Yeah, it has only been proven FALSE so many times. I really wish people
would understand that Autism is a neuro-difference, not caused by
vaccines… what a crock!!! I have Three kids. ONE who is autistic… ALL THREE HAD THE SAME SHOTS. Get a clue! The reason we are having more diagnosis could be better knowledge? D’OH!
Autism is epidemic and a national crisis, not only in humanitarian terms of suffering and lives lost but in economic terms. We cannot be a 1st rate nation when our children suffer from autism at a rate of 1 in 68…and increasing. The economic cost of caring for millions of growing children with autism and the loss of their economic contributions to society will cripple our country. Trump is smart to raise the issue. He speaks for millions of families all across the nation.
Autism is not on the rise. The diagnosis rate is because we are better able to diagnose. We have more knowledge. People who fear ASD and lunatics who use scare tactics to put fear in those who do not understand ASD. There is NO correlation between Vaccinations and ASD. It has been proven time and time again, but people listen to groups like Autism $peaks who are actually a hate group and think of ASD as a tragedy. My son is not a tragedy. He is an amazing human. None of the amazing ASD kids and adults I know are. I wish people would try to understand and educate themselves with truth, not listen to the quacks.
So, you are NOT a quack for pushing vaccines ? I dare say you have not followed the real studies that show the correlation. Then you will ask for us to show you he proof and then you will deny that it says exactly what it purports to show. Shills are what is making a mockery of vaccines or no vaccines. You will even say that there are no bad ingredients lie aluminum, mercury, aborted fetus cells, monkey kidney cells, etc and etc. I feel sad for people like you who have no clue what is going on in our supposedly A-1 medical system that is injuring/killing children and adults every day. Over $3,000,000,000.00 paid out to those that proved their case. We ae not in a Third World country – but our vaccinations are making us worse off than those without proper sanitation, food, etc………..
Name the “real studies that show the correlation”. And bear in mind that Wakefield’s work was fraudulent. And ask a competent lawyer about what ” proving your case ” actually means in the context of a civil court settlement.
Dr. Wakefield has had his license restored and has been vindicated….courts have found that he was right about vaccines causing Autism as well as other diseases and injuries….My daughter did her Capstone Project for her Masters in Legal Studies at WVU on Vaccines and the court cases she uncovered, as well as the data she researched, including nearly 60 studies that prove the relationship between vaccines and Autism are vast.
I suggest you look up the Nuremberg Code…forced vaccinations are akin to Eugenics practiced by the Nazis during WWII…ALL vaccines are EXPERIMENTAL. There has never been a long-term controlled blind study, vaxed VS un-vaxed done on any vaccine…Also check out Jacobson VS Massachusetts that went to the Supreme Court and is settled law.
I call the CDC the Centers for Disease Creation…The D stands for Denial, Deception and Disinformation. The CDC and the FDA are the incestuous whores of the Pharmaceutical Companies!
“Dr. Wakefield has had his license restored and has been vindicated.. ” I suggest that if you want anyone with any sense of reality to fall for your distortions and misrepresentations, then you don’t start with something which is easily checked and absolutely false. Or are you so deluded by this “movement” that you actually believe that?
Again, if your daughter found “nearly 60” studies I expect you could name one or two of them? Still waiting.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
He has not – He is still disbarred, and not just for his fraud – but for :
“Was being paid to conduct the study by solicitors representing parents who believed their children had been harmed by MMR”.
Ordered investigations “without the requisite paediatric qualifications” including colonoscopies, colon biopsies and lumbar punctures (“spinal taps”) on his research subjects without the approval of his department’s ethics board and contrary to the children’s clinical interests, when these diagnostic tests were not indicated by the children’s symptoms or medical history.
“Act[ed] ‘dishonestly and irresponsibly’ in failing to disclose … how patients were recruited for the study”.
“Conduct[ed] the study on a basis not approved by the hospital’s ethics committee.”
Purchased blood samples—for £5 each—from children present at his son’s birthday party, which Wakefield joked about in a later presentation.
“[S]howed callous disregard for any distress or pain the children might suffer”
Read the Wakefield chapter in Vaccination Epidemic to get a broader view of these charges, he explains everything quite well. Not saying anything is okay, it’s just good to know both sides…
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
Lets not forget that Wakefield was only anti the combined MMR jab, he made a nice niche for his practice giving the 3 separately.
Same old BS from an obvious agent of misinformation.
He did spinal taps on children!?! They’re horrifically painful, and from what this quack sounds like, he probably didn’t anesthetize the child…
I had a spinal tap and didn’t feel a thing!
I imagine you were, or the area was, anesthetized…
Yes, that is true!
Thank your lucky stars…!
Are you that maggot Brian Deer?
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
Are you familiar with the term “ad hominem”?
Yea Brian you maggot.
Bored with and tired of it being another useless reply from those with blind faith in science pathology.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
If your bored of it, try to not type like an eight year old and have a reasoned argument rather than name calling. And its not blind faith, but repeatable, empirical, peer reviewed evidence based science. Distinct from the pathological science* of the anti-vax movement.
*Used here in the Irving Langmuir meaning.
Well we can add “An inability to distinguish adult communication from that of an 8 year old” to your list of failures.
If you read a specific chapter about Wakefield you’d have a very different view on what happened, it was just brutal how he was hung out to dry. Did you know his study was actually trying to FIND a link between autism and intestinal diseases?
Yes he was subsidized by Injury/trial lawyers “ANDREW WAKEFIELD, the former surgeon whose campaign linking the MMR vaccine with autism caused a collapse in immunisation rates, was paid more than £400,000 by lawyers trying to prove that the vaccine was unsafe.” the Deer Report… and you are right he was trying to FIND as opposed to just trying to determine the truth.
Plenty of people have been awarded millions of dollars for vaccine related injuries. I guess that money was awarded on no such credible evidence, right? It’s interesting how Autism sky rocketed at the same time the number of vaccines were increased. The most insane part is vaccinating a child within 24 hours of being born. There adaptive immune system isn’t anywhere near being developed. So what the hell are the responding to? Anything to make a buck.
Key words…Credible evidence.
The rise in Autism also coincides with the marketing of organic food, the use of cell phones…..and probably the number of naturopaths out there doing anything for a buck. Doesn’t imply causation.
But Jeanne’s daughter “found nearly 60” of them, and yet she can’t name any of them. Hmm, is it possible that the anti-vaxxers are just irresponsibly passing a bunch of misinformation amongst each other, with nobody caring whether any of it is really true? Resulting in terrible outbreaks of preventable diseases, *and* in additional and utterly unwarranted confusion for the parents of children on the autism spectrum – a condition – not a disease- which has *nothing* *whatsoever* to do with vaccines? I am one of those parents, but I can see this tinfoil-hat nonsense for what it is.
There are many studies that show a link between vaccines and autism. . http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/22-medical-studies-that-show-vaccines.html
I hope everyone will watch the video of Congressman Bill Posey explaining how the CDC found a link and then tried to shred the evidence and lie to the public.
Greg, you just sound like a pharma shill. The GIG IS Up ! They can not go on damaging so many children and expect ALL of the parents to be too stupid to notice that it happened right after a vaccine.
I’m on your side, but very few know the truth. They just mandated vaccines for children in California, and adults are next on the agenda.
We are just tilting at windmills here – it’s a crowd of people that don’t understand peer review, and one that’s making bank off of the con. It’s seriously pointless, like convincing cult members to live life in the regular world off the compound.
Name the studies that show that Wakefield’s work was fraudulent. Show me the studies that prove that aluminum and mercury are harmless especially when injected into a human or an animal.
Dr. Wakefield’s study was not fraudulent, but keep in mind he is not the only doctor who is against vaccines. There are hundreds of scientists and doctors who condemn vaccines. You don’t know this? Is the mainstream “bought and paid for media” your only source of knowledge? Educate yourself. There is no excuse for ignorance.
When the only vaccines given were oral polio and the DPT vaccine…the incidence of Autism was 1 in 110,000…now that 32 vaccines are required before a child enters Kindergarten the incidence of Autism is now 1 in 50, especially for boys…When a child gets a vaccine and they stop making eye contact, stop all language and start having meltdowns…it doesn’t take a genius to make the diagnosis.
They stopped vaccinating all babies under the age of two in Japan and the incidence of SIDS dropped 95%…
You are in denial!
“They stopped vaccinating all babies under the age of two in Japan and the incidence of SIDS dropped 95%”
got a citation for that? They changed the DPT (Tdap) schedule in 1975 and the number of cases of pertussis skyrocketed (from 393 in 1974 to 13,000+ in 1979), as did the number of deaths from it (from 0 in 1974 to 41 in 1979). But, it also seems that there was a bit of cherry picked data going on there. There number of claims of SIDS related to vaccine dropped, not the actual number of SIDS cases.
Then just continue to vaccinate your loved ones. We really don’t care what you do.
Gosh, my 3 nieces all have been vaccinated. One is at Notre Dame and will graduate a year early, one just skipped a grade and the third’s father doesn’t want the school to move her up so they have her in a special advanced program. No autism, no diseases. Funny how that works, Jo.
If they are in college now, they did not receive the “battery” of vaccinations at the condensed rate that kids today are getting. Vaccinations are a good thing, and they work, however the danger is in administering them all at one time to young kids, some children’s systems do not seem to respond well to the onslaught. But hey….perhaps it is survival of the fittest and those kids who develop disorders due to their inability to process the onslaught of vaccinations at one time are easily weeded out as they develop issues that make them none productive parts of society.
Reading comprehension not your strong suit? ONE is in college. ONE is 10. ONE is 9. My cousin has 2 children, 1 boy and 1 girl, both vaccinated. ages 3 and 6, perfectly normal. 2 of my good friends growing up have children ages 2, 5 and 8. All vaccinated, all perfectly normal. The brother of my friends (they are sisters) was not vaccinated for anything until required by the school at age 6, has ASD. Imagine that. All of you whackos blow everything out of proportion, as though vaccines are mentally damaging some huge percentage of the population or making them sick which just isn’t true.
The science is in. Vaccines contain aluminum and mercury. They are metals that cause damage to the neurological system. Vaccines are dangerous. All vaccines do harm in way way or others.
