advancement of medicine and mental health, people are being diagnosed earlier and better.

            Vaccines do not cause autism. Parents just look for something to blame, and it is pure coincidence that there’s a round of vaccines that happen to occur right around the age that autism symptoms start to become noticeable.

            If vaccines DID cause autism, people who don’t get vaccines would not get autism. It is far more likely that it is simply caused by genetics or maybe even weird hormones people get exposed to in the womb thanks to poor agricultural practices or plastics or something. Not vaccines though.

          • JerPan

            “If vaccines DID cause autism, people who don’t get vaccines wo uld not get autism”…
            That is just REDICULOUS!!! That’s like saying, well if smoking causes cancer, those who don’t smoke wouldn’t get cancer. Cancer, like autism, happens to some people. BUT we KNOW smoking causes MORE instances of cancer, just like VACCINES cause more instances of autism. There is NO DENYING the correlation. As the AMOUNT of vaccines have increased, SO HAS the number of cases of autism. I don’t know who you people are, but you are blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to this subject.

          • TaD

            Funny. You can add your assertions with no evidence. I have 4 kids on the spectrum, where’s your evidence vax played a role. And no, not with my kids…. With kids in general. All of the “studies” have been debunked. Where’s the peer review? Or… Do you have an excuse for that too?

          • Kiwimommy

            Where is the peer review for the government’s ginned up studies? There are none. The Verstraeten study which would have been the nail in the coffin was altered by the government. When tons of scientists wanted to peer review they were told NO. When they filed through court to get the data to study, the CDC sold it to a private company so you could not even get it thrugh the FOIA. There is NO peer review of CDC studies but there is a review of what they did to make it GO AWAY! Please, if anyone can explain how their actions had any other motive please state so.
            Found a correlation of 7.6 between thimerisol, total amounts, and age at which it was injected. 2.0 will win in a court of law that A caused B. We have the emails where he is instructed to make it go away, and even some suggestions of how to do it and none of them are ethical. The relative risk for premature babies was 10.0.
            1) They first excluded any children who had been given Hepatitis B immunoglobulins. These kids had the highest thimerisol exposure and the worst outcomes in ALL measured cateogries.
            2) They added back in kids under 3 knowing they would not have a diagnosis of Autism yet.
            3) They changed diagnostic criteria to first diagnosis. So if a child was diagnosed with language delay at two but Autism at four, they could only count the child as language delayed.
            4) They added back in 17,000 kids originally excluded because they were born with birth defects.
            5) They brought in an obscure HMO out of Maine that was ironically being investigated for their record keeping and was knowingly too small to make any correlative findings. Then claimed that the study could not be replicated in this HMO even though they knew the numbers were too small to purse out any findings.
            Anyone? Buhler? Anyone?

        • Mike B

          Your understanding of autism seems to be poor. My son developed typically until age 15 months when he began conspicuously losing previously-learned skills and avoiding eye contact, suggesting the symptoms of autism appeared then, or the actual condition itself possibly wasn’t present until caused or triggered by something. I know dozens of autistic families personally and the basic details of my son’s story (fine at birth and for months, up to 2-3 years and then the symptoms started appearing). Also, I assume you are referencing Leo Kanner’s (or possibly Hans Asperger’s) work when you state that “autism existed long before vaccines”. There are many reasons to believe that Kanner’s autistic patients had little or no relationship with the modern developmental disorder we call autism or the “autistic spectrum” today.

          • Mike B

            Oops, meant to say that the details of my son’s story are shared by most parents of autistic children that I know.

          • L. Ivanov

            Your son has always been autistic, you simply did not notice it.

            It is impossible for osmeone to be born normal and then become autistic later – these are the facts. Are you really going to argue against the entire scientific community? Do you really think you’re smarter than them?

          • Kiwimommy

            That is utter nonsense. Regressive autism is a rather recent phenomena but it is real. The University of Washington did a study reviewed family home videos of hundreds of kids with autism and found tell-tale signs in some and pointed out to these parents things they may have missed.
            But even more telling was the huge percentage that the experts said there were NO signs, they reassured the parents “You missed nothing, your child was developing pefectly and then regressed.”
            Autism is not genetic. There is no such thing as a genetic epidemic.

          • AutismDad

            Look up spontaneous/ sporatic autism

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            If those who develop regressive autism are born with it then perhaps you’d like to explain the 6% greater brain volume that the average child with regressive autism has compared with their non-autistic same aged counterpart?
            Why does this massive increase in brain volume only commence around about the 12-18 month age bracket (the same time that the symptoms of regressive autism are observed) and NOT before this time or even inside the womb?
            Autism is brain inflammation trigged by an acute autoimmune response.
            Perhaps you should consider rephrasing your question so it reads, “Do you really think you are smarter than doctors who recommended camels or scientists who declared that asbestos was safe? Are you really going to argue against scientific dogma?”

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          Smoking can cause lung cancer but it’s not the only cause.
          The same could be said for vaccines and autism.

    • Wendy

      Prove it!!! Bette yet go tell my sister her son can’t speak and is 5 years old

    • Kiwimommy

      EXCEPT WHEN THEY DO!

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      They do. The courts have conceded that they do. Vaccine inserts warn that they can.
      83 studies have found a strong link. How much more evidence do you need before you accept the obvious?

      • Concerned

        Since when are courts considered medical or scientific experts?

        There is literally not a single established scientific/medical journal with a credible peer-reviewed study supporting a link.

        Fox News and ‘naturalhealthsource.xxx’ do not count as ‘studies’.

        Go away.

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          Vaccine courts rely on scientific testimony and evidence.
          Take your own advice and get lost.
          Take your own advice and get lost.

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          I already replied to you but because disqus managed to screw my comment up, here it is again.

          Vaccine courts rely on scientific testimony and evidence.
          There are at least 83 credible scientific studies which have found a link, none of which have been debunked. Someone has already posted them so I’m not going to bother posting them again. You can read through them if you like, and point out which ones you disagree with and why, and I’ll be happy to discuss that with you if you agree to refrain from acting like a self-righteous bigoted moron by telling me to go away.

          As for fox news and naturalhealthsourcewhatever, so what?
          Aren’t third parties allowed to quote other reputable sources, or is that against the law now?
          Your critical thinking skills are sub par.
          Wake up to yourself.

          • Concerned

            Put up, or shut up – no links, no discussion.

  • L. Ivanov

    This is bullshit. Autism is not “caused” by anything – people are BORN that way.

    I repeat – autism is not caused, you are born that way. It is impossible to a child to be born normal and then suddenly become autistic afterwards.

    Educate yourself before believing the lies publiushed by anti-vaxxer sites.

    • Nguyễn Cường VN

      stupid!

      • L. Ivanov

        No, I have done my research. There is no evidence vaccines could cause autism.

