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Donald Trump: Vaccines Cause Autism

Donald Trumps says that Vaccinations cause autism

Donald Trump has publicly spoken out about the dangers of vaccinations, and has said he believes that vaccines cause autism.

Acknowledging that the subject matter is controversial, Trump said “I couldn’t care less. I’ve seen people where they have a perfectly healthy child, and they go for the vaccinations and a month later the child is no longer healthy.

Intergalacticvault.com reports:

“I’ve gotten to be pretty familiar with the subject,” Trump went on to say.

“You know, I have a theory — and it’s a theory that some people believe in — and that’s the vaccinations. We never had anything like this. This is now an epidemic.

It’s way, way up over the past 10 years. It’s way up over the past two years.

And, you know, when you take a little baby that weighs like 12 pounds into a doctor’s office and they pump them with many, many simultaneous vaccinations — I’m all for vaccinations, but I think when you add all of these vaccinations together and then two months later the baby is so different then lots of different things have happened. I really — I’ve known cases.”

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  • REVELLINGINTRUTH

    Absolutely LOVE IT…Thank you Mr. Trump….

    • sharkonwhisky

      Are you joking??? I really hope so!

      • Roving Gambler

        Get the info.

        • sharkonwhisky

          What info in particular?? The info I have so far is informing me that Donald Trump is a highly ignorant, bigoted individual who is just telling a bunch of fools he’ll hope will vote for him what they want to hear. Funny how he is claiming that vaccines cause autism (they don’t) and there is no such thing as climate change (there is). If he is so misinformed about matters such as these, who the hell would want him running a country??

          • Roving Gambler

            Yeah, you are right. I’m going to get in touch with everyone who likes Trump and tell them that based on all the research you have shown to back up your claims that we should rethink our positions. Of course ‘sharkonwhisky’ you know that this proves how I respect your well thought out comment here and that America highly approves of your bestowing your wisdom on us all.
            I will now deny all I’ve learned about Mr. Trump over the years and will even try to restrain my natural instincts to go with a man as accomplished as he is that is outside the mainstream of Politics which has not moved this Country forward as it should have/could have in so many years and take my direction from some anonymous person on the internet.
            What a great Country this is. 😉

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah great stuff, I’m glad to hear this!! Clearly you must have at least a handful of brain cells ti throw together to even understand my point. Nice to know some of you guys that side of the pond have brains after all. Imagine if this clown got into power!? What a sad, sad day that would be for the good ol’ US of A!! Where men like John F Kennedy and his brother are assassinated, and men like Trump have a very real chance of coming to power… GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! 😉

          • Roving Gambler

            How fortunate am I to get such good advice from someone that doesn’t even live here but who so freely gives of himself to help the U.S.A. out when we are struggling to find a new person to Preside over our nation. I hope you don’t mind if I copy and print all of your comments on this matter and put them in the file they deserve to be in!
            Soon I may come to you with questions about how I should approach the whole ‘GOD’ concept. I’m sure you will have advice that will wind up in that very same file!

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ahh I’m only too happy to help good sir!! We Brits spawned you yanks so I feel obliged to help where I can, what with the mess you’ve made of various things…I do what I can!! And yes please feel free to share my words of wisdom to your fellow countryman via all and every channel available to you!

            And yes, funnily enough, I could well assist you on the “GOD” side of things too!! I’m going to assume this is the Christian one in particular, right?? You guys seem to big fans of him over there for some reason…

          • Roving Gambler

            Expound, please!

          • AutismDad

            You Brits are clowns. Your corrupt Health Care System started the whole issue by allowing GLAXOSMITHKLINE’S MMR to harm children then protect GSK by colluding with the upper crust in many Government Departments and the Murdochs too ruin Wakefield et al. Hang you head.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Sod off AutismDad, you yanks are in position to tell others to be ashamed, your country’s meddling in the Middle East spawned ISIS and you have inflicted unnecessary misery on many parts of the world. So don’t try and get your soapbox out, because it is built on very questionable foundations!! As I’ve already said, the doctor who first suggested a link between autism and MMR, Dr Andrew Wakefield, has since been struck off the medical register…he was found guilty for serious professional misconduct over the way he carried out his controversial research. So as I’ve said before, there is no link, and any parent that doesn’t vaccinate their kids and puts them at unnecessary risk should be considered a negligent parent, and I worry on behalf of their kids. It’s all fun and game until those kids go and catch something otherwise preventable through vaccinations. Still, maybe this is natural selection in action, a few too many people in the world so maybe we could do with more not vaccinating. The stupidity of humanity truly knows no bounds!

          • AutismDad

            Sod off Teabag. Britain and the USA are both aggressor nations in regard to greed, war and Pharmaceuticals. You description of the Wakefield issue is the parroting of fiction and lies that started with that maggot Brian Deer and the Murdochs then with the collusion of the GMC and its kangaroo Court.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ermm no the Wakefield issue is undisputed FACT, as is everything else I have said. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid bubba!! I’m off to the lab to make a smallpox like disease and a vaccine for it…I’m going to unleash it and anyone who wants the vaccine can have it, anyone who doesn’t can die. Problem solved, while thinning out the human gene pool of thickies…two birds, one stone!

          • AutismDad

            Proves you have zero credibility teabag

          • sharkonwhisky

            Also proves you have zero interesting things to say. It would have been nice to have debated with someone with at least half a brain, but hey ho. That was too damn easy yankerino.

          • AutismDad

            I don’t waste time debating bozo’s. Your tired, repetitive parroting of media rubbish isn’t up for debate. You are out of the loop and until you catch up with reality you may as well find something else to do, like have a cup-a

          • sharkonwhisky

            LOL an anti-vaxer telling me to catch up with reality!!! Hahaha thanks for the laugh friend! What is it exactly that you are parroting then sonny if not “media rubbish”?? My views are backed up by overwhelming medical scientific evidence…yours by just a few deluded people. Think I’ll go with the science, thanks!! Haha you people, you do amuse me!

          • AutismDad

            Your a pathetic bleeding fool mate. Your blind faith is appreciated by those who fear lawsuits and the paying of compensation. Not to mention those who are immoral and without conscience. So where’s that overwhelming science? Like most pro-vac wankers you’re all talk, but no evidence. But thanks for proving you are a fluffy blow hard and nothing else/

          • sharkonwhisky

            No sir, it is you who are a pathetic fool and you are needlessly putting your children and others at risk. Incredibly selfish and ignorant. I don’t have any “blind faith” as is the religious way. But it is simply self evident that vaccines have saved millions, and millions die from otherwise preventable diseases. The smallpox virus was eliminated from the wild due to vaccines, and polio is going the same way due to vaccines. This is not rumour, this isn’t something some berk with a blog or an agenda has said…this is indisputable FACT. You can argue until your blue in the face, but it doesn’t make you any less wrong. And why should I do your research for you?? If you had done your own research, you wouldn’t need me to spoon feed you. But surprise, surprise you aren’t aware of the evidence, because you’ve only read a few articles online about idiots claiming there is a link between autism and vaccines. Which there isn’t. in other words there is absolutely NO evidence of any kind of link. Try and look at things objectively, rather than with a deluded agenda. I hope you find clarity, for the sake of your children.

          • AutismDad

            WOW. Who did you post as last week or the week before. Talk about propaganda from the Pharma bible. Every last point listed like a brainwashed troll

          • sharkonwhisky

            Did those facts just smash your brain and wobble the foundation of your bulls**t soapbox?? I hope so! There is nothing about what I’ve said that is “pharma propaganda”…it is simply the truth. I don’t have any agenda, my only ally here is what is backed up by the [overwhelming] objective medical and scientific evidence, not my subjective opinion which is shared by a few scientifically illiterate morons on the internet.

          • AutismDad

            Yea now tell me something I haven’t heard from the Pharma Empire minions over and over for years.

          • sharkonwhisky

            As Ive said before DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH you lazy knob jockey!! Not my job to educate you, I’m not sure you can be educated.

            Start with this and go from there. Have you heard of this thing called google?? Try using it bubba. Why are you guys so dumb over there?? We spawned you so seems kinda odd.

            http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

          • AutismDad

            So no undeniable evidence? Just blah blah? Talk about a knob jockey. Is that how you win debates? Are you a master-debater?

          • sharkonwhisky

            It’s hard debating with someone so dumb, and very frustrating…to be honest I don’t consider this a “debate” in any sense…a debate requires a valid opposing argument which you don’t appear to have. I won this before it started bubba! Are you now claiming you are unable to click on the link before so you can be cured of your gargantuan ignorance!? I’m trying to help you here, I’m doing you a favour! Jesus if you’re out there, I could do with some help here…

          • AutismDad

            You seem well versed in ignorance. You supply undeniable evidence for that.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …says you who refuses to look at the scientific literature I have provided. Your actions fit the very precise definition of ignorance…you are in position to refer to anyone else as ignorant bubba…you express the very dictionary definition, IgnorantDad.

          • AutismDad

            Fraud getting into the IMMATURE part of his act.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …this shows you have no argument, and are simply a low life troll that doesn’t have a point, or much of a life. Your entire act has been immature and asinine, and how are you not a fraud?? You have not provided the tiniest shred of scientific evidence to back up your stupid claims. It really is a shame you have apparently had children…people like you shouldn’t be allowed to breed…we have enough thickies in the gene pool as it is!

          • AutismDad

            Are you blowing a gasket mate?

          • sharkonwhisky

            You’ve already said that…it was lame the first time.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I prefer debating with someone who has some kind of material to debate with, rather just repeating the same old asinine juvenile statements ad infinitum.

          • AutismDad

            Could have fooled me fraud.

          • AutismDad

            I was just thinking that. You are quite juvenile

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah see you’ve done the old very lame thing of repeating what I said as a retort. Lame! You are definitely the most juvenile “father” I’ve encountered…

          • AutismDad

            Claiming you have highly important unassailable evidence about vaccines then not supplying it, but instead supplying juvenile excuses shows I have to deal with you at that level.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Your ENTIRE messages have been juvenile in nature without a SHRED of evidence. I have provided evidence and links to evidence, but any scientific evidence is considered a “pharma conspiracy”. Do you not see the idiocy I’m dealing with here!?

          • AutismDad

            The conspiracy card. Wow I’m trumped now…..snicker

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ha “Trumped” that was quite good for you! Wait it wasn’t deliberate was it…

          • AutismDad

            As bad as you’ve been that last statement shows you are out of brain fuel.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Do you even have a brain to fuel??

          • AutismDad

            You are sputtering on fumes

          • sharkonwhisky

            You are gagging on your own word diarrhea.

          • AutismDad

            No I’m not. Maybe mom should take your comp privaledges away?

          • AutismDad

            Don’t call me friend

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ok friend. I think it may have been sarcasm.. Do you even know what that is??

          • AutismDad

            Its when a buttcrack like you thinks he’s clever and funny when he’s not.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I never claimed to be clever or funny…but I am definitely much less ignorant than you…praise Jesus!!

          • AutismDad

            I think you mean praise baby killers

          • sharkonwhisky

            What!? By not not vaccinating young children you are risking their lives…so “baby killers” is MUCH more relevant label to you and the other anti-vax crazies. Wow this is too easy!!

          • AutismDad

            I imagine easy is your standard for success. Maybe that’s why you supply no evidence to back up your slobbering gob.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Are you seriously this stupid?? I mean really?? Do you have a brain condition?? This is the THIRD time I have provided a link to a paper on vaccines with many, many scientific references you can delve into. Because I have provided hard evidence, and all you can do is provide stupid asinine comments without any evidence…I win this one bubba. Perhaps my easiest victory ever, but given how much of a fucktard you are, all the more glorious.

            http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

          • AutismDad

            Are you brain Dead? What link?? I have received no such thing. Are you having a moment? Maybe you should watch Coronation Street to calm your nerves.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No thanks I loath soaps and don’t watch much television because I have better things to do. This is the link…again. If it’s not showing up then this website ain’t displaying links.

            http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

          • AutismDad

            From World Health Organization?? Pharma Central? What a joke.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Where do you get your facts from “New Age anti vax morons”, “Anti logic Inc.”?? If you can provide some solid peer reviewed scientific references, then I’ll take interest. But I’m getting bored with this asinine exchange. My mighty intellect could be doing other things but here I am conversing with a silly little monkey!

          • AutismDad

            Your mighty intellect?? Is mighty sad.

          • sharkonwhisky

            It is when it realised the human gene pool is represented by people like you.

          • AutismDad

            And you FrankenStooge

          • sharkonwhisky

            No, no. Just you TrollDad.

          • AutismDad

            Ad hom

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            A look down your comment history and it’s clear to all you don’t (can’t) debate anyone, you scatter the comments with non sequitur, ad hominem single lines, bully a few, dismiss those that have an argument (“I don’t debate xxxx”). When you do have try, it’s quite sweet as the grammar is good and the spelling is super, but the logical fallacies come thick and fast until the point is lost and we are back to the ad hominems and tu quoque.

            I think that’s what they call a troll?

          • AutismDad

            Like I care. I target those who pretend to know all when they don’t. You’re a fraud like most who blow steam out their back end while insisting vaccines are pristine and harmless. I’m able to determine ZERO credibility easily based on the inane, asinine post from ILK INC.

          • sharkonwhisky

            He’s right though, I concur, you are a simple troll, and not a very good one…you’re a washed up, second hand troll who doesn’t have a point.

          • AutismDad

            But I keep you stooges busy. And I show you can’t and won’t back up your claims. I show you have no credibility and no one should believe a word you say.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ahh StupidDad. I’ve provided you with links to scientific literature and references and you won’t look at them, because you know I’m right and you’re acting like a stupid little kid putting its hands over its ears and going “lalalala can’t hear you”. This is a display of incredible ignorance on your part. Maybe you are too stupid to understand the scientific literature anyway…I suspect this is the case. I don’t need credibility because I’m backed up by the credibility of many scientists and doctors, my credibility isn’t really relevant here you idiot. I would leave medical science to the grown ups and try and not think too much before you hurt yourself.

          • AutismDad

            You’ve supplied nothing but endless vomit.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Speak for yourself bubba!! What have you actually brought to this discussion??

          • AutismDad

            Sorry that isn’t evidence or a link.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Maybe the link ain’t showing? Well the thing to search for is “Vaccination greatly reduces disease, disability, death and inequity worldwide”, it is a World Health Organisation review paper, with many many supporting references.

            http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

          • AutismDad

            Supporting references from other vaccine proponents. Way to stack the cards mate.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No not “vaccine proponents” but “scientists who have actually conducted research into vaccines”. One then naturally becomes a proponent due to logic, as it is very very clear that the benefits of vaccines far, far out way the risks. Duhh.

          • AutismDad

            Quite a trollism. But then that’s your only evidence, blind faith in science.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No, but faith in the scientific message. If everyone had your intellect we’d still be in the dark ages.

          • AutismDad

            Instead of the midst of an autism epidemic

          • sharkonwhisky

            …which is not linked to vaccines in any way, as there is scientific evidence to link them, just a few misguided idiots making noise who don’t know what they are talking about. Autism has not been a recognised mental condition for long at all, so it kinda follows that reported cases are going up…because it is being diagnosed more. And there are other things that could be linked to autism…but vaccines aren’t.

          • AutismDad

            Garbage

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            There we have it folks! AutismDolt has done it! He’s managed to fit “Straw Man*” into his inane babbling! Securing the title of Least Coherent Argument for this thread. No evidence offered in support of his raving, no common thread in his attempts at communicating, just disconnected jabs and bile. He truly is a very special guy.

            * Straw man means “a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while actually refuting an argument which was not advanced by that opponent.”

          • AutismDad

            And here folks is a blow hard at work. Finger pointing that could and should be directed his way.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            Thank you! I just won a fiver! We ran a book on which of your 3 plays you would run – Tu Quoque, ad hominem or a random non sequitur. A shiny penny for you if you can tell me which it was!

          • AutismDad

            And being the clown you are you are lying once again. Maybe you should rent a clown outfit and do children’s b’day parties. I’d say that’s more your level and style.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Oh no I think that would be MUCH more fitting for you…if you’re allowed near children.

          • AutismDad

            That’s your best come back? Brains cells running short on retort?

          • sharkonwhisky

            But this is incriminating yourself…ALL of your messages have been below this level. So you are making yourself seem really really stupid by saying that.

          • AutismDad

            No I’m not. Nice try sounding smart. F grade

          • sharkonwhisky

            You really are though bubba.

          • AutismDad

            What’s with all the lame pictures and slogans? You said you had evidence. This is nonsense.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Pictures paint a thousand words so they say, and I’m getting bored with words. I’m thinking you may have a mental age of about four and children seem to like pictures.

          • AutismDad

            Wrong again.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Is that really the best you could do as a retort?? Sad. You make a pitiful troll. I hope you make a better father, if you are indeed one.

          • AutismDad

            So dumb.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Haha but you do like to waste time “debating”. Although you aren’t debating, as I believe in a debate two people needing to be defending a point…as far as I can see you don’t have a point, and I’m simply speaking the truth. So I won this one. I’m gonna make myself a some blueberry pancakes, yankee style, as a celebratory meal and imagine you as a simple deer that I’m hunting with a big gun to put out of its misery. As I’ve said before, go and look at the scientific research yourself bubba.

            Wait a sec, do you even know what science or scientific evidence is???

          • AutismDad

            Wow what a bloody goof

          • sharkonwhisky

            Wow AutismDad, once more you raise the bar on the intelligence and eloquence of your retorts. What you just said was definitely a worthwhile use of your time and a truly great addition to the exchange. Bravo sir.

          • AutismDad

            My standards don’t require acknowledgement or recognition from you.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You have standards!? I’ve not seen evidence of that. See my message above^^

          • AutismDad

            The message that’s immature or just irrelevant?