You’re right, the science is in. Vaccines save lives. Micro amounts of adjuvants don’t hurt people.
The science is in, vaccines do not prevent disease, they cause disease and death. VAERS paid out billions of dollars in vaccine injury and continues to pay out. Aduvants don’t cause damage? Are you kidding me? The facts speak for themselves!
10,000 children lost their lives to Bill Gate’s wonderful polio vaccine in India. 48,000 and counting have been paralyzed by the same wonderful vaccine. Where have you been?
Blah blah blah. If vaccines didn’t prevent disease there would be a lot more dead people. But luddites such as yourself think vitamin C and clean water magically got rid of the worlds nasties. Why am I even debating? You aren’t a doctor, you’ve probably never taken past an 8th grade science class. Luckily, doctors, microbiologists, virologists and immunologists are all smarter than you so we have vaccines.
And, no, they weren’t paralyzed by the vaccine, that is more anti-vax nonsense.
Your lying again. Yes, they were paralyzed and so were many children in Nigeria who were vaccinated under the Bill Gate’s foundation. There are many doctors and scientists who are against vaccines and they are very vocal about it. Are you too ignorant to know this? Do I have to list their names? I will. All these doctors are a lot smarter than you. That is very obvious. By the way, I have a Masters what are your credentials? You come across as super ignorant!
I didn’t say they weren’t paralyzed. I said it wasn’t the vaccine. Please learn to read better Ann.
Sure, list names like the “doctor” Sherry Tenpenny. Or maybe you want to cite the criminal Andrew Wakefield.
And at the end of the day, I know that NOT going to medical school was the right choice, because there is no point saving morons like yourself that are so easily fooled into the anti-vax propaganda. Too bad I didn’t go into viral research, maybe I could have removed your genes from the breeding pool.
It wasn’t the vaccine? Then what was it? Well, I guess this proves that you are as ignorant as I thought you were.
Removing my genes from the gene pool? I hope everyone who reads your posts can realize how arrogant and ignorant you really are. That would be impossible!
Yes, not going to med school was the right choice for you because you would never have graduated unless you bought your diploma.
My guess is that you have been vaccinated too much and you are brain damaged.
” Then what was it?”
You’re the one throwing out the statistic and you don’t know? Cute. There are other viruses out there that cause paralysis, enterovirus 2, coxsackie, etc.
“Yes, not going to med school was the right choice for you because you would never have graduated unless you bought your diploma.”
No, you don’t get accepted to medical school without performing on your MCAT. Sadly, that wasn’t the problem.
“My guess is that you have been vaccinated too much and you are brain damaged.”
No, there weren’t too many available for my generation. MMR, tetanus, flu, TDaP. Is insulting my intelligence all you have? I notice you didn’t say what you “masters” was in. I’d be tempted to guess “nutrition”.
“Nice brother. Throwing your sister under the bus.”
I don’t think stating a plain fact about her is throwing her under the bus. She can’t boil water.
” You must really be jealous of her education.”
Nope. She went into teaching. Now ask me how she passed the math and science requirements. Hint: someone you’re talking to had to tutor her in high school and college.
“Go back to school and learn something!”
Actually, you should take that advice. Ohio State has a great microbiology program that might help you. Micro 661 and 662 should prove the most helpful. After you’ve done actual lab work with viruses and vaccines, you might not be so histrionic.
“..what you masters was in..” Obviously you are not educated enough to know when to use the word you and the word your. Maybe your sister can help you figure it out.
oh dear, I left off a letter while typing, not quite the same as not knowing the difference between your and you’re is it? Did you check into the Micro program at Ohio State yet? Seriously, micro 661 and 662 will really help you figure out the truth.
I think you need to go to Ohio State. If you went there, obviously you didn’t learn a thing! Just what are your credentials? You sound like you are mentally challenged!
You also left off a capital letter on “oh dear”. Maybe your sister could teach you when to capitalize!
Why would I need to go to Ohio State? I already went there. Thus why I would suggest you look into the micro program there. You know, the one I already went through, how else would I know that micro 661 and 662 could be of use to you? Didn’t think your response through very well, did you?
You would go to Ohio State because you need to go again. You never learned anything the first time you attended. What are your credentials? Do you have a Masters in the Art of Knowing It all?
I don’t think I need to go again. I think I’ve made it plain what my area of study was, apparently you need it spelled out? You claimed to have a masters, yet when asked you failed to answer. Why is that? You are posting the same type of comments to multiple people on here. “Get an education” seems to be your tic.
I have a masters in the art of sniffing out others bullpucky, you drop a whole lot of it.
Well, I see you are circumventing my simple question, “What are your credentials?” This leaves me to believe you have none. People like you take a few courses and they think they “know it all.” When I read posts like yours my standard comment is , “Educate yourself.” Blowhards like you need to hear that advice over and over again.
A few courses? 4 years of study is a few courses, eh? You failed to answer my question as to your “masters”, so why should I answer yours.
Four years of study? You should be at the point where you know you don’t know it all. You need to further your education to the point where you mature and realize how little you really know. You obviously have a self-esteem problem which manifests itself by your show of arrogance and false pride. GROW UP!
“You should be at the point where you know you don’t know it all”
I didn’t claim to know it all. However, much more than you on this topic. You still failed to answer what your “masters” was in. I’m left to assume that was a big lie meant to intimidate. Didn’t work.
“You obviously have a self-esteem problem “
Not at all.
Take your own advice, Ann.
I have a Masters in Education and have taught for over 30 years. I have taught at the college and university level.
I am not a liar. Now, let’s hear about your credentials and education level. What are your accomplishments? You, do have a self-esteem problem because you are misrepresenting yourself as an authority of which you are not!
I have no intention of intimidating anyone. Having a degree should not intimidate anyone. There are millions of people who are a lot smarter than you or me who have no degrees.
I am entitled to my opinion on dangerous and life-threatening vaccines. I have been studying them for at least 25 years.
“I am entitled to my opinion on dangerous and life-threatening vaccines. I have been studying them for at least 25 years.”
Based on that statement alone, I don’t believe a word you say. Well, and your comment that Edward Jenner killed his son with the vaccine, which is an outright lie, since his son died from TB. Bye Felicia, enjoy your life of ignorance.
Oh, wait a minute Mr. Mouth. You haven’t revealed to me all of your noteworthy credentials and degrees! Don’t miss this opportunity to brag about yourself. Yes, Jenner’s son did die from the vaccine and so did his childhood friend, who was also experimented on. The TB was just another disease the boy contracted from the weakened immune system caused by the vaccine. You need to study more. You are very limited!
” Yes, Jenner’s son did die from the vaccine and so did his childhood friend, who was also experimented on”
Nope, he died from TB. A very common disease at the time. It also killed Jenner’s wife who, wait for it, wasn’t given Jenner’s treatment. Pray tell, what was the nature of the “vaccine” and by what method was it administered and how does that differ from the modern vaccine and how it is administered?
“You haven’t revealed to me all of your noteworthy credentials and degrees!”
I already explained it. Since you can’t seem to put a few things together, BS from Ohio State, Microbiology. I declined the option for medical school (Wright State) AND graduate work in 2 labs at Ohio State. So, I have actually worked with bacteria, viruses and vaccines. Have you?
I am left wondering what it is you teach. I can only hope it isn’t science, because I feel sorry for any student that would have to suffer you as a teacher.
You may have worked worked with bacteria and viruses so you know how dangerous they are when injected into a human being.
Please do all of your experiments on your own body and leave the rest of humanity out of your “mad” scientist experiments.
I see they are now using GMOs in vaccines. How long has this been going on? It is no wonder that our health industry in our country is so lucrative. People like you are making our population sicker than ever before in history
You should all be locked up.
So, unable at all to answer the questions on Jenner then? No surprise there.
“You may have worked worked with bacteria and viruses so you know how dangerous they are when injected into a human being.”
Yes, I know how dangerous they are when injected into a human being in their natural state. If you had ever done any work with them, which obviously you haven’t, you would have a different take. Instead, you get information from places like Natural News and Mercola and buy their scare tactics hook, line and sinker.
“People like you are making our population sicker than ever before in history”
Our population is living longer than ever and has undergone a radical lifestyle change. With an aging population, more sick people would be expected comparative to the past since people, you know, DIED. If this was 1900, you would probably have died from any number of diseases or childbirth and you certainly wouldn’t be “educated”, but you don’t care about those types of truth. You people are the loons that think life was so great before vaccines.
BTW, my great, great, great, great grandfather, Edward Jenner, would be appalled that people like you exist, I have no doubt.
Close your eyes to the fact that Cancer was practically unheard of before vaccines. Cancer is now one out of two and these so called learned scientist and doctors can’t come up with a cure.
You know so much? Where is your cure for the common cold? You don’t have one, but you do know that all of our babies should be injected with garbage. You disgust me!
The vaccine manufacturers however do know how to load the vaccines with SV40 to be made available to inject 98 million people with monkey cancer viruses. What a great contribution to humanity!!
Open your eyes and see the damage these vaccines are doing to people. Now we have Gardasil, which is destroying so many of our young girls, and just recently our boys. Testing vaccines and experimenting on our children is criminal! Criminals need to be locked up.
I am appalled that people like Jenner and people like you who advocate for this murder by needle exist.
“Cancer is now one out of two and these so called learned scientist and doctors can’t come up with a cure”
If you weren’t an uneducated buffoon, you would be well aware of the challenges in treating cancer.
“Where is your cure for the common cold?”
1) How many different viruses cause “the common cold”?
2) How many known variations are there for Rhinovirus A?
So you’re nothing more than the usual anti-vax liar, no surprise. Never did answer my question about Jenner’s treatment either. You know nothing, but you like to spout BS as though you have any facts (never seen you post a single citation, just junk).
You’re the brilliant scientist. If science can’t come up with a cure for the common cold(s) or a cure for cancer, what good are they. There are more people dying of cancer,and the protocols for curing cancer than ever before in history. Cancer was rare before the onslaught of vaccines and I am old enough to know that for a fact… so were autism, learning disabilities not caused by alcoholism and neurological damage
What you are saying is that scientists are so ignorant that nothing has improved. I agree with that! They are making things so much worse with their money making vaccine concoctions. Vaccines which are filled with aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, monkey viruses, aborted fetal tissue, polysorbate 80- and a host of other contaminants. What a great contribution to our world! Polysorbate 80 itself is known to cause infertility in lab animals. I know you know that, so why deny it?
