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Tens of Thousands Of Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

30,000 scientists declare man-made climate change a hoax

A staggering 30,000 scientists have come forward confirming that man-made climate change is a hoax perpetuated by the elite in order to make money. 

One of the experts is weather channel founder, John Coleman, who warns that huge fortunes are being made by man-made climate change proponents such as Al Gore.


Natural News reports:

In a recent interview with Climate Depot, Coleman said:

“Al Gore may emerge from the shadows to declare victory in the ‘global warming’ debate if Hillary Clinton moves into the White House. Yes, if that happens and the new climate regulations become the law of the land, they will be next to impossible to overturn for four to eight years.”

Climate change proponents remain undeterred in their mission, ignoring numerous recent scientific findings indicating that there has been no warming trend at all for nearly two decades.

Al Gore’s dire predictions of the melting of polar ice on a massive scale have proved to be completely false. In fact, in 2014 – a year that was touted as being “the hottest ever” in the Earth’s history – there were record amounts of ice reported in Antarctica, an increase in Arctic ice, and record snowfalls across the globe.

Debunking the “97 percent” lie

On top of those “inconvenient truths,” the White House’s assertion that 97 percent of scientists agree that global warming is real has been completely debunked. Several independently-researched examinations of the literature used to support the “97 percent” statement found that the conclusions were cherry-picked and misleading.

More objective surveys have revealed that there is a far greater diversity of opinion among scientists than the global warming crowd would like for you to believe.

From the National Review:

“A 2008 survey by two German scientists, Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch, found that a significant number of scientists were skeptical of the ability of existing global climate models to accurately predict global temperatures, precipitation, sea-level changes, or extreme weather events even over a decade; they were far more skeptical as the time horizon increased.”

Other mainstream news sources besides the National Review have also been courageous enough to speak out against the global warming propaganda – even the Wall Street Journal published an op-ed piece in 2015 challenging the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) pseudoscience being promulgated by global warming proponents.

And, of course, there are the more than 31,000 American scientists (to date) who have signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative and 9,029 of them hold PhDs in their respective fields. But hey, Al Gore and his cronies have also ignored that inconvenient truth, as well.

Many of those scientists who signed the petition were likely encouraged to speak out in favor of the truth after retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist John L. Casey revealed that solar cycles are largely responsible for warming periods on Earth – not human activity.

Al Gore and cronies continue getting richer from the global warming hoax

But the global warming crowd continues to push their agenda on the public while lining their pockets in the process. If you’re still inclined to believe what Al Gore has to say about global warming, please consider the fact that since he embarked on his crusade, his wealth has grown from $2 million in 2001 to $100 million in 2016 – largely due to investments in fake “green tech” companies and the effective embezzlement of numerous grants and loans.

You might want to take all of this information into serious consideration before casting your vote in the November election.

                                                                • Painted Pagliacci Of Perfidy

                                                                  Wow. This reads like an Onion piece. Make a friend.

                                                                • yukovalis

                                                                  Paid for by Exxon. No seriously, this whole thing was debunked as a scam by Exxon Oil. Climate change is very real, and anyone who says different is either being paid by big oil, or is ignorantly listening to someone who was.

                                                                  • http://www.zdevelopers.net Brian Zwart

                                                                    Well…. no matter how real you believe it to be…. I’m not going to run out and buy a prius over it.

                                                                    • yukovalis

                                                                      and that is fine. It isn’t just about the individual doing something other then being mindful. It is up to the government and companies to research greentech compared to using oil. Even if you don’t believe the serious damage we have done and are constantly doing, like it or not, oil is going to vanish. Once it does we will be stuck with machines that won’t work anymore.

                                                                      • http://www.zdevelopers.net Brian Zwart

                                                                        You know…. I don’t believe the conspiracy theorists on Infowars anymore than I believe the ones on here?

                                                                      • http://www.zdevelopers.net Brian Zwart

                                                                        Actually I’d be a lot happier if you can get the price of gas lowered.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          My Prius gets 21.4km per litre.
                                                                          I personally lowered the price of gas

                                                                        • Judy Martin

                                                                          i love that i can sneak up on people in parking lots..its so quiet…lol..mines named sea buscuit

                                                                      • Johnpd

                                                                        Oil will NOT vanish:
                                                                        http://www.viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html
                                                                        Oil is proven to be manufactured in the Earth under heat & pressure. They’ve lied to you: it’s NOT a fossil fuel. HEHEHEHE

                                                                        • yukovalis

                                                                          that old story? First of all, that isn’t proven. It is a theory. Second, the isotopic profile of oil is proven to be from fossils, while it may or may not have been slightly added to by your theory. Third, even if some oil is created through that process, it won’t be near enough to supply the world, and what we use each day. To use a metaphor, that would be like trying to fill a gas tank from the oil on your skin. Which is all the more reason to cut down on the stuff, for our habitat.

                                                                      • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                        Yes, in about 300 years we may come to the end of our oil supplies…
                                                                        Believe it or not, 100 years ago horse manure was a big city problem. Horses were the prime source of power for transportation. There were huge piles of manure. They stank, smelled, attracted rats who, in turn, spread diseases.
                                                                        Ford’s Model T took care of that little pollution problem. At the time nobody was stupid enough to ask Mr. Ford to design a jet engine to move today’s Boeing 777!
                                                                        In real life, nobody sets out to destroy Kodak. Digital technology was better and doing Kodak in was an unintended by-product.
                                                                        Viagra was not invented for the purpose it is used for…
                                                                        In 200 years time we will be so much more knowledgeable and it will be a lot easier to solve that problem. Trust me. We still have a lot to learn!
                                                                        (Even about climate change…)

                                                                        • Judy Martin

                                                                          aahhh a voice of reason. we old farts have see a lot of “the end is near” shriekers in our day. we have learned to either ignore them or turn up the radio

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          If you think Ziggy’s the voice of reason you have been seriously misinformed; bat shit crazy misinformed.

                                                                    • Judy Martin

                                                                      hey now…i love my prius..its so quite in the electric cycle that
                                                                      i get to sneak up on people in parking lots…and i can drive from illinois to vegas on less than $100.00 in gas..its fun

                                                                  • The Thinker

                                                                    Climate Change IS real, and no one thinks otherwise, the ice ages can really change minds

                                                                    What is not real, is humans are causing it!

                                                                    CAGW is a scam.

                                                                    • yukovalis

                                                                      Picture a lake, nice and pretty. Many lakes are millions of years old. In fact the oldest lake is what some 25 million years old. How difficult would it be for humans to utterly destroy it? a few dozen barrels of oil here and there would do considerable damage, which nature itself couldn’t fix. This is much the state of our ozone. It doesn’t take long to damage something. so since we contributed 10 fold what natural c02 emissions were there, I’d say yes we are very much a cause.

                                                                      • Johnpd

                                                                        What sh1te you spout. One volcano in a few hrs can spout more CO2 than mankind has since 1950, when man is supposed to have been causing, first warming, then when that didn’t happen, climate change. HAHAHAHAHA
                                                                        Read Prof. Ian Plimer’s excellent book: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science

                                                                        • yukovalis

                                                                          aww isn’t that cute, you are trying to quote from some non-sourced best seller book. Honestly the thing was more full of theory then actual scientific understanding. Here how about we look to people in the field who actually measure this stuff? Like maybe the CDIAC? It is reported that volcano and trapped co2 releases up to 300 million tonnes a year. Humans on the other hand due to burning of fossil fuels release up to 30 BILLION tonnes a year. Now, do the math. So keep laughing like a jester.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Then why did Mother Nature not respond and raise the temperature as predicted? When Ford produces a car and stepping on the gas does not move it, they cannot afford to sit back for 19 years and hope like hell there will be stupid people to buy the thing anyway… It’s back to the drawing board. Rethink until it works.
                                                                          By the way, the sun’s actions and global temperatures are a much better match. But there is no money in that one for Al Gore…

                                                                      • anthony cortez

                                                                        but what about the natural oil springs in lakes and oceans are those ecological disasters?

                                                                        • yukovalis

                                                                          Not sure you understand the point I was trying to make. My point is that it doesn’t take long to destroy something. We could easily have done the damage to the ozone that we are very much doing.

                                                                      • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                        Green house operators know that their crops grow best when the CO2 levels are 4 times higher than what some politicians, but not scientists, call “dangerous”…

                                                                • Clay Cromer

                                                                  Global warming is bull $}{!+ & you guys are fools to believe it.

                                                                  • Ena Kana

                                                                    Wow you are dumb

                                                                    • Grog618

                                                                      What an intelligent response.

                                                                      • Technerd

                                                                        Observations can sometime seem unintelligent until you realize they’re true

                                                                    • anthony divjak

                                                                      please replace the words *you are* with *I am* and You would make sense……And more Ctrails to You……

                                                                • Matt in the Box

                                                                  This article is total shit.

                                                                  Who is dumb enough to believe this rubbish?

                                                                  Manipulating stupid people by lying to them to push an ideological barrow is evil. Yourneswire.com is shit.

                                                                  Vote Blue the whole way down the ballot.

                                                                  Keep fuckwit Republicans out of power.

                                                                  Global warming is basic physics. If you’re too dumb to understand, then leave it up to the experts. They’re called climatologists.

                                                                  • Sally Ban Geoengineering Parke

                                                                    Geoengineering is causing climate change. Co2 is NOT a pollutant and is NOT the problem and that is basic physics!!! Aluminium, Barium and Sulphur are being used to deliberately change the climate to perpetuate the global warming HOAX!!

                                                                    • Matt in the Box

                                                                      You’re brave. On a post where I say “manipulating stupid people” you want to come out and show that you have no grasp of objective reality, no understanding of scientific truth, and you base your thinking on bullshit internet memes?

                                                                      Yeah good one. You should get the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2017.

                                                                      I reiterate; If you’re too dumb to understand, then leave it up to the experts.

                                                                      • anthony divjak

                                                                        If you are an expert then we are dead meat hahahahhahaaa

                                                                    • CAFM

                                                                      Precisely!!!

                                                                    • Ena Kana

                                                                      Sally Ban you are a nutcase, and I’m not completely sure how brains such as yours have such a hard time processing reality. CO2 is an insulating agent; did you get that? I said CO2 is an insulating agent. Still don’t comprehend logical information? I said: CO2 holds heat you lizard brain.

                                                                    • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                      How come I never heard one of our pilots or their friends got hired by those who do the Aluminum, Barium, Sulphur thing? Do you know any truck drivers who drive mountains of this stuff to hidden airports in the wilderness? By the way, I only worked for an airline for 35 years and even discussed an UFO incident with one of our crews. However, nobody ever got a glimps into climate seeding…

                                                                      • anthony divjak

                                                                        yup and the pilots and crews newer got sick in the air when they run into pockets of Ctrails????

                                                                        read much news lately?

                                                                    • anthony divjak

                                                                      Thank You Sally! You are the voice of reason in this *scientific* muddle. One should never loose sight of real causes of world wide sickness that is on increase. It is all the result of the Ctrails being kept of the topic in forums world wide.
                                                                      This is the real part of *man made* climate change all the rest is and always was of natural origin!

                                                                  • Johnpd

                                                                    Climatologist drtimball.com has called the hoax.
                                                                    Put overpopulation in his search box if you want to find one reason for the scam.

                                                                    • Matt in the Box

                                                                      You gullible fool. If you’re bouncing around from one right wing denialist blog to another then you’re cherry picking. How about reading some credible science papers instead? Will that burst your little bubble. Objective truth matters. Perpetuating falsehoods is lying. John, don’t be a liar.

                                                                      http://www.desmogblog.com/dr-tim-ball-the-lie-that-just-wont-die

                                                                      • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                        Yes, Matt. Your link is exactly what I thought it might be. Ad honimen! Not a word about the evidence.
                                                                        During one afternoon I turned down a person who had the papers from a university that he had taken 3 years of French. He did not speak French. An hour later I hired a fellow who had moved to Montreal, worked as a dishwasher until he spoke enough French to work as busboy, then waiter. He spoke French! I do not have a single paper to prove to you that I speak Dutch. But I do!

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          FFS.

                                                                          Go with just the facts then:

                                                                          http://www.skepticalscience.com/

                                                                          And not calling your favourite lying little fuckwit anything at all.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          I ignored your limited means of expressing yourself and started to read the “sceptical science”. Up to the spot:
                                                                          “carbon pollution”. Sorry. Nothing scientific to see there. Don’t you agree?

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          The klaxons are sounding. The searchlights lock on. We have an idiot here.

                                                                          I refer you back to http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

                                                                          Don’t say another word til you read and understand, and I mean all of it. If you can’t have the good grace to do that, then I will have to ignore you as an incredible freak of rudeness and dumbitude,

                                                                          Read each one (even set to simpleton level), soak them in, understand them, and then you might have the smallest bit of a reason to be listened to (but only if you’ve changed your tune.) You get it, Ziggy? Your position is completely untenable in the3 light of evidence, and if you don’t think so, then guess who’s wrong, you or the evidence? Don’t waste my time again Ziggy.

                                                                          No more dumb arguments. No right wing memes crafted for the gullibles without bullshit detectors. No more, “oh but”. Understand the basics and then STFU.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Your limited capacity to communicate makes it clear that you have, obviously, overdosed on the KoolAid. For those others still interested in the subject and not having wasted their time on what Matt in the Box considers science, let me assure you, that his link is pre-school, shall we call it of Dr. Szeuss quality? Totally amusing.

                                                                          I have followed people such as Tim Ball, Ian Clark and Patrick Moore. Not being a scientist myself I have asked people to debunk their CO2 evidence. During the past 8 years I have received many replies of the Matt-in-the-Box calibre. Nothing that resembles science.
                                                                          Patrick Moore’s presentation is embedded in the following text, near the bottom:
                                                                          https://gseine.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/end-self-censorship-on-the-carbon-dioxide-debate/

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Sorry. You are incapable of telling between truth and bullshit, and I asked you to be polite enough to read and understand before commenting again. So why don’t you stop lying to yourself? If you do not understand climatology 101 then you cannot have an opinion on climatology. You can pretend to, but it is just proof of your intellectual poverty.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Can you believe it? This moron sends links which begin with a picture of the liar-in-charge-of-the-White-House, followed by Bernie Saunders and believes that he is onto something scientific… That’s called propaganda!

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          There is something called objective truth and you don’t have a handle on it. Don’t blame me if I point out that your beliefs are bullshit. I am just the messenger. You might like to pretend that your contrarian views have worth, but they don’t. Those scientists are right, and you are a fool.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          What’s your message? Listen to Dr. Obama?

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          The message is that yournewswire.com is full of liars, they spread disinformation and if you believe a word they say then you are incredibly stupid.

                                                                          Climate change is real. Don’t let right wing lying fuckwits tell you what to think.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Yes, Einstein. The climate is changing. Has been doing it for a long time. I can’t help it that you found a link that’s full of liars. I’ve never heard of yournewswire.com and, coming from you I won’t waste my time exploring. The previous 2 were plain “green’ propaganda.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          See that “you have no handle on objective truth thing” above?

                                                                          I, and scientific orthodoxy are right, and you are a gullible fool.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          …and I happen to find myself in the company of 30,000 scientists!
                                                                          Your company does not look appealing, does it now?

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          No, thicko. This is a zero quality article, that only the stupid and the ill-educated are taken in by.

                                                                          I know I am in a pointless argument with a school student and probably a C student at best, but I’ll give you some handy hints if you want to succeed in life.

                                                                          Lose the attitude. The partisan warrior stuff just makes you look dumb.

                                                                          Learn enough so you know when someone is bullshitting you. At the moment you’re clueless on this.

                                                                          There are two great successes you might get to do in life, solving mathematical proofs and getting laid. You’re unlikely to achieve either, so get into comic books. You won’t have real life friends, but you can have some imaginary ones.

                                                                          And go back to http://www.skepticalscience.com/
                                                                          Or http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
                                                                          Or try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90CkXVF-Q8M

                                                                          or https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/energy-environment-climate/

                                                                          And if you are struggling at digesting and understanding them, then remember there is something wrong with you, and not with the science.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          It is very tempting to call you names, the way you do. However, it is even more fun to show others how “off” your assumptions are.
                                                                          I am 82 years old. Before coming to Canada I spent almost 8 years working on ships on the high seas. This included 2 tankers and several cruise ships. I had just turned 16 when I found myself in the company of a world renown whaling expert while we went to re-supply the Dutch whaler “Willem Barendsz” off the coast of Antarctica. I also spent 4 Seasons in the Caribbean and my last trip was my second world cruise on the very first world cruiser, the sm “Statendam”. Canada was relatively uneventful, being flight crew for an international airline for 35 years.
                                                                          On my book shelves you will find names like Ian Plimer, Patrick Michaels, Richard Lindzen, Willie Soon, Robert Carter, John Abbot, Jennifer Marohasy, Nigel Lawson, Alan Moran, James Delingpole, Garth Paltridge, Joanne Nova, Kester Green, Scott Armstrong, Rupert Darwall, Ross McKitrick, Donna Laframboise, Mark Steyn, Christopher Essex, Bernard Lewin, Stewart Franks, Anthony Watts, Andrew Bolt and others. Being an expert on climate change, I am sure you recognize all of them…
                                                                          Now don’t forget to tell your shrink about your urge to insult people. Don’t leave out the part that you are a creep who uses an assumed name.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Andrew Bolt is a racist cunt. Ian Plimer wrote a book called Telling Lies For God, now he tells lies for the benefit of resource companies and their shareholders.

                                                                          Listing a long line of contrarians means you listen to people lying. So what?

                                                                          And you still can’t tell objective truth from lies.

                                                                          You are no intellectual, and you are indistinguishable from an annoying pimply teenager who hasn’t passed a science subject, who thinks they knows shit, but knows nothing.

                                                                          Look at the data, and the graphs. Not only is it real. It is measurable. You are intellectually bankrupt. How the hell does you quoting the name of a right wing journalist, and a convicted transgessor of the racial discrimination act at that, disprove the peer reviewed science and the measured data? That, old man, is totally demented.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          It’s OK. You can calm down now. We all knew a while ago how clueless you are…
                                                                          Now, take your medication and don’t forget the appointment with your shrink, moron.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Ziggy. Climate change denial is only a thing because your side of politics is populated by fundamentally dishonest, intellectually and morally bankrupt cowards. Whilst real scientists go on and discuss real things and map the climate over smaller and smaller historic timescales, and discuss proxy data techniques, and model the systems with ever and ever increasing accuracy you, and your ilk of lying bastard cowards disappear up your own asses in a bubble of untruth of your own devising. What climate change denial shows is that you are wrong. Wrong about everything. Do the world a favor and shut the fuck up. You contribute nothing.