        • Kiwimommy

          Oh, well there you have it folks. HE has done HIS research….case closed.
          Perhaps you left out the Verstraeten study that found a 7.6 correlation before the government made it go away and tried to bury the original results. And Peer Review? Never peer reviewed because the government sold the database to a private company so it could not even be accessed through the Freedom of Information Act. Yes show me the peer review!
          I have researched this for 20 years and the government is lying and covering up the data.
          Eli Lilly Ryder
          Verstraeten Study
          Danish Study
          William Thompson
          Brick Township
          Simpsonwood
          Merk Whistleblowers
          Paul Thorsen
          87 autism cases compensated in vaccine court
          Do you need any more, I have lots!????

    • JerPan

      You’re a moron.

      • L. Ivanov

        No, I have done my research. There is no evidence vaccines could cause autism.

        Besides, autism existed long before vaccines. How do you explain that?

        • Riggers

          Besides children being completely normal then suddenly changing as reported by thousands of parents a year. I guess all the other children were born autistic and those kids were just that way but “seemed” completely normal until suddenly they didn’t…

        • FACTS
          • L. Ivanov

            It is irrelevant – people are born autistic. The change happens long before the individual comes into contact with a vaccine.

            Do you even know what autism is?

          • Kiwimommy

            Since they are now vaccinating pregnant women and babies on the day of birth, how could anyone develop anything prior to coming into contact with a vaccine. The government scientists are saying that regressive autism is real and these children were NOT born with it.

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          Where is your evidence that autism existed long before vaccines?
          When were doctors first diagnosing autism?

    • FACTS

      Federal Court Compensated 83 Vaccine-Injured Autistic Children

      New study uncovered 83 federal-court- adjudicated cases of autism
      linked to vaccine-induced injury–thereby unmasking government
      duplicity.

      For over 20 years, the
      federal government has vehemently denied a vaccine-autism link. But a
      new study, the first to examine the successfully adjudicated cases of
      vaccine-induced brain injury by the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation
      Program (VICP), uncovered 83 cases of autism among those who
      have been compensated for vaccine-­induced brain damage–most notably,
      “encephalopathy,”
      “residual seizure disorder,” “developmental regression.”

      The evidence uncovered by this study, clearly
      belies public pronouncements by government officials who have for decades misled
      the public by claiming emphatically that
      “no evidence exists linking autism to vaccines” and “no case of
      vaccine-­induced autism has ever been compensated.”

      The peer-reviewed study by Mary
      Holland, Research Scholar and Director of the Graduate Legal Skills Program,
      NYU School of Law; Louis Conte, Robert Krakow, and Lisa Colin, was published in
      the Pace Environmental Law Review .

      The authors relied on evidence recorded in VICP court documents. Their review
      of 170 adjudicated cases, found that 83 children with autism received compensation
      for vaccine-induced injury. That number, the authors note, is probably the tip
      of an iceberg.

      The overwhelming
      majority of petitioners in the VICP have not received compensation.

      Of the
      13,755 claims filed in the VICP to date, 2,621 awards have been paid, or less
      than 1 in 5 ofthe total number of claims filed. So far, 5,277 claims have
      been dismissed and 5,857 claims are pending. In all, 2,500 cases have been
      compensated by VICP.

      The 83 cases of children diagnosed with
      autism who were compensated for vaccine-induced brain damage, demonstrate that the VICP court has quietly,
      though inconsistently, compensated some children who suffered vaccine-­induced neurological damage associated
      with autism–since the inception of the VICP program in 1986.

      The study is likely to ignite the
      acrimonious debate about vaccine-induced autism. The findings raise serious questions
      about the unfair, inconsistent, inequitable treatment the VICP has applied to
      thousands of similar cases that have been brought before it.

      How do the 5,000 cases of “autism” that
      the VICP rejected in the Omnibus Autism Proceeding (2010) differ from the cases
      of “encephalopathy” and “seizure disorder” that the VICP has compensated before
      and since?

      The catalyst for this Pace law review
      of VICP published compensated cases, was the case of Hannah Poling. In a 2008 report submitted to the VICP
      (which was leaked to the press) the Health and Human Services administration
      “conceded” that vaccines had
      triggered Hannah Poling’s encephalopathy and subsequent developmental regression.
      HHS’s description of the child’s condition implied a distinction between “autism-­like
      symptoms” and “autism,” although there was no ambiguity that Hannah Poling in
      fact had autism.

      In 2010, the VICP court award Poling
      $1.5 million, while denying other similarly injured children compensation.
      Nevertheless, in March 3, 2011, HHS baldly disclaimed its own 2008 “concession”
      document, stating in its Statistics Report: “HHS has never concluded in any
      case that autism was caused by vaccination.”

      • L. Ivanov

        Lies and misdirection – just the kind of stuff we’d expect from anti-vaxers.

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          What is it specifically that you disagree with and why?

    • Kiwimommy

      Your own government disagrees with you. Thomas Insel disagrees with you. Autism can be caused by many things, illnesses, and yes even vaccines.

    • D Davis

      Evidence?

      • Awesome Blank Avatar

        She just dropped a whole legion of evidence right into your lap.
        What more do you want?

  • J

    This article is riddled with holes. As population has grown, and infant mortality rates have dropped, and the condition is more readily diagnosable, clearly there will be many more cases of autism. Putting you’re neighbors at risk, and needless to say, your own children, of contracting preventable diseases is negligent, irresponsible, ignorant and selfish! We are a modern society and so it is time that people stop behaving like cavemen. Vaccinate your kids!

    • JerPan

      I see you keep trolling any story about vaccines. Would you just admit you work for big pharma?

      • L. Ivanov

        You better put on your tin foil hat – the Illuminati might brainwash you with their HAARP!

        • JerPan

          Oh I guess big Pharmaceutical companies don’t exist? You really are a MORON…LOL!!

        • D Davis

          As with name calling,the tinfoil hat comments mean you lose. Even if someone really is paranoid,it doe not diminish their legitimate points and concerns. You folks need to step up your hustle.

    • Tami

      I agree with you. We have higher population rates, more health risk with our food, our air and water. More food additives, chemicals put in and on our food. We are having more kids diagnosed as on the Autism spectrum due to more diagnosis and better child cre.

    • Li

      From the comments I read this is one of the only intelligent thing said in this entire thread.

  • Footloose

    Even if vaccines did cause autism (which they don’t), I’d still vaccinate my boys. Why? Because being autistic is better than being dead. Autistic kids need more help, but they are still kids. They have favorite foods, they dance around, they enjoy spending time with their families. Saying that death by preventable disease is better than autism is an enormous insult to all autistic kids and their families, as well as being ignorant and cold.

    • Kiwimommy

      Saying that not vaccinating = death is obnoxious. Wonder how we all survived before there were 70 vaccines by the age of 18? I can tell you, a hell of a lot better off and healthier than kids today.

      • AutismDad

        Exactly. We older persons NEVER had all these vaccines and we never died and we are still not dead. The good old days when doctors were doctors, not drug pushing shills.

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      If you think that all kids with autism ‘dance around’ and ‘enjoy spending time with their families’ then I have a bridge to sell you.
      I could be a bitch by wishing low functioning autism on your next child but I’m not going to let my anger blind me to the fact that no child deserves a life sentence of torture, which is exactly what many children at the lower functioning end of the autistic spectrum (and their carers) endure on a 24 hr 7 day a week basis.