Every citation you have ever posted is just garbage, with skewed data paid for by pharma. That stuff isn’t worth the paper it is written on.
I suppose you think it is a good idea to inject 98 million people with monkey cancer viruses, which have been proven to produce cancer in lab animals. Are you kidding me? People who have died from cancer, when autopsied, have been found to have SV40 in their tissues.
If putting cancer cells in vaccines is just an unfortunate mistake then all these negligent people should be in jail. If it was not a mistake they are evil and should be incarcerated. Government and scientists have no right to play around experimenting and injecting humans and animals with poisons. It is criminal. Remember the Nuremberg trials?
The only people who are living longer today are the people who haven’t been vaccinated to the max. The rest of the population is chronically ill, and /or learning disabled if they haven’t already died of SIDs.
Did you cut and paste that from Mike Adams?
Mike Adams knows a lot more than you do. He forgot more than you’ll ever know!
You know nothing about Dr. Jenner. I know he killed his son by experimenting with him and his son’s friend, too. That is all I need to know.
I have a question for you? Do you work for a living? How can you spend hours and hours of your time posting on this site. I am retired, so I have an excuse. When I was working I didn’t have one minute of extra time to blab on the internet.
“Mike Adams knows a lot more than you do. He forgot more than you’ll ever know!”
Mike Adams wouldn’t know a rectum from an oral cavity.
“You know nothing about Dr. Jenner”
You’re still incorrect on that one. My family still has Jenner items that weren’t donated to the Jenner museum. I think I probably know A LOT more about him than you ever will.
” I know he killed his son by experimenting with him and his son’s friend, too. That is all I need to know.”
Well, too bad you don’t know $h*t. You’re still wrong. You still can’t explain the vaccination method Jenner used and how that is different from today’s. But you sure do like to quote Mike Adams.
“I have a question for you? Do you work for a living?”
Maybe I am independently wealthy. Maybe I am homeless and spend the day in the library online. Maybe I am better with technology than you could ever dream of being.
” I am retired, so I have an excuse.”
being retired is no excuse for being an uninformed ignoramus. You remind me of my grandma, bitter evil old woman so stuck in her beliefs no matter how misguided. Listen grandma, there is a world of good information out there, I don’t know why you insist on reading the garbage. Maybe someone in your sewing circle or church group got you started on it, I don’t know.
“When I was working I didn’t have one minute of extra time to blab on the internet.”
Back then, you dialed in on a 28K baud modem and paid for an ISP by the hour and more than likely didn’t have access at work. Times sure have changed, haven’t they.
I know one thing for sure, if you work for a company you are cheating them and wasting your time and theirs with such garbage.
You are a very ignorant and uninformed individual, but one thing I can say about you is that you are persistent in your ignorance.
I don’t know why you seem to be so proud to be related to Dr. Jenner. He is a baby killer!
You have a very poor self esteem. I see this because you are trying so hard to be important in your field but in reality you know nothing. You do know, however, how to keyboard, because that is how you spend 99% your time. By this time, you should be an expert at snarky ignorant remarks, congratulations!
“I know one thing for sure, if you work for a company you are cheating them and wasting your time and theirs with such garbage”
Maybe I am simply very efficient and a valued member of my workplace. Maybe I have saved them more money than any single person that has ever been hired. So, maybe, they don’t care. Ever think about that? Nope, it would require thought.
Look grandma, you haven’t provided anything to support your points. Not one thing. I’ve posted actual facts and citations. You make assumptions about who I am and what I know, yet you haven’t shown yourself to know anything. I’ve asked you simple questions which you fail to answer.
Yes, I am proud to be related to Edward Jenner. He isn’t a baby killer. Maybe you are. No, actually, anyone that denies the usefulness of vaccines is a baby killer. Don’t bother responding, grams, unless you can provide something to support your useless position.
You act more like and old lady, grandma than I do. By the way are you a man or a woman? Real masculine men never write the whiney garbage that you write nor do they respond like you do.
I understand, now, that you are not working at all., You are making $ by being a shill for a vaccine company. You would never be valuable to any company you are too lazy to work!
Aww, grandma, did I hurt your feelings, because you’ve been the one whining, not me. Maybe gramps can pop a little blue pill, slather some KY on your dried out old cooze and go to town. Maybe that will lift your spirits.
Well, Mr. Pervert. Now you show your true colors. You are just an ignorant, narcissistic, homosexual pervert. You give a bad name to homosexuality.
Aw, a gay basher too. Look at my surprised face.
One out of two??? You don’t do well with facts, do you?
Look it up. I did not make this up! Actually, we all contain cancer cells. It is just a matter of time!
I have looked it up. Many times. It’s not even close to that. Current CDC data shows cancer I incidents are 491 per 100,000 people. In other words, 1 in 200… Not 1 in 2.
You know nothing about Dr. Jenner. You pretend you are so knowledgeable. Your posts don’t cut it!
I know nothing about Dr. Jenner? Hmm, I don’t think that’s the case. I can answer my own question, you can’t seem to. What does that say? Seems that you don’t know $h*t but you like to pretend.
My posts don’t cut it? No, those would be yours. Failure to cite anything, all you do is regurgitate garbage you have read on anti-vax sites. Mike Adams is your hero. You make these emotional pleas about killing and poisoning children, typical anti-vax scare tactics.
I bet you lied about being a teacher too.
“I bet you lied about being a teacher too.”
Ya think? LOL! Was there some kind of legislation passed where every nutter in an institution is entitled to some amount of internet access per day? Or was it a Circuit Court decision somewhere?
Is FEMA required to grant equal internet access to all those people at the internment camps?
I’m gonna need workers for my Hungarian corn production arbitrage plan. Might as well hire those with some computer skills, right?
Much like you get angry with non-farmers pretending to know something about it, so I get peeved at people that have never been in a lab working with bacteria and viruses but claim they know how horrible vaccines are.
I wouldn’t hire any of these people to work for you, they probably would get caught in the equipment. Then you’ve got to explain to authorities, possibly pay restitution to their families, etc. Much easier to hire locals in Hungary that would probably work hard and be happy to have a job since their economy is in the toilet.
Exactly. My sister is a pathologist – lab adminstrator at a relatively important Western U.S. hospital (not like Cedars Sinai; think northeast, but not where potatoes are king). According to her, as the lab equipment gets more sophisticated, the work comp injuries become more creative.
She actually has to lead workplace safety training where she is required to stick to the script that says to not stick the end of the coat hangers into the electrical outlets. I swear I’m not making this up. All driven by hospital administration and the insurance company so they don’t get tagged by OSHA. Because if one person sticks the coat hanger in the outlet, when the second one does, it becomes a “willful violation” in the eyes of OSHA.
Someone like me would say, “Just buy those big fat plastic coat hangers from Walmart, problem solved.” But everything in the lab has to have some kind of standards approval pedigree, so those Walmart coat hangers are a no-go. One lil’ chica filed a discrimination complaint against her when she was told no acrylic nail tips – too big of an infection control hazard. Discrimination because this lil’ chica was the only one in the lab with fake nails.
So in a way, I’m grateful to live where you can put your kid in a grain bin without any consequences – you know I’m kidding, but still…we probably have an average of 5+ grain bin fatalities every year which is inexcusable. Plus a couple of fatalities where someone backs a grain auger into a power line. And even with ROPS canopy requirements, we still lose at least a couple of people a year to tractor roll-overs. Ugh.
There is just no way to legislate against this stuff. We need a better educated populus. But spending on schools just supports teachers’ unions, so that’s a no-go…
OMG, OSHA and their “willful violations”. Been there with them.
I am actually surprised that there are that many grain bin fatalities. These can’t be people that have been around them all of their life, unless they are just too lackadaisical.
I agree, legislation isn’t the answer. We need to make people more accountable for their actions, rather than pandering to them through the court system. I worked for a company that had to pay for a guy that got “injured” on the job, which he claimed turned him into an alcoholic which made him impotent which made his wife leave him. The guy worked a total of 11 hours on the job and made off with 100K plus medical benefits for 10 years (the only consolation for me was that his huckster attorney got 60%). Years ago, that wouldn’t have been the case. My mother’s grandfather worked in a glass factory as the floor supervisor. He was crushed by a pane of plate glass that wasn’t properly secured in the lift clamps by 2 employees. Guess how much his widow got in compensation (this was 1948)? ZERO (not entirely true, the company had to pay funeral costs), when there clearly should have been compensation. If people stopped getting paid for stupid BS, the stupid BS would stop happening as much.
Employment law (and some maritime law and family law/probate stuff) is how my better half makes most of her money. So ya, I know what you’re saying. She does mostly defense, but once every 3 years or so, she is plaintiff’s attorney for a particularly interesting case. She got some sketchy woman perm-total disability and got 30% of the award. Which is more than I earn on the farm in an entire year. She tended the case for about 30 months, but still. She scored by watching the process and pounced. Good for her.
I need to figure out a way where I can host Caitlin Jenner, the rest of the Kardashians and that guy that did, “Ice, Ice Baby” on my farm and have them help me at harvest time. Something like “Survivor on Joe’s Farm”.
But who’s going to run that show, when there’s stuff about parking meter wars…
“I need to figure out a way where I can host Caitlin Jenner, the rest of the Kardashians and that guy that did, “Ice, Ice Baby” on my farm and have them help me at harvest time. Something like “Survivor on Joe’s Farm”.”
Maybe you could get Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie to revive their show “The Simple Life”. You just can’t actually have them do any work because it will cost you too much and I wouldn’t trust either of those crack ho’s on a tractor or combine.
BTW, you can’t have Vanilla Ice on your property because he steals stuff. I think he can work a back hoe and front loader, but they might come up missing when he leaves.
I would fully expect to have some NASA-approved bio-barrier before I let any on those people sit on my tractor seat.
You probably don’t know this, but tractors and combines these days have big enough cabs to have jump seats. And my mutt dog from the rescue league is the only one allowed on the jump seat. I don’t want my dog getting cooties from these people.