                                                                          Got it? Your opinions are wrong. Your opinions are worthless. You are worthless.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Please stop typing Ziggy. You have nothing good to say,

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          On the contrary, Einstein. I do have good things to say. But I can’t help it that you don’t get it.
                                                                          Basically I am on the side of those who like to see Canada prosper. Falling for the hoax would dismantle Canada and my grandchildren’s future. There is absolutely no proof that CO2 is the great villain or a higher temperature is disastrous! Not even the scientists, paid for by your politicians, would dare say that. Except, of course, the great Algore or Saint Suzuki!
                                                                          What have YOU said to convince a single one of the tens of thousands of scientists to change THEIR mind? You have referred to “green” propaganda and seem to believe it is science. You use foul language. That must have worked for you in the past and it seems to frustrate you that now you cannot even take down one old man with it… Have you not understood by now, that I have absolutely nothing to say to you? I could not care less what bottom feeders like you think. Everybody here know that people who use a pseudonym and trash-talk are nothing but scum!
                                                                          But, because you, obviously, do not get it, let me spell it out. I am writing to show others that one should never give in to foulmouthed trash, like you. You may be too stupid to realize there is no logic in what you write, it’s all there for others to see. I have used you in more than one way!
                                                                          At the same time I am open to reason. I will listen to anyone who can explain why Mother Nature took a 19 year nap during a time while we released the largest amount of anthropogenic CO2. Remember? Even the great Hansen believes that we should go back to the drawing board if the hiatus should ever last as long as 10 years!…

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Those scientists are fictitious, you dumb shit.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Your “source of information” appears to cater to the “boutique” inmates in your camp. I have no idea why you believe it could deal with my 19 year “nap”. Although it does not show a date, reader comments are, however, from 2008. It probably went over your head, however, some embedded graphs show flat measurements for the 11 of the 19 years covered, and some graphs started with the year 2000, instead of 1998. A minor inconvenience which you and the narrators seem to prefer to overlook. Instead of just pulling up this “proof” to silence people like myself, you should have gone through it yourself. It mentions sources such as “the met” (East Anglia) which was involved in scandals (fixing datas) and many commenters question the material presented, so I won’t have to repeat them here.
                                                                          Yes Matt-in-the-Box, you find me contemptible because I call your bluffs. Your imaginations do not line up with the facts. And you continue to display mannerism that does not increase your credibility.
                                                                          And here is one more little tidbit. The IPCC’s mandate only involves anthropogenic causes. Let me see, that is like sending a wrestler into the ring with both legs and one upper arm tied up. Because 65% of all weather/climate contributors have natural sources.
                                                                          However, your first concern should really be to keep your appointment. Foul language never did replace knowledge. Mention to her that I said that.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Real world versus fantasy. You live in the latter.

                                                                          Remember everything you mention has been thoroughly debunked already. If you’re still banging a University East Anglia climategate drum you have been proven wrong years ago. In the light of evidence you have to change your views.

                                                                          You are standing in front of a red tomato, saying it’s blue, when the whole world is saying it is red, measured the color to the nanometer which shows it is red and you are still saying it is blue. You are wrong.

                                                                          So if I am using seemingly rude words, it is because you are a denier.

                                                                          You are wrong. 100% wrong. You have little understanding of the world. You have the arrogance to think it is not so. You are a blind man.

                                                                          Your politics sucks.
                                                                          Your level of science knowledge is infantile.
                                                                          Your arrogance is overwhelming.
                                                                          It is very sad that on this planet someone as intellectually pathetic as you exists.

                                                                          Fool.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Why do you insist on proving your ignorance?
                                                                          On this page you have used rude language to other people, not because I am a denier who believes the climate is changing.
                                                                          Now, see that shrink! It’s later than you think!

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          You’re an ignorant and persistent dickhead.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          You have proven that your opinion has no value.
                                                                          Now, pick up that phone. Up your appointment. Don’t contact your mother until you are notably better. Don’t add to her grief!

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          You’re right my opinions don’t matter.

                                                                          Facts do.

                                                                          Objective truth is king. Like the measured data that shows the world is warming fast.

                                                                          That’s why you’re a gimboid prick.

                                                                          Aren’t you dead already, old man?

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Yes, Einstein, the climate changes. Sometimes it gets warmer and then it cools again. Did I not mention that? Why did you not get it?
                                                                          Now, to your mental health. Take care of it now. Not fast. “Fast” is no concept to you! Today!
                                                                          And, thank you for your concern about me. No, I am not dead yet. But I may discard you. Not only are you addicted to foul language, you lack imagination (and obvious knowledge). Truth appears to baffle you. Any time I offer you truth it upsets you and you are back into the foul language…
                                                                          Pick up that phone.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          And then the world industrializes and reaches emission levels of 36.1 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide last year and the extra heat it traps is stored largely in the ocean.

                                                                          Facts and reality, you dottering old fool.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Any idea how boring you are? Now you are repeating something I said earlier… Except you leave out that the results of all these emissions are zero, the temperature remains the same (even some of your “evidence” showed it, as I pointed out) and the sea level rise remains steady at 3mm pr. year. Which proves that whatever makes the climate change: it ain’t CO2! Facts and reality.
                                                                          If you were interested in facts and reality, you would get to that appointment… Your obsessions have not changed since you started writing here. Just thinking about your religion of climate change makes you go crazy. Only you can stop it. Now get going…

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          “these emissions are zero”

                                                                          Bullshit.

                                                                          You are a dumb shit.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Yup. You did it! Too boring…
                                                                          Adios, amigo malo.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Riddance ignoramus.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          We are now above 400ppm CO2 in the atmosphere, where extra CO2 now has a logarithmically decreasing impact as a greenhouse gas.
                                                                          http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/05/14/co2-nears-400-ppm-relax-its-not-global-warming-end-times-but-only-a-big-yawn-climate-depot-special-report/
                                                                          Renowned climatologist: “You can go outside & spit & have the same effect as doubling Carbon Dioxide.”

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Bullshit.

                                                                          Go and build a glasshouse in the Arizona Desert and sit in it for the whole of July.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          The Earth isn’t surrounded by glass, sh1te-for-brains. Growers pump in CO2 to greenhouses for extra plant growth, which is all it does, above 400ppm.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Take a physics lesson shit for brains.

                                                                        • Johnpd
                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Read a science book. Read what happens to plants as CO2 goes up and continues to go up. Those stomata get bigger and yields go up, and then CO2 goes higher and then plants stop reacting positively.

                                                                          What a sad fucking day. The morons have taken over the asylum.

                                                                          And read skeptical science. For each of your calls to read a bullshit blog, a million fold for fucks sake read something scientific.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Something scientific for you Troll Moron, a peer reviewed paper:
                                                                          http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/?s=Trolls
                                                                          Trolls are Narcissists, Psychopaths & Sadists.
                                                                          Looked in the mirror lately?
                                                                          Get back in your box, under the bridge, Troll.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          A troll? don’t be stupid. This is a shit article of bare faced lies that has attracted dumb as fuck flies who don’t understand reality. Pointing this out makes you morons apoplectic. You are all mental midgets. The evidence is unequivocal that the world is warming. You fuckwits deserve to be marginalised. You are worthless intellectual midgets. Your brains don’t work very well.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          You ask for science bum-brain, & I give you a peer-reviewed article. You reply with nowt but insults. Where’s your science shitbrain? Chew on this moron:
                                                                          http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/2015/12/04/the-robust-pause-resists-a-robust-el-nio-still-no-global-warming-at-all-for-18-years-9-months/

                                                                          You’re peddling lies, more lies, nothing but lies, boxbrain.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box
                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Morning boxhead. I read no further than the first sentence because there is no warming trend. RSS & UAH satellite temperature datasets & millions of radiosonde balloon datasets show no warming for past 19 years, thicko. Your govt is corrupt & greedy & wants taxes on your electricity, numbskull, & you’re too dumb to figure that out, CNUT.
                                                                          http://www.drtimball.com/2015/co2-is-the-demon-because-malthus-and-ehrlich-were-wrong-about-overpopulation/

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          No you read no further, because you’re scared to. You know you are lying to yourself, so you can’t even trust yourself to read anything that isn’t pre-approved for morons.

                                                                          Read this (if you’re not too much of a pussy):

                                                                          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/climate-change-game-over-global-warming-climate-sensitivity-seven-degrees-a7407881.html

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          The unlimited stupidity of the box-brain.
                                                                          1) in the 1880s earth was coming out of The Little Ice Age.
                                                                          The little warming we’ve had has been a good thing, wanker.
                                                                          2) Michael Mann can now legally & openly be called a fraud since he failed to present evidence in his court case against the good climatologist, drtimball.com
                                                                          Mann tried to wipe from history the Medieval Warm Period, warmer than now, pre-industrial & prosperous. His infamous Hockey Stick Graph, a world laughing stock, was at first promoted by the fraudulent UN IPCC.
                                                                          Mark Steyn’s book A Disgrace to the Profession deals with this fraud, you sh1te-for-brains.
                                                                          http://www.c3headlines.com
                                                                          Plenty of graphs & articles showing the warming/climate fraud.
                                                                          Click on Quotes to find the agenda of the madmen/1%s pushing this con.
                                                                          Keep posting sh1te, shithead, I’ll keep sweeping it away.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Fuck off you lying cunt.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          I know a bloke just like you: all temper, no brains, pathetic, you moron.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          You’ve won, by being the most boring and relentless prick in history.

                                                                          Oh and the world is getting warmer.

                                                                          But you can really just fuck off.

                                                                          Yournewswire.com is a pile of shit for shithead readers who know exactly nothing and have shit for brains.

                                                                          Sincerely you can fuck right off.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          & deprive myself of the fun of jerking your chain, fuckwit?
                                                                          No way, Jose. 🙂
                                                                          Your insults, lies & hysteria have been shown clearly as insufficient to hold up the warming/climate scam.
                                                                          It’s a hoax, it’s a scam, it’s a huge lie & anyone with even half a brain knows it.
                                                                          Yes, this means you, bollix for brains. 🙂
                                                                          http://www.drtimball.com/2011/ipcc-and-supporters-on-treadmill-of-false-explanations/
                                                                          Enjoy, boxhead.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Liar, liar, lair. Eveything you wrote has been thoroughly debunked over and over and that makes you a lying cunt.

                                                                          Yournewswire are lying cunts.

                                                                          Come the revolution …

                                                                          We’ll start with your new liar in chief, and we won’t stop til those of you lying cuntservatives are all gone.

                                                                          Scientific rationalism will drive policy, not the interest of oil and coal companies and their pathetic piece of shit ideological fellow travelers.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          HEHEHEHEHE, the curtain is pulled aside & the boxhead shows himself a raving Communist Revolutionary Cunt.
                                                                          FYI, bricks for brains, the oil co’s are all owned by the Banksters, who have been financing both sides of every war, conflict & revolution since the French Revolution. Wars make debts = profits & power for banksters, moron.
                                                                          http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Two books I reco’ for you, Troll:
                                                                          1) Pawns in the Game, 1955, by William Guy Carr.
                                                                          The bankster/moneylender plan for world domination was cooked up 1773, by Rothschild & pals, after they got the Dutch army captain William Stadtholder on the English throne & gat the Bank of England chartered, 1694.

                                                                          2) The Creature from Jekyll Island, by G. Edward Griffin.
                                                                          How the Central Banksters captured US, establishing the Fed, 1913.

                                                                          Also: youtube: all wars are bankers wars

                                                                          Enjoy, sh1te for brains.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          An anti-semite as well. That makes you a clusterfuck of a hate and stupid.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          & you’re a cnut.

                                                                        • 999Greg

                                                                          The repeated F-bomb (& other similar stuff) usage and name-calling has really modified the respect level.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Foul mouthed contempt for the brain dead ideological warriors is entirely appropriate.

                                                                        • 999Greg

                                                                          If you really believe that, then you have fallen into the feeding-the-trolls trap —- and have become one yourself. sad

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Diddums.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          For dumb shits who are struggling to understand, here’s some satellite data. The Remote Sensing Systems Lower Troposphere (TLT) analysis shows a 1.35 +- 0.08K/century rise.

                                                                          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8238fc87f58729bbb7b2f1db375476e5f033de14651ac222053e7eed9f2da4f5.jpg

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Go to http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
                                                                          put: no warming 18 years 8 months in search box
                                                                          Lord Monckton’s essay.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Lord Monckton is a fraud.

                                                                          Lord Monckton is a lying cunt.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Just a reminder: the article’s headline proclaims “Tens of Thousands of Scientists declare Climate Change a Hoax”
                                                                          That’s too difficult for you to understand? Better check with your shrink if there is a cancellation. See him sooner. Double up on your medication till you get there… Lay off the KoolAid!

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          The article is shit.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Ziggy I might have done You wrong!
                                                                          youre against the hoax…..appologies!

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          You have to be the thickest, rudest & most aggressive wing nut I’ve come across in a dog’s age. You veer between science & politics & make no sense of either.
                                                                          Get back in your box & bolt down the lid.

                                                                        • Judy Martin

                                                                          well well well..mr personality here has got his panties ina twist..wait till he finds out trump won and is the next potus…..poor child. oh, by the way. what is your degree in? hmmm… you talk a good line there boy…but you arent foolin anybody..you still live in your parents basement dont ya

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          That’s 3 degrees numnut.

                                                                          And look some graphs:

                                                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/11/17/the-north-pole-is-an-insane-36-degrees-warmer-than-normal-as-winter-descends/?utm_term=.c9beae2c5232

                                                                          http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

                                                                          THe new POTUS is a piece of shit, and Americans have fucked up badly. It’s like the end of Thelma and Louise and they just pressed down on the accelerator.

                                                                          You’re a nation in steep decline, and it shows in the low levels of education.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Ian Plimer’s excellent book is Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science
                                                                          You’re a liar as well as an idiot.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Ian Plimer is just a liar.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Great list. 🙂 May I recommend drtimball.com & his books?

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          So where did your brain get so damaged that you bought into man made global warming? Oh I know, it was the first ctrails over the ship you were on eh?

                                                                        • http://www.womanology.co.uk/ Andy Bodle

                                                                          “And, of course, there are the more than 31,000 American scientists (to date) who have signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative” …

                                                                          Funny how that claim does not link to anything, or cite any source or credible authority.

                                                                          Except it’s not funny, because the dangerous fascist moron who wrote this just PULLED IT OUT OF HIS ASS to manipulate poor, gullible fools like you.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Do you have evidence that the 31,000 scientists did not sign what they signed? Send it to the author of the article.
                                                                          Please note my opinion about foul-mouthed people. It does not increase your credibility.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          31,487 scientists, inc 9,029 with PhDs petition US Govt to reject Kyoto.
                                                                          http://www.petitionproject.org

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Read Michael Crichton’s novel, State of Fear.
                                                                          It’s a great place to start understanding the warming/climate scam.
                                                                          Even an aggressive moron should be able to absorb it.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Excellent article & video. The only way to progress is free speech & scientific truth. Patrick Moore is a top man.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Funny how the dumber people are, the more aggressive & insulting they are.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          John you are the digital equivalent of stepping in dog shit.

                                                                          I feel dirty.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          A mate of mine says skeptical….posts ONLY lies. I’ve never bothered even looking at the sh1te.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Liar. You don’t have any friends.

                                                                        • Jiriki13

                                                                          I just realized that Matt in the Box is using a picture of his uncle… Me thinks he has aspirations of reaching that level of intelligence. It’s been interesting read through the comments here. As someone alluded to up in there somewhere, you can’t force people to believe the truth against their will. If people want to believe this climate change crap, they will. I remember when Al Gore first started spouting this garbage, they called it global warming. Then, when it became evident (note, MitB, this means as a result of the evidence), that global warming was a hoax, the idiots with the most to gain/lose from the fraud started calling it climate change instead. Which is something we’ve known happens for years, just didn’t have as much data about it. But the one good thing about Mr. Gore’s lies is that a lot of scientists started to look into it. So now we have a lot more about it, and the results show what many of us already knew. Climates change. The vikings raised cows on Greenland when the weather was much warmer than it is now. That’s a fact. Although Monkey in the Box seems to think that’s irrelevant. Fact is, climate in Siberia was tropic at one point, as evidenced by the fact that Woolly Mammoths have been discovered frozen in glaciers with tropical foilage in their stomachs. Note that this also indicates a sudden and drastic freeze, probably as the result of volcanic activity initiating an ice-age. Fact is that climates change, and have for thousands of years. And man has never caused those changes, and still is not.
                                                                          Now…does that mean we should ignore pollutants and our effect on our environment and indiscriminately destroy it? Of course not! As humans we should constantly be looking for ways to improve our world for the betterment not only of ourselves, but also our children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren. But to see people so bloated by the KoolAid is disturbing, quite frankly. I’m afraid they’ve had too much flouride in their water or toothpaste!
                                                                          There are far too many idiot in world already who are content to let others do their thinking for them:
                                                                          – Obama counted on the ignorance and apathy of the populace, and look where it got us! Double the deficite, an unaffordable healthcare system, a populace who is more divided and racist and hateful than ever, and a government that the country knows without a doubt is more corrupt and untrustworthy at every level than at any time in the history of this country!
                                                                          – Clinton counted on it, too. But thankfully most Americans woke up and it didn’t work for her!
                                                                          – Jury’s still out on Trump. But hopefully he doesn’t follow the same path as the last few presidents. It’s time we had someone who we can count on. But with idiots like Monkey in the Box spouting their rage and idiocy, my hope is dwindling. They aren’t able to think for themselves… So maybe we’re stuck with a society where the government has to do the thinking for them. Seems there have been a few movies made about that type of society. Shudder!

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Another clusterfuck of stupid. There must be a lot of cousin lovin’ goin’ on in the USA.

                                                                          Everyone of your assertions about climate have already been debunked, and I refer another scientifically illiterate to skepticalscience.com.

                                                                          Well maybe not all. They probably don’t even bother with the bat shit craziest of them all. “Fact is, climate in Siberia was tropic at one point, as evidenced by the
                                                                          fact that Woolly Mammoths have been discovered frozen in glaciers with
                                                                          tropical foilage in their stomachs.”

                                                                          If that is a “fact” then arf, arf, you’re a clever pinniped.