  • Leanne Hildebrand

    Vaccines do NOT cause autism but even if they did I’d rather a living child with autism than a dead one from measles or whooping cough. You people are obviously too young to remember the deadly outbreaks of the past. I’m not. I lost a cousin to measles in the early ’50’s.
    All I can think is stupid stupid stupid!

    • BronwynST

      That’s only because you don’t have a child with Autism. Many are the screaming , seizing, violent, walking dead. Have you donated your time to a vaccine injured family? Have you donated your time to a family living with autism?

      • L. Ivanov

        I am living with autism. How about that?

        And no, vaccines do not cause it. This is a stupid myth perpetuated by ignorant people and religious fanatics.

        • Tami

          I agree with you that vaccines do not cause autism. I agree it is a myth perpetuated by incompetent scientist doing fraudulent studies and “Liberals” – not religious fanatics.

          • D Davis

            Then why is it listed on page 11 of the Tripedia vaccine package insert label as a reported post marketing adverse effect? Do you still believe cigarettes don’t cause lung cancer too? Go take a Vioxx pharma shill.

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          Are you screaming, seizing, violent, finger painting in your own poo, non-verbal, curled up in a ball, smashing holes through walls, chronically constipated and fully reliant on diapers?

          I’m guessing the answer is no in which case, you do not represent anyone who is on the more severe end of the scale.

    • Kiwimommy

      All I can think is Blind Blind Blind. This is not a comparison; a lifelong disability that impairs the ability to function vs. a once normal childhood illness that was seldom fatal. I am not too young. A rash for a few days, got to stay home from school, all my siblings had it, all our friends had it. Never knew anyone personally that had a problem. Obviously you did and I am sorry for your loss. But I know tons of people now with children that had serious vaccine reactions and will live with the consequences for the rest of their lives, and a few that buried their children due to vaccine reactions.
      Are you telling me in America, we can’t figure out a way to control contagious disease without sacrificing children to make that happen or damaging some for life and claiming they were simply collateral damage, a necesary sacrifice for the good of the herd. That would be like me telling you that your cousin was a necessary sacrifice so the rest of us could have natural and lifelong immunity, without needing 70 shots and boosters in the first years of our life.

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      Healthy children do not die of Measles.
      Mothers who have immunity through natural exposure to whooping cough have immunity to protect their newborns.
      Health care has come a long way in seventy years.

  • Tom Jones

    The headline is not backed up by the two articles quoted and the videos are of a general nature. The only way this argument can be won is by well thought out well referenced articles. Ones such as this can only diminish the argument and provides ammunition for those who wish to refute

  • FACTS

    Federal Court Compensated 83 Vaccine-Injured Autistic Children

    Tuesday, 10 May 2011

    New study uncovered 83 federal-court- adjudicated cases of autism
    linked to vaccine-induced injury–thereby unmasking government
    duplicity.

    For over 20 years, the
    federal government has vehemently denied a vaccine-autism link. But a
    new study, the first to examine the successfully adjudicated cases of
    vaccine-induced brain injury by the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation
    Program (VICP), uncovered 83 cases of autism among those who
    have been compensated for vaccine-­induced brain damage–most notably,
    “encephalopathy,”
    “residual seizure disorder,” “developmental regression.”

    The evidence uncovered by this study, clearly
    belies public pronouncements by government officials who have for decades misled
    the public by claiming emphatically that
    “no evidence exists linking autism to vaccines” and “no case of
    vaccine-­induced autism has ever been compensated.”

    The peer-reviewed study by Mary
    Holland, Research Scholar and Director of the Graduate Legal Skills Program,
    NYU School of Law; Louis Conte, Robert Krakow, and Lisa Colin, was published in
    the Pace Environmental Law Review .

    The authors relied on evidence recorded in VICP court documents. Their review
    of 170 adjudicated cases, found that 83 children with autism received compensation
    for vaccine-induced injury. That number, the authors note, is probably the tip
    of an iceberg.

    The overwhelming
    majority of petitioners in the VICP have not received compensation.

    Of the
    13,755 claims filed in the VICP to date, 2,621 awards have been paid, or less
    than 1 in 5 ofthe total number of claims filed. So far, 5,277 claims have
    been dismissed and 5,857 claims are pending. In all, 2,500 cases have been
    compensated by VICP.

    The 83 cases of children diagnosed with
    autism who were compensated for vaccine-induced brain damage, demonstrate that the VICP court has quietly,
    though inconsistently, compensated some children who suffered vaccine-­induced neurological damage associated
    with autism–since the inception of the VICP program in 1986.

    The study is likely to ignite the
    acrimonious debate about vaccine-induced autism. The findings raise serious questions
    about the unfair, inconsistent, inequitable treatment the VICP has applied to
    thousands of similar cases that have been brought before it.

    How do the 5,000 cases of “autism” that
    the VICP rejected in the Omnibus Autism Proceeding (2010) differ from the cases
    of “encephalopathy” and “seizure disorder” that the VICP has compensated before
    and since?

    The catalyst for this Pace law review
    of VICP published compensated cases, was the case of Hannah Poling. In a 2008 report submitted to the VICP
    (which was leaked to the press) the Health and Human Services administration
    “conceded” that vaccines had
    triggered Hannah Poling’s encephalopathy and subsequent developmental regression.
    HHS’s description of the child’s condition implied a distinction between “autism-­like
    symptoms” and “autism,” although there was no ambiguity that Hannah Poling in
    fact had autism.

    In 2010, the VICP court award Poling
    $1.5 million, while denying other similarly injured children compensation.
    Nevertheless, in March 3, 2011, HHS baldly disclaimed its own 2008 “concession”
    document, stating in its Statistics Report: “HHS has never concluded in any
    case that autism was caused by vaccination.”

  • L. Ivanov

    One thing many people are not aware of is that the “symptoms” of autism can become stronger during puberty – i.e. an autistic kid may appear to be “normal” until their teenage years, and then become apparently autistic later.

    This has given rise to the myth that normal kids could become autistic due to vaccines. However, they were ALREADY autistic when they were born and vaccines had nothing to do with it.

    It’s a case of incorrect diagnosis, not vaccines harming their brains.

    • D Davis

      Nonsense.

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      I’ve never heard anybody claim that a teenager can become suddenly autistic I’m going to have to agree with D Davis and conclude that your statement is nonsense.

  • Camille

    I wonder if there is anything in the TPP trade bill which would make countries financially liable if a country should opt out of a mandatory vaccination program instituted by a corrupt government? Could Pharmaceutical companies could claim breech of contract if they don’t force vaccines on a population?