          • sharkonwhisky

            Like every single one of your messages?? As I said, see above^^

          • AutismDad

            yankerino?? That’s just plain idiotic.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Have you not seen The Simpson’s?? It’s from America I believe. A play on “neighberino” used by Ned Flanders. Jesus I have to explain *everything” with you. Does your partner need to wipe your arse for you??

          • AutismDad

            I don’t watch that crap. So now you’re becoming fixated on my dirty arse? You need help.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You don’t know the Simpson’s?? Do you live under a rock? So you don’t likely have a sense of humour either. Again you are displaying your stupidity…the saying “needing to wipe your arse” is referring to your total lack of independence, in this case independent thought. It is something called a metaphor…why not type that into google and learn something new today??

          • AutismDad

            I can see the Simpsons is popular with simpletons.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Actually no, the Simpson’s is regarding as very clever humour and is a favourite among scientists…It is very obvious to me why you wouldn’t like it as most of the jokes would be WAY over your head!!

          • AutismDad

            I can see by your errors how competent you aren’t.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I haven’t made any errors here, I’ve been speaking an inconvenient truth that your ignorance rejects.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You’re just plain idiotic, friend. I’ve known houseplants with greater powers of objective thinking than you.

          • AutismDad

            Don’t call me friend. Yea plants….idiotic again.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ok friend. And no I was comparing your brain power to that of a house plant…so I was calling you idiotic. Simply calling me idiotic in return shows, ironically, just how incredibly idiotic you are. You have just ascended to a whole new level of Stupid. I now grant you a new name in honour of this…StupidDad.

          • AutismDad

            What a stool sample.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Haha appalling comeback!!Of course I didn’t expect anything else. I think we can say I won that one! Idiot.

          • AutismDad

            You are no winner in the normal sense. But acting as your own judge and annointing yourself? Must have low esteem.

          • sabelmouse

            lol!

          • Ann

            What is causing this epidemic of autism? Funny you know vaccines don’t cause autism so you must know what is causing autism.

          • sharkonwhisky

            There is absolutely zero scientific evidence to link autism to vaccines, and it has been looked at repeatedly. The doctor who first claimed there was a link between MMR vaccines and autism, Dr Andrew Wakefield, has since been struck off the medical register…he was found guilty for serious professional misconduct over the way he carried out his controversial research. So a link with vaccines is *extremely* unlikely.

            Autism has not been recognised as a mental condition for very long, so part of the rise on autism cases is simply that it is being diagnosed more than ever before, when previously it wasn’t. If you are concerned, I would look at other life style factors, it is more likely linked to one or more of these.

          • Roving Gambler

            Wow, you obviously have extremely untrustworthy sources for your info. That’s okay however. I’m sure you will investigate further using reputable sources and report back signalling a fresh outlook.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah I’m clearly addressing someone well versed in medical sciences who has well honed powers of objectivity on such matters. My “sources” are ALL scientific studies done on this to date by people who aren’t quacks or charlatans, and my statement about the guy who first claimed there was a link getting fired for very shoddy research is simply FACT, please look it up. Look, I’ll even help you, give this a read:

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8695267.stm

            I’ll be honest, I’m not sure on what basis you can disagree with what I’ve said?? If you can provide some reputable sources yourself rather than making a baseless, unsupported statement that any monkey with a keyboard is capable of, I would be most happy to research them on your behalf…

          • Roving Gambler

            Of course you will say that your sources are factual and based on scientific evidence. Your problem is that you actually believe what you say. Your content is all a nice little package that you can swallow but your context is bass ackwards and open to criticism which you are unfamiliar with. You insist that Vaccinations are safe and I insist that I have the right to decide whether or not I want to have my children vaccinated regardless of how important your information is to you, and you obviously hate to be wrong and even though I disagree with your sources and their scientific evidence, you want me to see it your way. I don’t and I’m going to do what I can to see that Donald Trump becomes our next President and that you go unanswered any further by me on this topic. That’s what you get for locking yourself into a position that can and has been proven wrong. Hang in there, you’ll find someone to blissfully talk behind my back about how ignorant I am and how happy you are to be deluded.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I don’t care about being right or wrong, what I care about is the truth, back up by solid evidence. Like I’ve said, there is no evidence to show there is a link between vaccines and autism…this has been looked at repeatedly now. There is however, definite danger in NOT vaccinating your children. Our generation takes vaccines for granted…while they eradicated the incredibly nasty smallpox virus from the wild (this is undisputed fact, you can disagree if you want but then you you’d simply be wrong), with polio going the same way…in years past it was common to lose children to nasty diseases that, thanks to vaccines, have largely been wiped out. Now though, due to the ignorance of this anti-vax movement, some formerly rare diseases are staging a come back.

            Read this case of Spanish parents of a small boy they decided not to vaccinate for diphtheria…they felt betrayed by the anti-vax movement…I believe the boy died of the disease.

            http://www.thelocal.es/20150605/parents-of-diphtheria-boy-feel-terrible-guilt

            You are in NO position to accuse anyone of “locking yourself into a position”. I am doing the opposite, and only going on what the evidence is saying. If it said otherwise, I would think otherwise. So try being objective and looking at things in a non biased mindset, rather than having an agenda from the outset and cherry picking the misinformed views of people that happen to resonate with you…this is NOT the path to clarity and understanding!

            I feel sorry for your children, and I sincerely hope they do not get an otherwise completely avoidable disease because of your actions.

            Please also give this a read:

            http://violentmetaphors.com/2014/03/25/parents-you-are-being-lied-to/

            If you think your salvation lies in the fool Donald Trump, then by extension I can really only assume you are a fool too. I doubt very much he’ll get into power…most sane people see him as a bit of laughing stock…but I’m amazed that supposedly free thinking people would even entertain that electing him president will be a positive move forward.

          • Roving Gambler

            You bring ‘Full of yourself’ to levels inexperienced by anyone that gives a hoot. Keep your uppity opinion to yourself since you place so much importance to it.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You accuse me being “Full of yourself”…I accuse you of being very evidently full of sh*t. You do seem to give a hoot though or why would you reply?? The vast weight of science, evidence, reason and logic is against you. May your ignorance reap you much joy, you bigoted fool. Maybe you will catch an otherwise vaccine preventable disease, and your God will have the last laugh and teach you a lesson. I will pray for you. God bless x

          • Roving Gambler

            You are going to pray for me? God Bless? You self centered hypocrite. Why on earth would you use ‘God’ in vain? All this because I differ with you on your biased and inexact scientific sources. I should have known from the first when you took credit for “spawning” us Yanks and that you felt “obliged to help” when what you were up to all along was trying to make me and others, see things the way you do. You really need to lighten up if you wish that I get a “vaccine preventable disease”. I hope to the Almighty that if you have children, they never experience the bile that comes out of your mouth.
            I will pray for you but probably in a few weeks since God will know I’m lying if I were to do that now.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You have not provided ANY sources to back up your spurious claims…I am quoting what the OVERWHELMING scientific consensus is saying…can your little brain comprehend this?? Put down that Bible and pick up a scientific textbook “for dummies”, it will do you far more good. You do not see much at all, because of your religious brainwashing and you are shackled by ignorance. You are trapped in a bigoted bubble of your own making.

            I don’t wish bad on anyone, but if you were to catch a disease that a vaccine could have protected you from, then you would only have yourself to blame and it would teach you a very good lesson. So it might be the best for your poor children that you get such an illness you could have prevented, then you will understand the importance of vaccines. God speed, holy virus!

            Remember bubba, it wasn’t God that eliminated the smallpox virus…(it was He that inflicted it upon us)…it was via vaccinations. This is undisputed FACT.

          • Roving Gambler

            HYPOCRITE. You say you will pray for me, and “God Bless” and then criticize me for being what you think (if you call that thinking) is someone who reads the Bible. Oh, how I will pray for your children and anyone that foolishly looks to you as a role model.
            The bubba thing is proof of the hate in your heart that I have innocently tapped into albeit it flows like water.
            Oh yeah, God neither eliminated or caused smallpox you ignorant fool. Science can explain it if you would just calm down and read about it (but that won’t happen).
            I love how open-minded you are (sarcasm there, in case you don’t recognize it) when you insist that I am “shackled by ignorance” simply because I don’t see things the way you do. Again, I hope your children are not affected by your foolishness.
            The ‘Non-Vaccine’ movement is growing here in the USA (which you obviously despise) so stay there in England and pump yourself full of all the drugs you want (yet again, I hope your children or anyone under your tyranny gets away with their own thoughts and preferences before you smother them with yours).
            It might take a few months before I can pray to the ‘Small Pox Deity’ for you!

          • sharkonwhisky

            Proverbs 1:7 “…fools despise wisdom and instruction.”

          • Roving Gambler

            Right, you might want to look into that. 🙂

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah but this was directly solely at you bubba. I would rather base my views on reason, logic and scientific evidence then on blind faith and ignorance as you are doing. Thanks for the laughs. It is both amusing and depressing in equal measure to know there are human beings like you out there in this day and age. Wow.

          • Roving Gambler

            Like I said, nobody adores you more than you do. Sad that anyone that disagrees with you is ignorant, illogical, unscientific and blindly following their own heart. You must be very very lonely!

          • sharkonwhisky

            Far from it. I do my best to dispel ignorance and superstition where I can. Some people, such as yourself, are beyond redemption, due to saturation if ignorance and religious brainwashing. I will pray to your god for your salvation! God bless x

          • Roving Gambler

            I’m going to guess that you’ve been diagnosed ‘Bi-Polar’. Given that I will end my participation in this conversation which has forwarded me in so far as trying to have compassion for those that protest for the sake of protesting.
            I will exercise choice when it comes to Vaccination and you will do what you’re told.
            That you hold yourself up as the judge to “dispel ignorance and superstition” where you think you can explains both my assumption of your Bi-Polar diagnosis and my labeling you as self centered.
            I am finished.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I only protest when there is a clear reason to, and in this case it is against incomprehensible ignorance on your part. You’ve really raised the bar chief. I will do what the overwhelming medical and scientific evidence suggests is the best course of action, surely as anyone adhering to common sense and logic would…it really is a no brainer, I’m not being self centered, I’m thinking beyond myself…I will be fine because I’ve had my vaccinations…you are your family are at risk because you are wrong.

          • Roving Gambler
          • sharkonwhisky
          • Roving Gambler

            Nonsense.

          • sharkonwhisky
          • Roving Gambler

            Nonsense.

          • Roving Gambler

            So, you get your info from Gervais, and you worry about my children.
            You are a sad, sad man.

          • Roving Gambler

            So, it’s Doctor Kimmel that you trust. Wow, you are so uninformed!

          • Roving Gambler

            I know you are but what am I?

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah very mature. Statements like this show you have lost the argument…not a surprise as you never had an argument to begin with!!

          • Roving Gambler

            You don’t know my God you self centered and pretentious fool!

          • sharkonwhisky

            “Your” God doesn’t belong to you, and no I don’t know because he doesn’t exist, he is a fabrication, a lie, a fairy tale. And the Christian god is revolting…a mass murdering, bullying, jealous, sexist, homophobic megalomaniac…even if he was found to exist I would refuse to grovel to him. But he definitely doesn’t so who cares. Amazing so many people believe in such rubbish!! We are such a gullible and suggestible species, it amazes and depresses me. We need to dump this religion rubbish and superstitious nonsense if we hope to have a long term peaceful future on this planet, religion and Christianity has been a source of untold suffering, misery and death.

          • Roving Gambler

            Like I said, you don’t have a clue and you are insistant on proving it over and over. Too much hate in your heart, old man!

          • AutismDad

            Blind Faith in science isn’t any better.

          • sharkonwhisky

            There is no such things as “blind faith” in science…to even say that suggests how little you know about science. Science is ever evolving and being refined, and science is the number one thing that disproves older science, as our models for mapping nature and the universe on all levels are refined. So I don’t have blind faith in science at all. But, it is science that is allowing us to have this exchange…on an internet that allows instant electronic worldwide communication, on a computer, powered by AC electricity…this is all born by the fruits of science and technology is it not?? So I definitely have respect for the power of science…it has done so much to improve so many of our lives, how can you not?? But I don’t have blind faith, and neither should you. Look to the scientific evidence with an open yet skeptical, critical mind. When you do this, one quickly finds that vaccines have saved many many millions of lives worldwide, and there is no link between them and autism. So why not grow up and join the real world with the big boys and girls??

          • Roving Gambler

            As if what you think actually matters to me or anyone else.

          • sharkonwhisky

            It clearly does though as you keep wanting to exchange words all the time!!! Idiot! And I’m only concerned about your poor children and family members…God can have you if he wants but I feel bad for the innocents caught in your web of ignorance.

          • Roving Gambler

            I’m tempted to let my children and family members unload on you but you are doing a pretty good job of embarrassing yourself.

          • Roving Gambler

            Eat me.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No thanks I think I’d contract idiocy somehow.

          • Roving Gambler

            You’ve already contracted that no doubt. It’s obvious in all your comments.

          • Roving Gambler

            Copied and Pasted that did you?

          • sharkonwhisky

            Who cares? What difference does that make?? Are you refuting the good book and God’s holy word!?! I hope not for the sake of your soul!!!

          • Roving Gambler

            You’ve already claimed him to be ” … revolting…a mass murdering, bullying, jealous, sexist,
            homophobic megalomaniac…even if he was found to exist I would refuse
            to grovel to him. But he definitely doesn’t so who cares.
            You need to get some therapy.

          • AutismDad

            Pro-vac class 101.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No, a rational and scientifically educated mind…a rare thing in the US I assume??

          • Roving Gambler

            My God, sharkonwhisky you are blind.

          • sharkonwhisky

            My God, Roving Gander, I am in no way blind to your ignorance or bigotry. “I was blind but now I see”. So funny to receive such accusations from a brainwashed Bible thumper!! 🙂

          • Roving Gambler

            You’ve referred to the Bible in this thread and I have not. Wake up, you angry air soul!

          • AutismDad

            Blowin a Gasket. Predictable coming from a pro-vac.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Sod off AutismDad (even your name suggests a knob chobbler of intergalactic proportions), and pointless ad hominem attacks prove you don’t have an argument here…always the tactic of the weaker mind when it comes to a debate.

          • Roving Gambler

            Blah-blah-blah.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …yawn…wow you’re dull. Go back to kindergarten and play with people your own mental age.

          • AutismDad

            A well versed TROLL. SOLID EVIDENCE? I’ve been reading about the overall issue for 20 years and have NEVER encountered solid evidence. And when I encounter those who claim it exists and they provid liks to it, its always junk science and other rubbish. So I’m asking you to provide links to your solid evidence.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Errm right so you said it yourself…you have NEVER encountered solid evidence to link vaccines to autism (because there isn’t any), but it is self evident that vaccines have saved millions of lives, and wiped out the smallpox virus…one of Mankind’s deadliest afflictions…forever from the wild. These points I raise are what is known as *undisputed fact”…you could refute them till your read in your silly face but it wouldn’t make you any less wrong on the issue.

          • AutismDad

            Blah Blah Blah. I have NEVER read evidence proving NO ASSOCIATION Jethro.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Well then this just proves to me…as I’ve already said…you have not looked into any of the scientific evidence for the efficacy of vaccines, and get all your information from crackpots, scientifically illiterate morons or people with a questionable agenda. ALL the sound scientific evidence to date shows no link between vaccines and autism, and you’ve got to be damn fool to think they’re linked.

          • AutismDad

            Hilarious. Sound scientific evidence. More jargon with nothing to back it up. Over and over like a broken record. Credibility…ZERO

          • sharkonwhisky

            And you’re a misinformed, cherry picking buffoon who is unable to get of their lardy arse and actually do some research and find out the truth on the matter, rather than what they want to believe…that’s a big difference bubba. I’m not going to spoon feed you, I might as well be teaching advanced statistics to a tree, it won’t make any difference because I’m not sure you have the brain power necessary to think objectively.

          • AutismDad

            You bleeding fraud.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …yawn…you’ve already said that. Another moron indicator this, repeating a word which they know in actuality applies solely to them, they are merely projecting.

          • AutismDad

            Twisted logic. No surprise. Could be why your grip on reality is to tenuous

          • Jeoff

            I guess Autism does speak.

          • Roving Gambler

            Yada-yada-yada-yada-yada

          • sharkonwhisky

            Again, this juvenile, asinine reply just highlights you don’t have an argument at all, and you are unwilling to think objectively. I won this one. And boy does it feel good, to bask in your idiocy and ignorance.

          • AutismDad

            Evidence? NONE as always

          • Roving Gambler

            Nope, that’s your idiocy and ignorance you are basking in there, Scooter!

          • AutismDad

            And you are media fed and easily fooled.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No sir, you are media fed…reading a few articles on the internet does not mean you are an expert…far from it. So many keyboard warriors that wouldn’t know sound scientific evidence if it sat on their stupid, ignorant faces. Try looking to scientific and medical research and use that to inform your opinions rather than just warbling your dangerously misinformed and baseless views ad nauseam.

          • AutismDad

            Supply it. I’ll read it while on the loo.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …yawn…it isn’t my job to supply you with the scientific research!! Do your own research, not my job to spoon feed you…peeps losing an argument often resort to this sloppy lazy line. I’ve got better things to be than try and teach someone who isn’t interested in learning anything.

            If you were TRULY objective about this, and wanted to have a clear picture on what is really going on here, you’d have looked into already surely, no??

          • AutismDad

            So you either have none, or you are another fraud

          • sharkonwhisky

            Haha this is a clear attempt at side stepping the argument because you know you are wrong. Jesus you’re dumb. If you are unwilling to do your own research and explore the scientific evidence on this issue it just PROVES to me you have a biased, ignorant, subjective opinion on this matter. It proves you don’t care about the truth on the matter, you just cherry pick bullshit. This is NOT the path to true knowledge or understanding, or way of looking at the matter objectively. I would advice picking up a very basic science textbook “for dummies” and go from there.