                                                                          I just can’t believe how fucking stupid these last hold outs are, desperately trying to rationalize their false beliefs.It’s moronic, it’s pathetic. It’s you.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box
                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Same wonderful display of intelligence! Our politicians are not the problem. Those idiots who vote for them are.

                                                                          Here is more proof:

                                                                          http://www.conservativefreepress.com/politics/worthlessness-paris-climate-agreement/

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          The problem is shit publications like that, and the politicians who pander to ignorant morons whilst taking cash from oil companies.

                                                                          They’re not called cuntservatives for nothing.

                                                                          And the world warms … https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9701f5c6b5f8df4c581ac0d342c0e2ba5634a8056fae48d3909a722a19b3b40a.jpg
                                                                          http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/11/e1501923.full

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          John, I hope you won’t let this person get to you. He does not seem to possess any knowledge and runs to google for what in his warped mind is a suitable reply. This person is either mentally disturbed or he gets paid for trying to make people such as yourself drop out of this conversation. Heaven (and Vivian Krause) know that there is a lot of money kicking about to make the latter a distinct possibility…
                                                                          Thank you for recommending the work of Tim Ball!

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          would that be kitchen warming hoax?

                                                                  • Cool_Senpai

                                                                    You are a fucking idiot. Saying vote blue alone is very much proof of that.
                                                                    You can keep your corrupt piece of shit Hillary.

                                                                    • Matt in the Box

                                                                      Such hostility.

                                                                      But it does little to allay my fears that right wingers are all as dumb as fuck.

                                                                      • Cool_Senpai

                                                                        Sorry I am not a right winger. And there has been plenty of evidence over the years to prove she is corrupt. You are just a moronic liberal sheep, that goes along with it.

                                                                  • Jiriki13

                                                                    Wow! Someone drank the kool-aid down to the last drop!

                                                                    And they have the audacity to state that “Manipulating stupid people by lying to them to push an ideological barrow is evil.”! ha ha Apparently they haven’t been paying attention to the crap coming out of the Democrat’s mouths over the past several years…

                                                                    Anyone stupid enough to buy the rhetoric of either political party without using their brains to check their facts is a complete idiot! You think the Democrats are going to save you? Or the Republicans? Sorry, but nobody can save an fool against their will.

                                                                • Anne

                                                                  If it’s so real why aren’t those celebrities who are speaking out about it….getting more publicity and attention mind you, why aren’t they giving up their private planes, boats and yachts, and houses bigger than a city??? Hypocrates!

                                                                  • Ena Kana

                                                                    climate change is science, and we all know that those who question science are in the REALLY DUMB CROWD

                                                                    • Johnpd

                                                                      Climate is always changing, for 4.5 billion years, as Buzz Aldrin said. Anyone who has done their reading knows that man-made CO2 has had no measurable effect on either warming (there’s been none for ~ 19 years) or climate.
                                                                      Anyone who has sucked up the propaganda is in the REALLY DUMB CROWD.

                                                                      • Grizzly Adams

                                                                        bwahahaha…19 years…bwahahaha…what a crock…it’s bad science to use a year where an intermittent whether anomally occurred as the foundation of the position.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          In that case, what do you wish to deny about Kenneth Richard’s claim that the CO2/temperature correlation only matches 15% of the time during the past 165 years, namely between 1977 and 2001?

                                                                        • Grizzly Adams

                                                                          Why would I try to deny a single cherry picked statistic that in and of itself is meaningless to the climate argument

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Sorry. I did not realise that Richard’s claim needed explanation… If the CO2 emissions and the rise of global temperature only match 15% of the time over the last 165 years, would it not indicate that something else instead of CO2 causes the temperature to rise? If you do not like 1988 as a starting point, how do you feel about the Summer of 1248? Will you accept that statistic to prove global cooling?

                                                                        • Grizzly Adams

                                                                          It didn’t need explanation..neither does your latest. My response is unchanged.

                                                                        • Steve Vise

                                                                          Yup. Can’t shake your faith in the Church of Anthropogenic Climate Change. Praise St. Algore !

                                                                        • Grizzly Adams

                                                                          Faith…I have none…when someone floats an argument that has yet to be debunked I’ll have a look…to date however, nothing but the old tired arguments.

                                                                      • Ena Kana

                                                                        You take the simple view, but nature is not simple. Climate has OF COURSE been changing since Earth’s atmosphere first began accumulating; this is not about whether or not the climate IS changing, its about the RATE OF CHANGE. Now, if you had been using reputable sources in your readings you would have known that, and would know without a doubt that anthropogenic climate change is a fact of reality.

                                                                        • Cool_Senpai

                                                                          It is funny that *reputable sources* means, only scientist that you believe
                                                                          and speak on global warming as a fact.

                                                                        • Rae

                                                                          Um, no. Reputable sources include not just peer reviewed journals which some have open access to (from experts who know the complexity of earth science, or what we know as of today), government researchers and all that. http://writingcenter.appstate.edu/sites/writingcenter.appstate.edu/files/Credible%20v%20Non-Credible%20Sources13.pdf You have access too. You just choice ignorance instead. And humanity suffers for your stupidity. Well done.

                                                                        • Cool_Senpai

                                                                          First of all you dumb piece of shit, I already know what that is. But see, sheep like you only follow everything the government claims. But you ignore everything else other researchers claim. So honestly humanity suffers from your stupidity, you dumb cunt.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          Yeah, the ignorant came out and voted in record numbers. After 8 years of watching Honey Boo Boo and the Apprentice, they were well prepared, armed with all the facts…..
                                                                          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                                                                        • Seeker of Truth

                                                                          Seems the number of “ignorant” ones must have skyrocketed since Obama took office. Thank his “educational policies” for that. And by voting more of the same you are voting for more ignorance. This leads me to believe that the ignorant ones are NOT the deplorable’s actions or the people they serve, its YOU and the people YOU serve.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Anthropogenic CO2 releases are sky high. 25% Of the total has gone up during this very century. Yet, as was mentioned above, the temperature has remained flat for the last 25 years… I’d love to see your answer since you seem to know something about the RATE OF CHANGE…

                                                                        • John Delaney

                                                                          Less than 2% of polution is man made ! Forest fires alone dump 10 times the carbon into the atmosphere than man. PS.. The human body is composed of carbon ergo not all bad (unless you are retarded liberal … then of course your noxious fumes are deadly .

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          With all due respect, John, just because some people now talk about carbon “pollution”, they then turn around and tax CO2, a clear gas with very little evidence that it is a driver of global warming.

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          What does “clear” have to do with it?
                                                                          What’s clear is the evidence that it is the primary driver of global warming.
                                                                          1) CO2 absorbs IR radiation at the wavelengths the earth emits. We can now see that in the spectrum chart of the Earth taken from space. https://scienceofdoom.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/olr-toa-goody-1989.png
                                                                          2) Conservation of energy demands that that end up raising the atmospheric temp.
                                                                          3) The average temperature of the Earth is 60 degrees F warmer than that of the moon, despite absorbing less than 80% as much of the sun’s energy as the moon does. This is as close to the “controlled experiment” self-proclaimed skeptics demand as they are going to get; the same sunlight at the same distance; the difference is the earth has an atmosphere. Given points 1 and 2 above, and no other known mechanism, scientific integrity requires us to postulate cause and effect.
                                                                          4) Svante Arrhenius worked all this out for the stratosphere in 1896 and E. O. Hulburt worked out the convection of the heat from the troposphere to the stratosphere in 1931, demonstrating that the limiting factor is, indeed, Arrhenius’ mechanism, the calculations for which remain valid 120 years later without correction.
                                                                          5) Given the above, why would anybody NOT expect raising the CO2 level further to raise the temperature further? There are no known mechanisms that would limit it. Note that in the graph above that CO2 absorption is NOT maxed out, there is still energy radiating outwards that more CO2 will absorb, making that notch deeper and putting that energy back into the atmosphere, despite some “skeptics” claim that it is already saturated.
                                                                          6) Yes we know hat the effect depends on the logarithm of the CO2 concentration, not directly, meaning that the amount of change slows down as you start to near the point of saturation. Everybody knows that; it is intuitively obvious and appears that way in Arrhenius’ calculations, despite some “skeptics” claim that this is a new thing they have just figured out which changes everything.
                                                                          7) We are digging up and burning massive amounts of carbon from underground, as coal, petroleum, and natural gas.
                                                                          8) This generates massive amounts of CO2.
                                                                          9) Although the Earth has been disposing of some of this extra CO2, measurements of the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere show it is rising consistent with about half of it remaining in the atmosphere.
                                                                          10) The formerly stable isotopic composition of the CO2 in the atmosphere is changing as would be expected by the addition of carbon which has been out of the carbon cycle for a hundred million years.
                                                                          11) The amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes etc, is small compared to what is generated from fossil fuels, despite what some “skeptics” claim. Also we can see the small loss of atmospheric O2 from making new CO2 (from the old fossil carbon), that wouldn’t happen if it was old underground CO2 coming out.
                                                                          12) Despite both sets of data being noisy, the rise in measured global average temp is largely correlated with the rise in atmospheric CO2, i.e. beginning around the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, and accelerating over the past 50 years.
                                                                          13) The above mechanism not just being sufficient for, but essentially requiring rising global average temperature from our fossil fuel use, any suggestion that there is some other cause which just happens to look just like fossil fuel use also requires some mechanism that prevents the fossil fuel use from having its effect. No viable candidate for either of these mechanisms has been suggested.
                                                                          14) The “skeptics” observation that the atmospheric water vapor has a greater total effect on IR absorbance than CO2 does ignores that changing temperature also affects the amount of atmospheric water vapor, making it a feedback mechanism rather than setting an absolute value.
                                                                          15) Given the above, the only uncertainty is how much effect is expected, including positive and negative feedback effects, mainly water vapor. Early theories that additional atmospheric water vapor would be a negative feedback proved wrong, and the estimated amount by which atmospheric water vapor enhances the CO2’s effect is getting more precise all the time.
                                                                          16) The argument by “skeptics” that “the models don’t predict correctly” is not how science works. The correct question is whether a model with a greenhouse gas component fits observations better than one without; and it’s absolutely true that no model without a greenhouse gas component predicts the rise over the past century or so at all.
                                                                          17) In fact, most of the inaccuracy in predictions by models with a greenhouse gas component appears to relate to the El Nino Southern Oscillation in the Pacific; in years when the models predict that correctly, they do well in predicting global average temp. That’s where the research focus is these days.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          I am delighted to see someone, you, has finally taken the time to actually reply to specific questions asked by “sceptics”. Not being a scientist myself I have followed certain sceptics, such as Tim Ball, Ian Clark and Patrick Moore. During the past 8 years, or so, I have, unsuccessfully I might say, asked people to rebut the evidence provided by these experts. I am particularly interested because Patrick Moore uses graphs in his presentations which clearly show that CO2 and global temperature do not correlate over the long run. During a shorter period of time, the last 165 years which are generally accepted as the “industrial age”, temperature and CO2 are only in sync 15% of the time, namely between 1977 and 2001. Compliments of Kenneth Richard
                                                                          You must, therefor, excuse my disinterest in the material provided by you. None of it even remotely touches on the points in question and leaves me to wonder how much out of touch you must be to not even know what primary questions are asked by sceptics, or, by “deniers”.
                                                                          Anyway, perhaps you will take the time to have a look at Patrick Moore’s video which is embedded towards the end of the following article and reply to something that is relevant…
                                                                          Hope you don’t mind that I go back to George Nori’s program. He has the author of “Not by fire but by ice”. It was just mentioned that the oceans were 17* warmer at the time the dinosaurs went extinct and CO2 levels were a lot higher, both during previous ice ages and tropical eras…
                                                                          I am just looking at your paragraph #17 again. Boy are you ever wrong! All predictions have been incorrect! The polar ice did not disappear in the year 2014. Additional CO2 in the atmosphere has created additional plant growth. We have had less storms. Less draughts. The IPCC certainly did not predict the current hiatus, which so far has lasted 19 years and nobody knows when or how it will end! Grrrrrrr.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          An excellent point made, thank You!

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt
                                                                        • Colin Spencer

                                                                          Earth does not emit IR radiation, it reflects is. The primary component causing radiation retention is not carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. It is water vapour. Clouds as well as the invisible moisture content of the air. Real scientists have grave doubts about the influence of carbon dioxide with regard to radiation retention because carbon dioxide is such a tiny proportion of the atmosphere – .03%, so I am led to believe. Sure, if it goes to .04% it would increase by one third, but it is still an infinitesimal component of the atmosphere. There are many who just can’t admit that fact, unfortunately.

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          “Earth does not emit IR radiation, it reflects it.”
                                                                          Not starting off well, by demonstrating a denial of a central truth of physics. “All matter with a temperature greater than absolute zero emits thermal radiation.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_radiation.
                                                                          “The primary component causing radiation retention is not carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. It is water vapour.”
                                                                          Yeah, like I said:
                                                                          “14) The “skeptics” observation that the atmospheric water vapor has a greater total effect on IR absorbance than CO2 does ignores that changing temperature also affects the amount of atmospheric water vapor, making it a feedback mechanism rather than setting an absolute value.
                                                                          15) Given the above, the only uncertainty is how much effect is expected, including positive and negative feedback effects, mainly water vapor. Early theories that additional atmospheric water vapor would be a negative feedback proved wrong, and the estimated amount by which atmospheric water vapor enhances the CO2’s effect is getting more precise all the time.”
                                                                          “Real scientists have grave doubts about the influence of carbon dioxide with regard to radiation retention because carbon dioxide is such a tiny proportion of the atmosphere”
                                                                          No real scientists “have grave doubts about the influence of carbon dioxide with regard to radiation retention because carbon dioxide is such a tiny proportion of the atmosphere”. Not one. Zero. That would be a good test for “Not a real scientist.”
                                                                          Nitrogen accounts for 78% of the atmosphere, oxygen 21% and argon 0.9%. Here’s the emission spectrum of the planet, labelled with the atmospheric gasses which absorb at those frequencies. http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/schmidt_05/curve_s.gif Do you see oxygen, nitrogen, or argon there anywhere? No, because they absorb 0% of that energy. Given that 78% of 0, 21% of 0, and .9% of 0 total to 0, the absorption of the remaining “infinitesimal” 0.1% begins to have some significance; i.e., it accounts for ALL of the absorbance. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you have an issue with the general legal definition of too impaired to drive at 0.08% alcohol, or is that too infinitesimal to make a difference?

                                                                        • Colin Spencer

                                                                          Wikiphysics doesn’t cut it. Emission is the result of reflection. Stored heat is not emitted from the earth. 1st law of thermodynamics includes the statement that “heat is attracted to a colder surface” therefore the colder surface that absorbs heat does not emit heat. Physics? You need to put a bit more effort into your theory than to consult Dr Google.

                                                                        • zzz05
                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Now thats someone that the Ctrails have greatly damaged alrady. You dont seem to take latest formula of lithium in last few months very well. Youre not alone!!!!!

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          WRONG—LOOK AT THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS.
                                                                          Do you even know how science works?? Look again —> C-O-N-S-E-N-S-U-S
                                                                          YOU COLIN SPENCER ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BACKGROUND RATE. THE BACKGROUND RATE OF CHANGE IS NOT THE PROBLEM——–>IT IS THE RATE OF CHANGE CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY THAT IS THE CONCERN.
                                                                          —–ANTHROPOGENIC ACCELERATION—–
                                                                          The background rate is what all creatures adapt to SLOWLY. Your focus on the background rate reveals that you don’t understand the subject at all. Why don’t you visit Amazon.com and order a science textbook and begin your study of the real world.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Read Ian Plimer’s book: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science. The idea that man-made CO2 is the primary climate driver is ludicrously stupid.

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          No it is you that are ludicrously stupid. CO2 is an INSULATING AGENT. HOW MF SIMPLE DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPELLED OUT FOR YOU

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          YOU ziggy echardt are “SOME PEOPLE”
                                                                          Climate researchers however are scientists who study reality. You are just a worker bee now go do something usefull….

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          No problem, Ena. Let’s leave it to scientists. (Let’s make sure there is freedom for science. “Scientists” with an agenda, especially those who predict the Artic is ice-free by 2014, should be shunned… Agreed?)

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          No offense, but this shows you don’t get the basics of the debate. Forest fires make no net contribution to climate change because that carbon they spew into the air was in the air relatively recently, until those trees pulled it out; and even if there were no fire it would end up back in the atmosphere before too long as the trees die and rot; and it gets pulled out again as new plants grow, etc. The famous carbon cycle. This has resulted in a metastable CO2 equilibrium for a few hundred million years.
                                                                          In contrast, before that point, huge quantities of CO2 were pulled out of the air by plants in the Carboniferous Era so quickly that when the plants died they were buried and fossilized before they could rot back into CO2, thereby lowering the atmospheric CO2, temperature, and humidity. This “new” climate is the one in which all land animals and all modern plants evolved to thrive, as well as humanity’s entire agricultural system, economy, society, habitat, etc.
                                                                          Now we are digging up that hundred million year old carbon and putting it back into the atmosphere ASAP. Do you see why that is different from forest fires? And what the most likely guess of how the climate will respond is hotter and wetter?

                                                                        • aspenllc

                                                                          Never read such libtard dribble in my life!
                                                                          And did you actually say evolved?? As in the completely bullshit theory of evolution?
                                                                          A child knows evolution is total bullshit!

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          Just because you ASPENLLC have an emotional reaction from hearing facts, does not mean that those facts are any less valid!
                                                                          Evolution was going on long before your stupid @$$ fell out of your momma’s vaginal orifice, and you crying about not being able to accept reality doesn’t make reality any less REAL.
                                                                          I know that four-letter word scares you, you prefer the IMAGINED. I’ve got a simple response for this kind of thinking:
                                                                          GROW TF UP

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Right on sir!
                                                                          Humans hardly make a dent into the so called global warming, our trees are dying for lack of co2 not because of it!!!

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          as was mentioned above, your “the temperature has remained flat for the last 19 years.” factoid has been retired.
                                                                          Of course, as anybody with the intellectual curiosity and/or integrity to actually look at a graph knows, the “remained flat” was always BS, based on a definition of flat as “if you subtract the average temp of this year from the (up till then unusual, now routine) average temp in 1998 and ignore everything else, you get a fairly small slope”. Which is not how you calculate an average no matter how dumb you are unless you are deliberately trying to be dumb.
                                                                          https://goo.gl/images/xUF4vo
                                                                          https://goo.gl/images/blj02j
                                                                          etc.