Tractors have jump seats? That’s nice that you can take the dog out with you, though. Does he get strapped in? I’d hate to see the dog jump out and get squished chasing a rabbit or something.
The only thing I really know about tractors and combines is from when I was young growing up with the farm kids. The one guy I went to school with, his grandpa had an arm ripped off in some farm accident, I think it was a thresher but I can’t remember anymore. I just remember he was missing the arm and the shoulder and it creeped me out.
Equipment cabs are fully enclosed these days, so no danger for the dog.
Take a look at the Case/IH or Deere websites. I think you’d be surprised how sophisticated equipment is these days.
That Deere 9X looks more like a tank than a piece of farm equipment. Is there a tank gun option for killing varmints??
You’d be surprised. A lot of the grain bin fatalities are men under 40. Who should know better, but everyone that’s ever worked on a farm knows that you have to cut some corners sometimes.
We are finally to the point where the Volunteer Fire Departments have some rescue equipment. Ideally, an RFD that responds to a bin accident is equipped with a quickie saw, where they can cut a triangular hole near ground level to drain the bin. But the full rescue squad is expensive, so the local FD has to call their mutual aid help. Then the guys that really attack, scramble up to the top of the bin with a 2 man crew, cut their way in and hopefully have a rescue tube. You can goo.gl grain bin rescue tube.
Going to funerals is one thing (creepy), but going to a farmer’s funeral that’s younger than you is pretty awful. Been there, done that, helped pay for the tombstone at the Lutheran cemetary, didn’t get a t-shirt.
What is even worse is when one man gets buried in a bin and another guy tries to help. Then you have two funerals in one week. There was a father and son fatality earlier this year, I didn’t know either of them, but…two widows and a bunch of children without fathers and a bunch of grandchildren without a grandpa. Ugh.
Don’t they teach this in school? I remember when I was in grade 6 or 7, we spent a half a day on why you should never go into a grain bin and the other half a day on why you should never carry a pre loaded weapon over rough terrain. They showed us horrible photos of blood coming out of the auger, and accidental shooting victims. They explained how to deal with bin bridging issues without going into the bin and how to unload and safely walk with weapons(rifles)
OK, I just watched a video on that. Kind of like drowning in grain, which is bad. I’d still prefer that to dying in a fire (or, worse, not dying in a fire). Why can’t they put a bulk head at the bottom to let the grain out in the event of an accident instead of having to cut a hole?
Grain exerts a lot of pressure against the walls of the bin, especially down low. Not simple to design an outswinging door that can resist the pressure. And people don’t really expect to need to use such a thing, so I guess that’s part of it, too.
I get the pressure thing, which would be why I asked about a bulk head, we use them in aquaculture systems (10,000+ gallons) so I know they can handle pressure. I guess I’m just a little surprised that OSHA doesn’t require some sort of safety device built in.
You have made 125 comments in 2 days, and you have only 75 upvotes. Your profile shows you have 18 followers and are following 21. So according to what your profile reveals you have received way less upvotes as your comments. I would say that no one gives a shiiiitt what you think!
And you’ve proven to be a stalker. Nobody cares what you think, since you never say anything of value. Personal attack, personal attack, personal attack. Go let your wife put you in your diapey and little pink dress with a pacifier before she spanks you.
Your a little stalk duster. Do you read you read joeys comment about your . America knows now. Cpersuasion
“Do you read you read joeys comment”
You must seem to think 1) it is a secret ( it is 2015, BTW, not 1967) 2) that I would care
Yes, I did read it. And did he say anything negative? Nope. You’re the one making a big deal out of it.
What happened in 1967? I only mentioned your boy joey outed you, that’s all. Get married.
What happened in 1967? They just made a movie about it. Again, you seem to think I care about being outed. Oh no. Everyone around me has known for over 20 years, it isn’t exactly a secret. Why would I marry Joe? You seem to think that I support gay marriage.
Read! Your getting a little sensitive…. Did I suggest you marry joey? So your gay and you don’t support gay marriage? What movie are talkin about? Your a joke!
Actually, I’m not getting sensitive at all. Obviously you’re getting a little excited with your little “Read!”.
I believe you did suggest I marry Joe when you said, “I only mentioned your boy joey outed you, that’s all. Get married.”
“What movie are talkin about?”
I’m sorry that you seem to live under a rock. Also, please use real sentences, not whatever that was.
“Your a joke!”
Why? Because I actually know things? I know it must be hard to live in whatever bubble you live in, but being educated and up to date on things is usually considered a positive quality.
Get a grip on reality. Stop, we are talkin GMO’s not your decision to maybe become Caitlyn 2
Nope, you weren’t talking about GMO at all. And since when does being gay equate to being trans? My you are a bigot, aren’t you?
Yes I do, if my comments against GMO’s have gone over your head’ then I guess your the one the one that’s in a closet!
Your reading comprehension is pretty abysmal. Allow me to refresh your memory as to how you weren’t discussing GMO at all, rather making a personal attack.
BTW, genius, the article you are commenting on here is about Donald Trump and vaccines. But you’re so brain dead you don’t even know where you’re commenting. Just stalking.
My upvotes come new internet friends that share my passion of safe food, that makes them awesome people! So now let’s’ look at your upvotes…….oops I don’t see any…oh wow. .don’t cry!
It isn’t a popularity contest to see who can get the most upvotes. If that is how you measure your personal value, you are a very sad individual. Working the internet cafe today?
The difference is no one pays me to express my opinion on eating safely!
Well, no one pays me to express my opinion either. Thankfully, your opinion carries about as much weight as a photon.
So if that’s true, why do you make 60-70 comments a day?
What difference does that make? You do know that you can comment from a phone, a tablet, a computer…wait, you’re only able to comment when you’re working the internet cafe. Well, here in the real world, you can comment wherever.
The real world? Wake up dopey, you are paid to comment on a dozen websites a day on articles that contain opposition to corporate view on GMO’s and glyphosate. If we are to believe you are not a paid shill and are working in another industry, then if I were your employer and found out you were spending all this time daily concentrating this much effort and time on GMO’s , I would fire you!
Nope, I am not paid a dime to comment, that is your fallacy. Again, please take note of the title of the article that you are commenting on. See the word GMO anywhere in there? DumbF**k
Got a citation for that?
Like you’ll read them? Please. But I’ll go ahead and post it anyway.
Yes, I read them. These are both mere opinions. Dr. Wile is not even a medical doctor. These citations were probably funded by the pharmaceutical industry.
Oh, OK. They give citations for the actual figures. BTW, you don’t have to be an MD (and preferably you wouldn’t be) to do statistical analysis. But, sure, they were funded by Big Pharma because Ann thinks so. Ann probably thinks the world is 6000 years old too.
It doesn’t take a a genius to realize that vaccines contain aluminum and mercury. These metals, especially when injected, destroy brain cells and nerve cells. This is common knowledge. This is scientifically proven. I am not even mentioning the other toxic garbage they put into vaccines.This has nothing to do with what I think. Even in tiny trace amounts of these metal do damage. What is the matter with you? Can’t you understand this basic principle?
No, I understand the reality of it, you seem to believe the whacko woo. In case you aren’t aware, your body processes trace toxins ALL the time. And only 1 vaccine still uses thimerosal, the Influenza A vaccine. Oh darn. And it isn’t scientifically proven that these things destroy brain and nerve cells. My brain still functions quite well. You probably avoid vaccines, so that is probably proof that not getting vaccinated actually damages brain cells.
But you know what the funniest part about your previous comment is? You state that what I cited was funded was by Big Pharma. Now, think for a minute Ann. Japan delayed the Tdap cycle, so kids were still getting it. So, delaying it wouldn’t actually cost Pharma any money in the longrun. So, even if every other country followed suit, they still get paid. So, they wouldn’t care one way or another what the schedule was.
You are stating your opinions as if it they were fact, which they not. Problem is the body is trying to process these heavy metals and directing them right to the brain and nervous system to do damage. Toxins are not good for the body.
Obviously your brain is not functioning well. There are so many “unintended consequences ” or maybe they are “intended” from being vaccinated that VAERS even admits it and has paid out BILLIONS in damages.
Pharma makes billions on their drugs whether one gets sick from vaccines or not. What the vaccine industry likes to do is cause illness via the vaccine and then cash in on the diseases they cause. It is a win- win situation for them. They are psychopaths! Vaccines are a “cash cow” for the government and for Pharma. Delaying vaccines doesn’t cost Pharma a dime!!
I’m sorry, is there something productive you can add that doesn’t come from a woo site?
There is nothing productive that you post. It is all a bunch of media lies and pharmacy propaganda to line their pockets at the expense of the people gullible enough and threatened enough to buy into “death by vaccines.”
Right. Stick to your ideology. There is no convincing the staunch luddite.
What a pile of woo. The amounts are so tiny that eating a rice grain size piece of tuna fish would give you more Mercury. You get more Aluminum from cooking pans and tinfoil (tinfoil is not just for hats, you know).
Any aluminum and mercury injected into a human being is damaging. Why would anyone in their right mind inject toxins into their body just because tuna fish contain toxic mercury? How stupid is that? Why would anyone want to add to the toxins already bombarding their immune system?
No some numbskulls, like you, enjoy injecting tin foil in the form of aluminum right into their brains. Go figure!
You obviously don’t know enough about science to carry on an intelligent conversation with, done.
And you do? What a laugh!!
Yup, usual tactics. When your science and evidence fails – as it always does – pull the Shill Gambit.
True science and evidence does not fail. Your skewed science and evidence does, however!
Where is your science?
…and yet it is evidently clear you are not familiar with the scientific evidence on this so that’s quite an accusation to make there!
Ignorance is bliss. You don’t treat patients. You have no first hand knowledge. Therefore, you should really not speak. Only a fool argues a point without first hand experience. Second, if you heard of 100 people getting sick from eating at a certain chain restaurant, you wouldn’t go there. That’s common sense. However, hundreds of thousands of kids who are perfectly healthy just prior to a vaccine then neurologically decomensate afterwards, and you are saying that it doesn’t raise concern? Well, if that’s the case, then educating you would be analogous to teaching a pig math. It’s a waste of time and annoys the pig.