            Here is one paper on vaccines, with many, many supporting references, so you can go and do your own research now. This should settle it. If “AutismDad” is claiming to know better and have more expertise in this area then the sum total of all these doctors and scientists then you truly are deluded and beyond hope and redemption, not even Jesus can save you.

            http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

          • AutismDad

            Fraud it is.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …this coming from a towering scientific intellect such as yourself. I think I’ll trust the scientists on this over some random brainwashed buffoon on the internet who wouldn’t know what constituted sound scientific evidence if it came and slapped him repeatedly in his stupid face.

          • AutismDad

            You’re being too hard on yourself. And you’re not towering.

          • sharkonwhisky

            It’s all relative bubba, and compared to you, I am towering indeed. You are but the tiny ignorant ant to my informed, intellectual redwood.

          • AutismDad

            The only tower in your vicinity is composed of bull manure and straw men.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Well from that manure, I may consider growing you an avocado tree…because you could damn well do with some brain food. Or stick you in the straw man and set it alight.

          • AutismDad

            Groaner from a boner

          • sharkonwhisky

            Well done that is perhaps one of the dumbest things Ive ever read on the internet. Congrats.

          • AutismDad

            Its accurate. Period

          • sharkonwhisky

            My analysis of your stupidity and ignorance is also accurate. Period

          • AutismDad

            Duh moment….

          • AutismDad

            BBC? Ha Ha Ha and of course a Government run TV Station would ONLY present objective, independent information.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You are saying this because you have no direct experience of the BBC…they are far more objective in their reporting than your FOX News in the US. And so what?? The BBC were simply reporting that Dr Andrew Wakefield had been struck of the medical register for malpractice over his highly controversial research attempting to make a link between autism and the MMR vaccine..which is true. Because there is no link, as repeated subsequent studies have shown.

          • AutismDad

            Fox news owned by Brit Rupert Murdoch? Yea he and BBC are neck and neck in the honesty derby.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Murdoch doesn’t own the BBC though you fool!

          • AutismDad

            You tit. He owns Fox USA

          • sharkonwhisky

            Yes you moron but HE DOESN’T OWN the BBC (Capitals for highlights). Are you really this stupid???

          • AutismDad

            You need your meds moderated fool. I never said he owned BBC twit.

          • sharkonwhisky

            So yeah, the BBC is not owned by Rupert Murdoch, which counts as a plus. And he was CEO of Fox News until July 1st this year. I’d much sooner trust the BBC over any news agency led by Murdoch any day.

          • AutismDad

            Finally you say something that makes sense. Next you’ll say you understand how the Murdoch’s were involved in framing Andrew Wakefield.

          • AutismDad

            Wrong as usual.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I haven’t said one thing that can be construed as being wrong…do some research and quote actual scientific sources rather than “your opinion” (which doesn’t mean anything), and then I might listen. If you just keep parroting inane, juvenile replies it leads me to thinking you’re a bit simple and makes me wish I could make a vaccination for ignorance and give you a stonking dose!!

          • AutismDad

            Fraud blowing a gasket

          • sharkonwhisky

            You are a bullshit fountain, ever spouting.

          • AutismDad

            Odd that was my interpretation of you, only with Niagara Falls as the image.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Again, a smart come back, demonstrating your keen wit and vast intelligence. Take what I’ve already said and just add something little on. Do you have a mental age of a child??

          • AutismDad

            Aren’t you enjoying the banter Einstein? Where’s you unassailable proof? I’m still waiting to be convinced.

          • sharkonwhisky

            If you refuse to do your own research using the near infinite power of google, then I very clearly win this by default. Refusing to acknowledge evidence out there and cherry picking what only what you want to from highly questionable sources is not the path to true knowledge or understanding…it is the path of pure unadulterated ignorance.

          • AutismDad

            Translation: wah wah I don’t have evidence…I lied!

          • sharkonwhisky

            Translation…this picture. I don’t tell lies. You are accusing me of lying because you know in your heart of hearts that you are.

          • AutismDad

            Another DUH Moment. Anything wise to say?

          • sharkonwhisky

            ^^Please see photo above…it’s for you. I’ll give instructions to help…look at picture…breath…read the words…look at the picture…repeat as many times as needed, digest message.

          • AutismDad

            Stuff your nonsense.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Haha such a lame comeback!! I won that round my foolish friend! Too easy.

          • AutismDad

            I’m sure you celebrate pulling boogers out of your nose too.

          • Stephan Williams

            George Carlin must be rolling over in his grave by the fact you had the effrontery to use his genius to sustain your evil and wicked support for useless but still dangerous drugs that threaten the lives of millions of our children. He’d figuratively kick you in the nuts if he was still here, you lying sack of shit.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Nah George Carlin and I would have got on just fine, he was a smart guy so would have taken an intelligent overview of this and been pro-vaccine, obviously. He wasn’t a half brained ignorant inbred redneck moron like you Stephen…you’re a waste of carbon atoms that could be put to much better use in many earthworms.

          • Erwin Alber

            You said that vaccines don’t cause autism. There is a whopping big lie for a start.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No, that’s an outright lie, of course they don’t..there is absolutely zero scientific evidence showing a link between vaccines and autism. You do realise that the guy who first proposed a link between them, Dr Andrew Wakefield, was struck of the medical register for lying and malpractice? He wasn’t interesting in caring for people, he was interested in exploiting people and making a profit off bogus claims. Why is this even a debate?? So you’ve been taken in by a whooping lie, not I.

          • Erwin Alber

            iAndrew Wakefield has acted properly at all times as far as I am concerned, but f you prefer to believe the medical-pharmaceutical mafia that is entirely up to you. I do count myself very lucky that I am not brainwashed like you. Mind you, I too used to be a brainwashed moron, but some of us get smarter as we get older.

          • sharkonwhisky

            They’re not though is there…there is zero scientific evidence to show a link and the MD who first stated there was, Dr Andrew Wakefield, was stuck off the medical register for fraudulent research, lying and exploiting vulnerable people with his bogus health claims.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I haven’t said anything wrong here…everything I have said is backed up by solid science. Your statement are backed up by…nothing. Your own half baked opinions cobbled together with a few other misguided crazies. Think I’ll side with the scientists and doctors on this one thanks!!

          • AutismDad

            Typical. You have blind obedience to authority syndrome

          • sharkonwhisky

            It’s called “back up my claims with solid peer reviewed scientific evidence syndrome”. Hopefully someday you will catch it.

          • AutismDad

            You haven’t. That’s a sign of the syndrome.

          • sharkonwhisky

            But my claims ARE backed up by solid scientific evidence. You’re not smart enough to know what that even means. But if you fancy an intellectual challenge, google is at your finger tips. If you’ve somehow taught yourself to type, it follows you can use google’s search bar to find it yourself.

          • AutismDad

            I don’t need Google. So you are admitting you have a degree from U of Google?

          • sharkonwhisky

            What do you mean “you don’t need google”!? Where else would you seek out evidence on vaccines?? How have you conducted your intellectually vigorous research on this topic and sifted through all the scientific evidence to come to your conclusions??

          • AutismDad

            Long story. Not to be shared with you trollinsky

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah well this admission just reveals you as a troll…and not the best or brightest or trolls. You’ve just admitted you have not or will not conduct your own research into vaccines…therefore your opinion on this topic is completely worthless. You’re just a poor, lame troll. I kinda feel sorry for you now.

          • AutismDad

            D – bag. I need no sympathy. I’m surprised a sociopath would say that.

          • bouncedancer

            Keep in mind that trolls like sharkonwhisky get paid per reply.

          • Erwin Alber

            If you think vaccines are so great, have them by all means! There is however absolutely NO WAY I would let anyone with a vaccine of any kind come near me or any child of mine.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I did and do have them. I’ve been working out in Ethiopia and tested positive for typhoid a month ago…luckily I had been vaccinated against this disease which turned something which could have been very serious into something much more trivial and less dangerous and easy to handle. Another friend had a very similar experience to mine working out in Africa and her experience matched mine. VACCINES WORK. I know this from the overwhelming scientific evidence, the fact we eliminated the deadly smallpox virus from the wild using them, and from my own direct experience.

            Your position makes ZERO SENSE. What is MUCH more dangerous is having unvaccinated people increasing in numbers, as now we are observing lots of otherwise rare vaccine preventable diseaes on the rise again…I don’t understand why this is something to be celebrated??

          • Erwin Alber

            Once someone is a member of the Cult of Vaccinology they are unfortunately difficult if not impossible to rescue from its clutches, mostly due to the fact that the cult’s satanic ritual of injecting babies and infants with poisons including blood and/or body parts from sacrificed human fetuses and sacrificed animals is peddled as disease prevention to the unwary. As Schiller once said, “Against stupidity, even the gods contend in vain.”

          • sharkonwhisky

            Yes, damn that Satanic cult, wiping out smallpox, saving many many lives and reducing unnecessary human suffering (including my own)…damn them!! Deluded moron.

          • Erwin Alber

            “Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity.”

            Dr Herbert Shelton, USA

            This means that millions of vaccinating doctors suffer from delusional insanity.

            Stick this in your pipe an smoke it!

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ah yeah because that makes great logical sense doesn’t it…let’s believe the opinions of one crazy doctor over the overwhelming overall scientific-medical consensus when it comes to immunization. Cherry picking the crazy people for their half baked views is NOT the path to truth and understanding!! Please look up what science is and how it works.

            Also, if you value the views of a single person so much, I’ve been out working in Ethiopia, and about a month ago tested positive for typhoid. Luckily I had been vaccinated against the disease before coming out here which made something that could have been very serious into something that was very trivial. Another friend’s experience contracting typhoid while working in Africa having been vaccinated matched mine. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

          • Erwin Alber

            On the other hand, there was the case of a German man who contracted yellow fever in Africa in spite of having been vaccinated against the disease. He was hospitalised on his return to Germany, but because he had been vaccinated against yellow fever the doctors believed that he couldn’t possibly be suffering from yellow fever! So the man didn’t get the treatment appropriate for yellow fever in time and died because of medical ignorance.

          • Stephan Williams

            I think what sharkonwhiskey has is “stupidity syndrome”, commonly known as “Trollitus” – a condition brought about by greed, stupidity, willful ignorance, arrogance, dishonesty and an unapologetic desire to lie in concert with his handlers to benefit monsters who hate all of us – even this imbecile. 😉

          • Erwin Alber
          • Erwin Alber

            You first need to learn the difference between real science and junk science. Vaccinology is junk science, also referred to as Mickey Mouse science or tobacco science.

          • sharkonwhisky

            No it isn’t, and trust me I very likely know a great deal more than you over what constitutes valid science, being a scientist.

            Please explain then the case o smallpox to me then…This most terrible and deadly disease was largely eliminated from the wild through vaccinations. Some people consider this a great scientific achievement than our walking on the moon. Other deadly disease like Polio are going the same way as smallpox, but hanging on in remote areas populated by religious crazies. The body of medical scientific evidence that vaccinations work is incredibly vast.

          • Erwin Alber

            Being a scientist means obviously that you have been thoroughly brainwashed with junk science, hence your belief that smallpox was eradicated thanks to vaccination. If you used your brain, you would realise what utter garbage this claim is.

            Edward Jenner launched his barbaric cowpox vaccine against smallpox in 1796, and the WHO declared smallpox eradicated in 1980. so it took 194 years – nearly two centuries – to “eradicate” smallpox??!!

            The truth is of course that Jenner’s disgusting potion never protected anyone., let alone saved anyone’s life! It’s all make-believe, just like the claim that the polio vaccine beat polio. The polio epidemic was already on the decline when the vaccine was introduced, and the polio vaccine was like Jenner’s vaccine also completely useless and likewise dangerous.

            https://vactruth.com/download/vaccination_exposed.pdf

          • sharkonwhisky

            So what is your claim as to how this was achieved?? I’m looking forward to this…

            Smallpox WAS eliminated largely through vaccination, zero belief is required, it is common knowledge.

          • Erwin Alber

            I suggest you watch this to get up-to-date with what has been happening in the real world, but that you get off the whisky first:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCU2DfMBpU

          • sharkonwhisky

            You seem to be drunk on ignorance, which is a far more dangerous poison!

            This does NOT constitute scientific evidence that goes against the stance that vaccines are effective…it is just the ignorant ramblings of hald brained morons (this applies to all anti-vaxxers).

          • AutismDadd

            FOX NEWS owned by Rupert Murdoch. Son James introduced Brian Deer to the mix and then James ends up on the board of MMR maker GlaxoSmithKline. HMMMM!

          • sharkonwhisky

            Way, way better than your FOX News trust me, I’ve had the misfortune of seeing it!! How you yanks tolerate such garbage is beyond me.

          • Erwin Alber

            No, we don’t trust you. BBC = British Bullshit Corporation

            Check this out:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5lEZaHCaI

          • Erwin Alber

            BBC = British Bullshit Corporation

            Check this out:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5lEZaHCaI

          • Roving Gambler

            Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha

          • sharkonwhisky

            Eloquent, intelligent reply, as usual, contributes a lot to the conversation. I think we can say I won this one by a good margin. God is with me, clearly!!

          • Roving Gambler

            The one you claim does not exist. Is that correct you silly old man?

          • Erwin Alber

            You are clueless. A senior CDc scientist turned whistleblower has confessed that he and his co-workers destroyed study data showing that vaccines cause autism. What planet do you live on?

            http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

          • sharkonwhisky

            What about Dr Andrew Wakefield who INVENTED the link between autism and vaccines…he lied and was done for malpractice, he wanted to exploit his patients and make money out of them from his bogus claims. This just sounds like yet more lies to me, I need to see some solid peer reviewed scientific evidence to change my stance, and all the scientific research conducted so fat shows ZERO link between autism and vaccines, and no one explains how vaccines could even cause autism, what would be the explanatory mechanism??

          • Erwin Alber

            Dr Andrew Wakefield has acted properly and with complete honesty and integrity at all times – unlike the medical mafia which framed him using preposterous lies because he had dared to open the can of worms concerning the MMR – autism connection.

            The label “autism” is however like the label “SIDS” used to mislead parents and doctors into believing that developmental regression, bowel disorders and neurological problems caused by vaccines (or in the case of SIDS, vaccine-induced deaths) are not vaccine-related.

            Autism should be renamed VIMBS – Vaccine Induced Mangled Brain Syndrome – although in all fairness “autism” can sometimes also be caused by other environmental factors.

            The mechanism? The neurotoxins such as mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, MSG and foreign proteins in vaccines affect children’s developing brains and nervous systems in very detrmental ways, which is why autism is described as a “spectrum.”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs

          • sharkonwhisky

            No he was a liar and a fraud and found to making up bogus health claims so he could exploit vulnerable people to make a buck…very far from acting with honesty or integrity!!! You people…

          • AutismDadd

            Grade A troll

          • Boris Ogon

            Mindlessly “replying” to nine-month-old comments? Why yes, definite trolling. I wouldn’t call it “Grade A,” though.

          • AutismDadd

            Good thing no one cares what Boris thinks.

          • Ann

            Are you serious? Even the vaccine inserts list autism as an adverse reaction to vaccines. You need to educate yourself!!

            Dr. Wakefield is just one of HUNDREDS of doctors who have stated that vaccines result in autism and a myriad of other diseases such as diabetes, asthma, eczema, ADHD, cancer, multiple sclerosis, ALS and other autoimmune diseases.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            Wakefield is pro vaccine. His only beef was with the combined MMR made by Mersk. He supports single dose MMR vaccines and made good mone given them at his private clinic. He even had a patent for one of his own.

          • Ann

            Wakefield is just one of many, many doctors who attribute vaccines to illness and death. Wakefield is not a god to me, but I do admire his studies and his connection between bowel disease and the MMR and autism because it puts parents on the alert to possible vaccine damage via vaccines.

          • AutismDad

            GLAXOSMITHKLINE. This MMR was rejected by Canada, who warned British Health who ignored that warning because GSK is an entrenched company with friends in Government and media.

          • AutismDad

            Royal Free was applying for a patent for TRANSFER FACTOR to treat gut issues. So you are merely showing your ignorance.

          • Erwin Alber

            Well he has changed his mind somewhat as he has now stated that if he had a baby again he would not vaccinate it against anything.

          • Erwin Alber

            BS. He is a gastro-enterologist, meaning a specialist in bowel disorders, and worked as such at the Royal Free Hospital in London, so he wasn’t into poisoning children for profit.

          • D Wilson

            ShrimpleWhisky, what do you have to do with defending pharmaceuticals companies ?
            If pharmaceuticals companies had nothing to hide they would not be in court now in Pennsylvania or
            make ethical scientist employed by them to fake data to make money.

          • sharkonwhisky

            …exactly like Dr Andrew Wakefield was accused of doing, the guy who started this. I’m not defending pharmaceutical companies…I think the current psychiatric-pharmaceutical approach to treating depression needs a serious overhaul, and there are definitely limitations in how they report their data findings. I’m just in favour of vaccines because they save lives and reduce unnecessary human suffering, I know this due to the scientific evidence on them and my own direct experience.

          • bouncedancer

            Then why is autism listed as a side effect on the package inserts? Apparently you don’t know that Dr. Wakefield was reinstated.
            https://www.scribd.com/doc/220807175/124-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link

          • AutismDadd

            YAWN same old lame old. Media fed

          • sharkonwhisky

            Nah, this the cold clear scientific truth on the matter. The doctor who first stated there was a link, Dr Andrew Wakefield was found to be LYING and accused of malpractice. He was trying to exploit people and make money out of his bogus claims…it seems to me that many stupid ignorant people would be lining up to line his pockets which is a shame. As a species it seems like we are getting more stupid and ignorant with time.