                                                                        • deniersareboneheads

                                                                          The last 5 years have been the hottest in recorded history. They call the temperature trend a hockey stick because it spiked when we started burning huge amounts of fossil fuels (at first we didn’t use very much) and the trend is straight up. People who lie about this for money or for fear of change are seriously endangering the future of our kids. You guys should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves. The author of this article is clearly a Trump cheerleader (see his other articles). I’ll be interested to see his articles on the spike in racist activity – his name doesn’t look very waspish. But if he is being paid to confuse people, I guess money bought his soul.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          You are entitled to your opinion, but not to your own facts… Source please. Where is the graph showing that the last 5 years were the hottest on record?

                                                                        • zzz05
                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Yup… That explains it. One and a half degrees up in 10 years? Wow!

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Say what you will but mr Trump got the climate warming hoax RIGHT!
                                                                          And its about time, hope he will do something about the Ctrail dumps over the Canada too1

                                                                        • Steve Vise

                                                                          “A fact of reality”. Of course, that “reality” is only real for those who believe it. As there are many tens of thousands of scientists who reject this “reality”, and since you are not a scientist, then you must accept the conclusion of the scientists with which you agree. This is called “faith”, and “anthropogenic climate change” is your religion.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          HAHAHA – you cannot “UNBELIEVE” reality. There are tens of dozens maybe who deny – they are all on fossil fuel payrolls, or they have their heads way up their ass trying to read the bibles there.

                                                                        • aspenllc

                                                                          So now the Bible is causing the myth of “global warming”???
                                                                          Makes perfect sense to me.. Hahahahaha

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          Actually, I was at my evangelical relative’s office one day when I heard another “well-informed” member of his church opined that he didn’t believe in global warming because “My God would not let that happen.” uh huh.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          So sorry that you are unable to grasp the difference between HISTORICAL climate change, and the accelerated process being amplified by carbon emissions. Of course, where you get your “info” makes a difference. There are FACTS, and there is the BULL you are BUYING.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          the only $GLOBAL WARMING$ comes out of the rear end and its called the Fart!

                                                                        • Peter Nann

                                                                          I think you lost the crowd here at ‘rate of change’.

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          Forest fires have been occurring since long before there were people. Obviously this theory that people cause forest fires in dry forests with campfires and cigarettes and so on is just a hoax started by Smokey the Bear so he can keep his cushy job, and cool Mountie hat.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Prove it, dumbo: how much warming has man caused?
                                                                          The total warming of the entire 20th century was about .8 Deg C, harmful to no one.

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          HARMFUL TO NO ONE
                                                                          It is you that makes claims, claims that you cannot substantiate except by your own worthless signature.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Yup, thats about it! Ctrails needed to be justified so the myth was invented for *just in case the SHTF* And it is not cheap to run the program, in comes the *carbon tax idea* to pay for it all……..

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Anthropogenic climate change, which used to to be called global warming before the warming stopped ~ 19 years ago, is a completely unscientific scam, hugely promoted in the lying MainSlimeStream Media which gave us Hillary 86% chance of winning. You cite no reliable sources so I recommend Prof. Ian Plimer’s book: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science.
                                                                          Simple question, moron, how has the rate of change, changed? You’re full of ‘it.

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          Your ego is a scam—you parlor non-facts to other Homo sapiens to establish yourself as a complete idiot in a fake-lab coat you bought online. Why don’t you stop typing and start reading DF

                                                                        • Mrmossyone

                                                                          Using the word homo sapien time and time again does NOT make you appear more intelligent. Just the opposite actually. Princess Bride comes to mind.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Absolutely correct! Bravo!

                                                                      • Kurtis Kunesh

                                                                        If it’s not a hoax we’re all screwed. And does the whole planet rest on the egos of groups of scientists who can’t agree that humans are in denial about destroying the biosphere, it’s genetic mutation, warring against each other in the name of Allah the god of greed and then saying that nature is doing it all to us so we don’t have any responsibility because that’s not good for business. Is that really what humans worship the business of Gaia domination as an Empire. I am divesting as best I am able from the needy greedy rat race. Namaste

                                                                      • timallard

                                                                        Johnpd states the denialista turd they drop all the time capturing data with an El Niño at the start to skew the results instead of like 30-years, the more the better the reliability, eh?

                                                                        It still stinks @disqus_g7kESc1tR4:disqus, we jumped CO2 100-ppm in a century nature can’t do that so we get your agenda-driven-drivel and don’t expect tomorrow to be like the geologic past because we left it, we be in the Anthropocene for a list of reasons some monumental.

                                                                        Setting a new record of 3.05-ppm in 2015 it was 10-Petagrams Carbon, 10-PgC about 37-Gigatons frozen it’s 37-km³ of CO2eqv or 3.7-Gt per 1-ppm CO2.

                                                                        That’s 370-Gt CO2 added to legacy with 1/4 remaining over 10,000-years, bad odds on 2C like it’s a joke right now expect 4C/7.2F in 84-years and counting down, aka “by 2100”.

                                                                        Buzz is on good drugs or alcohol or just ignore or insane, as in sociopaths knowing the reality and caught in the money-money trap, got their hands on the cash and can’t let go to save themselves or anyone else.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          I can’t think of anyone arguing against your data presented. The question remains, if CO2 causes global warming, why didn’t it for the last 19 years?

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          Easy one @Ziggy Eckardt it’s called El Niño, 1998 was a big one so if you start statistics from just before that year the results are skewed: find where the heating “slowed down” on this graph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0dXjmoA0dw

                                                                          What kind of planetary statistics do you expect when the start was 19-years ago, CO2 was ~365-ppm so how do you expect the planet to be in a “hiatus” when that’s 60-ppm above the maximum for the past 1,000,000-year and we passed that in 1916, 720-Gigatons worth of carbon??

                                                                          Are you that stupid to think it’ll go away by some miracle of Team OIigarch’s thermodynamics expertise, they lie all the time about it?

                                                                          The excess heat is in the oceans that are gathering 93% of it and atmospheric temperatures only reflect the air moving heat and moisture north and cold air south like an old fashioned ice-box and when the ice melts the food spoils.

                                                                          How the fk can it rain in December in Anchorage, Alaska? You go ahead an explain that historic evet for us thanks.

                                                                          Also, the pteropod populations, a favorite baby salmon food are losing population size from ocean acidification, all Alaskan waters will be below the aragonite saturation point within 60-years, it’s quite serious as it only gets worse.

                                                                          There is no “carbon budget” left that slogan equal to “manifest destiny”, the oceans are acidifying 10-times faster than an extinction event from the rate-of-change being unnaturally beyond natural systems dealing with it or it wouldn’t be that way, eh?

                                                                          Watch this, DARE TO SAY YES, eh?

                                                                          “The rate of acidification is 10-times faster or more than anything we have seen for the past 50-million years and perhaps over the last 300-million years.”.

                                                                          ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture by Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; 14:30 in CO2 vertical maps showing where the excess is; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFob9Wy45E

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Starting with your logic, that 1998 is a bad year to pick, I am sure you have no problem with my earlier suggestion that we should start measuring at the time when the Vikings were farming Greenland. It would then prove global cooling. If we go back to the middle of the Roman Warm Period it would prove that there is even more global cooling?… Statistics can be fun. One of my better jokes involves a statistic.
                                                                          Is it not interesting that when we start measuring the increasing temperature in 1977, the reason given is increasing CO2 emissions. When we look at the rise in global temperature in the 30s and 40s and there is no increase of the anthropogenic CO2 emissions, we ignore it. When we pick the year 1998 as a start whilst CO2 emissions are through the roof but the temperature remains static, our scientists who also gave us an ice free Arctic, the drying up rivers out of the Himalayas and disappearing polar bears, they pretend the hiatus does not exist. What’s the use of discussing any of this if you prefer to ignore facts? Did you know that the current hiatus was coming in 1998? Do you, or even one of your scientist friends, know when or how it will end?
                                                                          Like a Chinese torture we are told, drip-drip-drip, that warm water in the rivers makes our salmon disappear. Then we get a bumper crop of Coho, 2 Million of them appearing un-expected, and all we hear is an excited stream keeper at the Brunet River, reported in the little local paper… Nothing to see here, folks! Not even a pending disaster…

                                                                          It would be silly for me, definitely a non-scientist, to try and match wits with your Dr. Richard Feely. However, I must repeat my earlier question. If the so-called “deniers” are so wrong, why have I not heard anyone debunking Dr. Patrick Moore’s position on CO2 emissions? (That position, by the way, is shared by a lot of others!)
                                                                          Warmer water makes the oceans expand. Yet with all the extra heat stored in the world oceans it has kept the water level rise at an even 3mm per annum. Only totally ignorant people like Mayor Robertson of Vancouver believe that adds up to a meter by the end of the century. That’s why he wants to raise Vancouver’s dikes at a cost of $800.000.-. For those unfamiliar with the guy we affectionately call Mayor Moonbeam, he is the genius so concerned about GHG emissions that he converted many streets into bike lanes. Now traffic is so congested that it takes twice as long to get anywhere and I have no idea how much the emissions have increased.
                                                                          Even though Saint Suzuki was one of the “scientists” who 40 years ago cautioned that a new ice age was coming, the mainstream global warmers have shed those predictions and changed to global warming, then had to change to climate change and now talk ocean acidification, we have seen scientist “deniers” who have successfully proven any of this to either be wrong, of little consequence or to be a result of natural causes.
                                                                          One more thought. If a warming planet is of such concern and we know for sure that it is caused by CO2 emissions, why then do we have our American and European “friends” pounce on poor ol’ Fort Mac? All of Canada, the second largest country in the world, is responsible for less than 2% of global emissions. China’s increases alone would wipe out all gains made in less than a month, if we were stupid enough to shut down all of Canada! (Whilst successfully blocking a pipeline to keep our oil landlocked, “friend” Obama is responsible for the largest increase in US oil and gas explorations. He also made a deal with China. Whilst Canada must keep it’s oil in the ground, China is welcome to increase emissions till the year 2030. Stay tuned. There is another conference coming in Marocco!)

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          @disqus_8e3O1FV1Wq:disqus states, ” I am sure you have no problem with my earlier suggestion that we should start measuring at the time when the Vikings were farming Greenland.”; and he’s totally wrong about that.

                                                                          Examining that CO2 chart I posted, I took a screenshot of where we passed the maximum CO2 for the 800,000-year ice-core records, all of them as an ensemble for global locations it was 305±5-ppm, the Vikings died off, it wasn’t a truly global warming and doesn’t show up in Tibetan glacial cores:

                                                                          Localized ice-cores vs global average temperature; “What the Ice Cores Tell Us”; at 3:10; Ellen Mosly-Thompson, AGU, Dec 2010; 8:19; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80mIbF5yEg
                                                                          http://www.mallard-design.com/mdc2010/media/co2-max-305-lines.jpg

                                                                          We went above the max about 1916, 100-years ago, we’re close enough to 405-ppm to call it 100-ppm gained; http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/history.html

                                                                          That rate-of-change is the problem nature never did that and can’t do it, sea-life takes too long to follow.

                                                                          Instead you must relate your thesis to the mid-Holocene warming, a geologic term for circa 8k-4k years-before-present that American archeologists called the Altithermal and it was about the time the Sahara dried out from it’s 20,000-year cycle tied to Milankovich forcings around 5k-ybp.

                                                                          That warmed the northern hemisphere about 1C/1.8F and turned most of western USA into arid steppe with a strip of desert from West Texas to Canada.

                                                                          CO2 varied from 255-270-ppm, only 15-ppm of CO2 managed to heat up the planet more than 100-ppm as the latter is too-much-too-fast for a response yet, it’s the time-frame of the effects from the speed and magnitude of the forcing on a bio-geochemical world.

                                                                          Phytoplankton are a major basis of the oceanic food-chain that’s not like on land, it’s upside down and the tiny things feed the whole chain.

                                                                          They with calcium-carbonate shelled trading CO2 imbalance in the atmosphere for loss in shells to greater than 7.9 oceanic pH average having enough aragonite to make them over thousands of years.

                                                                          So the thesis you propose is rather meaningless in the context of CO2 values and rate-of-change for reality it’s simply put with citations in this talk still takes an hour to cover the science.

                                                                          “The rate of acidification is 10-times faster or more than anything we have seen for the past 50-million years and perhaps over the last 300-million years.”.
                                                                          ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture by Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; 14:30 in CO2 vertical maps; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFob9Wy45E

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          I get it. Greenland was colder than it is right now and the Vikings were able to farm on ice… Of course they die off when an ice age moves in and steals your food supply!… Quiet frankly, I am getting tired of pointing people into the direction of those who have proven that CO2 does not drive the climate… Look it up yourself.

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          @Ziggy Eckardt states even more agenda-driven-driven thusly, “Quiet frankly, I am getting tired of pointing people into the direction of those who have proven that CO2 does not drive the climate…”, we are not amused.

                                                                          Maybe take 50-minutes and get the story on those Vikings you keep bringing up; “The Lost Viings”; 52:46; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea0iVLWTtg4

                                                                          They were devout church goers & seems priests didn’t allow them to mix with the “heathens” so they skipped out on the Inuit Luxury Kayak food service for dwindling revenue from ivory.

                                                                          And, they somehow missed that they overgrazed their herds, being the topsoils in Greenland are rather thin to begin with their herds began to dwindle from not enough hay in fall to feed them through the winter … sad tale indeed.

                                                                          They weren’t as smart as Tibetans and lived with their animals instead of a floor above them, rather stinky-cosy, eh?

                                                                          Yet Ziggy Eckardt thinks they were really cool because they landed like the settlers driven by “manifest destiny” to rob the Tribes of lands their territories as boundaries the Western Kill-n-Oppress all “heathens” in the arid west during a “good climate” spell, for the Vikings it was warmer for the settlers it was wetter than normal.

                                                                          Astronomical forcing drove the thing before the Anthropocene’s radical jump in CO2 acidifying the oceans 10-times faster than the PETM folks, that’s not trivial and is also heating the planet to ’bout 4C/7.2F in 84-years and counting down.

                                                                          Forget salmon their young’s basic food supply is dwindling from acidification reducing populations by increasing the energy a larva must put into a shell getting more and more, you can see the etching from the acidic water easily, it’s not a theory: “Jeremy Mathis, Impacts of Arctic Ocean Acidification – 31 March 2016”; 55:32; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kq7I3X5SY

                                                                          So when nature averages 1-ppm/1,000-years the big jump at the end of the last ice-age 1-ppm/180-years and we hit the highest CO2 value ever reached for 1,500,000-years in 1916 and added 100-ppm since then.

                                                                          By what nature does as a “radical jump” 1-ppm/180-years times 100 = 180,000-years worth of CO2 if nature did it.

                                                                          However, agenda-driven-drivel demands to point the finger away from CO2 as a driver by burn-baby-burn, Team Oligarch’s famous Circus Act the Ringmaster in this case being Ziggy Eckardt stepping up the ante on risk with no way out of the lion cage …

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Oh Ziggy, you’re so dumb..

                                                                          Here you are debunked yet again by the good people at Skeptical Science.
                                                                          http://www.skepticalscience.com/greenland-used-to-be-green.htm

                                                                          And look at the pretty graphs on this fresh off the academic press article:
                                                                          http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2016/11/record-heat-despite-a-cold-sun/#.WCm0ygoUOJc.facebook

                                                                          It seems the real science points to you being just an idiot Ziggy.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          As suggested by John Hunter, I will not respond to “Matt”

                                                                          However here is part of what he considers “proof”: (He obviously has no interest in informing himself and stops reading the minute he finds any kind of confirmation of his brainwashed status)

                                                                          Greenland was relatively warm between about 800-1300 AD due to the well-defined 1500 year solar cycle, as detailed by Singer and Avery in:

                                                                          “Unstoppable global warming every 1500 years”.

                                                                          We are currently in another upswing in the solar cycle, which started about 1750, and which will probably rise about another 0.5-1 degree C over the next few hundred years. Current T to the 21st century is entirely in line with this solar cyle trend. C02 is irrelevant to this cycle,it has been traced 600 times over the last 1 million years in ice cores, and is a result of an overlap between the 87 and 210 year solar cycles.

                                                                          It is well documented, world wide, and climatologists have conveniently forgotten about it (see reference given above).

                                                                          Greenland was settled by vikings during the last solar warming period, which is also why they travelled so far in general during this time period-the northern world was warm.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Do you believe your own bullshit Ziggy?

                                                                          Insolation is only a small determinant of forcings. Read Skepticalscience.com about your Greenland bullshitting.

                                                                          You remain a demented fool with zero understanding.

                                                                          And the world is still warming.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          Here is another link (accidentally?) forwarded by “expert” Matt:

                                                                          http://green-agenda.com/greenland.html

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Give up fuckface.

                                                                          You can respond with low quality links that have been debunked and debunked, but you refuse to read papers that prove you wrong.

                                                                          Your cherry picking and inability to spot bullshit is tiresome and doesn’t change reality. You really do have a low level of understanding of the world. You’re not very bright, we get it, so please shut the fuck up.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          As mentioned earlier, I will no longer respond to “science” at this level.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          You’re incapable of talking science Ziggy.
                                                                          You only do propaganda gullibility.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt
                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Well that’s a bucket of shit.

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          We shouldn’t stand by doing nothing while the least capable like Ziggy come to terms with science like this:

                                                                          http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/11/e1501923.full

                                                                          Fuckwits like Ziggy and Trump should be ignored. We need to decarbonize now.

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          This video is a recent archeological examination by an international team on the disappearance of the Vikings from Greenland, to solve why they suddenly were gone when a visitor arrived, still with domestic livestock running wild.

                                                                          The dumbsquat Ziggy Piggy jumps on doubt and his pants burnt off nothing left to pull down on the Emperor of dung slinging … the Vikings were ruined by Religion and Politics:

                                                                          “The Lost Vikings”; 52:46; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea0iVLWTtg4

                                                                          Carbon-dioxide in the Pleistocene didn’t lead temperature, that only began in the late Holocene, when you jump CO2 100-ppm in 100-years it exceeds natural oceanic biochemistry so far we’re acidifying the oceans faster than a mass extinction:

                                                                          “The rate of acidification is 10-times faster or more than anything we have seen for the past 50-million years and perhaps over the last 300-million years.”.

                                                                          ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture by Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; 14:30 in CO2 vertical maps; https://www.youtube.com
                                                                          /watch?v=etFob9Wy45E

                                                                          That’s not possible if CO2 isn’t leading temperature dumbbell, Ziggy Piggy can’t pass an oceanography test and is here acting like a fkn know-it-all and doesn’t know squat about anything he-she or bot posts.