  • Anne Bowers

    My grand daughter could count up to 20 at age 18 months minus a week or two. She had a few words, had eye contacts and was walking normally, i.e on her 2 feet. At age 18 months, when she did receive her 6 shots at once, she had a couple of days with fever. After those 2 days, she never talked again. She’s 5 now. No eye contact, walking on her toes, and no communication whatsoever. She has been diagnosed with severe autism.
    I don’t believe that’s the vaccines. Lots of others kids have them and are OK. I do believe that some kids are genetically recipient for autism with those massive vaccines. I do believe, but I’m no doctor, that there is something in some kids to start autism due to those vaccines. They are pre-disposed. My 2 cents…

    • D Davis

      They can be genetically predisposed and then the vaccines trigger autism. Google Hannah Poling. That is what the Vaccine court conceded happened to her. She has a mitochondria disorder and so do many other kids. Kids who regress after vaccines.

      • Awesome Blank Avatar

        Yes mitochondria disorders are not rare at all and manifest in many ways.
        http://www.mitoaction.org/mito-faq#how

        I think the last sentence really says it all.

        How common are mitochondrial diseases?
        Infants, children, and adults may develop mitochondrial disorders. Experts in mitochondrial medicine agree there is a spectrum of the disease, ranging from mild to severe.
        In adults, many diseases of aging have been found to have defects of mitochondrial function; these include, but are not limited to, Type 2 diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, atherosclerotic heart disease, stroke, Alzheimer’s disease, and cancer. In addition, many medicines can injure the mitochondria

  • Akiko

    This is why I’m not getting my kids vaccinated on many things, the government can try what they want but the minute they get their duo citizineship its hands will be tied.

  • bev

    more proof that vaccines are dangerous

  • bev

    How many more babies are going to be injured before the government will admit it and improve the safety and effectiveness.

  • Emma

    Did

  • Emma

    If anyone actually read the article published in Thanhniennews.com they will see it makes absolutely zero mention of vaccinations. Since people are so willing to jump to conclusions, did anyone consider that the incidence of any disease has not necessarily increased just because the rate that it is reported or even diagnosed increases? That is because people may not have had a diagnostic tool to recognise a given disease and people may not have had access to an authority to report it to and all of this goes on the assumption that authorities even had the means to measure the disease incidence. If a disease is not reported, it doesn’t mean it does not exist. If a disease has a means for being identified, this in itself is an explanation for a rise in it being reported. Can you see the logic here?

  • Emma

    If you really ask the question: has autism increased?, consider this: the “apparent” increase in ASDs in recent years is in large part attributable to changes in reporting practices.

    In Denmark in particular, the diagnostic criteria for
    autism expanded in 1994 to include a spectrum of disorders with a
    broader list of symptoms, thereby widening the definition of autism.
    Then in 1995, national data tracking began to include diagnoses made
    from outpatient patient visits rather than just diagnoses of those
    admitted to a healthcare facility.

    The exact same thing has happened in every country that has seen
    soaring autism rates–the definition of what constitutes autism was
    dramatically expanded in the early 1990s to embrace the catch-all term
    Autism Spectrum Disorder–correlating with when GMO usage, chemtrail
    rates, pesticide exposure and organic food sales began a sharp increase.

    The researchers discovered that the change in diagnostic criteria
    taken together along with the diagnoses made outside of a healthcare
    facility accounted for as much as 60 percent of the increase in prevalence of autism spectrum disorders. The authors of the study conclude thus

    Changes in reporting practices can account for most
    (60 percent) of the increase in the observed prevalence of ASDs in
    children born from 1980 through 1991 in Denmark. Hence, the study
    supports the argument that the apparent increase in ASDs in recent years
    is in large part attributable to changes in reporting practices.

    http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/01/09/autism-increase-mystery-solved-no-its-not-vaccines-gmos-glyphosate-or-organic-foods/

    If “yournewswire.com” is interested in informing the public, which is what good journalism does, then why has it utterly neglected to provide any information that is pro-vaccination? Please google what a ‘confirmation bias’ is. First rule: if you want to prove something, find evidence to the contrary. If you only look for evidence (or in this case, provide readers with ‘evidence’) that supports your argument, you are falling victim to your own confirmation bias. This is one of the most blinding and dangerous logical fallacies.

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      There is a difference between high functioning autism and low functioning autism. Both have spiked over recent years.
      Back in my youth, next to nobody had symptoms remotely similar to what is now diagnosed as low functioning autism.

  • Ari Po Tator

    http://yournewswire.com/new-study-says-no-link-between-mmr-vaccine-and-autism/ I trust JAMA findings reported by this site. No link exists.

  • SAW

    Anyone who doesn’t vaccinate their children, should be held guilty of child neglect and endangerment. There is ZERO real evidence linking vaccinations to autism. The PROBLEM is, all the dumb-ass parents with autistic kids (who in years past, would NEVER have been so diagnosed) are looking for a scapegoat other than their own genetics.

    Every kid who has some trouble adjusting to life, is now “autistic”. That’s where the big bullshit is.

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      So now it’s child neglect and endangerment not to inject one’s child with poison???? Hahahaha.
      You took the blue pill didn’t you? Either that, or the fluoride has worked its magic on you too.
      Can you remind me how it is that one can ask for themselves (or their children) to be injected with the live measles virus and why I shouldn’t be labelling them a bioterrorist?

      • SAW

        Wow… there’s a whole lotta stupid in that response – most because you have absolutely no clue how vaccines actually WORK, what’s in them, and probably – what’s in most of the food you eat every day… But then… idiots like yourselves are drown themselves in the ignorant ravings of people from Hollywood, who have absolutely NO medical training, education, and for the most part, fail their IQ tests, which – i’m guessing – you do too.

        Do us all a favor – leave the gene pool, and make sure you either don’t have children, or, give them up to someone who cares whether they live or die.

        You’ll be sinning a different tune when your kid spends months in bed with whooping cough and covered with festering sores – but then – you have no frame of reference for that kind of suffering because *YOU’RE VACCINATED, AREN’T YOU?*

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          Oh bullshit. I’ve been actively researching this subject for over four years. The fact that you have the audacity to compare a substance which is injected intramuscularly to one which is ingested proves that it is you who actually is clueless on the subject.
          There are numerous substances that are relatively safe to ingest, but fatal if injected.

          Next subject.

          Your appeal to the scientific majority is as laughable as those flat earthers who appeal to the once ‘sound’ scientific consensus that the world is flat.
          You conveniently ignore the fact that these same scientific authorities gleefully exclaimed that ‘cigarettes do not cause cancer’ in 1957 (CDC) and that lead is ‘safe and effective’ for many decades before finally admitting the bleeding obvious.
          Remember how asbestos never posed a health risk until it ‘did’ (just as the whistleblowers claimed for many years)?
          What fucking planet are you living on dude?

          By the way whooping cough doesn’t result in festering sores and I’ve successfully treated it in less than a week using the sodium ascorbate protocol as recommended by Dr Suzanne Humphries.
          The whooping cough vaccine is incapable of preventing transmission of whooping cough, as it only acts on the toxoid which is produced by the bacteria, and not the bacteria itself.
          It’s the same for diphtheria and other toxoid based vaccines such as tetanus.

          By the way thanks for the suggestion that I leave the gene pool, but I suspect that it is you and others like you will eventually inoculate yourselves and your lineage completely out of existence.

          History has never rewarded those who have had blind faith in authority.