          • AutismDadd

            Buh Wah Ha Ha media fed

          • Erwin Alber

            Check this out for a much needed reality adjustment:

            http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

          • sharkonwhisky

            I’m not the one in need of a reality adjustment bubba. Please do yourself a favour and read this for thebscientifically backed up truth on the matter:

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-raff/dear-parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines_b_5112620.html

          • Erwin Alber

            I have looked at your mainstream media piece of medical-pharmaceutical crap propaganda featuring media whores paid to tell lies, such as “Vaccines don’t cause autism”. Do they think we are completely stupid? Some of us (like you) obviously are, but by no means everybody. People are waking up, which is why the criminals running the vaccination racket are doing all they can to make vaccinations mandatory.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqgIZN1IMd0

          • sharkonwhisky

            It is not that I think you are completely stupid, it is more that I view you and your kind as very ignorant and pretty stupid at the same time. People are waking up to ever deepening ignorance and delusion. That “media piece” was backed up by scientific research…none of your claims are.

          • AutismDadd

            Get your meds stat.

          • sharkonwhisky

            I wish there was a vaccine for ignorance…I would recommend everyone on this page be front of the queue for that!!

          • Erwin Alber

            A senior CDC scientist has admitted that vaccines cause autism and that he and his colleagues covered up the fact.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCU2DfMBpU

            Of course there is climate change – there has always been and there will always be climate change, but most of the problems caused by the current climate change is the result of geoengineering / chemtrail spraying. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ba249ae10fb32e89a212abab17645fd2736d0533996f407dfad58a0392306de.jpg

          • sharkonwhisky

            The claims of a single scientists are NOT good enough…it was the fraudulent claims of Dr Andrew Wakefield which started this whole thing in the first place, and research has shown zero evidence for a link between vaccines and autism.

          • Erwin Alber

            Whatever. Have all the vaccines you want. I had my most recent vaccination – a tetanus booster – over 40 years ago and since I now know better there is no way I will ever let anyone poison me for profit under the guise of protecting me against infectious diseases ever again. Some of us learn the easy way, some learn the hard way (through vaccine-related injury) and some of us never learn at all because they are too brainwashed.

    • Warren Lauzon

      Anti-science wins again. Trump is an idiot.

      • Roving Gambler

        I know you are but what is Trump?

        • sharkonwhisky

          What a pointless and juvenile retort to what was a statement of indisputable truth. I’m noticing a pattern with you anti logic, anti vax types. If I was in charge I would allow people not to vaccinate as long as they were sterilised so as to reduce some of the litter in the human gene pool.

          • Roving Gambler

            Of course you being in charge will never happen so STFU and be the sheep that you are!

          • sharkonwhisky

            No it really is you who fits the definition of “sheep”…anti logic, anti common sense, Bible thumping moron…seems like they are ten a penny across the pond! I so wish there was a vaccine for stupidity and ignorance, you could do with a stonking dose bubba!!

          • AutismDadd

            Blowin a gasket

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            Shrimp on Whisky…..EVERYOnE can see your complete Lunacy!!! again you can have all of ours..hahahhahhahahahh…LOLOLOLOL….mine are yours..and you can be protected from us..since you have them all….hahhahahahhahhahhahaha

          • sharkonwhisky

            A more fitting name for you would be REVELLINGINBULLSHIT…hahahahahaha. Moron.

            Why can’t you see that Trump is just saying this to get votes…he doesn’t believe this, he is just saying this to appeal to to the lowest common denominators of US society, the scientifically literate morons (which is a substantial chunk of the population). I’m thinking this is why his stance appeals to you guys, right??

          • Erwin Alber

            “Why can’t you see that Trump is just saying this to get votes.”

            It must be then because there are now millions of parents with autistic children – (mostly) thanks to vaccination. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9355f2cd9dee9ab69d3af76b8aa4e4127e2d90126cdf98f93825ff4a5e2d5748.jpg

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            And vote for the very person that supports your TROLLING? Naaaah…I’m not in with the TIN HAT crowd..nor shrimp on whisky…no thanks. You can have my VAXX..and be supported in a toxic environment of big Pharma..good wishes..we all know what shrimp eat..pure S–t!!

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            Why Vaccination Continues

            by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D.

            http://www.tested.net/vaccines/lanctot.html

            The Media Uses These Powerful Tricks to Condition You to Accept Vaccines by
            Jeffry John Aufderheide at VacTruth.com

            http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/the-media-uses-these-powerful-tricks-to-condition-you-to-accept-vaccines/

            From a statistician the risk is actually almost none existent to the disease
            yet far more riskier with each shot. http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/the-vaccine-bubble-by-michael-belkin-pathways-to-family-wellness/#.Uo_dPH-9KK3

            Go to the FDA website, read the list of ingredients and their
            known side affects. Autism alone is listed as a known side affect in at least 3
            if not more vaccines. Learning disabilities is listed in others, seizures,
            death and many other symptoms are listed. Not a single vaccine is listed
            without a side affect so therefore can’t be considered 100% safe.

            Informed consent is
            the backbone of medical ethics. You have the right to say no. Doctors who
            assert that you do not have a choice about vaccines are violating this medical
            code of ethics.

            Increase in cancer
            risk..http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/18/vaccines-increase-cancer-risk.asp

            Doctors 3rd
            leading cause of death in world.. http://extension.oregonstate.edu/coos/sites/default/files/FFE/documents/us_health_care.pdf

            Vaccines warranted obsolete in prevention

            http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/03/15/the-doctor-who-beat-the-british-general-medical-council-by-proving-that-vaccines-arent-necessary-to-achieve-health/

            Vaccines linked to exploding
            autoimmune epidemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns&feature=youtu.be

            Future vaccine manufacturing
            enterprises involving food. http://www.phillymag.com/citified/2015/03/23/scientists-are-growing-vaccine-laced-lettuce-at-pennovation/

            http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/11/118

            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24620624

            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23557271

            Repercussions in animal population – http://modernnotion.com/koalas-have-chlamydia-but-thats-not-whats-killing-them/

            Coming your way…300 experimental GMO
            vaccines.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtWZbIILsbs

            How big pharma manipulates you https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

            Donations to lawmakers in CA to
            mandate vaccines http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article24913978.html

            http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Epidemic-Corporate-Coercive-Government/dp/1620872129

            Vaccines in Cats caused cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658838/

            Humans exposure to vet vaccines
            sequela http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/37/3/407.full

            Autism Thorson fraud link http://deathbyvaccination.com/

            Lepto link…a whole generation of
            autoimmune and disease links.. http://www.thedogplace.org/VACCINES/Leptomania-10052-Jordan.asp

            http://findoutwhocares.org/

            https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2015/05/02/harvard-trained-immunologist-demolishes-california-legislation-that-terminates-vaccine-exemptions/

            http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/christianity-and-the-false-god-of-modern-medicine/

            Gates dumps live polio
            virus/Eugenics http://naturalsociety.com/glaxosmithkline-dumps-45-litres-polio-virus-river/

          • Gavin

            I’m 100% sure you have Autism.

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            You are welcome to all my vaccines…just move East with the rest of the idiots..we don’t want your weakness here in the WEST…a free gift for you..:). hahhahahahhaah

          • Erwin Alber

            Vaccines actually do NOT have “side”-effects because the harm they cause is their main, only and in my estimation INTENDED effect.

          • Roving Gambler

            You are not in charge, air soul!

          • Roving Gambler

            If you wear a hat nobody will see your point.

          • D Wilson

            shrimponwhisky Your not in charge of anything.

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            lOLOLOL…Shrimp “on whisky”.

          • Erwin Alber

            Thank God! Like the medinazis a fascist pig.

            Medical doctors and their treatments are now the third leading cause of deaths in developed countries. Unfortunately most parents are unaware that doctors and vaccines cause far more harm including deaths than the diseases vaccines are used against.

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            WE are number 32 in the world in healthcare…..who is minding the money? Profiteering MD’s and Big Pharma

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            Yeah..SHRIMP..hahahhahhaha

          • sharkonwhisky

            That should be “You’re”. At least learn the basics of English grammar if you wish to try and engage me in debate you illiterate imbecile.

          • Phrnch Mdl

            Ah eugenist, you would like to kill the weak with that mercury and all the other nasties inside vaccines eh? You sick Nazi bastard. Also, the truth reveals itself. Vaccines are eugenics in disguise.

          • Stephan Williams

            I agree with everything in your post but the ignorant reference to “Nazi’s”. Sharkonwhisky isn’t remotely a National Socialist – he’s a repulsive Bolshevik serial liar. The Germans were the good guys. We, and our “All Lies”, were the bad guys with the Soviet psychos, the Bolsheviks, the worst of a sick bunch. It is they who are killing us with their vaccinations, their chemtrails and their poisoned food through their control of our compromised and corrupted governments, international finance and our media.

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            Schill…TROLOVOMIT..that is what Sharkonwhiskey and Gavin are…uck…again..send em to NYC..hahahah I don’t want their weakness disease/cancer ridden contagions in the WEST.

          • Erwin Alber

            I agree completely. Check this out:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqgIZN1IMd0

          • sharkonwhisky

            Ahh the mercury argument! You know there is more mercury in a tin of tuna fish right?? Moron. Vaccines aside, these comments are kinda evidence the human gene pool could probably do with some culling. Incredible levels of stupidity and ignorance have been displayed…supersize American idiocy. “Vaccines are eugenics in disguise” …yeah, sure they are. I so wish there was a vaccine for stupidity and ignorance…

          • Erwin Alber

            You ignore the fact that tuna is EATEN, NOT INJECTED!

            Only psychopaths would inject mercury into a living organism. These psychopaths should in my opinion be HANGED, just as some of the Nazi doctors were hanged for conducting cruel experiments on defenseless people.

          • Erwin Alber

            You are clueless.

            No use talking to you though, which is why I have attached a graphic image by David Dees. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words.

          • Phrnch Mdl

            Sht up you idiot, fish mercury gets processed by the liver and does not go directly to all the sensitive areas. We have filtering mechanisms for eaten stuff you fcking cretin. Not so for injection.

          • Rueben Lancaster

            Wow, another moron posting opinion when all the facts point to the contrary. You boy, are a fool. Do you have any idea in the world about pharmaceutical companies and their decades old agenda to convince people they are sick, and keep them medicated for life? The rate of autism is off the scale and useful idiots like yourself remain ignorant. How many pills do you take a day? Wake up idiot, wake up.

          • Erwin Alber

            Indeed. Those who believe that vaccination has to do with disease prevention are morons and prone to harm their children if they have any. Vaccines don’t prevent, but promote ill-health – by design and intent.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bfc1a05490be40122c2f49f6f363289ad05fbc24ca373b372d780a1f6a57e64b.jpg nes .

          • Stephan Williams

            You are a condescending, willfully ignorant psychotic suffering from a severe case of cognitive dissonance, sharkonwhiskey.

            If you had any facts to back up your dumbass comments, you would have presented them to us.

            And if anyone should be removed from the gene pool it should be dangerous lying trolls like you, not those of us digging for truth in the flotsam generated by Big Business, Big Pharma, Big Media and all the government institutions they have taken over to further their own selfish ends.

            Two recommendations for you:

            First – STFU.
            …and Two, seek professional help.

            And please – pump yourself full of vaccinations at every opportunity. We need the space on this planet for sane and healthy people. Wastes of food like you are only cluttering up the place

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            A++++++++

          • sharkonwhisky

            Stephen, you are an inbred redneck moron.

            Why can’t you see that Trump is just saying this to get votes…he
            doesn’t believe this, he is just saying this to appeal to to the lowest
            common denominators of US society, the scientifically literate morons
            (which is a substantial chunk of the population). I’m thinking this is
            why his stance appeals to you, right??

            Vaccines are a fantastic invention of medical science. Through them we eliminated the terrible disease smallpox from the wild (this is a true inarguable point). I’ve been working out in Ethiopia, and a month ago tested positive for typhoid…luckily I had been vaccinated against it before coming out here. This turned something that could have been very serious into something pretty trivial. A friend who has also worked in Africa had the same experience of contracting typhoid post vaccination and her experience matched mine.

            So I know both from the overwhelming scientific evidence, as well my own personal experience, that VACCINES WORK. They save lives and reduce unnecessary suffering.

            Please do the world a favour Stephen, please go and contract a deadly vaccine preventable disease and remove your inbred genes from the human gene pool. I look forward to pissing on your grave in victory!

          • Phrnch Mdl

            You are fcking retarded. They are supposed to prevent you from getting typhoid and other stuff. But now it is well, they make it less severe. Fcking lying sacks of shit retards.

          • Erwin Alber

            I get the distinct impression that your posts are the ramblings of a demented person sharkonwhisky.

            “Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity.”
            Dr Herbert Shelton, USA

            That explains it.

      • Roving Gambler

        Excuse me, you are an idiot!

        • sharkonwhisky

          Haha says you!! You are in no position to accuse anybody of idiocy, I assure you!! That’s almost cute.

      • Erwin Alber

        He’s an idiot for believing in vaccination, but right on the button as far as vaccines causing autism is concerned.

        • George

          God theses comments are giving me autism.

      • AutismDadd

        What makes science omnipotent? If you refuse to believe Big Pharma has serious issues, you need to get out of the cellar.

      • Bakunin

        I’m amazed how many bite the well-funded propaganda. Look up the ingredients in vaccines. There are so many neurotoxins in them like heavy metals Mercury and Aluminum. These could easily be removed and replaced with healthier ingredients. So ask yourself, why aren’t they? And then consider the vast amount of vaccines given to our kids, the ever increasing amount, each with their own harmful toxins and metals in them. Scientific methodology is all about asking questions, digging deeper. Quickly labeling an idea as quackery is a way of shutting down debate and critical thinking. That is truly Anti-science. so Warren, have you looked into this issue, beyond the Big Pharma-funded research? Are you just repeating what you’ve heard in the media?

      • Erwin Alber

        Trump may or may not be an idiot, but even assuming that he’s an idiot, he still has far more functioning brain cells than all those of vaccinating doctors combined.

        • Warren Lauzon

          And what are your qualifications in the medical field?

          • Erwin Alber

            I have been an anti-vax activist and studied vaccination for over 20 years – doctors get a few hours of brainwashing as part of which they are told that vaccines are safe an effective, which is a lie. In other words, they are given the mushroom treatment, that is they are kept in the dark and fed horse manure.

            Hence, as Dr Eva Snead (USA) says, “Any well-informed parent knows more about vaccination than the average doctor.”

      • Erwin Alber

        At least us anti-vaxers do have science to fall back on because pro-vaxers only have junk science to back up the medical fraud and child abuse that is vaccination.

        • Warren Lauzon

          And tell us what science anti-vaxxer have to back up any of their claims.

      • Rueben Lancaster

        Fool, yeah listen to the gov, they are looking out for you, stop being part of the problem idiot.

    • sharkonwhisky

      Your actual name should be “REVELLINGINBULLSHIT”.

    • REVELLINGINTRUTH

      13 Things You Don’t
      Know About Polio

      1. A pesticide common in the 1800’s was called Paris Green. A green liquid
      because it was a combination of copper and arsenic or lead and arsenic. Some of
      the most toxic substances known to mankind.

      2. This pesticide worked by causing neurological damage in the bugs, causing
      organ failure.

      3. Polio consists of
      symptoms synonymous with neurological damage, causing organ failure.

      4. Heavy metal
      poisoning from lead, mercury and other similar heavy metals manifest lesions on
      neurological tissues, meaning the toxin destroys the nerve/communication
      pathways connecting the brain to the organs in the body.

      5. Polio victims
      present lesions on neurological tissue, that cause the organs to malfunction
      all around the body. (lungs, heart, nerves that control walking etc)

      6. Polio outbreaks hit
      throughout the summer, only during pesticide spraying times. (not the sunless
      and damp winter/spring seasons regarding other disease outbreaks)

      7. Polio had NO
      ability to spread from infected victims to the uninfected. Polio infected
      clusters of people in the exact same areas, suddenly and swiftly.

      8. Parents report
      finding their children paralyzed in and around apple orchards. One of the most
      heavily pesticide sprayed crops of the time (with lead arsenate or copper
      arsenate) were apple orchards.

      9. President Roosevelt
      became paralyzed over night while on his farm in the summer, which contained
      many crops, including apple orchards. He also swam the day prior in a bay that
      was heavily polluted by industrial agricultural run off.

      10. Dr. Ralph Scobey
      and Dr. Mortind Biskind testified in front of the U.S Congress in 1951 that the
      paralysis around the country known as polio was being caused by industrial
      poisons and that a virus theory was purposely fabricated by the chemical
      industry and the government to deflect litigation away from both parties.

      11. In 1956 the AMA
      (The American Medical Association) instructed each licensed medical doctor that
      they could no longer classify polio as polio, or their license to practice
      would be terminated. Any paralysis was now to be diagnosed as AFP (acute
      flaccid paralysis) MS, MD, Bell’s Palsy, cerebral palsy, ALS (Lou Gehrig’s
      Disease), Guillian-Barre etc etc. This was orchestrated purposely to make the
      public believe polio was eradicated by the polio vaccine campaign but because
      the polio vaccine contained toxic ingredients directly linked to paralysis,
      polio cases (not identified as polio) were skyrocketing…but only in
      vaccinated areas.

      12. The first polio
      vaccine was worked on by Dr. Jonas Salk and human experiments using this
      vaccine were conducted purposely on orphans in government/church run
      institutions because they were vulnerable and didn’t require any parental
      consent signatures, as they had no parents. The vaccine was “declared
      safe” by “medicine” (as they always are) and that vaccine gave
      40,000 orphans polio, permanently paralyzed hundreds and killed at least 10 children.
      All injuries and deaths under reported of course by the same authorities who
      orchestrated the atrocity. This was called The Cutter Incident. Have you
      noticed the medical industry’s obsession with poisoning children?

      13. The next
      “improved” polio vaccine, given to hundreds of millions, carried both
      the SV 40 cancer virus as well as the AIDS virus. Every step of the way,
      medicine declaring they know for sure, that this time, they have everything
      straightened out. Same story then, same story now. The only thing larger than
      the pile of broken medical and government promises, is the pile of broken and
      dead bodies.

      When someone talks of
      any disease, in this day and age, they’re just repeating what they were told by
      the government. Repeating what you’re told and intelligence aren’t the same
      thing. Repeating or intelligence. The choice is yours.