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          My apologies. I usually read or watch all the material presented. Wanted to treat your material likewise and… promptly forgot about it.
                                                                          However, I just did.
                                                                          I am sure you wanted to prove to me that it was never warmer on the planet. I am not 100% sure that you also meant to show that CO2 drives the global temperature. Then you sent me something that proves the exact opposite. Did it just escape you in the first video that the narrator mentioned “sometimes it appears that the temperature is ahead”? Considering how the graph ends, I am sure the video is aimed at the super un-informed. All of a sudden it shows the CO2 line shoot up through the roof. The famous hockey stick! Did you not wonder why the temperature line was missing? Let me give you a hint… The temperature did not follow!
                                                                          Once again I had to put aside the following presentations, I needed to turn down the volume while being needed for something else. Sorry.
                                                                          However, I did not need to listen or read it all again. I recognized the faces of Tim Ball, Alfred Soo and Ian Clark. They are well known for their work, proving that CO2 always follows the rise of temperature!
                                                                          Sorry, buddy, Your videos show exactly the opposite of what you wanted me to learn.
                                                                          Seeing that you are as ill informed as you are, let me add another little tidbit. There is nothing to be alarmed about seeing the CO2 level increase to 300ppm. The optimum greenhouse level is a little over 1000ppm. In the past, the amount of Co2 exceeded many times 3000ppm. There was nothing dangerous about it. And it occurred both while we enjoyed dinosaurs and tropical climates and also while the planet was covered in ice.

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          @disqus_8e3O1FV1Wq:disqus … states a few big turds nothing new, the first is this one, “They are well known for their work, proving that CO2 always follows the rise of temperature!”, and that’s only true before the Steam Age and never true for the Miocene, Pliocene and Pleistocene WHEN THE PLANET COOLS CO2 LEADS TEMPERATURE.

                                                                          Did you know enough geologic history to not pull your pants down for us all?

                                                                          Didn’t you know the Miocene was warmer CO2 higher than the Pliocene likewise CO2 higher temps warmer for the Pliocene and rock erosion-weathering removed the CO2mainly the rising Himalaya and the planet kept cooling, there was no polar ice during these epochs, look it up dumbbell, in any textbook.

                                                                          The next gross dufusness is, “There is nothing to be alarmed about seeing the CO2 level increase to
                                                                          300ppm. The optimum greenhouse level is a little over 1000ppm.”; oh sure, another dumbbell ring-a-ding rope-a-dope, the rate-of-change is what matters to life on planet earth not the absolute number CO2 reaches.

                                                                          The planet warmed 1C/1.8F during the Altithermal or mid-Holocene warming from an orbital variation and CO2 went from 255 to about 270-ppm, this 8,000-4,000-years ago and coincidentally the Sahara dries out during this time from its 20,000-year cycle, eh?

                                                                          We’ve raised global ocean temperatures about 1.7C/3.1F and it’s the heat-sink for the planet absorbing 93% of the excess heat, and the trauma lies ahead …

                                                                          When the Pleistocene ice-age happened from Milankovich cycles after the Isthmus of Panama closed after the Southern Ocean opened up, CO2 varied from 180-280ppm textbook numbers = 100-ppm and took about 100,000-years to do it since the change from 41,000-year cycles about 1.5My ago.

                                                                          So the maximum CO2 ever reached in the past 1.5-million years was 305±5-ppm we hit that in 1916 and flew on by adding 100-ppm since then, an entire variation for an ice-age in 100/100,000 = 1/1000th the time.

                                                                          Well that might be fine on a desert planet but we have oceans full of sea-life using calcium-carbonate for their shells, they do this chemically extracting aragonite in the end for their skeletons and exoskeletons and to do this takes a time-consuming interaction with the atmosphere in a constant, intimate, chemical bond.

                                                                          The other thing you learn if taking oceanography is that a global value of 7.9 pH is the you-die point for all these creatures.

                                                                          We’re barely at 8.1 anymore and pre-industrial was 8.2 or 30% less acidic than today, it’s a logarithmic scale not linear of hydrogen ions in the water Antarctic pteropods show acid etching and damage worse than ever seen.

                                                                          Well these plankton never experienced a 1/3 change in pH in their evolutionary paths over millions of years so they are dutifully dying off in large numbers the phytoplankton critical to all sea-life.

                                                                          That’s a main problem with this, is that the food-chain in the oceans is based on tiny plankton feeding bigger all the way up to fish we eat if you kill the plankton the big fish starve and they are.

                                                                          Within 60-years all Alaskan water will be at or below the aragonite saturation point, that’s the “acidic” chemical reaction to study affecting plankton and even people drinking acidic water have health problems so it’s universal to our lives as well.

                                                                          Ever eat King Crab? Gone in 60-years bubba’, enjoy while you can, isn’t that the mantra by Team Oligarch, “Let them eat cakes!” ?L?

                                                                          “Using An Environmental Intelligence Framework to Evaluate the Impacts of Ocean Acidification in the Arctic”; ARCUS D.C. Arctic Research Seminar Series – 31 March 2016; 55:32; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kq7I3X5SY

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          So what’s your point? You sent information which proves exactly the opposite of your intent… Now you wish to cover up with insults, foul language and information which is irrelevant (incorrect?)?
                                                                          However, I am always interested to learn. Since you do have the time, why not, for starters, debunk Patrick Moore’s standard lecture. I had provided the link earlier, however, here it is again. It is embedded towards the end of the text.
                                                                          https://gseine.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/end-self-censorship-on-the-carbon-dioxide-debate/
                                                                          You also made a point that I should be concerned about the rate of change. Let me see, sea level rise has been unchanged at about 3mm pr. year. Global temperature has increased at about the same rate since about 1750. OK, here is your homework. When the layer of ice (about 2km) on top of the Vancouver area (20,000 to 10,000 years ago) started melting and the sea level rose 120 m, how much had the increased amount of CO2 (anthropogenic or otherwise) have to do with it? Or was there no additional CO2?
                                                                          You also left a previous question unanswered… When the CO2 line flew up at the end of the graph (the hockey stick) why did the temperature not follow as predicted by the computer module?

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          @Ziggy Eckardt the point is you state lies, obfuscations, totally made up crap that is disgustingly false.

                                                                          What matters is we acidify the oceans 10-times faster than an extinction event and continue to burn shit for electrons due to political oppression.

                                                                          That’s the point, to end the Steam Age for electrons, most power on the grid is for thermal end-uses 80% !! … remove that by using solar-thermal HVAC and you just reduced grid demand 80%.

                                                                          The heat-transfer physics are very clear, using steam takes 2-Joules to put 1-watt on the wire the Joules are waste-heat heating the planet, they “get rid” of it using heat-exchangers and heat the air or a water mass with it to condense the steam.

                                                                          That’s another point here, to state the physics, my textbook of physics for engineers has as the example of proving steam is 40% efficient max used a nuke to do the math.

                                                                          Time to settle for solar-panels and windmills, solar-thermal collectors to storage and use that not burning shit and more shit until there’s shit everywhere, soot, smoke, chemical pollution burn more shit, burn plastics and burn TAR SANDS the last straw on that shit.

                                                                          The so-called “hockey stick” is just a graph to-scale, that’s it folks and what you see has never happened before in earth’s history.

                                                                          The last time anything close happened the heating lasted 200,000-years to return to the CO2 value where it started, 1/4th of emissions remain over 10,000-years.

                                                                          This is the story on that geologic past complete with citations on the graphs for those so inclined:

                                                                          “Global Warming 56 Million Years Ago: What it Means for Us”; Dr. Scott Wing, Smithsonian Museum of Nat’ History; 1:44:14; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81Zb0pJa3Hg
                                                                          [Temp chart duration: Solomon et al., 2009, PNAS]

                                                                        • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                          “Ziggy… you state lies…” How would you know? You are obviously clueless! Why do you not respond or answer my questions? Or, just debunk Patrick Moore. That would prove something…

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          Why is this person so sure about what I’m doing when I’m not doing that? Isn’t that a strawman argument? … “I am sure you wanted to prove to me that it was never warmer on the planet.”

                                                                          The only left to prove is to people trying not to solve the issues, our rate-of-change on carbon-dioxide is so beyond natural oceanic biochemistry they are acidifying 10-times faster than extinction events, let that sink in.

                                                                          The coercive power of carbonic acid in the oceans affects all sea-life dependent on calcium-carbonate or aragonite and the saturation point where it starts to dissolve, that affects shell formation and pteropods are already dying from this a major food for salmon.

                                                                          Talking about carbon-dioxide like it’s a number is stupid, it won’t pass a test in school on oceanography, get it dumbbell? What matters is the aragonite saturation point or you don’t get oysters:

                                                                          “The rate of acidification is 10-times faster or more than anything we have seen for the past 50-million years and perhaps over the last 300-million years.”.

                                                                          ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture by Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; 14:30 in CO2 vertical maps; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFob9Wy45E

                                                                          So go ahead and be a stupid anti-science troll here Ziggy Piggy, the Dalai Lama is found by a scientific protocol proven over centuries and his soul takes 2-5 years in Purgatory, how you doing dumbbell, got a few thousand years there going by messing with disrespecting the planet?

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Sometime is necseary to reiterate the stance in debate as some like to get it muddy. I am against man made global warming theory and see it as a hoax that was developed for a specific reason to control and reduce mans footprint on the earth, literarly…….And no I will not apologize for my speeling.

                                                                          It is however thr ongoing issue of the deadly Ctrails over the populations that need to be addressed and stopped if we are to breathe clean air ever again!

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Al Gore showed a graph of CO2 correlating with temp. rises from Vostok ice core data. Only thing the liar didn’t point out was CO2 was 800 years behind temp. rises. Rising temps cause rising CO2, as the warming oceans outgas. Gore is a liar who has made $millions out of this fraud.

                                                                        • timallard

                                                                          Johnpd states what was true for the Pleistocene epoch yet hasn’t been true since the late Holocene because he’s not interested in reality, only parts of the past that support his fantasy.

                                                                          That fantasy is that we jumping carbon-dioxide 100-ppm in 100-years will do nothing because “temperature leads CO2” according to his defective observational acuity in geophysics and heat-transfer …

                                                                          The indelible evidence that this rate-of-change is grossly too-much-too-fast is that the oceans are acidifying 10-times faster than a mass extinction, pH is easy to measure and must be done for many industrial processes, eh?

                                                                          This isn’t grade school, “The rate of acidification is 10-times faster or more than anything we have seen for the past 50-million years and perhaps over the last 300-million years.”:

                                                                          ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture by Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; 14:30 in CO2 vertical maps; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFob9Wy45E

                                                                          100-ppm in 100-years is so beyond the aragonite saturation point to be lethal within another century to most commercial fisheries as it kills larval stages of 1/3 of sea-life along with a warming ocean to where the Great Barrier Reef can now be killed by about 1-month of oceans at 30C/86F or above, acidification is consider to make this more critical:

                                                                          “Once they expel all the algae, they die.”, a long-time observer of the reefs states, “There’s nothing at all from stopping one event, one El Niño from wiping out the Great Barrier Reef in a month.”; from “El Niño exacerbates Great Barrier Reef bleaching; Financial Times – World”; 3:39; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0k1xDo4VFA&t=16s

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          the oceans are being silently polluted with same Ctrail campaigns we on land are!. To think that aluminum, strontium, barrium, arsenic, mercury and lithium wont have effect on oceans is ludicrus . Stop IGNORING the Ctrails they are killing all forms of life!

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          You repeat the warmist alarmist lies:
                                                                          The seas are Alkaline, not acid so they can’t be acidifying till they pass the neutral point, which they are nowhere near.
                                                                          Above 400 ppmv CO2 has a logarithmically decreasing effect on temperatures & zero effect on climate. It becomes insignificant.
                                                                          I recommend Prof. Ian Plimers book to you: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science.
                                                                          I also recommend Dr. Tim Ball’s book: The deliberate Corruption of Climate Science drtimball.com
                                                                          Also try http://www.c3headlines.com
                                                                          Click on “Quotes” to find the agenda of the 1%s pushing this scam:
                                                                          95% DEPOPULATION, DE-INDUSTRIALISATION & ONE WORLD TOTALITARIAN GOVT. Also many good articles & graphs.
                                                                          All this is now irrelevant: Trump just wiped the Whitehouse Climate Change page: the con game is dead. HAHAHAHA.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          thank You John! I fully agree with Your statement! We have been lied to for far to long about this hoax! Hope that the responsible for it get dragged to the nation courts and be dealt with!

                                                                      • Kikr

                                                                        Johnpd, thank you for BAM, in Ena’s face! Do some simple research people, it’s all about making money for the dolts in the Democratic party. How Nazi of Gore and Lynch to tell the public they must be punished for not agreeing with them. I think after these past few months, I see just how sleezy Democrats are.

                                                                        • http://www.womanology.co.uk/ Andy Bodle

                                                                          NB, people: make sure you do your simple research on Breitbart or some fascist nutjob conspiracy theory site, otherwise you might not get the result Kikr predicts.

                                                                        • Kikr

                                                                          Blah blah blah with your whiny boring blah!

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          We get that anything beyond six letter and two syllables is a bit beyond the ken of the troglodrumpfs. Stick with FAUX, NewsMux and Breitfart. About your speed.

                                                                        • Kikr

                                                                          Obama and Al Gore were both involved in founding the Chicago Carbon Exchange. Gore also owns a carbon-credit investment firm; Generation Investment Management.

                                                                          Global warming is an excuse for depopulation and global government published by the Club of Rome in 1972 in “The First Global Revolution” and in “Limits to Growth”. Al Gore is a Club of Rome member. Edmond de Rothschild describes the UN’s environment plan as a means of fulfilling Cecil Rhodes’ last will; global control by the British Empire, and global British race and c ulture, eliminating “Lilliputians of lesser race” 9Abeldanger links)

                                                                          green-agenda.com.

                                                                          naturalclimatechange.us

                                                                          Club of Rome members were chosen from the Committee of 300, the “Olympians”.

                                                                          Colorado environmentalist and CPA George Hunt attended the 1987 4th World Wilderness Conference and 1992 UNCED Conference and published his videos and audio recordings years ago. Abeldanger has great articles on the AGW NWO Rothschild banker’s scam:

                                                                          “How Edmund de Rothschild Managed to Let 179 Governments Pay Him for Grasping Up to 30% of the Earth

                                                                          http://www.abeldanger.net/2011

                                                                          British Imperium – Racism – Exhaling CO2 as Death Warrant – Moving to the Carbon Economy – Global Lilliputians

                                                                          Source: Public service message brought to you by your favorite Abel Danger Global Team of “Lilliputians”:

                                                                          September 11-18, 1987, in Denver and

                                                                          Estes Park, Colorado – George Hunt: UNCED Earth Summit 1992 (population

                                                                          reduction, bank scams) – Transcript and Videos

                                                                          http://www.abeldanger.net/2010

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          Save your breath. The vast majority of people including scientist have no financial stake. On the other hand, the robust whacko conspiracy folks make money every time one of you clicks.

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          And I hear Svante Arrhenius is heavily invested in carbon credits too.

                                                                        • Timothy C O’Keefe

                                                                          So are you saying that this news report is false?

                                                                        • Matt in the Box

                                                                          Abso-fucking-lutely.

                                                                          This article is such a big piece of shit it is perturbing Earth’s orbit.

                                                                        • Rob.

                                                                          No! Its telling us what most of us with an interest and intelect what we already knew!

                                                                        • Plinda Joblonski

                                                                          YES! As fake as the $3.00 bill you got in your change from the guy selling Rolex watches on the street corner for $7.00.

                                                                        • Kikr

                                                                          You’re partially right about democrats: Obama and Al Gore were both involved in founding the Chicago Carbon Exchange. Gore also owns a carbon-credit investment firm; Generation Investment Management.

                                                                          Global warming is an excuse for depopulation and global government published by the Club of Rome in 1972 in “The First Global Revolution” and in “Limits to Growth”. Al Gore is a Club of Rome member. Edmond de Rothschild describes the UN’s environment plan as a means of fulfilling Cecil Rhodes’ last will; global control by the British Empire, and global British race and c ulture, eliminating “Lilliputians of lesser race” 9Abeldanger links)

                                                                          green-agenda.com.

                                                                          naturalclimatechange.us

                                                                          Club of Rome members were chosen from the Committee of 300, the “Olympians”.

                                                                          Colorado environmentalist and CPA George Hunt attended the 1987 4th World Wilderness Conference and 1992 UNCED Conference and published his videos and audio recordings years ago. Abeldanger has great articles on the AGW NWO Rothschild banker’s scam:

                                                                          “How Edmund de Rothschild Managed to Let 179 Governments Pay Him for Grasping Up to 30% of the Earth

                                                                          http://www.abeldanger.net/2011

                                                                          British Imperium – Racism – Exhaling CO2 as Death Warrant – Moving to the Carbon Economy – Global Lilliputians

                                                                          Source: Public service message brought to you by your favorite Abel Danger Global Team of “Lilliputians”:

                                                                          September 11-18, 1987, in Denver and

                                                                          Estes Park, Colorado – George Hunt: UNCED Earth Summit 1992 (population

                                                                          reduction, bank scams) – Transcript and Videos

                                                                          http://www.abeldanger.net/2010

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          Excuse for depopulation? And what is your excuse for thinking that humans should be able to completely saturate all biomes???

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          IF the intentional poisoning of the atmosphere brought to the halt, we might have a chance to live! more to the point, our children might!
                                                                          As to Your view, You seem to only see the proverbial Carbon emissions and totally chose to ignore
                                                                          UN agenda program to pollute the air and destroy food basket world wide. Can you say UN (man made)?
                                                                          For some reason ,YOU dont seem to get it YET, but you might soon. Soon but to late!

                                                                          By the same token, if California, for example has adequate percipitation in form of rain and snow, it can INCREASE the food production accordingly. Wast areas of the world are still un populated and keept for future play grounds of the elite, which excludes You and me….

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          Makes ones’ head ache, doesn’t it, Andy?

                                                                        • Mollie Norris

                                                                          You’re partially right about democrats: Obama and Al Gore were both involved in founding the Chicago Carbon Exchange. Gore also owns a carbon-credit investment firm; Generation Investment Management.