No one is stopping YOU from vaccinating your loved ones. Go right ahead and do it. Like in the restaurant scenario, if most people going there are getting sick, then I opt not to eat there, where you can go ahead and continue eating there.
Jennifer Litton Tidd
If you choose not to vaccinate your children, then you’re putting their lives in danger. Your choice. The link between autism and vaccines was proven false over a decade ago, and the doctor who propagated the falsehood was arrested in the UK in 2002 for fraud.
Proven false by false medical propaganda? The same propaganda which comes from the medical establishment that kills more people with medical errors and side effects than the diseases themselves? This false propaganda would have nothing to do with making money now would it? You really have no idea of the history of medicine. You might want to look at the true reason for the Flexnor report which was to decrease competition. Sure is interesting how the USA had over 1000 homeopathic pharmacies and dozens of homeopathic colleges along with a plethora of natruopathic medical schools at the turn of the century, all of which were flourishing until this report came out with much falsified information. The medicine worked just as well and colloidal silver worked. Interesting about silver, it’s used in many areas of medicine except internally and topically to kill infections because it competes with monetary value. But….it sure does well being used for a catheter tips to prevent infection or on burns. I guess they’ll cherry pick how to use the effectiveness of natural medicine.
By the way, how is that allopathic medicine is embracing holistic medicine when it doesn’t work? In fact, the existence of holistic medicine and its increasing number of schools, people studying it, using it, MD’s converting over, is all a sign that the current system is an abysmal failure. The ONLY reason allopathic medicine is acknowledging some of its benefits is because too many people began leaving the pen/system, so they branded the term “integrative” medicine because too many people were seeking “alternative” medicine. Now, give the people what they want, begin to allow ND’s to accept insurance and they still control the dog and pony because they still dictate how medicine is practiced.
I could go on and on, but you are so incredibly full of your own ignorance that you are unable to be helped. The sad thing is, is that your children have paid dearly for it.
Jennifer Litton Tidd
but I suppose you give away your natural quackery away from free as a public service, then, yes? I mean since you’re so stridently opposed to people in the medical profession making a profit?
No one is forcing people to get vaccines, we just don’t want you in our communities getting people at risk sick from the stupidity. Stay home, order in, work from home, home school, and stay away from us 🙂
Jennifer Litton Tidd
There are a lot of grifters and snake-oil sales-men who claim they have cures for autism, digestive flushes and all kinds of nonsense. I suspect that’s what this grifter does, makes money off of parents of children with autism, by lying to them and claiming she has a cure, taking their money, when their money is FAR better spent on behavioral and occupational therapy. I have two children on the Autism Spectrum and have long been an activist for the rights of people with Autism. too many dishonest grifters are out there selling false hopes and fake cures to turn a buck. I imagine there is a special place in hell for people who lie and cheat families who have a child on the Autism Spectrum. These “treatments” should be illegal and banned by the FDA, something I’ve been working on.
There is ill intentioned people in every aspect of life including all professions. Fact is, there are no cures, there is only a restoration of balance within the homeostatic systems. If you are balanced, you can’t have symptoms. If you don’t have symptoms, you can’t have a diagnosis. That’s how it works! But you have bought into the philosophy of modern medicine where it is completely inept when it comes to treating chronic disease. Fact is, Autism has been reversed in people. You just don’t know about it because you hang with the wrong crowd.
Jennifer Litton Tidd
How fucking DARE you tell me about MY children and their diagnoses? You’re a grifter and a quack, who seems to resent anyone with actual credentials to practice medicine.
I agree. I think there is a special place in Hell for people who vaccinate little children.
Jennifer Litton Tidd
and an even more special place in hell for people who put their children’s lives at risk by not vaccinating their children.
Considering that I attended allopathic medical school 15 years ago, have practiced it for 15 years, attended both naturopathic and chinese medical school, I’d say I’m rather adept in medicine. I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever see in your life. Anyone can parrot what the establishment wants them to know, that’s easy. And anyone can argue about something they have read but have no actual working knowledge of the subject. And that is what we call a fool. And you are just that, a fool.
You have, apparently, more than forgotten almost everything important about medicine, since you are now referring to it with the homeopath’s propoganda term “allopathic”, which they use to help their faithful believe that medicine (like homeopathy) has learned nothing in 200 years. Alt med training will do that to you… Anyone can parrot their beliefs. Come back when you actually care whether those beliefs are true or not.
So, do you think that water has “memory”?
Education has dropped, IQ levels are down, and gullible people are willing to grasp at anything -but the internet becoming commonplace is why quacks are getting more customers.
And people are dying because of it.
Cognitive dissonance is on the rise.
As a responsible health professional I am sure you would not make any fear mongering type claims, and that ” hundreds of thousands of kids who are perfectly healthy just prior to a vaccine then neurologically decomensate afterwards” … is something you can provide reference for?
Jennifer Litton Tidd
the restaurant analogy is ABSURD, especially because of the literally MILLIONS of human beings who have been prevented from serious and fatal diseases on this planet because of vaccines. Look at the death rates of curable and preventable diseases in countries in the third world who aren’t vaccinating children. You’re irresponsible and shouldn’t get anywhere near children. I have two children on the Autism Spectrum, it’s GENETIC. My father was autistic, so was his father. It comes down through families strongly.
You’re ignorant when it comes to medicine, and that is understandable because you don’t treat people. You simply parrot what you hear the establishment tells you. So, I would not expect anything different.
Let me educate you as to what happens on the ground level. Children who were perfectly healthy their entire life (aside from common colds and ear infections) then get vaccinated and immediately decompensate neurologically. You are telling me that is genetic? There is no genetic disease that is triggered by a single event like Autism is by vaccines.
Interesting that your Grandfather had Autism when the term wasn’t used until the 1940’s. And it was still in its infancy. Regardless, professionals that I know who treat a lot of Autism, have completely reversed it when they catch it early, and still when not caught early they are still able to reverse many of the symptoms. Due to your own ignorance and inability to do research on the ground level, rather than parroting money driven false science and media with a financial tie to the medical establishment, you have allowed your children to remain injured.
The irony is that you have no medical experience, have never worked along side physicians who treat Autistic kids who claim to reverse their symptoms, but yet you pound your chest that you know all. Only a fool argues about something they have no first hand knowledge of.
Better diagnosis? So where are all the 30 year old autistics wearing diapers and helmet’s? A complete joke…
You don’t really know what “autism” actually means then. Going by today’s definition of “autism”, some of them designed the computer you are using and the car you drive.
A ‘hate group’ is a bad thing when they’re hating innocent people. But hating something that’s wrong, and forming a group to do so, is actually a good thing. “Oh they hate something. Therefore don’t listen to them.” I don’t see how that’s even an argument. It’s more like an attempt to shut down an argument.
Likewise with playing semantic games with the word ‘tragedy.’ People with ASD are not the tragedy. People having ASD is the tragedy. Are you saying that if there was a cure for ASD, you would refuse it for your child? That’s not parenting, that’s psychotic.
What about all the lies from the CDC about vaccines and Autism? Why are vaccine companies exempt from liability? What are they and the corrupt beyond belief govt hiding???? Enough $$$$$$$ to cover up anything
10 naturopathic doctors and 5 chiropractors have been s.uicided between June and August 2015. They were collaborating and getting ready to publish regarding the definite link. Do searches on n.agalase and gc.maf
Yes, convince yourself that your child is a gift and perfectly amazing. I hope you live forever to take care of your special child. Parents in the 50s were so dumb that they couldn’t tell there was something wrong with their children according to you. And according to you, Autism is apparently something you can outgrow because hey, there aren’t many 50 and 60 year old autistics around. They must have outgrown it or they’re all dead. I wouldn’t want to blame myself either for harming my child so I understand your stance.
Jennifer Litton Tidd
Autism Speaks doesn’t support the vaccine-causal conspiracy theory. Autism Speaks has done more to get treatment for people on the spectrum than any other organization in my lifetime. I have 2 of four of my children on the AutismSpectrum and it’s much easier to get my 6 year old with Autism treatment now that it was to get my 23 year old son with Autism when he was young. And for some people, like my 6 year old, who cannot speak and probably will never speak, Autism is a debilitating issue in this life. We’re working with it best we can and Autism Speaks helped us pass laws in Virginia, wherein, now he is covered. Try not to spread lies and hyperbolic nonsense about an organization you don’t seem to know much about. Fine, share your own negative experiences, but don’t publicly attribute a position to them, that they do not perpetuate or propagate.
See, the problem with this is that autism is listed as an adverse effect in the vaccine inserts.
I know first hand that autism is on the rise because I have taught for over 30 years and I saw it rise with my own eyes. Autism has such obvious overt symptoms that any teacher can tell you that it started to rear its ugly head in the 80s and got worse every year after. When I first started teaching I had 38 kids in my class and not one had autism. The teachers did not see the classic signs of autism and never heard of it. When kids start coming in with autism, everyone was baffled. We were told that these symptoms and behavior were attributed to mothers who did not want their children. What a lie that was!
Wouldn’t it be better if he had the FIRST CLUE what he was talking about, though, when he raised the issue? Millions of families deserve better than reckless fear mongering. Reckless fear mongering is only good for Trump.
Autism is not an infectious disease and therefore cannot be an epidemic.
He speaks for millions of ignorant morons that should be quarantined.
Yeah..the best you have…LOLOLOLOL…He (along with numerous others) are fed up with the LIES coming from the medical profession..all backed by bogus research. What about the 430,000 deaths/year in hospitals…MD errors???
Pipe down REVELLINGINBULLSHIT.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
Those of us who remember when polio, diphtheria, smallpox, measles, rubella, and TB killed thousands annually know you are talking nonsense. And furthermore, if you *ever* allow your children into a motor vehicle of any kind, that is proof enough you have no concept whatsoever of risk.
Well said Neill!! Jeanne, for the love of the sweet Lord, lay off the Kool-Aid!!!
I am one who contracted measles, mumps and rubella and so did my brothers and sisters(7) of them. Kids in our school and neighborhood also got these diseases and guess what? Not one was hospitalized and not one died. My parents didn’t even take us to the doctor.
On the other hand I know plenty of vaccine injured children and so does VAERS. They paid out billions in vaccine damage. Get educated.