      • Jeff

        Did you know salt contains two of the most toxic elements know to man, chloride and sodium!

        • REVELLINGINTRUTH

          Why do you use it? Most people nowadays..use Himalayan Salt and gain the full benefits!! Also, you a Troll? Distract? The issue is purposeful eugenics by disease..which profiteers pharma and the economic industry!!…Mine are yours..you can have my vaccines…their all yours..hahahhahah

        • Erwin Alber

          Mercury and aluminium are arguably more toxic yet are injected into babies and infants by medically trained psychopathic maniacs in white coats who are above the law and are therefore poisoning, maiming and killing children with impunity day in and day out.

    • sharkonwhisky

      REVELLINGINBULLSHIT

  • NotThatGreg

    Perfect. This is the kind of buffoon who still believes this garbage, he’s made it very clear how flimsy and absurd his beliefs are (all based on what he’s ‘heard’) and we are also finding out how much of a buffoon he is on so many other fronts. And also this http://news.unchealthcare.org/news/2015/august-1/unc-scientists-pinpoint-how-a-single-genetic-mutation-increases-autism-risk

    • Ufodi Int

      Your a rothschild gimp

      • NotThatGreg

        Sorry that the UFO aliens did that to you.

    • Realisticandtruelyinformed

      Yeah, it has only been proven FALSE so many times. I really wish people
      would understand that Autism is a neuro-difference, not caused by
      vaccines… what a crock!!! I have Three kids. ONE who is autistic… ALL THREE HAD THE SAME SHOTS. Get a clue! The reason we are having more diagnosis could be better knowledge? D’OH!

  • LauraCondon

    Autism is epidemic and a national crisis, not only in humanitarian terms of suffering and lives lost but in economic terms. We cannot be a 1st rate nation when our children suffer from autism at a rate of 1 in 68…and increasing. The economic cost of caring for millions of growing children with autism and the loss of their economic contributions to society will cripple our country. Trump is smart to raise the issue. He speaks for millions of families all across the nation.

    • Realisticandtruelyinformed

      Autism is not on the rise. The diagnosis rate is because we are better able to diagnose. We have more knowledge. People who fear ASD and lunatics who use scare tactics to put fear in those who do not understand ASD. There is NO correlation between Vaccinations and ASD. It has been proven time and time again, but people listen to groups like Autism $peaks who are actually a hate group and think of ASD as a tragedy. My son is not a tragedy. He is an amazing human. None of the amazing ASD kids and adults I know are. I wish people would try to understand and educate themselves with truth, not listen to the quacks.

      • Manzer Belanger

        So, you are NOT a quack for pushing vaccines ? I dare say you have not followed the real studies that show the correlation. Then you will ask for us to show you he proof and then you will deny that it says exactly what it purports to show. Shills are what is making a mockery of vaccines or no vaccines. You will even say that there are no bad ingredients lie aluminum, mercury, aborted fetus cells, monkey kidney cells, etc and etc. I feel sad for people like you who have no clue what is going on in our supposedly A-1 medical system that is injuring/killing children and adults every day. Over $3,000,000,000.00 paid out to those that proved their case. We ae not in a Third World country – but our vaccinations are making us worse off than those without proper sanitation, food, etc………..

        • NotThatGreg

          Name the “real studies that show the correlation”. And bear in mind that Wakefield’s work was fraudulent. And ask a competent lawyer about what ” proving your case ” actually means in the context of a civil court settlement.

          • Jeanne Price

            Dr. Wakefield has had his license restored and has been vindicated….courts have found that he was right about vaccines causing Autism as well as other diseases and injuries….My daughter did her Capstone Project for her Masters in Legal Studies at WVU on Vaccines and the court cases she uncovered, as well as the data she researched, including nearly 60 studies that prove the relationship between vaccines and Autism are vast.
            I suggest you look up the Nuremberg Code…forced vaccinations are akin to Eugenics practiced by the Nazis during WWII…ALL vaccines are EXPERIMENTAL. There has never been a long-term controlled blind study, vaxed VS un-vaxed done on any vaccine…Also check out Jacobson VS Massachusetts that went to the Supreme Court and is settled law.
            I call the CDC the Centers for Disease Creation…The D stands for Denial, Deception and Disinformation. The CDC and the FDA are the incestuous whores of the Pharmaceutical Companies!

          • NotThatGreg

            “Dr. Wakefield has had his license restored and has been vindicated.. ” I suggest that if you want anyone with any sense of reality to fall for your distortions and misrepresentations, then you don’t start with something which is easily checked and absolutely false. Or are you so deluded by this “movement” that you actually believe that?
            Again, if your daughter found “nearly 60” studies I expect you could name one or two of them? Still waiting.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            He has not – He is still disbarred, and not just for his fraud – but for :

            “Was being paid to conduct the study by solicitors representing parents who believed their children had been harmed by MMR”.

            Ordered investigations “without the requisite paediatric qualifications” including colonoscopies, colon biopsies and lumbar punctures (“spinal taps”) on his research subjects without the approval of his department’s ethics board and contrary to the children’s clinical interests, when these diagnostic tests were not indicated by the children’s symptoms or medical history.

            “Act[ed] ‘dishonestly and irresponsibly’ in failing to disclose … how patients were recruited for the study”.

            “Conduct[ed] the study on a basis not approved by the hospital’s ethics committee.”

            Purchased blood samples—for £5 each—from children present at his son’s birthday party, which Wakefield joked about in a later presentation.

            “[S]howed callous disregard for any distress or pain the children might suffer”

          • G Aucoin

            Read the Wakefield chapter in Vaccination Epidemic to get a broader view of these charges, he explains everything quite well. Not saying anything is okay, it’s just good to know both sides…

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            Lets not forget that Wakefield was only anti the combined MMR jab, he made a nice niche for his practice giving the 3 separately.

          • AutismDad

            Same old BS from an obvious agent of misinformation.

          • christine

            He did spinal taps on children!?! They’re horrifically painful, and from what this quack sounds like, he probably didn’t anesthetize the child…

          • Ann

            I had a spinal tap and didn’t feel a thing!

          • christine

            I imagine you were, or the area was, anesthetized…

          • Ann

            Yes, that is true!

          • christine

            Thank your lucky stars…!

          • AutismDad

            Are you that maggot Brian Deer?

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            Are you familiar with the term “ad hominem”?

          • AutismDad

            Yea Brian you maggot.

          • AutismDad

            Bored with and tired of it being another useless reply from those with blind faith in science pathology.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            If your bored of it, try to not type like an eight year old and have a reasoned argument rather than name calling. And its not blind faith, but repeatable, empirical, peer reviewed evidence based science. Distinct from the pathological science* of the anti-vax movement.
            *Used here in the Irving Langmuir meaning.

          • AutismDad

            Well we can add “An inability to distinguish adult communication from that of an 8 year old” to your list of failures.

          • G Aucoin

            If you read a specific chapter about Wakefield you’d have a very different view on what happened, it was just brutal how he was hung out to dry. Did you know his study was actually trying to FIND a link between autism and intestinal diseases?

          • Al Mather

            Yes he was subsidized by Injury/trial lawyers “ANDREW WAKEFIELD, the former surgeon whose campaign linking the MMR vaccine with autism caused a collapse in immunisation rates, was paid more than £400,000 by lawyers trying to prove that the vaccine was unsafe.” the Deer Report… and you are right he was trying to FIND as opposed to just trying to determine the truth.

          • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

            Plenty of people have been awarded millions of dollars for vaccine related injuries. I guess that money was awarded on no such credible evidence, right? It’s interesting how Autism sky rocketed at the same time the number of vaccines were increased. The most insane part is vaccinating a child within 24 hours of being born. There adaptive immune system isn’t anywhere near being developed. So what the hell are the responding to? Anything to make a buck.

          • Al Mather

            Key words…Credible evidence.
            The rise in Autism also coincides with the marketing of organic food, the use of cell phones…..and probably the number of naturopaths out there doing anything for a buck. Doesn’t imply causation.

          • Susan

            The CDC covers up the “real studies that show the correlation “. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRjn_gIJw0

          • NotThatGreg

            But Jeanne’s daughter “found nearly 60” of them, and yet she can’t name any of them. Hmm, is it possible that the anti-vaxxers are just irresponsibly passing a bunch of misinformation amongst each other, with nobody caring whether any of it is really true? Resulting in terrible outbreaks of preventable diseases, *and* in additional and utterly unwarranted confusion for the parents of children on the autism spectrum – a condition – not a disease- which has *nothing* *whatsoever* to do with vaccines? I am one of those parents, but I can see this tinfoil-hat nonsense for what it is.

            Oh look. A reliable source which is interested in the actual truth, rather than in panicking you so they can sell you ‘alternate supplements’ or ‘nosode’ snake oil. Funny how it didn’t show up in your ‘Google Research’. https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-cdc-whistleblower-saga-updates-backlash-and-i-hope-a-wrap-up/

          • Susan

            There are many studies that show a link between vaccines and autism. . http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/22-medical-studies-that-show-vaccines.html
            I hope everyone will watch the video of Congressman Bill Posey explaining how the CDC found a link and then tried to shred the evidence and lie to the public.
            Greg, you just sound like a pharma shill. The GIG IS Up ! They can not go on damaging so many children and expect ALL of the parents to be too stupid to notice that it happened right after a vaccine.

          • gingercake5

            I’m on your side, but very few know the truth. They just mandated vaccines for children in California, and adults are next on the agenda.

          • NotThatGreg
          • Stacey H

            We are just tilting at windmills here – it’s a crowd of people that don’t understand peer review, and one that’s making bank off of the con. It’s seriously pointless, like convincing cult members to live life in the regular world off the compound.

          • Ann

            Name the studies that show that Wakefield’s work was fraudulent. Show me the studies that prove that aluminum and mercury are harmless especially when injected into a human or an animal.

          • Ann

            Dr. Wakefield’s study was not fraudulent, but keep in mind he is not the only doctor who is against vaccines. There are hundreds of scientists and doctors who condemn vaccines. You don’t know this? Is the mainstream “bought and paid for media” your only source of knowledge? Educate yourself. There is no excuse for ignorance.

      • Jeanne Price

        When the only vaccines given were oral polio and the DPT vaccine…the incidence of Autism was 1 in 110,000…now that 32 vaccines are required before a child enters Kindergarten the incidence of Autism is now 1 in 50, especially for boys…When a child gets a vaccine and they stop making eye contact, stop all language and start having meltdowns…it doesn’t take a genius to make the diagnosis.
        They stopped vaccinating all babies under the age of two in Japan and the incidence of SIDS dropped 95%…
        You are in denial!

        • Michael McCarthy

          “They stopped vaccinating all babies under the age of two in Japan and the incidence of SIDS dropped 95%”
          got a citation for that? They changed the DPT (Tdap) schedule in 1975 and the number of cases of pertussis skyrocketed (from 393 in 1974 to 13,000+ in 1979), as did the number of deaths from it (from 0 in 1974 to 41 in 1979). But, it also seems that there was a bit of cherry picked data going on there. There number of claims of SIDS related to vaccine dropped, not the actual number of SIDS cases.

          • JO

            Then just continue to vaccinate your loved ones. We really don’t care what you do.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Gosh, my 3 nieces all have been vaccinated. One is at Notre Dame and will graduate a year early, one just skipped a grade and the third’s father doesn’t want the school to move her up so they have her in a special advanced program. No autism, no diseases. Funny how that works, Jo.

          • CAS

            If they are in college now, they did not receive the “battery” of vaccinations at the condensed rate that kids today are getting. Vaccinations are a good thing, and they work, however the danger is in administering them all at one time to young kids, some children’s systems do not seem to respond well to the onslaught. But hey….perhaps it is survival of the fittest and those kids who develop disorders due to their inability to process the onslaught of vaccinations at one time are easily weeded out as they develop issues that make them none productive parts of society.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Reading comprehension not your strong suit? ONE is in college. ONE is 10. ONE is 9. My cousin has 2 children, 1 boy and 1 girl, both vaccinated. ages 3 and 6, perfectly normal. 2 of my good friends growing up have children ages 2, 5 and 8. All vaccinated, all perfectly normal. The brother of my friends (they are sisters) was not vaccinated for anything until required by the school at age 6, has ASD. Imagine that. All of you whackos blow everything out of proportion, as though vaccines are mentally damaging some huge percentage of the population or making them sick which just isn’t true.

          • Ann

            The science is in. Vaccines contain aluminum and mercury. They are metals that cause damage to the neurological system. Vaccines are dangerous. All vaccines do harm in way way or others.

          • Michael McCarthy

            You’re right, the science is in. Vaccines save lives. Micro amounts of adjuvants don’t hurt people.

          • Ann

            The science is in, vaccines do not prevent disease, they cause disease and death. VAERS paid out billions of dollars in vaccine injury and continues to pay out. Aduvants don’t cause damage? Are you kidding me? The facts speak for themselves!

            10,000 children lost their lives to Bill Gate’s wonderful polio vaccine in India. 48,000 and counting have been paralyzed by the same wonderful vaccine. Where have you been?

          • Michael McCarthy

            Blah blah blah. If vaccines didn’t prevent disease there would be a lot more dead people. But luddites such as yourself think vitamin C and clean water magically got rid of the worlds nasties. Why am I even debating? You aren’t a doctor, you’ve probably never taken past an 8th grade science class. Luckily, doctors, microbiologists, virologists and immunologists are all smarter than you so we have vaccines.
            And, no, they weren’t paralyzed by the vaccine, that is more anti-vax nonsense.

          • Ann

            Your lying again. Yes, they were paralyzed and so were many children in Nigeria who were vaccinated under the Bill Gate’s foundation. There are many doctors and scientists who are against vaccines and they are very vocal about it. Are you too ignorant to know this? Do I have to list their names? I will. All these doctors are a lot smarter than you. That is very obvious. By the way, I have a Masters what are your credentials? You come across as super ignorant!

          • Michael McCarthy

            I didn’t say they weren’t paralyzed. I said it wasn’t the vaccine. Please learn to read better Ann.
            Sure, list names like the “doctor” Sherry Tenpenny. Or maybe you want to cite the criminal Andrew Wakefield.
            And at the end of the day, I know that NOT going to medical school was the right choice, because there is no point saving morons like yourself that are so easily fooled into the anti-vax propaganda. Too bad I didn’t go into viral research, maybe I could have removed your genes from the breeding pool.

          • Ann

            It wasn’t the vaccine? Then what was it? Well, I guess this proves that you are as ignorant as I thought you were.

            Removing my genes from the gene pool? I hope everyone who reads your posts can realize how arrogant and ignorant you really are. That would be impossible!

            Yes, not going to med school was the right choice for you because you would never have graduated unless you bought your diploma.

            My guess is that you have been vaccinated too much and you are brain damaged.

          • Michael McCarthy

            ” Then what was it?”
            You’re the one throwing out the statistic and you don’t know? Cute. There are other viruses out there that cause paralysis, enterovirus 2, coxsackie, etc.

            “Yes, not going to med school was the right choice for you because you would never have graduated unless you bought your diploma.”
            No, you don’t get accepted to medical school without performing on your MCAT. Sadly, that wasn’t the problem.

            “My guess is that you have been vaccinated too much and you are brain damaged.”
            No, there weren’t too many available for my generation. MMR, tetanus, flu, TDaP. Is insulting my intelligence all you have? I notice you didn’t say what you “masters” was in. I’d be tempted to guess “nutrition”.

            “Nice brother. Throwing your sister under the bus.”
            I don’t think stating a plain fact about her is throwing her under the bus. She can’t boil water.

            ” You must really be jealous of her education.”
            Nope. She went into teaching. Now ask me how she passed the math and science requirements. Hint: someone you’re talking to had to tutor her in high school and college.

            “Go back to school and learn something!”

            Actually, you should take that advice. Ohio State has a great microbiology program that might help you. Micro 661 and 662 should prove the most helpful. After you’ve done actual lab work with viruses and vaccines, you might not be so histrionic.

          • Ann

            “..what you masters was in..” Obviously you are not educated enough to know when to use the word you and the word your. Maybe your sister can help you figure it out.

          • Michael McCarthy

            oh dear, I left off a letter while typing, not quite the same as not knowing the difference between your and you’re is it? Did you check into the Micro program at Ohio State yet? Seriously, micro 661 and 662 will really help you figure out the truth.

          • Ann

            I think you need to go to Ohio State. If you went there, obviously you didn’t learn a thing! Just what are your credentials? You sound like you are mentally challenged!

            You also left off a capital letter on “oh dear”. Maybe your sister could teach you when to capitalize!

          • Michael McCarthy

            Why would I need to go to Ohio State? I already went there. Thus why I would suggest you look into the micro program there. You know, the one I already went through, how else would I know that micro 661 and 662 could be of use to you? Didn’t think your response through very well, did you?

          • Ann

            You would go to Ohio State because you need to go again. You never learned anything the first time you attended. What are your credentials? Do you have a Masters in the Art of Knowing It all?

          • Michael McCarthy

            I don’t think I need to go again. I think I’ve made it plain what my area of study was, apparently you need it spelled out? You claimed to have a masters, yet when asked you failed to answer. Why is that? You are posting the same type of comments to multiple people on here. “Get an education” seems to be your tic.
            I have a masters in the art of sniffing out others bullpucky, you drop a whole lot of it.

          • Ann

            Well, I see you are circumventing my simple question, “What are your credentials?” This leaves me to believe you have none. People like you take a few courses and they think they “know it all.” When I read posts like yours my standard comment is , “Educate yourself.” Blowhards like you need to hear that advice over and over again.

          • Michael McCarthy

            A few courses? 4 years of study is a few courses, eh? You failed to answer my question as to your “masters”, so why should I answer yours.

          • Ann

            Four years of study? You should be at the point where you know you don’t know it all. You need to further your education to the point where you mature and realize how little you really know. You obviously have a self-esteem problem which manifests itself by your show of arrogance and false pride. GROW UP!