                                                                          Global warming is an excuse for depopulation and global government published by the Club of Rome in 1972 in “The First Global Revolution” and in “Limits to Growth”. Al Gore is a Club of Rome member. Edmond de Rothschild describes the UN’s environment plan as a means of fulfilling Cecil Rhodes’ last will; global control by the British Empire, and global British race and culture, eliminating “Lilliputians of lesser race” (Abeldanger links)
                                                                          green-agenda.com.
                                                                          naturalclimatechange.us
                                                                          Club of Rome members were chosen from the Committee of 300, the “Olympians”.

                                                                          Colorado environmentalist and CPA George Hunt attended the 1987 4th World Wilderness Conference and 1992 UNCED Conference and published his videos and audio recordings years ago. Abeldanger has great articles on the AGW NWO Rothschild banker’s scam:

                                                                          “How Edmund de Rothschild Managed to Let 179 Governments Pay Him for Grasping Up to 30% of the Earth
                                                                          http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/07/edmund-de-rothschild-world-wilderness.html

                                                                          British Imperium – Racism – Exhaling CO2 as Death Warrant – Moving to the Carbon Economy – Global Lilliputians
                                                                          Source: Public service message brought to you by your favorite Abel Danger Global Team of “Lilliputians”:
                                                                          September 11-18, 1987, in Denver and
                                                                          Estes Park, Colorado – George Hunt: UNCED Earth Summit 1992 (population
                                                                          reduction, bank scams) – Transcript and Videos
                                                                          http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/05/british-imperium-racism-exhale-co2-is.html

                                                                        • Kikr

                                                                          Great information Mollie, thanks!

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          You guys are the epitome of ignorance—the thing I cannot figure out is why ignorant people would ever want to pretend that they AREN’T ignorant. I dunno, it all seems very dishonest to ME.
                                                                          Earth is a finite system. Earth is shared by over 8 million other species. I KNOW YOU LIVE IN A TINY WORLD THAT IS YOUR BRAIN BUT THE REAL WORLD IS MUCH MORE INTERESTING and full of complexity that your simple minds cannot comprehend. If only your parents aborted you idiots the world might have a chance but I fear the world is doomed do to being saturated with not only Homo sapiens but Super Duper Homo Stupideous.
                                                                          Discard your beliefs and discover EMPIRICISM you wretched, basic animals.

                                                                        • Kenneth Breitling

                                                                          Ena, if anyone should have been aborted, it is you! In all of your comments there is nothing (absolutely nothing) of substance. I only read your high school platitudes and grammar school name calling. Then you proceed to accuse people of only getting their info from CBS and Trinity Broadcasting only to follow that with more name calling. There are only two words in all you have said that are relevant to anything: Planning and Causation, yet you do not follow that up with substance. You are truly the inept liberal. A snowflake who does not bring any intelligence to the debate. I have stated that a paper is currently being peer reviewed that shows faulty math was found to be used. The paper also shows that not only improper assumptions were made, but ridiculous assumptions.

                                                                          But I refuse to give you my source information. Go get it yourself, it’s there to be found! Shit how hard is it to Google “Peer review refuting man-made global climate change” or some other such search? Also, several others in this thread, such as Molly, have put forth their premise and explanations for their argument w/ source information, yet you still continue to throw out your childish platitudes and name calling and not refute any particular part of what they are bringing to the debate! You are arguing something you know absolutely nothing about! It seems to me you like to argue for the sake of arguing. I feel sorry for those around you who have to endure you! BTW – what part of depopulating the planet does not also fall under Planning and Causation from that Planning?

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          I cannot stand belligerent ignorance. If you are ignorant, that is fine, I will help you but if you are both ignorant and a preacher of ignorance well then I have no sympathy because your brain has become a danger to Homo sapiens and all other forms of life on Earth.
                                                                          I follow one thing above all else: REASON. Reason is the path to real information, if you disagree with me than you disagree with REASON and if you aren’t reason-powered than you must be belief-powered.
                                                                          So Mr. Kenneth Breitling, please inform the rest of us why your thinking is superior to science? “I refuse to give my sources of information” is a pretty ignorant statement from someone entering an intellectual debate.

                                                                        • Sugarsail1

                                                                          then stop being ignorant and belligerent and you’ll be better.

                                                                        • Susan Perreira

                                                                          Such a sad commentary. Devoid of reasoning.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          State your case, are you for or against the global warming joke!

                                                                          and get to the point!

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          I have studied weather and climate under a University Ph.D., and I can tell you that CO2 is a heat retaining molecule. Since our civilization outputs VAST amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere that is not naturally occurring and is far outside this naturally occurring “background rate” of CO2 release, the atmosphere and the oceans are warming at an alarming rate. Because CO2 has a life expectancy of 150 years, you might see that tackling the carbon problem NOW is essential to limiting future warming. This is science, not opinion.

                                                                        • Sugarsail1

                                                                          Science isn’t about “telling” anyone what is truth (that’s religion), it’s about presenting a falsifiable hypothesis that we can test empirically. Unfortunately, the anthropogenic global warming theory is not a falsifiable hypothesis, and thus, according to Karl Popper at least, it’s junk science. What I mean by falsifiable is not that it’s false or true, but since we have no way to empirically demonstrate what the earth’s climate would behave like if there were no humans we can’t say what part of climate change is attributable to humans. This is why climatologists have been forced to over rely on computer modeling, which is by it’s very nature non-empirical but virtual and has been extraordinarily incorrect so far. Additionally, predictions are by their nature non empirical since the future isn’t here yet. What’s more, is presumptions that a warming earth, more rich in CO2 will necessarily be detrimental have been already refuted by the geological record, it is much more likely to be beneficial to all life for the most part.

                                                                        • Sugarsail1

                                                                          You are projecting. You are appealing to the authority of “science” instead of doing actual science. I am scientist in both degree and career, not a poser like you that took an environmental studies class in close proximity to a PhD (LOL, big deal). You are correct at least that science is empirical, however it is also amoral and thus your value judgements and moralities implicitly contained within your beliefs are not scientific, such as the assumption the world is over populated. I doubt you or anyone is qualified to decide what the “right” number of humans are on the planet. Malthus cried overpopulation back in the 18th century and said the world could not sustain more than about a half-billion humans. Ehrlich wrote the famous “Population Bomb” in 1968 describing how there would be mass starvation in the 70s and 80s. People that understand science embrace skepticism (not dogma) and know science is not predictive (although a well-tested model can sometimes be utilized predicatively) but indeed empirical, amoral and falsifiable. Those with some historical perspective on how far back these sorts of apocalyptic predictions go and how often they’ve been wrong, are very inclined to doubt because they are NOT ignorant at all, they are, in fact, paying close attention to your very unscientific behavior.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          blah blah blah IGNORANT!

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Mollie posts great info, & you post childish, idiotic nonsense.
                                                                          Interesting contrast, don’t you think? Tosser.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          If you think that is “great information” let me send you to the post about how the [46 year record low] US unemployment is REALLY higher than during the Great Depression. You folks have a lot in common.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Great info. Thanks, Mollie. 🙂

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          An excuse for depopulation??? Not everyone believes that Armagedddon is the proper solution to human overpopulation. ITS CALLED PLANNING YOU F****** NUMBS***.
                                                                          AN INTELLIGENT ORGANISM PLANS, DUMBFU*** LIKE YOU GUYS PRAY AND HOPE FOR THE BEST!!! You are the devolution of Homo sapiens, but you can’t help it anymore than your parents couldn’t help but be dumb as **** too.

                                                                        • Mollie Norris

                                                                          Read Agenda 21 and Agenda 20/30 and Codex Alimentarius. Read research on the non-food GMO corn eugenicist Bill Gates is pushing to starve and poison people in developing nations. Butterfly scientist and racial eugenicist Paul Ehlich has lied about the effect of increasing population for over half a century. The standard of living has increased with population for hundreds of years. Ehrick’s lies are 180 degrees from the truth regarding population and resource scarcity. He lost one $25,000 bet that any one of his predictions would be realized, and turned down a second chance on the bet. Physicist Robert Dubrin has great info on the facts in “Merchants of Despair”. Enjoy your hate and lies and support for the Illuminati-Nazi Ahnererbe Death Cult. When you’ve sold your soul to satan you have nothing to lose, but the millions of us who know God outside of space and time will continue to pray for you. Unfortunately, DKE is incurable, though, but those of us with IQs > 99.99% of the population deal with it the same way we avoid stepping in dogsh*t.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          And thats why are we still seeing the Ctrails being dumped over BC Canada, daily!!!!!!
                                                                          it is on the end of the day that those huge aircraft return to the stateside in WA. it is interrestig to see them not having any trails behind them on the home trip……….

                                                                        • Mollie Norris

                                                                          We’re allowed to inhale the poisons here in Santa Barbara, but only “conspiracy theorists” are permitted to see the chemtrails. I can see both those white tankers and also commercial aircraft on the flight path north from LAX, and, as a pilot, have some ability to judge altitude (important, due to temp variation), and pretending chemtrails and contrails are similar is insanity – official denial of chemtrails has been as successful as the “fake news” psyop.

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          He did not lie about the dangers of population growth, but he did not foresee the increases in food productivity that would come to pass. However, he is correct that human population is the critical issue of biosphere health.
                                                                          BTW, anyone who talks about God, Satan, and death cults surely has no ability to reason clearly, and certainly near the bottom of the IQ pile.

                                                                        • Mollie Norris

                                                                          ” near the bottom of the IQ pile” – very superior/gifted range – possibly you have DKE. Paul Ehrich lied about the correlation between increased population and higher standard of living based on GDP, based on data posted by UC Berkeley Econ Professor J. Bradford DeLong and UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs, Population Division. Ehrlich’s career as an entomologist studying one species of butterfly hasn’t included either the education or knowledge required to evaluate the impact of increased efficiency due to specialization, increased knowledge, infrastructure development or technology that’s characteristic of human populations. Your problems and Ehlich’s are based on the use of emotional decision-making processes to solve quantitative problems that require rational thinking.

                                                                        • Sugarsail1

                                                                          that’s the problem, is these expert predictors never have enough info to predict anything with any accuracy so why put faith in them and treat them as prophets of doom? That’s why many doubt..and it’s for darn good reason, so you should respect an listen to them, they might even know more than you.

                                                                          Anyone that thinks the sea levels will rise in an apocalyptic flood due to their sins of burning fossil fuels unless they repent by buying a Prius while demonizing those that disagree as heretics (deniers) surely does not recognize their own religious instincts are running amok and although they may be much more intelligent than one who talks about God and Satan, they grossly lack self-awareness which makes their intelligence wasted.

                                                                        • Sugarsail1

                                                                          Indeed but an intelligent organism plans intelligently, not hysterically based on apocalyptic projections.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          No, dumbass, it’s all about SCIENCE.

                                                                          The NAZI would be TRUMP – by definition AND by his staff.

                                                                        • Mrmossyone

                                                                          You know nothing of fascism or the NAZI party. It certainly wouldn’t be Trump. Do you think you could post one thing of substance instead of constantly calling names. The petition with 31,000 scientist signatures has been around for several years and certainly isn’t fake. The preeminent climatologist on the planet from MIT says AGW is a money making scam and is disgusted by “scientists” who are towing the line to receive grant money. You are a flat earther.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          And you are a fool.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          YOU got that right!!!!!

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          Do some simple research? DO SOME SIMPLE RESEARCH? How about YOU do some simple research!
                                                                          I’ve studied climate science at University! Where did you get your information??? CBN News??? Trinity Broadcasting???
                                                                          THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING VERY RAPIDLY WHILE YOU DUMBF***S SIT HERE AND GO ABOUT BELIEVING WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.
                                                                          Well I’m sorry little minds but that’s not how the Universe works.
                                                                          The Universe operates upon factors of CAUSATION. What I’m wondering is what causes perfectly capable Homo sapiens to be incapable of processing reality. THATS WHAT I WANNA KNOW

                                                                        • Susan Perreira

                                                                          Some of us people have researched global warming, and completely disagree with it. We’ve formed an opinion that denies its existence.

                                                                        • Paulmatthew22

                                                                          Climate change is real. Global warming is CRAP

                                                                        • Susan Perreira

                                                                          I do not understand the difference between climate change and global warming. I thought they were one and the same.

                                                                          The left just changes the name from global warming to climate change when their cause wasn’t helped while the weather was cooling.

                                                                          The world is currently in a warming trend. I’ve heard this….I’ve not researched it.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          I clear answer! thank you

                                                                        • Paulmatthew22

                                                                          Just let me know when the Ice Age is coming DIPSHYTE

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          Why don’t you do some simple research? Here, let me help you:
                                                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#In_Earth.27s_atmosphere

                                                                        • Sugarsail1

                                                                          I wish this was merely political..it’s sadly more psychological.

                                                                      • zzz05

                                                                        Your (there’s been none for ~ 19 years) sound bite has been retired lately. You must have missed the Thought Leaders’ downloads.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          go to http://www.wattsupwiththat.com & put in search box: No Warming 18 Years 8 Months.
                                                                          Many great articles on this fine site. 29 million views?

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          In fact, the diagram slightly further down the page, https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/clip_image012.jpg
                                                                          refutes the whole “No Warming 18 Years 8 Months” thing, by showing that it’s just one exceptionally hot year 1998 on top of a constant slope. Truncating the graph before 1998 as he starts with https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/clip_image0021.jpg naturally obscures the fact that nothing has changed.
                                                                          Statisticians know well the lack of reality of any “trend” which requires that one end of it be fixed on a single unchangeable point, and common sense would agree.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Your gibberish makes zero sense.
                                                                          The UAH graph shown for 444 months Dec’78 to Nov 2015 is NOT truncated at 1998, & as described in the article: “shows global warming at an unalarming rate of just 1.14 Deg C per century.”
                                                                          Now if you want to wet your bed over 1 Deg C over a century = 100 years, then I suggest you buy a potty.

                                                                        • zzz05

                                                                          So you have given up on the “No Warming 18 Years 8 Months.” you were talking about 3 days ago, and have now moved on to “unalarming rate of just 1.14 Deg C per century.”
                                                                          Slow progress.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          You are a retard. The two statements are not mutually excusive, shit for brains. We had warming 1910-1940, cooling 1940-1970s, when the newspapers were panicing about the coming ice age, then warming 1970s to 1998. There’s been no warming since, apart from completely natural El Nino events. which are natural volcanic activity warming the Pacific Ocean. You know nothing.

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          NO YOU ARE THE RETARD JOHNPD
                                                                          You want so badly to be right, but you have no idea HOW TO BE right.
                                                                          You need to begin with the facts that all scientists understand, BUT THAT IS NOT HOW YOU BEGAN–you began with the conspiracy theorists because YOU ARE A GAMBLER JOHNPD.
                                                                          You don’t want the easy win that comes from sticking with the experts.
                                                                          OH NO, JOHNPD GOES BIG.
                                                                          John wants to bet the HOUSE AND THE FARM on THE F***ING MINORITY REPORT in hopes of celebrating A HUGE UPSET.
                                                                          But this is not a f***ing ballgame Mr. Johnpd this is reality. Why don’t you look into it….

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          STOP THE PRESSES
                                                                          Attention world, JOHNPD announces El Nino is caused by underwater VOLCANIC ACTIVITY!!!!
                                                                          I can see the headlines now——
                                                                          “JOHNPD revolutionizes oceanographic and climate sciences with first telepathic scientific discovery”
                                                                          Oh wait, JOHNPD doesn’t know what TF he is talking about, disregard. Turns out someone commenting strongly on the subject of climate change has never taken a SINGLE weather & climate class IN HIS LIFE.

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          You are correct!!!! Also if it were really a warming trend Canada would become a food basket of the world, but sadly not!
                                                                          So stop blocking the sun and we might get to grow clean food without the filthy monsanto murderers influence….

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Well said. 🙂

                                                                        • Plinda Joblonski

                                                                          go to https://wottsupwiththat.com/ for the REAL story.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          wottsup? complete rubbish.

                                                                      • TheRuleOfLaw

                                                                        I might also add that one small burp from an active Volcano emits more CO2 than humans have in the history of mankind and more than humanity can or will for the next 10 million years. It seems that almost all scientists, including those who are paid to preach on climate change can agree on this fact.

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Precisely. I’ve read geology prof. Ian Plimer’s great book: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science.
                                                                          The attack on CO2, the basis of life, is aimed at de-industrialisation & depopulation.
                                                                          The profoundly anti-human “environmentalist” ( = Communist) agenda is well laid out in Robert Zubrin’s book: Merchants of Despair.
                                                                          Sub titles: Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism.
                                                                          This fine book reveals the current “environmentalist” movement is a continuation of Brit (Rothschild) Empire’s attempt at World Hegemony. The Malthusian & Darwinian philosophies at work are the same as led to the Empire caused famines in Ireland & India.
                                                                          Zubrin, a PhD nuclear engineer with 9 patents to his name or pending, also reveals how safe & clean nuclear energy is being suppressed.

                                                                        • Dano2

                                                                          “great”

                                                                          Best,

                                                                          D

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          Thank You! A voice of common sense you are!

                                                                      • Ena Kana

                                                                        “ANYONE WHO HAS DONE THEIR READING” Hey JOHNPD what the **** have you been reading???? The Bible?? The Koran??? Where do you get YOUR climate science education from??
                                                                        Let me guess — From news clips of famous people’s quotes????
                                                                        GUESS WHAT
                                                                        Science begins with OBSERVATION OF REALITY
                                                                        WHERE DO THE LESSER MINDS LIKE YOU BEGIN??
                                                                        HERE—->”LETS SEE, HOW DO I FEEEEEEEL ABOUT THIS???”
                                                                        Well guess what Homo sapiens you are a fu***** embarrassment to your species; There were Europeans who lived 150 years ago who understood the Universe better than you do, why don’t you go put on some TV and stay out of the intellectual debates because YOU’RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF RIGHT

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          Book: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science. Prof. Ian Plimer. 2300 refs to peer-reviewed papers.
                                                                          Book: The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science, by drtimball.com
                                                                          Book: Slaying the Sky Dragon.
                                                                          Book: Climate: The facts http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
                                                                          Read articles on http://www.climatedepot.com
                                                                          Educate yourself.

                                                                        • Ena Kana

                                                                          I’m at University and have been at University for years. Why don’t YOU go and get educated….

                                                                        • Johnpd

                                                                          You come across as a ranting angry & ignorant child.
                                                                          I’m 63, always reading, always educating myself.
                                                                          I’m sure as sh1te not dumb enough to fall for the climate scam, which was the first nonsense Trump squished. 🙂

                                                                    • Grog618

                                                                      DNA is science also, but liberals argue that when it comes to the transgender hooey! You’re right, “those who question science are in the REALLY DUMB CROWD.”