          Next subject.

          Name one disease which has been proven to have been eradicated by vaccines. The last person I challenged on this ended up deleting their entire thread because they weren’t up to the challenge.

          Oh please I beg you. Accept my challenge and name just one disease that has been proven to have been eradicated by vaccines. I triple dare you.

        • Awesome Blank Avatar

          You’re such an arrogant smartass that it will be my absolute pleasure to hand your ego back to you, gift wrapped in a pretty pink bow at no extra charge.
          I promise you that you will not be able to prove that a single disease has been eradicated by vaccines but feel free to call my bluff.
          Keep in mind that correlation does not imply causation.

          Only idiots who have no idea how to manage whooping cough would confine their child to a bed and suggest that the best way to clear their lungs is to remain lying on their back, you smug, ill-informed simpleton.
          As for festering sores, would you be referring to Impetigo? Impetigo is typically caused by streptococcus A, a bacterium which isn’t covered by any vaccine on the current recommended vaccine schedule.
          By the way, impetigo typically responds nicely to salt water therapy, but I’m guessing that you wouldn’t have a clue about that either.

          Pro-vaxers are all the same. If they cannot counter the argument, they’ll attack the person and their credentials.
          If you had science, you wouldn’t need to do that.

          So why do you seem to think that injecting live attenuated viruses is ok and why shouldn’t critically minded people label those who engage in this risky practice, a health hazard (yes, it didn’t go unnoticed that you completely avoided my original question).

          http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nvic.org%2FCMSTemplates%2FNVIC%2Fpdf%2FLive-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedding.pdf&ei=PyqdVf6uA8Lo8AXRtofwCA&usg=AFQjCNE9FJH3q43wRXjkU9tyCnJ3wXwyAg&sig2=e8iFjcvuOjH7MLNxwLsaNQ

          • SAW

            You’re an uneducated fool, and not worth the time it would take to right your head. STATISTICS PROVE – VACCINATION IS SAFER FOR THE ENTIRE PUBLIC – NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL. That’s the ONLY argument that needs to be made.

            When you get polio, or your kid gets polio, don’t come crying to me from inside the iron lung.

          • Awesome Blank Avatar

            LOL. Idiot. Do you realize that live oral polio vaccines (which have been known to actually transmit the live polio virus) are being administered to the kids in India? Do you realize that they no longer test for polio there anymore in spite of the fact that 53,000 (you read that right, 53 THOUSAND) children are now permanently paralyzed with a mysterious condition known as ‘acute flaccid paralysis’ which is clinically indistinguishable from polio? This mysterious condition only reared it’s ugly head since the mass-vaccination campaign against polio.
            So where is your concern for those children?
            Oh they don’t matter to you right because of their caste? Because they are someone else’s problem in some other country?
            Vitamin c (sodium ascorbate) in therapeutic doses has been used successfully again and again to treat polio, but because you know absolutely nothing about natural medicine, I wouldn’t expect a bootlicking intellectual featherweight such as yourself to know that.

            Enjoy reading the following.

            HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: The Pioneering Work of

            FREDERICK ROBERT KLENNER, M.D.

            by Andrew W. Saul

            Assistant Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine

            Reprinted with permission from J Orthomolecular Med, 2007. Vol 22, No 1, p 31-38.

            “Some physicians would stand by and see their patient die rather than use ascorbic acid because in their finite minds it exists only as a vitamin.” (F. R. Klenner, MD)

            The sound barrier was broken in 1947. The Korean War began in 1950. In between was the polio epidemic of 1948-9, during which Dr. Frederick Robert Klenner cured every polio case he saw by using vitamin C.

            VITAMIN C AGAINST POLIO

            Claus W. Jungeblut (1) had the initial idea; William J. McCormick (2) was an early proponent of frequent gram-sized doses. But it was Frederick Robert Klenner who first gave polio patients tens of thousands of milligrams of vitamin C per day. He had been doing so since before D-Day.

            “From 1943 through 1947,” writes Robert Landwehr (3), “Dr. Klenner reported successful treatment of 41 more cases of viral pneumonia using massive doses of vitamin C. From these cases he learned what dosage and route of administration – intravenously, intramuscularly, or orally – was best for each patient. Dr. Klenner gave these details in a February 1948 paper published in the Journal of Southern Medicine and Surgery entitled ‘Virus Pneumonia and Its Treatment with Vitamin C.’ (4) This article was the first of Dr. Klenner’s twenty-eight (through 1974) scientific publications.”

            “When I first came across Klenner’s work on polio patients,” writes Thomas Levy, “I was absolutely amazed and even a bit overwhelmed at what I read. . . To know that polio had been easily cured and so many babies, children, and some adults still continued to die or survive to be permanently crippled by this virus was extremely difficult to accept. . . Even more incredibly, Klenner briefly presented a summarization of his work on polio at the Annual Session of the American Medical Association on June 10, 1949 in Atlantic City, New Jersey:

            ‘It might be interesting to learn how poliomyelitis was treated in Reidsville, N.C., during the 1948 epidemic. In the past seven years, virus infections have been treated and cured in a period of seventy-two hours by the employment of massive frequent injections of ascorbic acid, or vitamin C. I believe that if vitamin C in these massive doses – 6,000 to 20,000 mg in a twenty-four hour period – is given to these patients with poliomyelitis none will be paralyzed and there will be no further maiming or epidemics of poliomyelitis.’ Levy concludes: “The four doctors who commented after Klenner did not have anything to say about his assertions.” (5)

            “How then,” asks Landwehr, “could a Dr. Fred R. Klenner, a virtually unknown general practitioner specializing in diseases of the chest, from a town no one ever heard of, with no national credentials, no research grants and no experimental laboratory, have the nerve to make his sweeping claim in front of that prestigious body of polio authorities?” Indeed, Klenner was hardly a man to mince words. “When proper amounts are used, it will destroy all virus organisms,” he would say. “Don’t expect control of a virus with 100 to 400 mg of C.” (6)

            Klenner administered ascorbate by injection, and, as Lendon H. Smith describes in great detail in the Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C: The Clinical Experiences of Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., Klenner found that “the most effective route was intravenous, but the intramuscular route was satisfactory. He gave at least 350 mg per kilogram of body weight.” That quantity per day is a dose of 25,000-30,000 mg or so for an adult. Yet, Smith adds, “With 350 mg per kilogram of body weight every two hours, he could stop measles and dry up chicken pox.”

            This is indeed a large amount of vitamin C. Such use exemplifies the modern orthomolecular physician. Klenner’s doses were enormous, flexible and symptom-driven. The sicker the patient, the higher the dose. Massive ascorbate treatment cured every one of 60 polio cases Klenner saw. He published his report in Southern Medicine and Surgery in July of 1949. (7) All patients were well in three days. None had any paralysis.