          • Michael McCarthy

            “You should be at the point where you know you don’t know it all”
            I didn’t claim to know it all. However, much more than you on this topic. You still failed to answer what your “masters” was in. I’m left to assume that was a big lie meant to intimidate. Didn’t work.

            “You obviously have a self-esteem problem “
            Not at all.

            “GROW UP!”
            Take your own advice, Ann.

          • Ann

            I have a Masters in Education and have taught for over 30 years. I have taught at the college and university level.
            I am not a liar. Now, let’s hear about your credentials and education level. What are your accomplishments? You, do have a self-esteem problem because you are misrepresenting yourself as an authority of which you are not!

            I have no intention of intimidating anyone. Having a degree should not intimidate anyone. There are millions of people who are a lot smarter than you or me who have no degrees.

            I am entitled to my opinion on dangerous and life-threatening vaccines. I have been studying them for at least 25 years.

          • Michael McCarthy

            “I am entitled to my opinion on dangerous and life-threatening vaccines. I have been studying them for at least 25 years.”
            Based on that statement alone, I don’t believe a word you say. Well, and your comment that Edward Jenner killed his son with the vaccine, which is an outright lie, since his son died from TB. Bye Felicia, enjoy your life of ignorance.

          • Ann

            Oh, wait a minute Mr. Mouth. You haven’t revealed to me all of your noteworthy credentials and degrees! Don’t miss this opportunity to brag about yourself. Yes, Jenner’s son did die from the vaccine and so did his childhood friend, who was also experimented on. The TB was just another disease the boy contracted from the weakened immune system caused by the vaccine. You need to study more. You are very limited!

          • Michael McCarthy

            ” Yes, Jenner’s son did die from the vaccine and so did his childhood friend, who was also experimented on”
            Nope, he died from TB. A very common disease at the time. It also killed Jenner’s wife who, wait for it, wasn’t given Jenner’s treatment. Pray tell, what was the nature of the “vaccine” and by what method was it administered and how does that differ from the modern vaccine and how it is administered?

            “You haven’t revealed to me all of your noteworthy credentials and degrees!”

            I already explained it. Since you can’t seem to put a few things together, BS from Ohio State, Microbiology. I declined the option for medical school (Wright State) AND graduate work in 2 labs at Ohio State. So, I have actually worked with bacteria, viruses and vaccines. Have you?
            I am left wondering what it is you teach. I can only hope it isn’t science, because I feel sorry for any student that would have to suffer you as a teacher.

          • Ann

            You may have worked worked with bacteria and viruses so you know how dangerous they are when injected into a human being.

            Please do all of your experiments on your own body and leave the rest of humanity out of your “mad” scientist experiments.

            I see they are now using GMOs in vaccines. How long has this been going on? It is no wonder that our health industry in our country is so lucrative. People like you are making our population sicker than ever before in history

            You should all be locked up.

          • Michael McCarthy

            So, unable at all to answer the questions on Jenner then? No surprise there.

            “You may have worked worked with bacteria and viruses so you know how dangerous they are when injected into a human being.”
            Yes, I know how dangerous they are when injected into a human being in their natural state. If you had ever done any work with them, which obviously you haven’t, you would have a different take. Instead, you get information from places like Natural News and Mercola and buy their scare tactics hook, line and sinker.

            “People like you are making our population sicker than ever before in history”
            Our population is living longer than ever and has undergone a radical lifestyle change. With an aging population, more sick people would be expected comparative to the past since people, you know, DIED. If this was 1900, you would probably have died from any number of diseases or childbirth and you certainly wouldn’t be “educated”, but you don’t care about those types of truth. You people are the loons that think life was so great before vaccines.

            BTW, my great, great, great, great grandfather, Edward Jenner, would be appalled that people like you exist, I have no doubt.

          • Ann

            Close your eyes to the fact that Cancer was practically unheard of before vaccines. Cancer is now one out of two and these so called learned scientist and doctors can’t come up with a cure.

            You know so much? Where is your cure for the common cold? You don’t have one, but you do know that all of our babies should be injected with garbage. You disgust me!

            The vaccine manufacturers however do know how to load the vaccines with SV40 to be made available to inject 98 million people with monkey cancer viruses. What a great contribution to humanity!!

            Open your eyes and see the damage these vaccines are doing to people. Now we have Gardasil, which is destroying so many of our young girls, and just recently our boys. Testing vaccines and experimenting on our children is criminal! Criminals need to be locked up.

            I am appalled that people like Jenner and people like you who advocate for this murder by needle exist.

          • Michael McCarthy

            “Close your eyes to the fact that Cancer was practically unheard of before vaccines”
            Is lying all that you know how to do? First, people DID die from cancer before vaccines. Second, people AREN’T dying of things that were killing them.
            http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922292.html
            http://www.businessinsider.com/leading-causes-of-death-from-1900-2010-2012-6

            “Cancer is now one out of two and these so called learned scientist and doctors can’t come up with a cure”
            If you weren’t an uneducated buffoon, you would be well aware of the challenges in treating cancer.

            “Where is your cure for the common cold?”
            1) How many different viruses cause “the common cold”?
            2) How many known variations are there for Rhinovirus A?

            ” You disgust me!”
            Right back at you, babe.

            “The vaccine manufacturers however do know how to load the vaccines with SV40”
            The live version was only in the Sabin vaccine up until 1961. And they didn’t know that the virus was there when they began producing the Polio vaccine. Furthermore, SV40 has never been shown to CAUSE cancer in humans.
            http://www.virology.ws/2010/04/13/poliovirus-vaccine-sv40-and-human-cancer/

            “98 million people”
            I find no definitive proof of this number. Your friends at Natural News seem to propagate this one.

            “Open your eyes and see the damage these vaccines are doing to people.”
            Yes, because people getting sick, permanently damaged or dying from diseases prior to vaccines was so much better, wasn’t it?
            edit: forgot this http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2014/06/pre-vaccine-declines-in-measles.html

            So you’re nothing more than the usual anti-vax liar, no surprise. Never did answer my question about Jenner’s treatment either. You know nothing, but you like to spout BS as though you have any facts (never seen you post a single citation, just junk).

          • Ann

            You’re the brilliant scientist. If science can’t come up with a cure for the common cold(s) or a cure for cancer, what good are they. There are more people dying of cancer,and the protocols for curing cancer than ever before in history. Cancer was rare before the onslaught of vaccines and I am old enough to know that for a fact… so were autism, learning disabilities not caused by alcoholism and neurological damage

            What you are saying is that scientists are so ignorant that nothing has improved. I agree with that! They are making things so much worse with their money making vaccine concoctions. Vaccines which are filled with aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, monkey viruses, aborted fetal tissue, polysorbate 80- and a host of other contaminants. What a great contribution to our world! Polysorbate 80 itself is known to cause infertility in lab animals. I know you know that, so why deny it?

            Every citation you have ever posted is just garbage, with skewed data paid for by pharma. That stuff isn’t worth the paper it is written on.

            I suppose you think it is a good idea to inject 98 million people with monkey cancer viruses, which have been proven to produce cancer in lab animals. Are you kidding me? People who have died from cancer, when autopsied, have been found to have SV40 in their tissues.

            If putting cancer cells in vaccines is just an unfortunate mistake then all these negligent people should be in jail. If it was not a mistake they are evil and should be incarcerated. Government and scientists have no right to play around experimenting and injecting humans and animals with poisons. It is criminal. Remember the Nuremberg trials?

            The only people who are living longer today are the people who haven’t been vaccinated to the max. The rest of the population is chronically ill, and /or learning disabled if they haven’t already died of SIDs.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Did you cut and paste that from Mike Adams?

          • Ann

            Mike Adams knows a lot more than you do. He forgot more than you’ll ever know!

            You know nothing about Dr. Jenner. I know he killed his son by experimenting with him and his son’s friend, too. That is all I need to know.

            I have a question for you? Do you work for a living? How can you spend hours and hours of your time posting on this site. I am retired, so I have an excuse. When I was working I didn’t have one minute of extra time to blab on the internet.

          • Michael McCarthy

            “Mike Adams knows a lot more than you do. He forgot more than you’ll ever know!”
            Mike Adams wouldn’t know a rectum from an oral cavity.

            “You know nothing about Dr. Jenner”
            You’re still incorrect on that one. My family still has Jenner items that weren’t donated to the Jenner museum. I think I probably know A LOT more about him than you ever will.

            ” I know he killed his son by experimenting with him and his son’s friend, too. That is all I need to know.”
            Well, too bad you don’t know $h*t. You’re still wrong. You still can’t explain the vaccination method Jenner used and how that is different from today’s. But you sure do like to quote Mike Adams.

            “I have a question for you? Do you work for a living?”
            Maybe I am independently wealthy. Maybe I am homeless and spend the day in the library online. Maybe I am better with technology than you could ever dream of being.

            ” I am retired, so I have an excuse.”
            being retired is no excuse for being an uninformed ignoramus. You remind me of my grandma, bitter evil old woman so stuck in her beliefs no matter how misguided. Listen grandma, there is a world of good information out there, I don’t know why you insist on reading the garbage. Maybe someone in your sewing circle or church group got you started on it, I don’t know.

            “When I was working I didn’t have one minute of extra time to blab on the internet.”

            Back then, you dialed in on a 28K baud modem and paid for an ISP by the hour and more than likely didn’t have access at work. Times sure have changed, haven’t they.

          • Ann

            I know one thing for sure, if you work for a company you are cheating them and wasting your time and theirs with such garbage.

            You are a very ignorant and uninformed individual, but one thing I can say about you is that you are persistent in your ignorance.

            I don’t know why you seem to be so proud to be related to Dr. Jenner. He is a baby killer!

            You have a very poor self esteem. I see this because you are trying so hard to be important in your field but in reality you know nothing. You do know, however, how to keyboard, because that is how you spend 99% your time. By this time, you should be an expert at snarky ignorant remarks, congratulations!

          • Michael McCarthy

            “I know one thing for sure, if you work for a company you are cheating them and wasting your time and theirs with such garbage”
            Maybe I am simply very efficient and a valued member of my workplace. Maybe I have saved them more money than any single person that has ever been hired. So, maybe, they don’t care. Ever think about that? Nope, it would require thought.

            Look grandma, you haven’t provided anything to support your points. Not one thing. I’ve posted actual facts and citations. You make assumptions about who I am and what I know, yet you haven’t shown yourself to know anything. I’ve asked you simple questions which you fail to answer.

            Yes, I am proud to be related to Edward Jenner. He isn’t a baby killer. Maybe you are. No, actually, anyone that denies the usefulness of vaccines is a baby killer. Don’t bother responding, grams, unless you can provide something to support your useless position.

          • Ann

            You act more like and old lady, grandma than I do. By the way are you a man or a woman? Real masculine men never write the whiney garbage that you write nor do they respond like you do.

            I understand, now, that you are not working at all., You are making $ by being a shill for a vaccine company. You would never be valuable to any company you are too lazy to work!

          • Michael McCarthy

            Aww, grandma, did I hurt your feelings, because you’ve been the one whining, not me. Maybe gramps can pop a little blue pill, slather some KY on your dried out old cooze and go to town. Maybe that will lift your spirits.

          • Ann

            Well, Mr. Pervert. Now you show your true colors. You are just an ignorant, narcissistic, homosexual pervert. You give a bad name to homosexuality.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Aw, a gay basher too. Look at my surprised face.

          • Jason

            One out of two??? You don’t do well with facts, do you?

          • Ann

            Look it up. I did not make this up! Actually, we all contain cancer cells. It is just a matter of time!

          • Jason

            I have looked it up. Many times. It’s not even close to that. Current CDC data shows cancer I incidents are 491 per 100,000 people. In other words, 1 in 200… Not 1 in 2.

            https://nccd.cdc.gov/uscs/cancersbystateandregion.aspx

          • Ann

            You know nothing about Dr. Jenner. You pretend you are so knowledgeable. Your posts don’t cut it!

          • Michael McCarthy

            I know nothing about Dr. Jenner? Hmm, I don’t think that’s the case. I can answer my own question, you can’t seem to. What does that say? Seems that you don’t know $h*t but you like to pretend.
            My posts don’t cut it? No, those would be yours. Failure to cite anything, all you do is regurgitate garbage you have read on anti-vax sites. Mike Adams is your hero. You make these emotional pleas about killing and poisoning children, typical anti-vax scare tactics.
            I bet you lied about being a teacher too.

          • JoeFarmer

            “I bet you lied about being a teacher too.”

            Ya think? LOL! Was there some kind of legislation passed where every nutter in an institution is entitled to some amount of internet access per day? Or was it a Circuit Court decision somewhere?

            Is FEMA required to grant equal internet access to all those people at the internment camps?

            I’m gonna need workers for my Hungarian corn production arbitrage plan. Might as well hire those with some computer skills, right?

          • Michael McCarthy

            Much like you get angry with non-farmers pretending to know something about it, so I get peeved at people that have never been in a lab working with bacteria and viruses but claim they know how horrible vaccines are.
            I wouldn’t hire any of these people to work for you, they probably would get caught in the equipment. Then you’ve got to explain to authorities, possibly pay restitution to their families, etc. Much easier to hire locals in Hungary that would probably work hard and be happy to have a job since their economy is in the toilet.

          • JoeFarmer

            Exactly. My sister is a pathologist – lab adminstrator at a relatively important Western U.S. hospital (not like Cedars Sinai; think northeast, but not where potatoes are king). According to her, as the lab equipment gets more sophisticated, the work comp injuries become more creative.

            She actually has to lead workplace safety training where she is required to stick to the script that says to not stick the end of the coat hangers into the electrical outlets. I swear I’m not making this up. All driven by hospital administration and the insurance company so they don’t get tagged by OSHA. Because if one person sticks the coat hanger in the outlet, when the second one does, it becomes a “willful violation” in the eyes of OSHA.

            Someone like me would say, “Just buy those big fat plastic coat hangers from Walmart, problem solved.” But everything in the lab has to have some kind of standards approval pedigree, so those Walmart coat hangers are a no-go. One lil’ chica filed a discrimination complaint against her when she was told no acrylic nail tips – too big of an infection control hazard. Discrimination because this lil’ chica was the only one in the lab with fake nails.

            So in a way, I’m grateful to live where you can put your kid in a grain bin without any consequences – you know I’m kidding, but still…we probably have an average of 5+ grain bin fatalities every year which is inexcusable. Plus a couple of fatalities where someone backs a grain auger into a power line. And even with ROPS canopy requirements, we still lose at least a couple of people a year to tractor roll-overs. Ugh.

            There is just no way to legislate against this stuff. We need a better educated populus. But spending on schools just supports teachers’ unions, so that’s a no-go…

          • Michael McCarthy

            OMG, OSHA and their “willful violations”. Been there with them.
            I am actually surprised that there are that many grain bin fatalities. These can’t be people that have been around them all of their life, unless they are just too lackadaisical.
            I agree, legislation isn’t the answer. We need to make people more accountable for their actions, rather than pandering to them through the court system. I worked for a company that had to pay for a guy that got “injured” on the job, which he claimed turned him into an alcoholic which made him impotent which made his wife leave him. The guy worked a total of 11 hours on the job and made off with 100K plus medical benefits for 10 years (the only consolation for me was that his huckster attorney got 60%). Years ago, that wouldn’t have been the case. My mother’s grandfather worked in a glass factory as the floor supervisor. He was crushed by a pane of plate glass that wasn’t properly secured in the lift clamps by 2 employees. Guess how much his widow got in compensation (this was 1948)? ZERO (not entirely true, the company had to pay funeral costs), when there clearly should have been compensation. If people stopped getting paid for stupid BS, the stupid BS would stop happening as much.

          • JoeFarmer

            Employment law (and some maritime law and family law/probate stuff) is how my better half makes most of her money. So ya, I know what you’re saying. She does mostly defense, but once every 3 years or so, she is plaintiff’s attorney for a particularly interesting case. She got some sketchy woman perm-total disability and got 30% of the award. Which is more than I earn on the farm in an entire year. She tended the case for about 30 months, but still. She scored by watching the process and pounced. Good for her.

            I need to figure out a way where I can host Caitlin Jenner, the rest of the Kardashians and that guy that did, “Ice, Ice Baby” on my farm and have them help me at harvest time. Something like “Survivor on Joe’s Farm”.

            But who’s going to run that show, when there’s stuff about parking meter wars…

          • Michael McCarthy

            “I need to figure out a way where I can host Caitlin Jenner, the rest of the Kardashians and that guy that did, “Ice, Ice Baby” on my farm and have them help me at harvest time. Something like “Survivor on Joe’s Farm”.”
            Maybe you could get Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie to revive their show “The Simple Life”. You just can’t actually have them do any work because it will cost you too much and I wouldn’t trust either of those crack ho’s on a tractor or combine.
            BTW, you can’t have Vanilla Ice on your property because he steals stuff. I think he can work a back hoe and front loader, but they might come up missing when he leaves.

          • JoeFarmer

            I would fully expect to have some NASA-approved bio-barrier before I let any on those people sit on my tractor seat.

            You probably don’t know this, but tractors and combines these days have big enough cabs to have jump seats. And my mutt dog from the rescue league is the only one allowed on the jump seat. I don’t want my dog getting cooties from these people.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Tractors have jump seats? That’s nice that you can take the dog out with you, though. Does he get strapped in? I’d hate to see the dog jump out and get squished chasing a rabbit or something.

            The only thing I really know about tractors and combines is from when I was young growing up with the farm kids. The one guy I went to school with, his grandpa had an arm ripped off in some farm accident, I think it was a thresher but I can’t remember anymore. I just remember he was missing the arm and the shoulder and it creeped me out.

          • JoeFarmer

            Equipment cabs are fully enclosed these days, so no danger for the dog.

            Take a look at the Case/IH or Deere websites. I think you’d be surprised how sophisticated equipment is these days.