Well you’re very lucky then Ann! But just because this applies to you and your family does NOT mean it applies to others!! These [vaccine preventable] diseases have killed people. If I was to give your family smallpox, and you could choose that they have a vaccination before hand…or not…which would you choose??
All these people, including me are just very lucky? That is ridiculous! By the way, Dr. Jenner, creator of the small pox vaccine, killed his own son with this vaccine. The vaccine never prevented small pox. Small pox was on the wane before the vaccine was ever introduced into the population.
Not at all true Ann. While other practices such as hygiene helped, vaccinations are the only reason small pox has been eliminated completely from the wild. Polio is heading the say way, also due to vaccinations, but is hanging on in a few remote areas due to religious crazies stopping people from vaccinating. I’m not sure what your sources are, but they are not to be trusted, and they don’t have your or anyone else’s interests at heart.
if you haven’t read this already, please do…I’m worried for you Ann x
Polio has been caused by the vaccine itself. It is dangerous.
Send me proof that vaccines prevent disease.
Look up how Dr. Jenner killed his own son with his small pox vaccine.
Read how SV40 ( cancerous monkey virus) was injected into 98,000,000 Americans in the 1950s, 60s and beyond. Google it instead of calling me a liar. Now, we are paying the price…cancer is epidemic. Ever ask yourself,why? Even when it was discovered that the vaccine contained SV40, they continued to use the vaccine up because they didn’t want to waste $. They wanted to make money at the expense of the people.
I would not give vaccine to a dog.
Posting your information and lies are doing a grave disservice to people who may believe your posts.
Wow so vaccines are responsible for all cancer now?? What about the moral degradation for society as well??
You’ve been brainwashed by lies Ann, simple as. It is an undisputed fact that there is no way the smallpox virus could have been eliminated from the wild, if it wasn’t for vaccines. Like, it doesn’t make sense how it could have been eliminated otherwise…remember it is a virus so antibiotics have no effect on it. Improved hygiene awareness aside (which was only ever going to be a contributing factor), how do you think we eliminated it completely from the wild?? And it has been, so the proof of the pudding really is in the eating.
Again, you are wrong about polio, you must question your sources more, for the they definitely do not have you or anyone else’s interests at heart. Recent news, Africa has now been polio free for a year…this has largely been achieved (and is a great achievement) by a rigorous vaccination programme. Again, as in the case of smallpox, this is an undisputed fact, and it wasn’t Jesus or magic or anything else that eliminated the virus…it was via vaccination.
I wish there was a vaccine for ignorance Ann, because you could do with a shot or two of that…
I wish you would study SV40 and where it came from. I wish you would realize that polio has not been eradicated anywhere in the world. I wish you would realize that viruses run their course. Yes, there are no antibiotics for viruses and injecting people with the virus does not prevent the virus from occurring. We just had an outbreak of “whooping cough” and every person who contracted it was vaccinated. You need to do more research instead of aping everything the mainstream, pharma controlled media tells you!
You are just plain ignorant to the core!
We’re going to need a BULL dozer here.
I would not choose the vaccine because vaccines do not prevent disease. They never have.
That is a purely ridiculous thing to say. The overwhelming medical scientific consensus is that vaccines have been an incredibly positive breakthrough and have saved millions of lives, and millions still die from disease they could easily prevent through vaccinations. There is absolutely no shred of logic or common sense to back up your wild claim.What on Earth have you been smoking Ann?!? I’d lay off if I were you!!
Post one study that confirms that vaccines prevent disease. You can’t because there is no proof. Bill Gates just caused 48,000+ children to be paralyzed in India and 10,000 deaths via the polio vaccine. Do you call that saving lives? What have you been smoking?
Do your own research, why should I do it for you? Of course vaccinations prevent disease, why do you think they are used??
“Bill Gates just caused 48,000+ children to be paralyzed in India and 10,000 deaths via the polio vaccine.” …this is simply a flat out lie. Why do you think I’m going to respect your view on the situation if you not only ignore facts but just make stuff up as well?? Appalling conduct Ann you should be ashamed of yourself.
Bill Gates also did his dirty vaccine inoculations in Nigeria and caused untold devastation. You need to get yourself informed.
He’s a troll Ann…just ignore him..he is acting like a shark on Whiskey.
His name should be shark with a tinhat with pinholes in it…you are right..he’s been smoking something…
You are a plant. A troll here to do what trolls for Pharma do.
Fear monger That’s all you are. Where is your SCIENCE?
Life is about risk…also, what happened to all the BS you embrace with Darwinism…”only the strong survive”? Why don’t you speak out against the 430,000 hospital deaths due to “errors” ? This estimate doesn’t include the vaccine errors…You are welcome to as many vaccines you want..have at it..and pack and go EAST..most that have these brain deficits live in the EAST…Thank GOD Trump is bringing this into the light…
Troll ideology. Yawn, I’m so tired of seeing this rubbish stated as a reason to not examine why so many parents claim after a series of vaccines my child was never the same. And Yes the correlation argument. Odd how many feel correlation is a place to halt rather than a place to start. Especially vaccine proponents.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
Pointing to the feeble job most humans do at risk assessment isn’t troll-like, further more as a father of two boys with ASD diagnoses I’m hard pressed to see what all the hand-ringing and wailing is about, one is 2/3rd through a 4 year Maths degree the other is aceing triple science and maths in high school, play to their strengths and ASD is a asset, not a disability. Futhermore, the experiment has been done, in Japan on a massive scale over many years. There is no link between the MMR vaccine and ASD.http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x/abstract;jsessionid=22F387FE8A73D1B13E2A9296B1D3AF7D.f01t03
You are fortunate IF your children can function well. Does that imply all do? No, so why say so? And because Japan is altering people in an experiment its a good thing? Maybe you are a few bricks shy of a load.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
If you had read the study (and on your 20 years of study I’m suprised you missed it) you would know it covered a time span that went from routine MMR vaccination, through declining MMR vaccination to zero MMR vaccinations, and there was shown no change in ASD rates. Conformation bias stopped that one making it into your reading list? A bit more research would have told you that Merck developed the vaccine and sell it as MMR-II and GSK licence it and sell it as Priorix.
Well if you weren’t so impudent you’d say what you mean. And because you are clueless, you don’t know what actually took place in Japan. Yes they stopped the MMR, but then they gave single doses at the same visit. They make you look like a genius.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
So is it GSK MMR that’s the problem or not, because they stopped that long ago, and have never reintroduced a rubella vaccine into the schedule. Ad hominem, composistion/division, false cause, special pleading – you really cover the logical fallacies bases in your debates!
Prove GSK has stopped making an MMR.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
“They” being the Japanese. Try and keep up. The Japanese stopped MMR and have never reintroduced a rubella vaccine into the schedule. So does your tin foil hat extend to all vaccines? How about antibiotics, anagesia, antidepressants or anticoagulants? Or are you strictly a leech and willow bark man?
Again, your inability to make yourself understood is at the forefront.
Whatever other nonsense you are making some ludicrous mention about isn’t of interest to me troll
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
Well, I can only dumb it down so much, English is hard and the scientific method is harder still. Well done, though. Shame though as I nearly had logical fallacy bingo, you popped out a “tu quoque” at the end to follow up a “genetic” and a “personal incredulity”.
No you’re showing that you’ve hit rock bottom. Any dumbing down will benefit Troll Nation’s other minions and make you a hero.
Neill “Dire” Mitchell
Oh come on – you’ve done tu quoque and ad hominem already – I was hoping for an Appeal to Emotion (or maybe your username is that already?) – I almost missed your furtive fallacy earlier, so combined with your overarching kettle logic, you might just be the worse debater (from a logic perspective) I’ve encountered. Reminiscent of that old “Playing chess with a pigeon” idiom.
I don’t debate reprobates. I merely toy with their ignorance and folly.
You don’t know how to debate, to debate requires some vague semblance of intelligence. I’ve not yet seen any evidence of intelligence or ability to debate coming from you.
Are you mirror gazing again?
Neil is correct though…you are the ignorant troll here, just so you and everybody else is clear.
That makes both of you wrong.
He is very clear. You warble on talking drivel continuously…you are in no position to be making accusations IgnorantDad.
Your opinion = WHO CARES!
I’m a proponent of making a vaccine for stupidity and ignorance and injecting your dumbass, pronto!!
Well you’ll then have to visit an emergency room to have at least one broken arm set and your nose rebuilt. Can’t wait. Plus you’ll never get to the injecting unless you fall on it. Then you’ll see the errors of your way.
Question, do you not have a life, or are you being paid to troll? Wait, agencies do not engage in such behavior, right? Fact is, you have no credibility since you hide behind your keyboard with some fictitious profile. Your opinion means absolutely nothing. Case closed.
when my son was born hbe was colicy but that was it, otherwise appeared to be healthy. he played as he grew older etc, like normal. then at age 3 he got a scheduled dose of vaccines and suddenly within weeks had stopped palying altogether. it was heartbreaking to watch and i was confused why he wouldnt play like normal but in all other ways he astill appeared healthy. it wasnt until he turned 5 that he began developing more serious symptoms of asperger’s, adhd, ocd, and tourrettes. due to not being fully aware of the vaccine debate at that time i cannot recall when his other vaccinations occured in relation to when he was diagnosed with the aspergers, adhd, ocd, and tourrettes, but i do recall the not playing at age 3 being the first sign in relation to vaccines because it was the first thing that happened and was so out of character it just stuck in my memory more even though i didnt realize it was likely vaccine related till many years later. but my son isnt the only one in th efamily effected. my nephew is austistic, more so than my son was, and if he was not as lucky as he was to get proper early diagnosis and treatment rehabilitation he likely would be unable to speak at this time. he is now 5 years old. when i was about 4 years old, i remember for a time span of about a month i would sit and rock for no apparewnt reason for hours but i didnt know why i was driven to do that. i did snap out of it after that month. my mom had told me that episode happened shortly after a vaccine dose but they didnt realize the possible connection at the time. its possible it could have effected me in other undiagnosed ways as well. of course doctors still deny vaccines are dangerous and this enrages me.
I hear ya. Vaccines made you allergic to capital letters…don’t want that happening to my children.