            In a 1950 letter, Klenner wrote:

            “Since my last communication, I have seen four new cases of poliomyelitis. All of these have completely recovered. Three cases were seen in the acute febrile stage and in each instance, using 65 mg per kg body weight (by injection) every two (to) four hours, recovery was spontaneous in 48 hours.” (8)

            In 1951, “In an especially incredible case,” Levy says, “Klenner (9) described a five-year-old girl stricken with polio. This child had already been paralyzed in both her lower legs for over four days! The right leg was completely limp, and the left leg was determined to be 85% flaccid. Pain was noticed especially in the knee and lumbar areas. Four consulting physicians confirmed the diagnosis of polio. Other than massage, vitamin C was the only therapy initiated. After four days of vitamin C injections the child was again moving both legs, but with only very slow and deliberate movement. Klenner also noted that there was a “definite response” after only the first injection of vitamin C. The child was discharged from the hospital after four days, and 1,000 mg of oral vitamin C was continued every two hours with fruit juice for seven days. The child was walking about, although slowly, on the 11th day of treatment. By the 19th day of treatment there was a “complete return of sensory and motor function,” and no long-term impairment ever resulted. Vitamin C not only completely cured this case of polio, it completely reversed what would undoubtedly have been a devastating, crippling result for the remainder of this girl’s life.” (4) For such elegant results, in the days before widespread use of either antibiotics or vaccination, one may wonder why Klenner was not awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

            ORTHOMOLECULAR ORIGINATOR

            Born 22 October 1907 in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, Frederick Robert Klenner earned his undergraduate and graduate degrees in biology, magna cum laude, from St. Vincent and St. Francis Colleges. After two teaching fellowships, he entered Duke University School of Medicine. There, while he was ill, he met his future wife, Annie Hill Sharp (b. 19 Feb 1914), then a senior nursing student who “helped nurse him back to health, and romance blossomed.” (10) At the time, Annie would be only the second woman in the school’s history to graduate with a bachelor of science degree. Klenner received his M.D. in 1936, and “The couple settled in Winston-Salem, where Dr. Klenner was completing his residency at the North Carolina Tuberculosis Sanitarium.” (10) There, according to a short biography published in the Journal of Applied Nutrition, he “served three years in post-graduate hospital training before embarking on a private practice. Although specializing in diseases of the chest, he continued to do general practice because of the opportunities it afforded for observations in medicine. His patients were as enthusiastic as he in playing ‘guinea pigs’ to study the action of ascorbic acid.” (11)

            Klenner had hospital privileges at Reidsville’s Annie Penn Memorial Hospital where, among other things, he delivered hundreds of babies. Given supplemental ascorbate, not merely from birth but also all throughout gestation, Klenner’s uniformly healthy, trouble-free infants were known by the staff as the “Vitamin C Babies.” (12)

            In a 1978 letter to Klenner, Irwin Stone writes that he thinks that “giving levels of ascorbate for long periods of time at the daily levels you recommend. . . is equivalent to creating a new human subspecies, ‘Homo sapiens ascorbicus’ . . . with unusual resistance to disease and stress and with a prolonged life span.” Stone adds, “I was sorry to hear that the book you intend to write is still only a gleam in your eye.” (13)

            Although he never would publish a book on vitamin therapy, Dr. Klenner was a Fellow of the American College of Chest Physicians, the American College of Angiology, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and one of the founders of the American Geriatrics Society. He was inducted into the Orthomolecular Medicine Hall of Fame in 2005. (14)

            Greensboro Daily News reporter Flontina Miller has colorfully described Klenner’s office, above a drug store in Reidsville. “Up a creaking stairway is a dimly-lighted hallway. . . On one side of the hall is a stark waiting room nearly filled with patients. . . A hand-printed sign tacked by the door reads, ‘Limited General Practice’. . . Two walls (are) covered with framed certificates and honors awarded by medical schools and organizations. A crude hand-scrawled cardboard sign on a window air-conditioning unit reads, ‘Snake Inside.’ No snake actually lives inside the air conditioner, but Mrs. Klenner declares the sign has worked miracles to keep visitors’ hands off. She said patients, waiting to talk with the doctor, often would tamper with the unit, causing continual need for repairs. . . For the past 12 years, Mrs. Klenner has been her husband’s fulltime nurse, and they manage the office with no other help. ‘I’d never see my husband if I didn’t work with him,’ said Mrs. Klenner. . . ‘Sometimes he overworks and feels kind of tired.’” (15) He was also subject to severe headaches, including migraines. Still, according to journalist Jerry Bledsoe, Klenner never sent bills to his patients. “If a patient couldn’t pay when treated, then he could pay when he could. And even if he couldn’t pay and still needed a doctor, Dr. Klenner would be there, making house calls no matter the hour.” (16)

            Another Greensboro Daily News article written by Miller recounts how Klenner first used injections of vitamin C:

            “Dr. Klenner remembers using (ascorbate) for a man, who was lying near death from severe virus pneumonia, but refused to be hospital­ized. ‘I went to his house and gave him one big shot with five grams or 5,000 milligrams of vitamin C,’ he recalled. ‘When I went back later in the day, his temperature was down three degrees and he was sitting on the edge of the bed eating. I gave him another shot of C, 5,000 milligrams and kept up that dosage for three days, four times a day. And he was well. I said then, well, my gosh! This is doing something.’” (17)

            Klenner devised an early office test for vitamin C. (18) He would go on to administer massive amounts of ascorbate against any and all viral diseases. And, in the course of some forty years of general practice, Klenner used vitamin C, often accompanied with high doses of other nutrients, to fight a striking variety of other illnesses. Smith (6) itemizes a list that includes Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, bladder infections, alcoholism, arthritis, leukemia, atherosclerosis, ruptured intervertebral discs, high cholesterol, corneal ulcer, diabetes, glaucoma, burns and secondary infections, heat stroke, radiation burns, heavy metal poisoning, chronic fatigue, and complications resulting from surgery. Additionally, Klenner also reported mega nutrient cures of tetanus (19, 20), trichinosis (21), venomous bites from spiders or snakes (22, 23), and, perhaps most controversially, multiple sclerosis.

            VITAMINS AGAINST MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS

            Nearly every person with multiple sclerosis that I’ve met has had two things in common: a lack of hope, and a lack of vitamins. Klenner’s patients lacked neither, with a treatment schedule calling for massive quantities of B-vitamins to, said Klenner, “effect nerve repair.” He based his protocol in part on work, in the late 1930’s, by “Stern from Columbia University, (who) was employing thiamin hydrochloride intraspinally with astonishing results in multiple sclerosis. He reported taking patients to the operating room on a stretcher, and following 30 mg thiamin given intraspinally, they would walk back to their room.” (24) While, Klenner commented, “the response was relatively transient,” it indicated that multiple sclerosis might be a severe form of avitaminosis.