          • Michael McCarthy

            That Deere 9X looks more like a tank than a piece of farm equipment. Is there a tank gun option for killing varmints??

          • JoeFarmer

            You’d be surprised. A lot of the grain bin fatalities are men under 40. Who should know better, but everyone that’s ever worked on a farm knows that you have to cut some corners sometimes.

            We are finally to the point where the Volunteer Fire Departments have some rescue equipment. Ideally, an RFD that responds to a bin accident is equipped with a quickie saw, where they can cut a triangular hole near ground level to drain the bin. But the full rescue squad is expensive, so the local FD has to call their mutual aid help. Then the guys that really attack, scramble up to the top of the bin with a 2 man crew, cut their way in and hopefully have a rescue tube. You can goo.gl grain bin rescue tube.

            Going to funerals is one thing (creepy), but going to a farmer’s funeral that’s younger than you is pretty awful. Been there, done that, helped pay for the tombstone at the Lutheran cemetary, didn’t get a t-shirt.

            What is even worse is when one man gets buried in a bin and another guy tries to help. Then you have two funerals in one week. There was a father and son fatality earlier this year, I didn’t know either of them, but…two widows and a bunch of children without fathers and a bunch of grandchildren without a grandpa. Ugh.

          • hyperzombie

            Don’t they teach this in school? I remember when I was in grade 6 or 7, we spent a half a day on why you should never go into a grain bin and the other half a day on why you should never carry a pre loaded weapon over rough terrain. They showed us horrible photos of blood coming out of the auger, and accidental shooting victims. They explained how to deal with bin bridging issues without going into the bin and how to unload and safely walk with weapons(rifles)

          • Michael McCarthy

            OK, I just watched a video on that. Kind of like drowning in grain, which is bad. I’d still prefer that to dying in a fire (or, worse, not dying in a fire). Why can’t they put a bulk head at the bottom to let the grain out in the event of an accident instead of having to cut a hole?

          • JoeFarmer

            Grain exerts a lot of pressure against the walls of the bin, especially down low. Not simple to design an outswinging door that can resist the pressure. And people don’t really expect to need to use such a thing, so I guess that’s part of it, too.

          • Michael McCarthy

            I get the pressure thing, which would be why I asked about a bulk head, we use them in aquaculture systems (10,000+ gallons) so I know they can handle pressure. I guess I’m just a little surprised that OSHA doesn’t require some sort of safety device built in.

          • heavyhanded

            You have made 125 comments in 2 days, and you have only 75 upvotes. Your profile shows you have 18 followers and are following 21. So according to what your profile reveals you have received way less upvotes as your comments. I would say that no one gives a shiiiitt what you think!

          • Michael McCarthy

            And you’ve proven to be a stalker. Nobody cares what you think, since you never say anything of value. Personal attack, personal attack, personal attack. Go let your wife put you in your diapey and little pink dress with a pacifier before she spanks you.

          • heavyhanded

            Your a little stalk duster. Do you read you read joeys comment about your . America knows now. Cpersuasion

          • Michael McCarthy

            “Do you read you read joeys comment”
            You must seem to think 1) it is a secret ( it is 2015, BTW, not 1967) 2) that I would care

            Yes, I did read it. And did he say anything negative? Nope. You’re the one making a big deal out of it.

          • heavyhanded

            What happened in 1967? I only mentioned your boy joey outed you, that’s all. Get married.

          • Michael McCarthy

            What happened in 1967? They just made a movie about it. Again, you seem to think I care about being outed. Oh no. Everyone around me has known for over 20 years, it isn’t exactly a secret. Why would I marry Joe? You seem to think that I support gay marriage.

          • heavyhanded

            Read! Your getting a little sensitive…. Did I suggest you marry joey? So your gay and you don’t support gay marriage? What movie are talkin about? Your a joke!

          • Michael McCarthy

            Actually, I’m not getting sensitive at all. Obviously you’re getting a little excited with your little “Read!”.
            I believe you did suggest I marry Joe when you said, “I only mentioned your boy joey outed you, that’s all. Get married.”

            “What movie are talkin about?”
            I’m sorry that you seem to live under a rock. Also, please use real sentences, not whatever that was.

            “Your a joke!”

            Why? Because I actually know things? I know it must be hard to live in whatever bubble you live in, but being educated and up to date on things is usually considered a positive quality.

          • heavyhanded

            Get a grip on reality. Stop, we are talkin GMO’s not your decision to maybe become Caitlyn 2

          • Michael McCarthy

            Nope, you weren’t talking about GMO at all. And since when does being gay equate to being trans? My you are a bigot, aren’t you?

          • heavyhanded

            Yes I do, if my comments against GMO’s have gone over your head’ then I guess your the one the one that’s in a closet!

          • Michael McCarthy

            Your reading comprehension is pretty abysmal. Allow me to refresh your memory as to how you weren’t discussing GMO at all, rather making a personal attack.

            https://disqus.com/home/discussion/yournewswire/donald_trump_vaccines_cause_autism/#comment-2229179812

            BTW, genius, the article you are commenting on here is about Donald Trump and vaccines. But you’re so brain dead you don’t even know where you’re commenting. Just stalking.

          • heavyhanded

            My upvotes come new internet friends that share my passion of safe food, that makes them awesome people! So now let’s’ look at your upvotes…….oops I don’t see any…oh wow. .don’t cry!

          • Michael McCarthy

            It isn’t a popularity contest to see who can get the most upvotes. If that is how you measure your personal value, you are a very sad individual. Working the internet cafe today?

          • heavyhanded

            The difference is no one pays me to express my opinion on eating safely!

          • Michael McCarthy

            Well, no one pays me to express my opinion either. Thankfully, your opinion carries about as much weight as a photon.

          • heavyhanded

            So if that’s true, why do you make 60-70 comments a day?

          • Michael McCarthy

            What difference does that make? You do know that you can comment from a phone, a tablet, a computer…wait, you’re only able to comment when you’re working the internet cafe. Well, here in the real world, you can comment wherever.

          • heavyhanded

            The real world? Wake up dopey, you are paid to comment on a dozen websites a day on articles that contain opposition to corporate view on GMO’s and glyphosate. If we are to believe you are not a paid shill and are working in another industry, then if I were your employer and found out you were spending all this time daily concentrating this much effort and time on GMO’s , I would fire you!

          • Michael McCarthy

            Nope, I am not paid a dime to comment, that is your fallacy. Again, please take note of the title of the article that you are commenting on. See the word GMO anywhere in there? DumbF**k

          • Ann

            Got a citation for that?

          • Michael McCarthy

            Like you’ll read them? Please. But I’ll go ahead and post it anyway.

            http://www.drwile.com/lnkpages/render.asp?vac_SIDS

            http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/immunise.htm

          • Ann

            Yes, I read them. These are both mere opinions. Dr. Wile is not even a medical doctor. These citations were probably funded by the pharmaceutical industry.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Oh, OK. They give citations for the actual figures. BTW, you don’t have to be an MD (and preferably you wouldn’t be) to do statistical analysis. But, sure, they were funded by Big Pharma because Ann thinks so. Ann probably thinks the world is 6000 years old too.

          • Ann

            It doesn’t take a a genius to realize that vaccines contain aluminum and mercury. These metals, especially when injected, destroy brain cells and nerve cells. This is common knowledge. This is scientifically proven. I am not even mentioning the other toxic garbage they put into vaccines.This has nothing to do with what I think. Even in tiny trace amounts of these metal do damage. What is the matter with you? Can’t you understand this basic principle?

          • Michael McCarthy

            No, I understand the reality of it, you seem to believe the whacko woo. In case you aren’t aware, your body processes trace toxins ALL the time. And only 1 vaccine still uses thimerosal, the Influenza A vaccine. Oh darn. And it isn’t scientifically proven that these things destroy brain and nerve cells. My brain still functions quite well. You probably avoid vaccines, so that is probably proof that not getting vaccinated actually damages brain cells.
            But you know what the funniest part about your previous comment is? You state that what I cited was funded was by Big Pharma. Now, think for a minute Ann. Japan delayed the Tdap cycle, so kids were still getting it. So, delaying it wouldn’t actually cost Pharma any money in the longrun. So, even if every other country followed suit, they still get paid. So, they wouldn’t care one way or another what the schedule was.

          • Ann

            You are stating your opinions as if it they were fact, which they not. Problem is the body is trying to process these heavy metals and directing them right to the brain and nervous system to do damage. Toxins are not good for the body.
            Obviously your brain is not functioning well. There are so many “unintended consequences ” or maybe they are “intended” from being vaccinated that VAERS even admits it and has paid out BILLIONS in damages.
            Pharma makes billions on their drugs whether one gets sick from vaccines or not. What the vaccine industry likes to do is cause illness via the vaccine and then cash in on the diseases they cause. It is a win- win situation for them. They are psychopaths! Vaccines are a “cash cow” for the government and for Pharma. Delaying vaccines doesn’t cost Pharma a dime!!

          • Michael McCarthy

            I’m sorry, is there something productive you can add that doesn’t come from a woo site?

          • Ann

            There is nothing productive that you post. It is all a bunch of media lies and pharmacy propaganda to line their pockets at the expense of the people gullible enough and threatened enough to buy into “death by vaccines.”

          • Michael McCarthy

            Right. Stick to your ideology. There is no convincing the staunch luddite.

          • Warren Lauzon

            What a pile of woo. The amounts are so tiny that eating a rice grain size piece of tuna fish would give you more Mercury. You get more Aluminum from cooking pans and tinfoil (tinfoil is not just for hats, you know).

          • Ann

            Any aluminum and mercury injected into a human being is damaging. Why would anyone in their right mind inject toxins into their body just because tuna fish contain toxic mercury? How stupid is that? Why would anyone want to add to the toxins already bombarding their immune system?

            No some numbskulls, like you, enjoy injecting tin foil in the form of aluminum right into their brains. Go figure!

          • Warren Lauzon

            You obviously don’t know enough about science to carry on an intelligent conversation with, done.

          • Ann

            And you do? What a laugh!!

          • Warren Lauzon

            Yup, usual tactics. When your science and evidence fails – as it always does – pull the Shill Gambit.

          • Ann

            True science and evidence does not fail. Your skewed science and evidence does, however!

          • Warren Lauzon

            Where is your science?

          • sharkonwhisky

            …and yet it is evidently clear you are not familiar with the scientific evidence on this so that’s quite an accusation to make there!

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell
          • Michael McCarthy

            ??

          • AutismDad

            immature….no surprise.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You could do with looking into a lot more citations Ann!

          • Warren Lauzon

            Still trying ot figure out where she came up with that silly argument. It has been disproven over and over, but keeps getting repeated by the woo-mongers.

          • Michael McCarthy

            Dr. Viera Scheibner originated the myth. She could have picked it up from any number of anti-vax sites.

        • Warren Lauzon

          What a pile of BS. Even the Japanese government says you are full of crap on that one. In fact they and others found the exact opposite to be true http://www.drwile.com/lnkpages/render.asp?vac_SIDS

          • Ann

            Gee, the Japanese government says that about Jeanne? I bet she never spoke to the Japanese government.

      • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

        Ignorance is bliss. You don’t treat patients. You have no first hand knowledge. Therefore, you should really not speak. Only a fool argues a point without first hand experience. Second, if you heard of 100 people getting sick from eating at a certain chain restaurant, you wouldn’t go there. That’s common sense. However, hundreds of thousands of kids who are perfectly healthy just prior to a vaccine then neurologically decomensate afterwards, and you are saying that it doesn’t raise concern? Well, if that’s the case, then educating you would be analogous to teaching a pig math. It’s a waste of time and annoys the pig.

        • NotThatGreg

          And you’ve been educated in, what, “naturopathic medicine”? Then you’ve basically been trained to ignore actual evidence so that you can hold unfounded beliefs. Come back when you can show that you care about what’s actually true. http://www.naturopathicdiaries.com/category/what-is-naturopathic-medicine/

          • JO

            No one is stopping YOU from vaccinating your loved ones. Go right ahead and do it. Like in the restaurant scenario, if most people going there are getting sick, then I opt not to eat there, where you can go ahead and continue eating there.

          • Jennifer Litton Tidd

            If you choose not to vaccinate your children, then you’re putting their lives in danger. Your choice. The link between autism and vaccines was proven false over a decade ago, and the doctor who propagated the falsehood was arrested in the UK in 2002 for fraud.

          • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

            Proven false by false medical propaganda? The same propaganda which comes from the medical establishment that kills more people with medical errors and side effects than the diseases themselves? This false propaganda would have nothing to do with making money now would it? You really have no idea of the history of medicine. You might want to look at the true reason for the Flexnor report which was to decrease competition. Sure is interesting how the USA had over 1000 homeopathic pharmacies and dozens of homeopathic colleges along with a plethora of natruopathic medical schools at the turn of the century, all of which were flourishing until this report came out with much falsified information. The medicine worked just as well and colloidal silver worked. Interesting about silver, it’s used in many areas of medicine except internally and topically to kill infections because it competes with monetary value. But….it sure does well being used for a catheter tips to prevent infection or on burns. I guess they’ll cherry pick how to use the effectiveness of natural medicine.

            By the way, how is that allopathic medicine is embracing holistic medicine when it doesn’t work? In fact, the existence of holistic medicine and its increasing number of schools, people studying it, using it, MD’s converting over, is all a sign that the current system is an abysmal failure. The ONLY reason allopathic medicine is acknowledging some of its benefits is because too many people began leaving the pen/system, so they branded the term “integrative” medicine because too many people were seeking “alternative” medicine. Now, give the people what they want, begin to allow ND’s to accept insurance and they still control the dog and pony because they still dictate how medicine is practiced.

            I could go on and on, but you are so incredibly full of your own ignorance that you are unable to be helped. The sad thing is, is that your children have paid dearly for it.

          • Jennifer Litton Tidd

            but I suppose you give away your natural quackery away from free as a public service, then, yes? I mean since you’re so stridently opposed to people in the medical profession making a profit?

          • Stacey H

            No one is forcing people to get vaccines, we just don’t want you in our communities getting people at risk sick from the stupidity. Stay home, order in, work from home, home school, and stay away from us 🙂

          • Jennifer Litton Tidd

            There are a lot of grifters and snake-oil sales-men who claim they have cures for autism, digestive flushes and all kinds of nonsense. I suspect that’s what this grifter does, makes money off of parents of children with autism, by lying to them and claiming she has a cure, taking their money, when their money is FAR better spent on behavioral and occupational therapy. I have two children on the Autism Spectrum and have long been an activist for the rights of people with Autism. too many dishonest grifters are out there selling false hopes and fake cures to turn a buck. I imagine there is a special place in hell for people who lie and cheat families who have a child on the Autism Spectrum. These “treatments” should be illegal and banned by the FDA, something I’ve been working on.

          • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

            There is ill intentioned people in every aspect of life including all professions. Fact is, there are no cures, there is only a restoration of balance within the homeostatic systems. If you are balanced, you can’t have symptoms. If you don’t have symptoms, you can’t have a diagnosis. That’s how it works! But you have bought into the philosophy of modern medicine where it is completely inept when it comes to treating chronic disease. Fact is, Autism has been reversed in people. You just don’t know about it because you hang with the wrong crowd.

          • Jennifer Litton Tidd

            How fucking DARE you tell me about MY children and their diagnoses? You’re a grifter and a quack, who seems to resent anyone with actual credentials to practice medicine.

          • Ann

            I agree. I think there is a special place in Hell for people who vaccinate little children.

          • Jennifer Litton Tidd

            and an even more special place in hell for people who put their children’s lives at risk by not vaccinating their children.

          • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

            Considering that I attended allopathic medical school 15 years ago, have practiced it for 15 years, attended both naturopathic and chinese medical school, I’d say I’m rather adept in medicine. I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever see in your life. Anyone can parrot what the establishment wants them to know, that’s easy. And anyone can argue about something they have read but have no actual working knowledge of the subject. And that is what we call a fool. And you are just that, a fool.

          • NotThatGreg

            You have, apparently, more than forgotten almost everything important about medicine, since you are now referring to it with the homeopath’s propoganda term “allopathic”, which they use to help their faithful believe that medicine (like homeopathy) has learned nothing in 200 years. Alt med training will do that to you… Anyone can parrot their beliefs. Come back when you actually care whether those beliefs are true or not.

          • Stacey H

            So, do you think that water has “memory”?
            Education has dropped, IQ levels are down, and gullible people are willing to grasp at anything -but the internet becoming commonplace is why quacks are getting more customers.
            And people are dying because of it.
            Cognitive dissonance is on the rise.

        • Al Mather

          As a responsible health professional I am sure you would not make any fear mongering type claims, and that ” hundreds of thousands of kids who are perfectly healthy just prior to a vaccine then neurologically decomensate afterwards” … is something you can provide reference for?

        • Jennifer Litton Tidd

          the restaurant analogy is ABSURD, especially because of the literally MILLIONS of human beings who have been prevented from serious and fatal diseases on this planet because of vaccines. Look at the death rates of curable and preventable diseases in countries in the third world who aren’t vaccinating children. You’re irresponsible and shouldn’t get anywhere near children. I have two children on the Autism Spectrum, it’s GENETIC. My father was autistic, so was his father. It comes down through families strongly.

          • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

            You’re ignorant when it comes to medicine, and that is understandable because you don’t treat people. You simply parrot what you hear the establishment tells you. So, I would not expect anything different.

            Let me educate you as to what happens on the ground level. Children who were perfectly healthy their entire life (aside from common colds and ear infections) then get vaccinated and immediately decompensate neurologically. You are telling me that is genetic? There is no genetic disease that is triggered by a single event like Autism is by vaccines.

            Interesting that your Grandfather had Autism when the term wasn’t used until the 1940’s. And it was still in its infancy. Regardless, professionals that I know who treat a lot of Autism, have completely reversed it when they catch it early, and still when not caught early they are still able to reverse many of the symptoms. Due to your own ignorance and inability to do research on the ground level, rather than parroting money driven false science and media with a financial tie to the medical establishment, you have allowed your children to remain injured.