What a dick thing to say. You should be proud.
Yeah, that is kind of dick.
New Deal – Air Soul!
Cool, another idiot that did zero research or they’d have found out the supposed “doctor” that spread all this vaccine bullshit was a quack and a fraud with NO proof other than his own bias and made up most of what he said to scare people. Glad I got my vaccines so I won’t get polio, measles, whooping cough or any other diseases that these anti-vaccine dumbasses are suddenly getting and spreading.
In short, fuck uneducated, ill-informed, lazy dipshits that take everything as gospel because they’d rather be spoon-fed lies than do any actual research. Our country is DOOMED.
Nice job defining what an ignorant moron is. So supply your proof. Remember personal opinion is like a buttcrack, everyone has one, and some are one.
Yeah but all you have is personal [bullshit] opinion!! You’ve contributed ZERO evidence to support your view, So are you are definitely an ignorant moron, and that’s being polite bubba!!
So you think that’s polite? You probably think its meaningful and intelligent. Buh Wah Ha Ha So dumb.
Ussula; listen only to those that matter in your life.
In truth, you cannot tell if the posts below mine are actually from real humans or not. (I consider politicians for the most part to be anti-humans). Anyway, YOu know your life, you know what’s going on and even IF the posts below come from genuine people, their knowledge is not genuine; disinformation. It’s unuseful because any beLIEfs that require such vulgarity as the ones below, are inherently worthless. If you let them stop you from learning the truth, then you are the only one who loses. Never stop. never falter, never fade. Fuck those who go against the truth of experiences; they are unimportant in this reality. let them out of your life.
See, this is the problem with democracy: you could be a medical professional with 20 years of experience, who has saved hundreds of lives. But when it comes to making a decision on vaccines, your vote will only weigh as much as any of these untutored, anti-vaccination morons. (The same applies to other things, like economic decisions).
Go EAST and keep your vaccinated body away from us…we don’t want your garbage!!! You can have them all…
RVELLINGINBULLSHIT you wouldn’t know the truth on this matter if came and injected itself directly into your brain you ignorant misguided fool.
You can have all the vaccines you want…and they are free at Mac’s with a happy meal…loooooool…U first Shark with tinfoil….loooool…They are FREEE….Bahahahahaha
Where’s your evidence? Oh yea you NEVER supply any, you just insult
One of the basic tenets of the medical profession is: First Do No Harm.
Yet the pharmaceutical companies have been granted immunity from prosecution and the US government has formed a special, separate court system that has handed out almost 3 BILLION dollars for damage caused by vaccines.
Or from CBS News – Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award. This case was originally sealed, so I ask you how many similar cases have been adjudicated that we don’t know about because they have been sealed?
Just as a comparison, deaths cause as a result of automobile accidents were 33,804, compare that to the deaths cause by preventable medical errors. Are you safer riding in your car or visiting your doctor?
So now a civil court award is proof of wrong doing? Add “the US civil justice system” to the list of things you don’t understand.
The fact is that if US lawyers were allowed free action against the medical profession, nobody could afford to practice medicine.
How would you feel about doing your job, if someone could sue you for millions of $ for a decision which *they* decided , after the fact, was incorrect? And if the verdict was to be decided by a jury that doesn’t actually understand what you do?
Maybe you should read a book!
The vaccine court is not a civil court, it is part of the United States Court of Federal Claims and is conducted by a Special Master and has no jury.
The rules of evidence are far more restrictive than a civil court and only a small number of claims actually make it through the gauntlet to be presented to the court and ruled on.
You might also want to take a look at Bruesewitz v. Wyeth that upheld the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 which established the court because of vaccine’s unavoidable adverse side effects.
OK, fair enough, I’ll have a look at that. Meanwhile, maybe you can work out an estimate of how many billions it would cost for treatment if, say, nobody was vaccinated for measles.
There is no question that there *are* sometimes adverse effects from vaccines. But autism is not one of them.
How would I feel? I would make SURE that I was practicing according to TRUTH..with legit testing..NO MORE HARM!!!…Yes, bring the suit to the MD’S…they are now the filthy elite..and need to be flushed!!!THEY LIE…
First of all, nobody gets anywhere in American politics unless they are in sync with the Powers That Be. Trump may be a billionaire but even he can’t go against the will of the ruling elite. But maybe it’s the ruling elite that’s had a change of heart. They’re sitting up there on top and it’s finally getting through to them that their corrupt minions in government and corporations are wrecking the country with greed in terms of illegal immigration, mandatory vaccinations, and GMOs. How to radically change course without losing face? Have one of their own Billionaire Boys run as a ‘maverick.’ Just don’t expect Trump to do any favors for you that don’t benefit the people at the top.
When one sees a pattern, they recognize it. This is pattern recognition.
Even pro vaccine individuals can’t deny this. it’s really simple.
Now, when something seems to happen in relation to an event ONCE, it is impermissible. it isn’t really a fact at that point.
However, when thousands of identical cases appear, and evidence is shown to prove the link between two events… Then the denial of such a thing is exemplary of hubris ignorance.
So, with BOTH of my children, and EVERY parent I have talked to, vaccines only cased damage, and now mine can’t even talk anymore, and others suffered similar injuries. One girl couldn’t use her left hand after her injections: she was left handed before this. Another boy was unable to balance while running after a series of shots.
It has been at least 1 year since these shots where administered. one child got the diseases anyway, and none of the adverse effects have subsided. now, I understand that I was lied to and tricked before and taken for money I spent hours of my life to obtain through gainful employment.
Having tunnel vision and ignoring the hard facts and evidence, is NOT intellectual; rather it’s the mindset of a loser. the mindset of one who has been perfectly lead to beLIEve that they can know nothing at all so long as they read small bits of articles and journals from sources they beLIEve they can trust.
The truth here is this:
those against vaccines are clearly victims of heinous crimes; crimes of a particular type that shouldn’t even exist.
Those FOR vaccines are a victim of identical crimes, with just one additional malady: Stockholm’s Syndrome. Where they not only suffer all that the rest of us suffer: They also have been duped into beLIEving that their suffering is either negligible, worth the risk in favor of avoiding a disease few of them have ever come across in reality outside of books and Internet articles, or non-existent due to their severe lack of true understanding of human purpose and functionality. Sure, they might know a few words and have memorized some or even all of the terms and agreed-upon functions… but little to none of it is actually real or true.
I don’t care if you (the current reader) are for against disease injections, or even for or against me. Both are sets of emotional standpoints, and neither matter at all. Not even a little bit.
Just ask yourself a few simple questions:
“Did I learn what I think I know on my own; or through reading or talking to someone who is in the current alopathic field?”
“Does an alleged slight increase of imperceptible knowledge account for the dramatic increase of cases of diseases known to this earth? if so, what knowledge and how?”
“Am I helping or hurting others and myself by beLIEving what I think is true; could I prove it to anyone with a functional mind?”
“Did the origins of humanity call for diseases to be put into a tube with other chemicals and syringed into myself or my child?”
“Have I watched a vaccine being produced? Can I prove what is in them?”
“Does my child laugh, or scream when injected?”
“does my child seem happier after a hug? or after being injured?”
“could the native americans have died from things other than the alleged diseases and then the death situation hijacked; could someone have lied about how they died?”
Did I spend equal amounts of unbiased time learning about allopathy, homeopathy, and naturopathy from artisans in the respective fields and their personal work for guidance? or did I learn less than 50% of one or two, and then hold prejudice against what I didn’t understand?
“What am I doing by pushing my beLIEf on others?”
“Who am I?”
If you cannot answer every question, you have no business whining about how you are for or against anything for any reason.
If you don’t have time to do this; you also have no business in this discussion.
I make no claims in this post.
I pose no challenge in this post.
I have one challenge to pose to anyone who is pro vaccination upon request only.
I apologize for any grammatical errors that render potential readers so crippled as to eliminate their ability to read and infer. you have my deepest condolences for your suffering and damage.
A+++ Trump will go against the elite and has already…he is a chess player…this move with vaccines is a GREAT VOICE for all…thank you for voicing your story…
I wish there was a vaccination for ignorance and bigotry…and then I wish Donald Trump could get a MASSIVE shot of this.
Please don’t vote Trump America, you will forever obliterate my already crumbling faith in the human species…
And here we go again.
Jennifer Litton Tidd
What a moron. The doctor who did this study linking autism to the MMR vaccine was arrested in the UK for fraud over a decade ago and can no longer practice. The science is in on this issue and it’s overwhelmingly, by a 99.9% margin, against this link. Even so, if he really knew anything about the subject, he’d also know that the vaccine in question was BANNED in the United States in 2004. I have two children of my 4 kids on the autism spectrum and I resent like HELL when FOOLS like this continue perpetuating this myth. It takes attention off the REAL causes and away from possible cures. This man proves over and over and over every single day he is just way too ignorant to be a presidential contender.
Sandi Hornsby White
Baby Killers! The Who .org Sales Promotion PDF from 2015-2025 is to focus on middle income families and initiating Congressional, State, and Heads of Countries legislation to force vaccines. Sales Pitch, “Come buy or sponsor our vaccines for trillions in shared profits with us.” Soon Russia and Cuba will be sourcing and making our vaccines and shipping them into the USA through the TTP. Donald made it an issue or the GOP would be railroading Americans into another dooms day. Who’s minding the show. Should we ask about quality controls and shipping and storage conditions? Forcing vaccines in the school system guarantees residual income. The more vaccines imposed….the more money. The CDC, FDA, AMA, and Big Pharma are the medical mafia. Do You suppose that Nazi Merck really cares about our high infant mortality rate and first day infant mortality rate in America. It’s about the money and using our children as guinea pigs. Italy, France, and Spain are cleaning up in personal lawsuits for Autism and deaths and physical permanent impairment. But, not American parents, they must foot the bill for their damaged children, and the Vaccine Court that gives very few settlements.
It is so important to talk about this subject and what mainstream media and medicine industry are trying to cover up. So much proof has surfaced about the dangers of vaccination, I’m glad to see that at least one of the candidates in the presidential race has stepped up and is bringing more awareness into the subject. Go Trump! Everyone, get your gear at trumptshirt.com!
He is not a doctor or pharmacist. He should stick to policy ideas he has some actual knowledge of rather than going out on limbs such as this one.