            If one vitamin helped, two seemed likely to work better. Klenner writes: “Moore (25), in 1940, published a monograph on the use of high intravenous doses of nicotinic acid for the cure of multiple sclerosis. Moore employed a drug combination called ‘Nicobee.’ This preparation contained 100 mg nicotinic acid and 60 mg of thiamin in each 10 cc solution.” Moore, like Klenner, was influenced by earlier work showing that nerve degeneration results from multiple nutritional deficiencies. (26) Subsequently, Klenner would employ what may only be described as a wide ranging nutritional approach. His protocol for multiple sclerosis and myasthenia gravis follows, as described in his paper, “Response of Peripheral and Central Nerve Pathology to Mega-Doses of the Vitamin B-Complex and Other Metabolites” (27):

            Thiamin hydrochloride (B-1): “300 mg to 500 mg, 30 minutes before meals and bed hour, and during the night if awake” plus “400 mg daily by needle, given intramuscularly”

            Niacin (B-3): “100 mg to 3 grams, thirty minutes before meals and at bed hour, and also during the night if awake – whichever dose will produce a strong body flush.”

            Pyridoxine (B-6): “100 mg to 200 mg is given before meals and bed hour. At least 100 mg daily is given intramuscularly.”

            Cobalamin (B-12): “1000 mcg three times each week by needle.”

            Ascorbic Acid (C): “Ten to twenty grams should be taken daily by mouth in divided doses.”

            Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2): “40 mg to 80 mg given daily by needle I.M. 25 mg before meals and bed time.”

            Choline: “700 mg to 1400 mg after each meal and at bed hour.”

            Lecithin: “1200 mg soybean lecithin after each meal.”

            Magnesium: “100 mg after each meal.”

            Calcium gluconate: Two 10 grain tablets “after each meal and at bed hour.”

            Calcium panthothenate: 200 mg “after each meal and at bed hour.”

            Aminoacetic acid (glycine): “One heaping tablespoon of the powder in a glass of milk four times each day.”

            Zinc gluconate: “10 mg three times each day has some value in Myasthenia Gravis. Take several hours after vitamin B-2.”

            Additionally, Klenner gave vitamin E (800 to 1,600 IU/day), crude liver extract, adenosine-5-monophosphoric acid, and a multi-vitamin/ multi-trace-mineral tablet, which would have included some vitamin D. Klenner prescribed a high protein diet, and used available drugs to relieve tremor and stiffness. He might also specify linolenic acid, thyroid, fresh green vegetables, fresh fruits, a considerable quantity of milk (1 quart/day) and eggs (up to 6/day). Klenner required patients to limit fats, eat only whole grain bread, and specified “no junk foods, especially sweets.” (28)

            Klenner also offered what he considered to be an abbreviated, compromise program. “Should a given patient’s physician refuse to administer this schedule, I have this recommendation: One gram thiamin hydrochloride one hour before meals and at bed hour, and during the night if awake. Niacin taken at the same time, and in amounts sufficient to produce a good body flush. Two hundred mg calcium pantothenate and 100 mg pyridoxine before meals and at bed hour. Ten grams ascorbic acid, taken in divided doses. Amino acetic acid: one heaping tablespoon in a glass of milk, four times each day. Naturally, the full schedule will afford more dramatic response.” He declares: “We categorically make this statement: Any victim of multiple sclerosis who will dramatically flush with the use of nicotinic acid, and who has not yet progressed to the stage of myelin degeneration, as witnessed by sustained ankle clonus elicited in the orthodox manner, can be cured with the adequate employment of thiamin hydrochloride and other factors of the vitamin B complex in conjunction with essential proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and injectable crude liver.” (27)

            MEDIA MUCKRAKING

            Perhaps it is not a complete surprise that the print and broadcast media have been obsessively interested in the scandal that rocked Klenner’s family following the doctor’s death from heart disease in 1984. Fred Klenner Jr., known as Fritz, implicated in the murders of at least 5 people, died by his own hand in 1985. (29) The tragedy was the subject of a bestselling 1988 tell-all book (30), in which Dr. Klenner is mentioned over 50 times, and then, in 1994, a two-hundred minute made-for-TV movie. (31) It is instructive to note that the news media reported on the son’s crimes far more than it reported on the father’s cures. There have been countless television programs and Hollywood films about crime, but not one ever made about the life-saving achievements of megavitamin therapy. Perhaps that is an even greater tragedy. “We’ve used massive doses of vita­mins on over 10,000 people over a period of 30 years,” said Dr. Klenner, “and we’ve never seen any ill effects from them. The only ef­fects we’ve seen have been beneficial.”

            Dr. Klenner’s immensely valuable work is his legacy. Linus Pauling said, “The early papers by Dr. Fred R. Klenner provide much information about the use of large doses of vitamin C in preventing and treating many diseases. These papers are still important.” (32) Klenner is justly remembered as the doctor who was first to boldly assert that “Ascorbic acid is the safest and most valuable substance available to the physician” and that patients should be given “large doses of vitamin C in all pathological conditions while the physician ponders the diagnosis.” Whether overshadowed by scandal or stubbornly ignored by the medical profession, high-dose ascorbate therapy is here to stay. “I have used Dr. Klenner’s methods on hundreds of patients,” said Lendon H. Smith. “He is right.”
            http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

            Oh PS.
            The iron lung isn’t used anymore not because polio has been eradicated (which it hasn’t) but because it is superseded technology of the past.
            MORON.

  • John

    Autism is just one disorder (or disease if you like) is part of a whole spectrum of neuro degenerative diseases the include a whole host of diagnosed medical problems. When you look at the REAL CAUSE, doctors deny causation because they have NO diagnostic tools to see the problems. They see the results and hear the parents tell their stories about their child going into this state of autism within hours or days of getting vaccinated, but the doctors deny, deny, deny because they say there is no proof that causation is not related to correlation. 1 in 50 children are becoming autistic now and that is not genetics, so something is causing it. If it were a genetic issue, where are all the old autistic’s now?

    Dr. Eisenstein has a clinic in Chicago that has over 35,000 children that have never been vaccinated and there is no autism in that group. No, it doesn’t prove anything other than this group does not have autism and they have not been vaccinated. But wouldn’t you think some medical group wanting to TRULY find the truth would at least look at this group to see why?

    We know that when Japan and Australia stopped the mandatory vaccinations, the number of children getting autism dropped proportionately to the reduction in the vaccination rate!

    • JerPan

      Why are you telling ME this, I already KNOW it. Try and tell these morons who says everybody should be vaccinated. Are you dumber that a box of rocks telling ME this info?

      • Awesome Blank Avatar

        Jerpan, why are you being rude? John’s comment wasn’t even written for you.

    • YellowHammer Pirate

      Japan changed to single dose vaccines for each of the components (one shot for measles, one shot for mumps, one shot for rubela) instead of the combined MMR in 1993–five years before Wakefield falsified his MMR-causes-autism “study”. Of interest, Dr Wakefield had just invested heavily in a measles vaccine himself, single dose, and with him as sole supplier. He was disbarred from practicing medicine in the UK based on horrendous incidents–witnessed by his co-writers–of abuse against developmentally delayed children.

      If 35000 children have not developed measles, it is because the collective herd immunity of those vaccinated there are protecting the children and having 35000 children who do not have autism is not that unusual.if it is not being screened for.

  • Simon Green

    No! No there hasn’t been.
    Really? Digging out this old trope out again? I know you anti-facts cult members love to bring back old things into modern day society, but really?