                                                                    • Roxene Kimes

                                                                      millennials have been indoctrinated to believe anything and they think anything the media tosses out there is “science”. When morality is gone gullibility is all that remains!

                                                                    • Pablo Nicolas Fernandez

                                                                      lol scientists can be bought too sweety, what is dumb is believing everything you are told without questioning it

                                                                    • Rebecca Rosenjack

                                                                      Yup and science says its a hoax. Science doesn’t lie

                                                                    • Steve Vise

                                                                      A true scientist ALWAYS “questions science”.

                                                                    • Jeff Nagengast

                                                                      Science is the scientific method. According to the scientific method, climate change is still at the hypothesis level. Their predictions have been incorrect time after time. It will never become a theory until it has repeatable predictions. But the predictions are almost always completely off base.

                                                                    • Bob McMahan

                                                                      Ena, take a gander at the ice age, when much of the US was covered by a thick sheet of ice. That was before people came around. Most of that ice eventually melted, without any intervention from people.

                                                                      • anthony divjak

                                                                        Very good and valid point, no university degree needed for logic!!!1

                                                                    • 999Greg

                                                                      The REALLY DUMB CROWD is made up of those who do not realize that Science is *always* questioning/ exploring/ hypothesizing/ testing/ evaluating/ revising.

                                                                      Anyone who claims “the science is settled” or anything like it is just plain bullheadedly wrong.

                                                                    • Pookie Bear

                                                                      Hm. I’m a doctor and I can run circles around and MD or DO who practices allopathic medicine, the same medicine science says is superior with their toxic drugs. Sit down and be quiet. The dumb person is you for believing the government who is in bed with science.

                                                                    • Karen Willet

                                                                      But this is about so called scientific results being questioned by scientists, so your comment is really, really dumb.

                                                                    • sam

                                                                      You act if no facts in science has ever been changed. A lot of scientific facts have been proven wrong.

                                                                      • Ena Kana

                                                                        I do not act I speak–listen to the WORDS. I know all about how science works. Just because science understands reality and you do not does not mean that you should stand against science, as if it is dominant male competing for your bitch. Science is the ONE system on earth designed to study reality and uncover what reality is all about. If you eschew science it is only because you were influenced by ignorant people whom you mistakenly looked up to. Think again.

                                                                    • Colin Spencer

                                                                      Ena, “climate change” as you put it, is not science, it is a belief system, based on ever changing hypothetical models. I say ever changing because, so far, none of them have had conclusions which have any remote parallel with historic reality. In fact, the earth may even be heading into a cooling period at present – an observation of a small number of climate scientists in recent times.

                                                                      • Ena Kana

                                                                        Climate science is not science? Perhaps you are confusing climate science with Christian science? Climate science is most definitely a science. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the scientific method of testing empirical data? Observing reality and designing hypothesis to explain phenomena? This at the heart of the meteorological and climatological sciences.
                                                                        These two sciences are based upon PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY.
                                                                        Your opinions, however, fit the definition of BELIEFS, unless you have some evidence that is stronger than an entire field of science? I didn’t think so….

                                                                        • anthony divjak

                                                                          What the hell are you talking about? Do you support the man made warming hoax? Enjoy breathing the Ctrails and the airborne toxins?

                                                                    • Kenneth Breitling

                                                                      Hey dummy, crap in, crap out is not science. What, of the science of “…the world is flat…”, still holds true? Peer review on a paper that refutes the math previously used is ongoing and those who have initially reviewed the paper prior to formal application have concurred that faulty math was used and assumptions were made that have no place in the determination of such long ranging predictions. I’ve spent way too much time digging to just give what I have found away. So I say “…look it up, it’s there…”

                                                                    • mattwm

                                                                      No science, just consensus.

                                                                    • Steve Koch

                                                                      Science is all about questioning!

                                                                    • Mrmossyone

                                                                      Eva are you kidding? The whole point of science is to question science. Any person who says the science is settled certainly isn’t a scientist.

                                                                    • Paulmatthew22

                                                                      It’s called pseudo-science Ena ,,You have been duped ,.PLease tell me you don’t believe EVERYTHING you have been told?,.I knew an Ena once,.She was really stupid ,..Maybe it’s just a name thing?

                                                                    • Johnny Teel

                                                                      Science is about questioning it. That’s how it works. I only takes one to prove a theory, hypotenuse or law wrong. Consensus is not science and science is not consensus.

                                                                    • Sugarsail1

                                                                      science is empirical not predictive….you are attributing the qualities of a prophet to science and then appealing to it dogmatically as an authority…you are behaving religiously.

                                                                    • Sugarsail1

                                                                      As far as being in the “dumb” crowd of questioning, you should maybe listen to Oppenheimer in his Life magazine interview way back when, he may have known something about science: “There must be no barriers to freedom of inquiry.
                                                                      There is no place for dogma in science. The scientist is free, and must be free
                                                                      to ask any question, to doubt any assertion, to seek for any evidence, to
                                                                      correct any errors.”

                                                                      Looks like those that behave dogmatically and demonize those that doubt are the ones who are unscientific and in the REALLY DUMB CROWD.

                                                                  • Paula

                                                                    Amen to that and the sports players

                                                                • DJR96

                                                                  Climate change is happening. And it doesn’t matter how or why.

                                                                  The point is that we as humanity have invested heavily into our built environment in the earths environment of the last few centuries.
                                                                  We know that sea levels have been both higher and lower in history. But we do not want to give up what we have built, or have to build more structures at massive expense to protect against sea level rises. So we need to do what ever we can to prevent changes where possible.

                                                                  • CAFM

                                                                    Climate change has always happened–for eons.

                                                                  • Johnpd

                                                                    We can build dams. Holland exists because of dams. No problemo.

                                                                • Howard Brady

                                                                  Is it truly the hottest time in human existence? How then did the Vikings have cattle stamping around Greenland 800 years ago? How were Germans growing olives on the Rhine river 2000 years ago? And what were temperate oak forests doing in the middle of Norway and Sweden 8000 years ago? https://youtu.be/CTAsfUNDIv8

                                                                  • Ed O’Meara

                                                                    Germans never grew olives on the Rhine.

                                                                    • Johnpd

                                                                      Read Prof. Ian Plimer’s book: Heaven and Earth global warming: the missing science.

                                                                      • Matt in the Box

                                                                        Ian Primer lies to influence energy policy in his native Australia where he has financial interests in coal mining companies. He is one hell of a hypocrite after writing a previous book about creationists lying.

                                                                      • anthony divjak

                                                                        Youre corrrect John!!!!!

                                                                  • anthony divjak

                                                                    Aw, youre not suppose to say those things, they get in the way of *real* science hahahhahahahaha

                                                                • Allen L Smith

                                                                  How are YOU going to take the 283 Million Sacred Cattle from India????? You can not whip ISIS , and you think the US will be able to depose of the Scared Cow, another scam in the works,

                                                                • RustyBertrand
                                                                  • Morris

                                                                    Who owns the factcheck website. The Annenburg Foundation. ‘Nuff said.

                                                                    • Heretic2011

                                                                      She might as well have said Snopes or The Onion.

                                                                      • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                        Yes, they are the LEGITIMATE sites. Sorry you think they are liberal – a result of articles being debunked being mostly from RW lie sites such as this. Live with it.

                                                                        • VoicelessDidact

                                                                          No, they’re biased sites owned by the same international bankers set to make money from the carbon tax scam. Pull you head out of your ass.

                                                                        • PissedoffinAZ

                                                                          HAHAHAHA says the conspiracy whacko twit who is incapable of recognizing a fact. Save your breath. In my day, people like you knew your place – the lunatic fringe.

                                                                • RustyBertrand

                                                                  The 30,000 Global Warming Petition Is Easily-Debunked Propaganda http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/02/14/700-club-anchor-touted-global-warming-skeptics/134878

                                                                • Coolfunnyname

                                                                  Good lord… I see that scientific opinion and articles are confusing for you, but sure let’s trust the wall street journal article and one pair of german scientists who published a survey and commented that models are difficult to get 100% accurate. It’s right to question the validity of research, but lets do it in a nonbiased way. What do you make of the actual evidence? Are millions of articles faking it for a few lols? Would NASA and all the meteorology agencies around the world corrupt data for … what reason? I’m sure al gore is smart enough to realise he could make a lot more money destroying the environment than trying to rescue it.

                                                                  Either way, I don’t think climate change will impact the election as much as you seem to suggest with the “before casting your vote” phrase. The issue is electing a pussy grabber with poor business management skills, a history of legal battles, 2 divorces under his belt and tiny hands, or a woman with poor business dealings and questionable use of technology.

                                                                  • Johnpd

                                                                    http://www.drtimball.com
                                                                    Read his book: The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science.

                                                                  • Dan Zorgel

                                                                    Many of the climate models predicted utter catastrophe by now… the planet is changing all agreed… but not to the extent of the global warming fear mongers… it’s about control. Carbon dioxide is a naturally occurring gas and the earth prospers from it. Plants grow bigger when there is an abundance of it. Do an experiment and put some plants in a terrarium and pump in extra CO2 and increased the atmospheric pressure and see what happens. The plants will grow humongous. Why? because they thrive on CO2.

                                                                • Johnpd

                                                                  http://www.petitionproject.org
                                                                  31,000 + scientists, in USA alone, including 9,029 PhDs protest the warming/climate hoax. Click on Qualifications of Signers.

                                                                • Ron

                                                                  Rhode Island was formed by glaciers moving back and forth across it, no more glaciers up there and man had nothing to do with it. The Everglades was formed when water levels were much higher, they receded and there they are. Man had nothing to do with it. Yes climate changes, man did not do it.

                                                                  • Matt in the Box

                                                                    Fine understanding of times scales there Ron.

                                                                    Arf, Arf. Even sealions applauded.

                                                                • Beejaym

                                                                  Next time actually post some math and science if you’re going to make a scientific statement like this. If you actually do look at numbers instead of fudging them for opinion pieces that contain words like “likely” and reciting other op-ed pieces, the numbers over a 50,000+ year span paint a bleak picture that exponentially explodes within the past 50 years.

                                                                  But, because you can only do this once and never repeat the results, it’s all called a “theory” and then idiots like you jump all over this “theory” because you have no fucking clue how science actually works and think they pulled this theory out of their asses since they call it a “theory”.

                                                                  You people should be locked up and put away so the rest of humanity can save your sorry asses from yourselves.

                                                                • Don P
                                                                • Teresa Mulligan

                                                                  The manipulative money whores that are pushing the “climate change” agenda are the same political money whores that warned us the next ice age was starting in the 60s.

                                                                • http://smu.gs/L1p7XU winston
                                                                • Stormoak Lonewind
                                                                • Susan Wilcix

                                                                  My friend says this article is a hoax! I can’t find it refuted on snopes.com but there are a ton of pro- global warming articles on there!

                                                                • timallard

                                                                  Our global problem is like this, a full glacial cycle takes 100,000-years and CO2 varies 100-ppm, from 180-280-ppm, that’s textbook Pleistocene-Holocene history averages.

                                                                  During the 800k-year ice-core record the maximum CO2 was 305±5-ppm, 3 interglacials ago, ok, we passed that about 1916 and since then added 100-ppm … let that sink in for rate-of-change.

                                                                  That’s a “glacial cycle” in only 100-years and it’s all ABOVE the highest CO2 value reached in a million years, acidifying the oceans 10-times faster than an extinction event.
                                                                  [ ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture; Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFob9Wy45E ]

                                                                  We must exit the Steam Age for electrons, most grid power is for thermal end-uses 80%, not electricity 20%, so to switch will only take 5-years moving to solar-HVAC, maybe 2-months if it was a war but don’t tell.

                                                                • Hallur Hallsson

                                                                  Any chance of getting those names? the 30.000 names? and their education? And maybe a link to all those studies?

                                                                • PatBryanTX2

                                                                  31,00 ‘scientists’, eh? I think that you are lying.

                                                                • Dave

                                                                  I personally don’t have any wish to believe in climate change because any good that could of come from it has been turned into a money making machine by the powerful and rich. However, I do believe we each have an opportunity to make our planet a better place to live. Whether this is by clean energy such as solar, wind and water or just by how we go about our daily lives. This could be by making sure trash is dispensed properly, or maybe it can be by switching off a few unwarranted lights or maybe as simple as planting an extra tree in your back yard. When we start appreciating what we have and working with the environment we will then start repairing some of the damage we have done.

                                                                  • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                    Dave, there is nothing wrong with getting rid of pollution or saving energy. Taxing CO2 (a non-pollutant) in the Western world does not help much when the increase of pollution happens in the developing world. Switching to solar and wind is not going to happen. It does not replace oil and is only doable with heavy subsidies. “Green” policies have lost Ontario 300,000 manufacturing jobs. At what benefit?…

                                                                • SeeBee78

                                                                  Lol. Well look at the ads and articles linked from this page. Yup looks like the top of the top news sources for the class of Americans who think climate change is a hoax, christians are persecuted in america, jesus rose from the dead, and the universe was magically created thousands of years ago by big sky daddy. Heck, lets throw aliens and chem trails in there too. Maybe even some 911 truthering. Lol. Morons.

                                                                  • SeeBee78

                                                                    Haha, why not go all out and say Trump should be prez, the election is rigged (f he loses), and killary is the devil…

                                                                • Mario Veras

                                                                  The only hoax I see here is this satirical article.

                                                                  • Little Man Tate

                                                                    This is not “satire”, you mouthbreather. There is no comedic bent, no hyperbole or exaggeration of a real viewpoint, value or behavior, none of the distinguishing hallmarks of satire. This is face-value misinformation catering to the ignorant, and you’d be well served to learn the difference.

                                                                • Rebecca Morley
                                                                • Marilyn Rubin

                                                                  Yes, 2014 was touted as being “the hottest ever” in the Earth’s history because of climate change. The petition and the documents included were all made to look like official papers from the prestigious National Academy of Science. They weren’t, and this attempt to mislead has been well-documented.

                                                                • Guenther

                                                                  Almost all quotations and facts in the above pamphlet are false. I.E,. Hans von Storch is vivid warner of climate change : ” Based on the scientific evidence, I am convinced that we are facing
                                                                  anthropogenic climate change brought about by the emission of greenhouse
                                                                  gases into the atmosphere” and he never made that mentioned survey!

                                                                  Dennis Bray isn’t even from Germany, but from Cambridge and a Biologist !! He never even mentioned climate change !!!

                                                                • MadRabbits

                                                                  Oh how breathless the Socialists get about climate change…. First, let’s all agree that until private jets are outlawed, socialist are not serious about this, and it’s all about politics… As one Socialist stated, vote blue all the way down the ticket…. Well that’s self serving… Let’s also take the multi million dollar grants away, since only those who believe in the agenda will get them… Nothing makes a scientist believe like a ten million dollar grant…. We need to take the breathless idiots, who espouse knowledge, but truthfully just regurgitate socialist talking points out of the equation…. Finally, for the Socialists who really believe in this agenda, you get only one breathless prrdiction…. If you start out claming a coming ice age, then shift to uncontrollable global warming, then finally settle for just climate change, because you really don’t know what the hell you are talking about…. You are debunked, sit the hell down and shut up… Retired atmospheric control tech. USN, ret

                                                                  • Matt in the Box

                                                                    Ban private jets on environmental grounds. I’d vote for it.

                                                                • sdredneck

                                                                  Liberals and democrats always lie to get what they want. It is a ploy right out of the Marx/Lenin playbook. B@#$^%#s.

                                                                • Grog618

                                                                  Climate change is NOT a hoax! The climate recently changed from summer to fall and next month it will change again to winter, to be followed by spring and then summer!

                                                                  • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                    …and to make it even more confusing, the southern hemisphere is 2 seasons behind… er, Maybe 2 seasons ahead?…

                                                                • Grog618

                                                                  Why is it that when it comes to this climate change garbage, liberals say the science supports what they claim to be the truth; yet when it comes to transgender garbage, they argue the truth of the science of the DNA.

                                                                • Ed O’Meara

                                                                  The motive that “Al Gore and cronies continue getting richer from the global warming hoax” is absolutely absurd. Even ignoring any scientist worth their salt and the fact that climate change is happening and observable, there is just zero reason why powerful interests would advise moving away from fossil fuels.

                                                                • Ed O’Meara

                                                                  Even this article can’t back up its claims. It says that the White House lies about how overwhelmingly convinced scientists are about man made climate change. Then they add:

                                                                  “A 2008 survey by two German scientists, Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch, found that a significant number of scientists were skeptical of the ability of existing global climate models to accurately predict global temperatures, precipitation, sea-level changes, or extreme weather events even over a decade; they were far more skeptical as the time horizon increased.”

                                                                  Which isn’t evidence. This just says that 8 YEARS AGO there was disagreement in climate models. Well, no shit.

                                                                  The motive that “Al Gore and cronies continue getting richer from the global warming hoax” is absolutely absurd. Even ignoring any scientist worth their salt and the fact that climate change is happening and observable, there is just zero reason why powerful interests would advise moving away from fossil fuels.

                                                                  This isn’t journalism. This stuff would make a high school blogger blush.

                                                                • James McDowell

                                                                  From many years ago……..

                                                                  Famous weather scientist, Dr. Algore , formerly associated with A.S.S.H.O.L.E. (Algores Scatological Scientific Hagiographic Of Ludicrous Environmentalism) until it’s disbandment, and who was the creator of C.A.T.S.H.I.T. (Cap And Trade Scientific Hagiography & International Treatise) later found himself linked to the famous group, D.O.G.T.U.R.D. (Dumpers Of Global Temperature Unit’s Research Data),headquartered in East Anglia. That was one of a series of astounding efforts to preserve and increase tax payer supported financial backing and grants to the huge group of pseudo scientists, hell bent on redistributing the resources of the developed world and driving those countries into poverty.This of course while enriching their own bank accounts…………..We wish Dr. Algore a failure of effort, and hope that he and all the cru crew (cru-climate research unit) will be able to get the accommodations they so richly deserve, at the Mookatorium in Arbuckle, Virginia.

                                                                • Billy S DuBose

                                                                  I think we are in a natural cycle! We just haven’t been keeping records for a hundred thousand years………long enough to realize it !

                                                                • Roxene Kimes

                                                                  REALLY? ..making money is but a side bar. the real goal is MUCH more egregious than simply making money. Through indoctrination in the public schools they have dumbed down several generations that believe anything the media pumps out there and the goal is control through intimidation and fear, a control that will be used to put the UN in control and remove the United States and its constitution and freedom. We are on target for the New World Order and climate change is just one of many ways to garner the fear necessary to take the control needed to ratchet up the gullibility.