So glad he is standing up for the patriots rights to freedom of CHOICE…go EAST..you will find your kind living there..most in NJ/NY/IL..they love vaccines…we don’t want the “weakened” near us…ugh!!! No autism in the non-vax…hmmm……
Thank you Mr.Donald Trump
There is no way that I can vote for anyone else now.At first I was skeptical about you Mr.Trump.Because of how you backed out after Slapping obama around durring the last election.But now while my wife sets in another country waiting for a visa and our government plays games with us while at the same time several people in our government are fighting tooth and nail for those who came to the US illegally. No one in our government is fighting for me even though I’ve paid taxes ever since I was 17 years old the year I had to drop out of school to get a job.And I have been screaming for years on deaf ears about how I took my son to get his childhood vaccines and how his life has never been the same since that day. I have been his only voice since he cannot speak because of this dreadful brain disorder called autism .Till now that is.WOW Thank you Mr.Trump.And after seeing what has happened to our country and to my family over the last several years I have often question if there is even a God anymore.But if there is I pray to him that he makes you the next president of the United States.Because WE deserve it.God bless you and your family Mr.Trump.And thank you for being our voice.
Stacy Lane Goodson
I will relent, that, in Trump’s case, brain damage may have occurred. He’s the 1 in a million.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TrionfiTarot Jim Wickson
What’s the difference between Austrian Tarock and the GOP primary?
In Austrian Tarock, the Fool is the highest trump.
In the GOP primary, the Trump is the lowest fool!
School children in Mexico injured by Gardasil and Cervarix vaccines.
This happened 8/31/15.
These are severe neurological injuries which, without appropriate
treatment to reverse aluminum poisoning and viral reactivation, may last
for the duration of the children’s lives.
Japan has halted the use of Gardasil and is suing Merck for lying about its safety and efficacy studies.
The U.S. Government is moving in the opposite direction; moving toward mandating the vaccine for school attendance.
What’s the difference? Japan cares about children. The United States’
politicians care about the money they receive from pharmaceutical
The media paraphrasing again. Listen to the interview and read the entire quote.
Even Trump knows more than aul PrOffit. At least he has common sense and suggests the way we currently vaccinate should be examined. Vac Pushers and Vac Pimps want to go headlong and babies be dammed with more and more , while denying the carnage.
V. Thirty Years of Rapidly Decreasing Vaccination in Leicester, and its
(1) The great manufacturing town of Leicester, with nearly
200,000 inhabitants, affords the most conclusive proof of the uselessness of
vaccination that it is possible to have; and the doctors and government
officials carefully avoid dealing with it except to prophecy evils which have
never come to pass.
Down to 1872 Leicester was one of the most completely vaccinated
towns in the kingdom, the number of vaccinations, owing to alarm after
epidemics, several times exceeding the number of births. Yet in 1871, at the
very height of its good vaccination record, it was attacked by the epidemic
with extreme severity, its small-pox deaths during that year being more than
3,500 per million of the population, or about a thousand per million more than
the mortality in London during the same epidemic. If ever a test experiment
existed it is this of Leicester, where an almost completely vaccinated
community suffered more than unvaccinated and terribly insanitary London, on
the average of the last forty years of the eighteenth century.
But even more conclusive evidence is to come.
(2) That fearful mortality destroyed the faith of Leicester in
vaccination. Poor and rich alike, the workers and even the municipal
authorities began to refuse vaccination for their children. This refusal
continued till, in 1890, instead of 95 per cent. the vaccinations reached only
5 per cent. of the births! [[p. 17]] As this ominous decrease of vaccination
went on the doctors again and again prophesied against it, that once small-pox
was introduced it would run through the town like wildfire and decimate the
population. Yet it has been introduced again and again, but it has never
spread; and from that day to this no town in the kingdom of approximately equal
population has had such a very low small-pox mortality as this almost
completely unvaccinated and–as the doctors say–unprotected population! Surely
this completes the demonstration that vaccination, instead of preventing,
increases the liability to small-pox, and that the only way to abolish the
disease is to do as Leicester did, leave off vaccination altogether and devote
our energies to sanitation, and the isolation of such rare cases as do occur.
Germany: 1870-1871 Over 1,000,000 people had smallpox of which
120,000 died. 96% of these had been vaccinated.
Philippines: 1918-1919 Smallpox epidemic resulted in 60,855
deaths. (2) with over 95% of the population vaccinated, the worst epidemic in
the Philippine’s history occurred resulting in a case mortality of 65%. The
highest percentage occurred in the capital Manila, the most thoroughly
vaccinated place. The lowest percentage occurred in Mindanao, the least
vaccinated place owing to
religious prejudices. (2)
Scotland: 1855-1875 over 9,000 children under 5 died of smallpox
despite Scotland being, at that time, one of the most vaccinated countries in
1907-1919 with only a third of the children vaccinated, only 7
smallpox deaths were recorded for children under 5 years of age.
Small pox vaccine caused more and larger outbreaks of small pox
than it prevented! You have been mislead and lied to.
Truth is evidenced….the following posts are especially for those who WANT and seek truth…especially for “shark…toothless”…..LOOOOOOOOOL
http://www.vitaminlawyer.com/ Ralph Fucetola JD
A bit over a year ago Eima Laibow MD was asked to present a paper to the All India Medical Education Congress. Here is her paper on vaccination, focusing on India and Polio: “Regulation and Results” http://tinyurl.com/DrRimaIndiaPaper
https://m.facebook.com/Victoriasarcia. Victoria Sarcia
http://perfectlycrazydragon.tumblr.com/ Poisoning the well: shill
Who wants to tell him?
As far as i am concerned, vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science. Of course vaccines cause autism – go and watch the Vaxxed documentary currently playing in US cinemas for a reality adjustment if you believe vaccines don’t cause autism.
Trump is wrong thinking that spreading vaccines would solve the problem of children suffering vaccine injuries, such as autism. Somewhat more drastic measures are in my opinion warranted, like shutting down the entire vaccine industry for good as a matter of urgency to put an end to this medical fraud, child abuse and crime against humankind.
This is the only area I support Trump
He is bringing up all the right issues.
As someone who worked for 7 years in a full lock down group home facility as a Developmental Disabilities Behaviour Worker, before Myofasical Pain Syndrome and severe Fibromyalgia forced me to resign, vaccines play no part in it. Now please, just let me explain.
The agency ALSO has THE LRGST CHILDREN’S AUTISM OUTREACH prgm in Ontario. It’s OVER DIAGNOSIS for #1. They wanted to Dx my son at TWO w/ autism b/c of a speech delay. He’s turning 5, still has the speech delay, and yes, des have some “Autisticy” traits, but NOT ENUF 4 a Dx. I’ve gone thru every online test possible.
HOWEVER, I was born with SEVERE ADHD. My husband is Dyslexic with moderate ADHD. Our son has always been a VERY loving, caring child. Loves cuddles. Which is the KEY to an Autism Dx. That’s y u here of adults getting Dx in their 40’s. It’s b/c they get married, but b/c of not liking to be touched very much, they usually end in divorce. Our son could also VISUALLY recognize numbers 1-10 at 18mths and no one taught him. He could also visually recognize the entire alphabet by 2. He has an EXTMLY difficult time staying still, being patient and waiting in lines. In the ADHD tests, he scores OFF the chart!!
I’ve also, through countless hrs of research and google searches, came across an article about something called “Hyperlexia.” It’s the Opposite of Dyslexia. My 18yr old daughter is dyslexic, so I know ALL about it. And one of the things it said is, these kids will have “Autisticy” traits, but not enuf 4 a REAL Dx. But Dr’s will make it so that the child fits an Autism Dx b/c it’s “easier.” I also saw that where we took our son for therapy. Hyperlexic children will have a “precociousness” for letters and numbers. Yep. Between ages 4-5, you will see large growth in development, and that’s when the “autisticy” traits will start to disappear. Again, Yep! I went thru the list, he had EVERY ONE except 1. But I’ve now been told by his AMAZING pre-school teacher (we held him back a yr in school) that when we see the Dr’s, to accept whatever Dx they give, or else he WILL NOT RCV HELP IN SCHOOL FROM THE GOVT!! I’m in crappy Ontario Canada. Our Leftist Premier, Kathleen Wynne, just answered the ?? parents had about making the 3-5yr waiting list, shorter. She CUT Autism trmt OFF at age 5!! I’ve been told by ppl in the field that Dr’s are going to start making “just-in-case” Dx’s b/c of this. Then we’re going to see another “spike” in Autism.
The reason for “more autistic kids” is that the criteria is SOOO vague, and extensive, that any kid who’s a little odd fits the criteria for Dx. I was also told this at work by one of the leading researchers in Canada, that over the past 60 years, the Autism Dx criteria has BALLOONED. Check out this video with Temple Grandin – the famous autistic woman who changed the way cows are sent to slaughter: https://youtu.be/MWePrOuSeSY
In the first 5mins she talks about Steve Jobs, and then the history of the Autism Dx. At the end, so as of now, she said:
“And now the whole thing is muddied cuz what about the speech delay, abnormal language? Well, that’s all kind of blurred now. Then they started a NEW Diagnosis called “Social Communication Disorder,” and they’re trying to say that’s not Autism. Well what do you think the CORE problem is in Autism? They’re socially awkward. It’s kind of like you add some socially awkward circuits in the brain and you’re left with geek circuits, and do all the fun “geek stuff.””
She has a Phd and is a leading researcher herself. But who better to hear it from than someone WHO HAS IT!! My son, LOVES ppl!! Tries so hard to play with other kids, but he quickly realizes they don’t understand him and goes off on his own. But he engages us in playtime ALL day long!! But he’s now going to be one of the statistics. It’s WORSE than the ADHD Dx’s in the ’80’s.
Mr. Trump, I thought I’d never agree with you, but my child is also a victim of this …. and it was CLEARLY noticeable that there was a connection with the vaccine…. fever immediately after and then stunted development. Now he has been diagnosed as autistic by several doctors…. before that he was extremely social, was only 2 and could name and appreciate shapes and colours and mixed with other children, after the fever he withdrew and stopped communicating as much…. I am SO ANGRY!