  • Cliff Rice

    I suppose it’s as legitimate as correlating the increase in autism to the rise in McDonald’s. There is so much stupid here…

    • Awesome Blank Avatar

      I attribute the Disneyland Measles outbreak to the rise in Taco Bell.

      You won’t like that though, will you? So much easier to blame the unvaccinated…..

  • Bob Simms

    Interesting that Japan withdrew MMR vaccines in 1992 and they saw a rise in autism in those children born after they withdrew the vaccines. Diagnosis of autism in the East (and elsewhere) is on the increase, regardless of vaccines. Maybe evidence-based studies would be a better way of combatting this rise

    • YellowHammer Pirate

      um…nope. Japan changed in 1993 to individual vaccines for EACH of the MMR components. Vaccination for measles, mumps and rubela is alive and well there, thank you

  • Rebekah Perrin

    Unrelated, but that baby is seriously adorable.

  • Mike7106

    The real culprits are those who control the MSM and lie by omission about the danger of vaccines.

  • Gillettestevens

    Follow the money. Who is profiting? That will help clear the fog for many of you.

  • Brooke Dunne
  • ketac6

    There is no evidence linking autism to vaccines. None.

    • JerPan

      Yes there is and NOW there is evidence that that they tried to destroy the evidence that it is related.

  • Jeff

    The truth is finally here about the vaccine MMR autism link. Here is
    the CDC whistleblower going on official Congressional record stating how
    the CDC deliberately hid a HUGE causal link between the MMR vaccine and
    vaccination before 36 months of age directly causing autism. They
    literally threw scientific documents in to a trash can and planned the
    fraud. Time for you to e-mail your Congressional representative and tell
    them to subpoena Dr. Thompson to testify before Congress about the
    fraud. How many children and families have been destroyed in the last
    decade due to these crimes? Thompson must receive a subpoena or the CDC
    will not allow him to talk because he is still employed there. They have
    now put us over 10 years behind on the CORRECT RESEARCH we should have
    been doing. http://www.house.gov/represent

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c

  • bev

    don’t like all those disgusting picture adds above the comments section

  • YellowHammer Pirate

    And all of this rubbish about the MMR vaccine and autism started with the Britain’s Wakefield Study–look it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield . You guys are perpetrating a hoax from way back in 1998 and risking your lives doing it. The researches who published that study almost immediately retracted it because their claims were not only unsubstantiated but data was falsely created by Wakefield himself.

    The idiot who wrote this article is looking to gain followers and is hardly well informed–no studies have found any connection between autism and vaccines since the Wakefield study and there have been plenty of them. Pasteur Institute, National Institute of Medicine, all the big guys NOT associated with any drug company, have stated NO connection with autism.

    Wanna know why refuges from other countries come here and “develop” autism? Hello?? Third world countries do not TEST for autism consistently and often not at all…, they come here and get tested for all sorts of afflictions.

    We have herd immunity from measles as long as at least 80% are vaccinated. When the numbers fall below that, we will get measles and other diseases that we have been vaccinating against for decades.

    Thankyou for proving the point, we haven’t been catching measles due to vaccinations. Now we have started developing cases–thanks to those who would rather take a terrible risk and not get vaccinated.

    You have two choices with disease that have vaccines for them. get vaccinated and avoid the risk to your life (measles IS deadly to the unvaccinated adult) or not get vaccinated, get the disease and then pray you survive to develop your own immunity.

    I see you’re finding you own way out of the gene pool.

  • Eileen Kurlander

    I don’t believe it’s about greed and capitalism so much as sterilization towards genocide.

  • Lisette Muntslag

    This is a crime against humanity…..these criminals need to be lock up….!

  • Lydia

    I have a masters in medicine and this is such bullshit. It has been proven over and over again vaccines DO NOT cause autism. The researcher that brought this rumoiur into the world even admitted he made it up and it was all fake, IN FACT it was proven in a study in Japan that autism rates kept rising even when they banned vaccines for years. So maybe autism is on the rise anyway and vaccines have nothing to do with it? Maybe being more able to diagnose autism nowadays makes autism more visable and it is not rising at all?

  • Marlene Duke

    To the author of this article….how about a link to the study so we can use it in our discussions.

  • Toxic Avenger

    What a bunch of horse shit.

  • Erin Walsh
  • John

    We, the people of the world, are at WAR with drug companies that are using their power created by the large bags of money they are making from using MEDICAL SPIN instead of truth and REAL SCIENCE to promote their ridiculous concept that vaccines are a good thing. Vaccinations have NOT rid the world of disease as they are being promoted. These Medical terrorists are presenting data that parallels other factors that have created the decline in infectious diseases such as sanitation, better access to varieties of foods, transportation improvements, etc. The increase in so many degenerative diseases correlates to many industrial developments and vaccines in particular. When most of the outbreaks that are occurring we find are due to fully vaccinated children, that act is ignored and through marketing spin create the obfuscation of truth and a naive public just accepts the LIES of drug companies and indoctrinated doctors!

    Instead of looking at the evidence and researching the causation, we see them create marketing spin and demonizing of the messengers. The CDC is corrupt to its core and yet politicians in charge ignore the evidence and give them a pass. That is our fault for electing those corrupt, greedy, politicians that have given up their probity for money and power!

    Watch the movie VAXXED and see what our “protectors of our health” are doing! NO VACCINE IS SAFE! It cannot be by design! If a vaccine does not damage a person, it cannot even get close to what it is claimed to do. That is why there are NO SAFETY STUDIES showing vaccines are safe!

    In July 2004, Gary Null Ph.D, Carolyn Dean M.D., N.D, Martin Feldman M.D., Debora Rasio M.D., Dorothy Smith Ph.D. wrote a paper that revealed very disturbing facts regarding an annual iatrogenic (induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures) death rate of 783,936 in one year. It is further disturbing to realize that as few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic acts are ever reported. This means that iatrogenic death rate of 783,936 is much higher.

    As we look at the causes of death from degenerative diseases and other causes in America in 2004, it is obvious we are not good at solving this problem on any level. Deaths from: Heart Disease 652,000, Cancer 553,000, and Stroke 150,000.

    When comparing the iatrogenic acts of modern medicine in America with the statistical numbers of people dying of any particular disease, it is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. And when we look at the cost of these iatrogenic deaths, the cost is in the billions.

    A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million.

    U.S. Casualties of War

    4,435 Revolutionary War
    364,511 Civil War
    116,516 World War I
    405,399 World War II
    36,574 Korean War
    58,220 Vietnam War (1965 – 1975)
    383 Gulf War (1990 – 1991)
    4,475 Iraq War (2003 – 2011)
    2,217 Afghanistan War (2001 – present)

    992,730 TOTAL people lost in ALL wars

    Source: Department of Defense Totals as of May 24, 2013

    And we are just supposed to believe these medical terrorists that use FEAR and INTIMIDATION while distorting and manipulating data to promote their LIES about vaccines saving the world that is completely false?

    • 655321

      “Ignorance is among us” Yes, your post is proof of this.