                                                                  • Well informed

                                                                    Your thoughts on indoctrination of millennials in public school is fascinating. Being a millennial myself, I wonder why you believe we are a dumbed down generation of non-thinkers?

                                                                    I dont personally believe a fucking thing I hear on the news. Doesnt matter if its CNN or Fox News. I’ve learned to think like this due to a little thing called the internet. A wonderful place where I can access unbiased information and fact check it at other sources along the way. It’s been very helpful as a bullshit detector. Many of us “dumbed down” millennials are doing this. We’re smarter and more informed than your generation. So kindly shut the fuck up, and stop making assumptions about us.

                                                                    As far as Climate Change goes…What harm comes to you if we change to renewable energy sources? You seem to care a great deal that a few rich and powerful people get to line their pockets, but you neglect to mention all of the fossil fuel tycoons who are currently lining their pockets while pumping pollution and death back into world. Have you seen Beijing? Do you want our cities to be like that? Do you want your children and your grandchildren to have to wear masks when they go outside? What happens when the droughts and flooding get worse?

                                                                    You’re a fool. You think we’re all drinking the kool-aid, falling for a big scam, but it’s really you and YOUR generation that’s gullible and selfish. I’m sorry that you fear change, but I’d very much like for my grandkids and their kids and so on to actually have a future on this planet. Fuck you for being part of the problem.

                                                                    • Ziggy Eckardt

                                                                      You have looked at Beijing and concluded that we must introduce a carbon (CO2) tax? I know a lot of smart young people. You are not one of them.

                                                                    • Morris

                                                                      The internet has multiple times MORE biased info than unbiased. How do YOU know what is biased and what isn’t? Crystal ball? Nope, your super sized ego of your mental superiority, it appears. Gawd, I bet your fun at a party as you gather folks around you and spout yopur deep understanding of….well, everything.

                                                                  • Johnpd

                                                                    Correct. Research UN Agenda 21, & read William Guy Carr’s book, Pawns in the Game.
                                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEYpjgpg3X4

                                                                  • anthony divjak

                                                                    Absolutely correct! Its about our financing our own demise in form of depopulation as per UN agenda 21!

                                                                • http://www.politickles.com/blog F.R. Duplantier

                                                                  Fraudster the Snowman

                                                                  by F.R. Duplantier

                                                                  Fraudster the Snowman
                                                                  Was an enterprising pol,
                                                                  With a trust-fund life
                                                                  And an upturned nose
                                                                  And a heart made out of coal.

                                                                  Fraudster the Snowman
                                                                  Was a senator, they say.
                                                                  He was made of snow,
                                                                  But the voters know
                                                                  How he came to life one day.

                                                                  There must have been some magic in
                                                                  Those tight blue jeans they found,
                                                                  For when they placed them on his legs
                                                                  He began to dance around.

                                                                  O, Fraudster the Snowman
                                                                  Found a way to live for free.
                                                                  While the people pay,
                                                                  He could laugh and play
                                                                  And drive around in an SUV.

                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  Look at Fraudster go.
                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  O the bilge of snow!

                                                                  Fraudster the Snowman
                                                                  Knew the sun was hot some days,
                                                                  So he said, “I’ll hoax
                                                                  All the stupid folks
                                                                  And get myself a big pay raise.”

                                                                  Down to the village,
                                                                  With a hockey stick in hand
                                                                  And some bogus graphs
                                                                  And some doctored stats,
                                                                  Showing crisis for the land.

                                                                  He led them to his Waterloo,
                                                                  Where the facts came out at last,
                                                                  But he never once admitted that
                                                                  He was just plain full of crap.

                                                                  For Fraudster the Snowman
                                                                  Liked to always have his way,
                                                                  So he waved goodbye
                                                                  Saying, “Don’t deny,
                                                                  I’ll be back again some day.”

                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  Look at Fraudster go.
                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  Huffedy humbug,
                                                                  O the bilge of snow!

                                                                • JohnnyAdams8

                                                                  Load a horse shit! If you believe in evelution then why try to change evelotion its part of it! Thats why there are polar bears there at all and not in antartic becaose at some point it got warm enough for polar nears to be there, idiots!

                                                                • JohnnyAdams8

                                                                  Why are they trying to stop evolution

                                                                • Box1Car

                                                                  REAL
                                                                  HOAX is idea we can do anything to stop it> Max Planck Institute for
                                                                  Solar Research has found TIPPING POINT reached in 1980 where Earth avg
                                                                  temp continues upward despite a drop in solar output> PERMAFROST has
                                                                  melted to a point where Artic & Siberian Tundra Bio-Mass has melted
                                                                  to release more CO2 & Methane gas than we could ever hope to
                                                                  corral> Too late now DUH

                                                                • Morris

                                                                  Nine out of ten ‘scientists” are in the pocket of the government to pay for their existence. Who’s going to disagree under the threat of losing funding.

                                                                • William Drumm Sr.

                                                                  We know people like Gore are full of, let’s just say that the world is full of people coning other people in many different ways. Just look at the Democrat’s in this year’s election. There all full of **it.

                                                                • ZinkDifferent
                                                                • Peter

                                                                  Utter rubbish! Even Coleman’s Weather Chanel says otherwise Climate Change is real. https://weather.com/science/environment/news/global-warming-weather-channel-position-statement-20141029

                                                                • John Gabriel

                                                                  …And when did Al Gore become qualified and an expert on such matters? Just another Useful Idiot among the rest of the “left wing” knuckleheads.

                                                                • http://www.streelnieks.lv Ukko Järvi

                                                                  What a load of bullcrap

                                                                • Stephen Lococo

                                                                  this is a bullshit article. the elite wish it was a hoax. fucking mouthpiece douchebags

                                                                • Corndog

                                                                  Man-made-Smog YES…..Man-made-Climate Change NO!!!

                                                                  However, our climate has and will always change…it is up to us to ADAPT and OVERCOME however the climate changes!!!

                                                                • Concerned

                                                                  You know where you see the pictures above and you click them to see what they are talking about??? They don’t even mention the one with the picture. To me this is false advertising.
                                                                  For along time people have said the demos are lying about global warming. It is not that it maybe false so much as it is not caused by people, it is not their fault and we cannot do anything about it. These people are lying to you.

                                                                • John Delaney

                                                                  Anyone who denies Climate change is a freaking moron. 30,000 scientists? BS! Anyone with the intelligence to do even a modicum of research can quickly confirm for themselves the climactic data for the past 100 years and SEE the warming trend.

                                                                  Now,this is NOT primarily man made but it IS changing.

                                                                  Please define WHO is supposedly making money on this?

                                                                  I am a qulified, certified meteorologist and MY research shows an increase in annual temperatures for the last 100 years. If you want to do a detailed study start with records beginning in 1800 and trend forward to 2000. IF you cannot see the difference..then you messers madams are lame of brain.

                                                                • Mira

                                                                  This is CRAP. I hope your site will be on the liste with fake news circulating everywhere…CRAP. ( not even holy, just crap)

                                                                • Elmer P Thudpucker

                                                                  Science is never settled, that’s the beauty of science. It’s all hypothesis, simple as that. Now when research scientists say “hold on a minute” They lose their grants and other funding. Pretty strong argument to agree with climate change if you want to continue research.

                                                                  • zzz05

                                                                    So you have a lot of experience with applying for grants, what works, what doesn’t, do you?

                                                                • David A Riewe

                                                                  Bullshit news site
                                                                  WHAT’S TRUE: A petition that has been in circulation since 1998 claims to bear the name of more than 30,000 signatures from scientists who reject the concept of anthropogenic global warming.

                                                                  WHAT’S FALSE: The petition was created by individuals and groups with political motivations, was distributed using misleading tactics, is presented with almost no accountability regarding the authenticity of its signatures, and asks only that you have received an undergraduate degree in any science to sign.

                                                                  Aside from the potential political motivations behind the petition, the misleading tactics employed to gather signatures, and the lack of verification regarding those signatures, the fact remains that the petition is open to anyone with an undergraduate background in science to sign, and a vast majority of the signatories are not climate scientists.

                                                                • Johnpd

                                                                  http://www.c3headlines.com

                                                                  Click on Quotes to find the agendas of the Communist idiots & Bankster 1%s pushing the warming/climate fraud.
                                                                  They want a one world totalitarian govt & a vast depopulation.
                                                                  John Doran.

                                                                • Joe

                                                                  There is a lot of different information to take into account when looking into global warming. Average temperatures, average CO2 levels, Population, energy consumption are all things to take into consideration. By looking at the links I provide and cross referencing the information you see a correlation between human activity and the average temperature of earth increasing. The first link (http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/) shows average CO2 levels, the second (https://ourfiniteworld.com/2012/03/12/world-energy-consumption-since-1820-in-charts/) shows energy consumption, population as well as many other things, and the third (http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap15/global_temp.html) shows average temperatures. Cross referencing this information with each other as well as world events that happened throughout the time periods of the graphs it clearly shows that humans have had an affect on temperature and cause or speed up the process of global warming.

                                                                • quita

                                                                  Climate change is real people whether we want to believe it or not. I am currently taking an Environmental course and I have found out so many interesting things about climate change. One thing I have learned the Earth is not only changing but so is oxygen levels it has increased from an estimated 2-3 per cent in the Cambrian to 21 per cent today. Also we are breathing in about 1 kilogram of CO2 each day. In addition to that you have to sit back and ask yourself why are states that are typically cold receiving warmer weather? Why is sea-level continuing to rise? How are we having more natural disasters than we have had in the past? it all circles back to climate change you can be in denial but if you closely observe the environment that you live in you will see that climate change is real and it is not just a hoax. It is happening everyday it may not be happening as fast as some scientist claim but it is happening and it is up to us to help stop it.

                                                                • This guy

                                                                  Why is everyone so HEATED over this?
                                                                  Also how come this page has no evidence. It just says a bunch of people discovered climate change isn’t real. Then goes on to insulting Al Gore and friends

                                                                • zzz05

                                                                  I think most of the What Me Warming? posters here are staggering also.

                                                                • Colin Spencer

                                                                  Questioning the beliefs of those who are convinced that emissions resulting from human activity are changing the climate results in some unpleasant responses. Even in Australia, where a vast continent is almost uninhabited by comparison with those of the northern hemisphere, people are convinced that the climate is affected by their activity. No scientist worth his salt would say Australia’s emissions would change the climate, one way or another. Not with data, that’s for sure. However, regardless of the irrational beliefs of warmists, the more rational people have the intellect to reduce their energy consumption, and create ways to eliminate dangerous emissions. Not because they fear global warming, or because they think they can change the ever changing climate, but because they are innovators and actually doing something to improve our environment, rather than simply agitating – which is how those with only a belief system function.

                                                                • Jay Manne

                                                                  Planet Earth is a living breathing organism that has endured for the 4.5 billion years of it’s existence. Our environment is affected by volcanoes, solar flares, shifts in tectonic plates and the moon. Changes were happening long before humans walked on this planet. And, to be more specific, humans didn’t really impact anything until the dawn of the industrial revolution in the late 19th Century. The premise many of these Climate Change folks believe is that if WE created Global Climate Change WE can fix it… that is insane.
                                                                  What angers me is that science declared in the 1970’s that we were going into an ice age…. then reversed fields and declared Global Warming in the 90’s… when their theories didn’t pan out as projected, they decided to move to a more generic Climate Change. Sure, the climate is changing, as it’s always been changing, but these scientists wish us to believe their theories based on a “consensus”. That’s pure garbage. Long ago, there was a consensus the universe revolved around the earth. And then there was a consensus that the earth was flat. Theories have to be PROVEN by data, and the consensus doesn’t have the data. Now, they wish to tax industrial democracies to death to pay for it all. And finally, in the next 50 years, we will not be using Fossil fuels to run our cars, or heat our homes… The jig is up…. prove it, or lose it.

                                                                  • 9.8m/ss

                                                                    “science declared in the 1970’s that we were going into an ice age”
                                                                    No, science did not. That was a media stampede to a false story. All through the 1970s, there were few climate predictions in the professional (refereed) science journals. And they were about six to one for warming due to manmade greenhouse gases.
                                                                    “And then there was a consensus that the earth was flat.”
                                                                    That is a lie also. Educated people have known the size and shape of the earth for over 2000 years, long before the scientific method was developed. The Greeks, Persians, Chinese, and maybe the Mayans, all figured it out independently. There was a time, known as the Dark Ages, when educated people had to hide that knowledge from an authoritarian church-state that was teaching false science, to avoid being tortured to death.

                                                                • weedpuller

                                                                  I’m surprised it’s not 300,000!
                                                                  The data is cherry-picked to a fare-thee well by the climate change fatalists.

                                                                • 9.8m/ss

                                                                  The Oregon Petition was a fraud when it was introduced, with a fake National Academy of Sciences cover letter. It was still a fraud when they removed Homer Simpson and the other obvious joke names. And my former room mate’s cat is still on there. They think he has a PhD in physics.

                                                                  John Coleman has no training or expertise related to climate. He’s a television weather reader. His only innovation is the news-free “happy talk” local TV news format. The founders of the Weather Channel hired him as a celebrity front man to raise venture capital. They fired him as soon as they were up and running. Thirty years later, “founder of the Weather Channel” is still the only thing on his resume, and he’s working part time for the fossil fuel investors’ anti-science public relations network.

                                                                • shannob

                                                                  I missed the link to the 30000 scientists

                                                                • Plinda Joblonski

                                                                  I am no scientist, but I signed the petition. Anyone can. No one checks who you are, what credentials you have, nothing. In fact both Mickey Mouse, PhD and Donald Duck, PhD have.

                                                                • ferebetv

                                                                  The Club of Rome, a Jesuit Order controlled entity, came up with the concept of human made climate change to further enslave the human race under their luciferian control.

                                                                • sally
                                                                • timallard

                                                                  Our global problem is like this, a full glacial cycle takes 100,000-years and CO2 varies 100-ppm, from 180-280-ppm, that’s textbook Pleistocene-Holocene history averages.

                                                                  During the 800k-year ice-core record the max CO2 was 305±5-ppm, that was 3 interglacials ago, ok, we passed that about 1916 and since then added 100-ppm …

                                                                  That’s a “glacial cycle” in 100-years not 100,000.

                                                                  And, it’s ABOVE the CO2 peak reached for the Pleistocene acidifying the oceans: “The rate of acidification is 10-times faster or more than anything we have seen for the past 50-million years and perhaps over the last 300-million years.”.

                                                                  ICES ASC 2013 Plenary Lecture by Dr Richard Feely, 9:10 into 1:01:08; 14:30 in CO2 vertical maps; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFob9Wy45E

                                                                  We must exit the Steam Age for electrons, most grid power is for thermal end-use 80%, not electricity 20%, so to switch will only take 5-years moving to solar-HVAC, maybe 2-months if it was a war, don’t tell.

                                                                  I like Dr. Hansen’s solution of a “carbon penalty fee” that takes the money FROM THE POLLUTERS and distributes it to all citizens equally, they spend it –>> the economy grows.

                                                                • Kenneth Ho

                                                                  Just assume that climate change is a hoax, the planet isn’t warming up. Please tell me that what’s going to happen to humans and other animals if CO2 level keep rise at the current rate? Cutting emission isn’t just for climate sake, it’s for our own sake even if climate change is a hoax, which in fact it is not!

                                                                • OG Mally Bieber

                                                                  The Global Change agenda is driven by a desire to have more industrialized countries “pay” less industrialized nations a sort of “reparations” due to their lag in taking advantage of economic opportunity. The idea that “we owe them” is what is important in their frame of thought. Global Warmists desire us to “admit our fault” – and pay off. This is just an extension of the liberal / leftist idea that it’s just coincidence that the western economies “won” in the last 400 years, and that winners somehow owe the losers. It didn’t used to be this way. It pays to be the winner. That is a truth that transcends everything. And if they can convince us to stand this on its head – then they have exerted a power. Don’t give it to them. It is a reversal of many, many generations of struggle that will be ceded by a demand. Screw their demand. Your ancestors paid a dear price to win – and it would be a dire shame to give up what they’ve left us simply because someone cried about it.

                                                                • OG Mally Bieber

                                                                  Remember in the Hunger Games this line where the game master says “Everyone loves an underdog” – then president Snow says “I don’t – and neither would you if you met them”. See – I’m a lot like that guy. I don’t have a “soft spot” in my heart for the underdog – or the losers of history. I don’t crave a sense of “balance”. No – there are winners and losers – and it’s much, much better to be (even by happenstance) to be on the winning side. I feel no shame whatsoever. Go away Obama…

                                                                • mattwm

                                                                  Liberals hate the truth, and this article puts forth the truth that is being buried by the left. The global warming farce has gone on long enough, and until they can PROVE something, they should keep their mouths shut.

                                                                • http://strawn-04.blogspot.com/ Kenny Strawn

                                                                  I find it rather amusing that those who accuse anyone who doesn’t accept consensus as absolute truth of being of the “really dumb crowd” are the same people who go on to use tactics like CAPS LOCK and profanity that are themselves evidence not only of idiocy but also of gangsterism on the behalf of those who use them. If the left truly cared about intelligence as they claim to, then they wouldn’t be deliberately trying to make themselves look like street thugs when they argue on the Internet.

                                                                • Jason
                                                                • PursueJustice

                                                                  Follow the money.

                                                                • Sugarsail1

                                                                  The religious attributes of the climate doomsayer’s behavior suggests they have been heavily biased by innate religious instincts (yes we all have them). The apocalyptic flood…that is, sea levels will rise due to mankind’s sin unless we repent (build an ark, or drive a Prius) is a universal religious narrative not only contained in biblical tradition in the story of Noah, but also as the driving narrative of cults and other religious cosmologies in their own version of the myth. C.G. Jung called these innate instinctual patterns “archetypes” and are the building blocks of myth, lore, film, literature, dreams and even the delusions of the insane. We aren’t witnessing mere political shenanigans, we are witnessing the biggest apocalyptic cult the world has ever seen. Discussions held only in the physical sciences cannot resolve this anymore than arguing about biology with a Christian about Christ’s resurrection from the dead is going to convince them otherwise.

                                                                • Kai Poynting

                                                                  If this was real, it would have supporting evidence. NOT circular reports citing other bogus news articles. Primary evidence. A survey of scientists, a list of the 9 thousand ‘scientists’ with PHDs that we could cross-reference to see how many actually support this anti-climate change message.