            The irony is that you have no medical experience, have never worked along side physicians who treat Autistic kids who claim to reverse their symptoms, but yet you pound your chest that you know all. Only a fool argues about something they have no first hand knowledge of.

      • David Pergamit

        Better diagnosis? So where are all the 30 year old autistics wearing diapers and helmet’s? A complete joke…

        • NotThatGreg

          You don’t really know what “autism” actually means then. Going by today’s definition of “autism”, some of them designed the computer you are using and the car you drive.

      • implicaverse .

        A ‘hate group’ is a bad thing when they’re hating innocent people. But hating something that’s wrong, and forming a group to do so, is actually a good thing. “Oh they hate something. Therefore don’t listen to them.” I don’t see how that’s even an argument. It’s more like an attempt to shut down an argument.

        Likewise with playing semantic games with the word ‘tragedy.’ People with ASD are not the tragedy. People having ASD is the tragedy. Are you saying that if there was a cure for ASD, you would refuse it for your child? That’s not parenting, that’s psychotic.

      • Terry

        What about all the lies from the CDC about vaccines and Autism? Why are vaccine companies exempt from liability? What are they and the corrupt beyond belief govt hiding???? Enough $$$$$$$ to cover up anything

      • gingercake5

        10 naturopathic doctors and 5 chiropractors have been s.uicided between June and August 2015. They were collaborating and getting ready to publish regarding the definite link. Do searches on n.agalase and gc.maf

      • Nancy

        Yes, convince yourself that your child is a gift and perfectly amazing. I hope you live forever to take care of your special child. Parents in the 50s were so dumb that they couldn’t tell there was something wrong with their children according to you. And according to you, Autism is apparently something you can outgrow because hey, there aren’t many 50 and 60 year old autistics around. They must have outgrown it or they’re all dead. I wouldn’t want to blame myself either for harming my child so I understand your stance.

      • Jennifer Litton Tidd

        Autism Speaks doesn’t support the vaccine-causal conspiracy theory. Autism Speaks has done more to get treatment for people on the spectrum than any other organization in my lifetime. I have 2 of four of my children on the AutismSpectrum and it’s much easier to get my 6 year old with Autism treatment now that it was to get my 23 year old son with Autism when he was young. And for some people, like my 6 year old, who cannot speak and probably will never speak, Autism is a debilitating issue in this life. We’re working with it best we can and Autism Speaks helped us pass laws in Virginia, wherein, now he is covered. Try not to spread lies and hyperbolic nonsense about an organization you don’t seem to know much about. Fine, share your own negative experiences, but don’t publicly attribute a position to them, that they do not perpetuate or propagate.

      • Ann

        See, the problem with this is that autism is listed as an adverse effect in the vaccine inserts.

        I know first hand that autism is on the rise because I have taught for over 30 years and I saw it rise with my own eyes. Autism has such obvious overt symptoms that any teacher can tell you that it started to rear its ugly head in the 80s and got worse every year after. When I first started teaching I had 38 kids in my class and not one had autism. The teachers did not see the classic signs of autism and never heard of it. When kids start coming in with autism, everyone was baffled. We were told that these symptoms and behavior were attributed to mothers who did not want their children. What a lie that was!

    • NotThatGreg

      Wouldn’t it be better if he had the FIRST CLUE what he was talking about, though, when he raised the issue? Millions of families deserve better than reckless fear mongering. Reckless fear mongering is only good for Trump.

    • Brian

      Autism is not an infectious disease and therefore cannot be an epidemic.

    • New Deal

      He speaks for millions of ignorant morons that should be quarantined.

    • Neill “Dire” Mitchell
  • Jeanne Price

    Those of us who have vaccine injured children or have had one die know this is true! The CDC is the incestuous whore of the Pharmaceutical Companies!

    • NotThatGreg
      • REVELLINGINTRUTH

        Yeah..the best you have…LOLOLOLOL…He (along with numerous others) are fed up with the LIES coming from the medical profession..all backed by bogus research. What about the 430,000 deaths/year in hospitals…MD errors???

        • sharkonwhisky

          Pipe down REVELLINGINBULLSHIT.

    • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

      Those of us who remember when polio, diphtheria, smallpox, measles, rubella, and TB killed thousands annually know you are talking nonsense. And furthermore, if you *ever* allow your children into a motor vehicle of any kind, that is proof enough you have no concept whatsoever of risk.

      • sharkonwhisky

        Well said Neill!! Jeanne, for the love of the sweet Lord, lay off the Kool-Aid!!!

      • Ann

        I am one who contracted measles, mumps and rubella and so did my brothers and sisters(7) of them. Kids in our school and neighborhood also got these diseases and guess what? Not one was hospitalized and not one died. My parents didn’t even take us to the doctor.
        On the other hand I know plenty of vaccine injured children and so does VAERS. They paid out billions in vaccine damage. Get educated.

        • REVELLINGINTRUTH

          A++

        • sharkonwhisky

          Well you’re very lucky then Ann! But just because this applies to you and your family does NOT mean it applies to others!! These [vaccine preventable] diseases have killed people. If I was to give your family smallpox, and you could choose that they have a vaccination before hand…or not…which would you choose??

          I highly recommend you read this Ann:

          http://violentmetaphors.com/2014/03/25/parents-you-are-being-lied-to/

          • Michael McCarthy

            Fantastic link!

          • Ann

            All these people, including me are just very lucky? That is ridiculous! By the way, Dr. Jenner, creator of the small pox vaccine, killed his own son with this vaccine. The vaccine never prevented small pox. Small pox was on the wane before the vaccine was ever introduced into the population.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Not at all true Ann. While other practices such as hygiene helped, vaccinations are the only reason small pox has been eliminated completely from the wild. Polio is heading the say way, also due to vaccinations, but is hanging on in a few remote areas due to religious crazies stopping people from vaccinating. I’m not sure what your sources are, but they are not to be trusted, and they don’t have your or anyone else’s interests at heart.

            if you haven’t read this already, please do…I’m worried for you Ann x

            http://violentmetaphors.com/2014/03/25/parents-you-are-being-lied-to/

          • Ann

            Polio has been caused by the vaccine itself. It is dangerous.

            Send me proof that vaccines prevent disease.

            Look up how Dr. Jenner killed his own son with his small pox vaccine.

            Read how SV40 ( cancerous monkey virus) was injected into 98,000,000 Americans in the 1950s, 60s and beyond. Google it instead of calling me a liar. Now, we are paying the price…cancer is epidemic. Ever ask yourself,why? Even when it was discovered that the vaccine contained SV40, they continued to use the vaccine up because they didn’t want to waste $. They wanted to make money at the expense of the people.

            I would not give vaccine to a dog.

            Posting your information and lies are doing a grave disservice to people who may believe your posts.

          • sharkonwhisky

            Wow so vaccines are responsible for all cancer now?? What about the moral degradation for society as well??

            You’ve been brainwashed by lies Ann, simple as. It is an undisputed fact that there is no way the smallpox virus could have been eliminated from the wild, if it wasn’t for vaccines. Like, it doesn’t make sense how it could have been eliminated otherwise…remember it is a virus so antibiotics have no effect on it. Improved hygiene awareness aside (which was only ever going to be a contributing factor), how do you think we eliminated it completely from the wild?? And it has been, so the proof of the pudding really is in the eating.

            Again, you are wrong about polio, you must question your sources more, for the they definitely do not have you or anyone else’s interests at heart. Recent news, Africa has now been polio free for a year…this has largely been achieved (and is a great achievement) by a rigorous vaccination programme. Again, as in the case of smallpox, this is an undisputed fact, and it wasn’t Jesus or magic or anything else that eliminated the virus…it was via vaccination.

            http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/health/a-milestone-in-africa-one-year-without-a-case-of-polio.html?_r=0

            I wish there was a vaccine for ignorance Ann, because you could do with a shot or two of that…

          • Ann

            I wish you would study SV40 and where it came from. I wish you would realize that polio has not been eradicated anywhere in the world. I wish you would realize that viruses run their course. Yes, there are no antibiotics for viruses and injecting people with the virus does not prevent the virus from occurring. We just had an outbreak of “whooping cough” and every person who contracted it was vaccinated. You need to do more research instead of aping everything the mainstream, pharma controlled media tells you!
            You are just plain ignorant to the core!

          • AutismDad

            We’re going to need a BULL dozer here.

          • Ann

            I would not choose the vaccine because vaccines do not prevent disease. They never have.

          • sharkonwhisky

            That is a purely ridiculous thing to say. The overwhelming medical scientific consensus is that vaccines have been an incredibly positive breakthrough and have saved millions of lives, and millions still die from disease they could easily prevent through vaccinations. There is absolutely no shred of logic or common sense to back up your wild claim.What on Earth have you been smoking Ann?!? I’d lay off if I were you!!

          • Ann

            Post one study that confirms that vaccines prevent disease. You can’t because there is no proof. Bill Gates just caused 48,000+ children to be paralyzed in India and 10,000 deaths via the polio vaccine. Do you call that saving lives? What have you been smoking?

          • sharkonwhisky

            Do your own research, why should I do it for you? Of course vaccinations prevent disease, why do you think they are used??

            Try this:

            http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

            “Bill Gates just caused 48,000+ children to be paralyzed in India and 10,000 deaths via the polio vaccine.” …this is simply a flat out lie. Why do you think I’m going to respect your view on the situation if you not only ignore facts but just make stuff up as well?? Appalling conduct Ann you should be ashamed of yourself.

          • Ann

            Bill Gates also did his dirty vaccine inoculations in Nigeria and caused untold devastation. You need to get yourself informed.

          • REVELLINGINTRUTH

            He’s a troll Ann…just ignore him..he is acting like a shark on Whiskey.
            His name should be shark with a tinhat with pinholes in it…you are right..he’s been smoking something…

          • AutismDad

            You are a plant. A troll here to do what trolls for Pharma do.

          • AutismDad

            Fear monger That’s all you are. Where is your SCIENCE?

      • REVELLINGINTRUTH

        Life is about risk…also, what happened to all the BS you embrace with Darwinism…”only the strong survive”? Why don’t you speak out against the 430,000 hospital deaths due to “errors” ? This estimate doesn’t include the vaccine errors…You are welcome to as many vaccines you want..have at it..and pack and go EAST..most that have these brain deficits live in the EAST…Thank GOD Trump is bringing this into the light…

      • AutismDad

        Troll ideology. Yawn, I’m so tired of seeing this rubbish stated as a reason to not examine why so many parents claim after a series of vaccines my child was never the same. And Yes the correlation argument. Odd how many feel correlation is a place to halt rather than a place to start. Especially vaccine proponents.

        • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

          Pointing to the feeble job most humans do at risk assessment isn’t troll-like, further more as a father of two boys with ASD diagnoses I’m hard pressed to see what all the hand-ringing and wailing is about, one is 2/3rd through a 4 year Maths degree the other is aceing triple science and maths in high school, play to their strengths and ASD is a asset, not a disability. Futhermore, the experiment has been done, in Japan on a massive scale over many years. There is no link between the MMR vaccine and ASD.http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x/abstract;jsessionid=22F387FE8A73D1B13E2A9296B1D3AF7D.f01t03

          • AutismDad

            You are fortunate IF your children can function well. Does that imply all do? No, so why say so? And because Japan is altering people in an experiment its a good thing? Maybe you are a few bricks shy of a load.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            If you had read the study (and on your 20 years of study I’m suprised you missed it) you would know it covered a time span that went from routine MMR vaccination, through declining MMR vaccination to zero MMR vaccinations, and there was shown no change in ASD rates. Conformation bias stopped that one making it into your reading list? A bit more research would have told you that Merck developed the vaccine and sell it as MMR-II and GSK licence it and sell it as Priorix.

          • AutismDad

            Well if you weren’t so impudent you’d say what you mean. And because you are clueless, you don’t know what actually took place in Japan. Yes they stopped the MMR, but then they gave single doses at the same visit. They make you look like a genius.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            So is it GSK MMR that’s the problem or not, because they stopped that long ago, and have never reintroduced a rubella vaccine into the schedule. Ad hominem, composistion/division, false cause, special pleading – you really cover the logical fallacies bases in your debates!

          • AutismDad

            Prove GSK has stopped making an MMR.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            “They” being the Japanese. Try and keep up. The Japanese stopped MMR and have never reintroduced a rubella vaccine into the schedule. So does your tin foil hat extend to all vaccines? How about antibiotics, anagesia, antidepressants or anticoagulants? Or are you strictly a leech and willow bark man?

          • AutismDad

            Again, your inability to make yourself understood is at the forefront.

            Whatever other nonsense you are making some ludicrous mention about isn’t of interest to me troll

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            Well, I can only dumb it down so much, English is hard and the scientific method is harder still. Well done, though. Shame though as I nearly had logical fallacy bingo, you popped out a “tu quoque” at the end to follow up a “genetic” and a “personal incredulity”.

          • AutismDad

            No you’re showing that you’ve hit rock bottom. Any dumbing down will benefit Troll Nation’s other minions and make you a hero.

          • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

            Oh come on – you’ve done tu quoque and ad hominem already – I was hoping for an Appeal to Emotion (or maybe your username is that already?) – I almost missed your furtive fallacy earlier, so combined with your overarching kettle logic, you might just be the worse debater (from a logic perspective) I’ve encountered. Reminiscent of that old “Playing chess with a pigeon” idiom.

          • AutismDad

            I don’t debate reprobates. I merely toy with their ignorance and folly.

          • sharkonwhisky

            You don’t know how to debate, to debate requires some vague semblance of intelligence. I’ve not yet seen any evidence of intelligence or ability to debate coming from you.

          • AutismDad

            Are you mirror gazing again?

          • sharkonwhisky

            Neil is correct though…you are the ignorant troll here, just so you and everybody else is clear.

          • AutismDad

            That makes both of you wrong.

          • sharkonwhisky

            He is very clear. You warble on talking drivel continuously…you are in no position to be making accusations IgnorantDad.

          • AutismDad

            Your opinion = WHO CARES!

        • sharkonwhisky

          I’m a proponent of making a vaccine for stupidity and ignorance and injecting your dumbass, pronto!!

          • AutismDad

            Well you’ll then have to visit an emergency room to have at least one broken arm set and your nose rebuilt. Can’t wait. Plus you’ll never get to the injecting unless you fall on it. Then you’ll see the errors of your way.

  • Jeanne Price

    http://articles.mercola.com/…/hpv-vaccines-for-boys.aspx

  • Neill “Dire” Mitchell

    If any of the anti-vaxers who comment here *ever*, even once, let their children travel in any kind of motor vehicle, there is all the proof you need they understand nothing about risk.

  • Brian

    Those quickest to criticize vaccination are quickest to prove their ignorance of it.

    • NotThatGreg

      And their ignorance of autism.

      • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

        Question, do you not have a life, or are you being paid to troll? Wait, agencies do not engage in such behavior, right? Fact is, you have no credibility since you hide behind your keyboard with some fictitious profile. Your opinion means absolutely nothing. Case closed.

  • Ussula Lutrova

    when my son was born hbe was colicy but that was it, otherwise appeared to be healthy. he played as he grew older etc, like normal. then at age 3 he got a scheduled dose of vaccines and suddenly within weeks had stopped palying altogether. it was heartbreaking to watch and i was confused why he wouldnt play like normal but in all other ways he astill appeared healthy. it wasnt until he turned 5 that he began developing more serious symptoms of asperger’s, adhd, ocd, and tourrettes. due to not being fully aware of the vaccine debate at that time i cannot recall when his other vaccinations occured in relation to when he was diagnosed with the aspergers, adhd, ocd, and tourrettes, but i do recall the not playing at age 3 being the first sign in relation to vaccines because it was the first thing that happened and was so out of character it just stuck in my memory more even though i didnt realize it was likely vaccine related till many years later. but my son isnt the only one in th efamily effected. my nephew is austistic, more so than my son was, and if he was not as lucky as he was to get proper early diagnosis and treatment rehabilitation he likely would be unable to speak at this time. he is now 5 years old. when i was about 4 years old, i remember for a time span of about a month i would sit and rock for no apparewnt reason for hours but i didnt know why i was driven to do that. i did snap out of it after that month. my mom had told me that episode happened shortly after a vaccine dose but they didnt realize the possible connection at the time. its possible it could have effected me in other undiagnosed ways as well. of course doctors still deny vaccines are dangerous and this enrages me.

    • New Deal

      I hear ya. Vaccines made you allergic to capital letters…don’t want that happening to my children.

      • Antonette Sparks-Dupree

        What a dick thing to say. You should be proud.

      • implicaverse .

        Yeah, that is kind of dick.

      • Roving Gambler

        New Deal – Air Soul!

    • Pete Wright

      Cool, another idiot that did zero research or they’d have found out the supposed “doctor” that spread all this vaccine bullshit was a quack and a fraud with NO proof other than his own bias and made up most of what he said to scare people. Glad I got my vaccines so I won’t get polio, measles, whooping cough or any other diseases that these anti-vaccine dumbasses are suddenly getting and spreading.

      In short, fuck uneducated, ill-informed, lazy dipshits that take everything as gospel because they’d rather be spoon-fed lies than do any actual research. Our country is DOOMED.

      • AutismDad

        Nice job defining what an ignorant moron is. So supply your proof. Remember personal opinion is like a buttcrack, everyone has one, and some are one.

        • sharkonwhisky

          Yeah but all you have is personal [bullshit] opinion!! You’ve contributed ZERO evidence to support your view, So are you are definitely an ignorant moron, and that’s being polite bubba!!

          • AutismDad

            So you think that’s polite? You probably think its meaningful and intelligent. Buh Wah Ha Ha So dumb.

    • Anti-flood

      Ussula; listen only to those that matter in your life.

      In truth, you cannot tell if the posts below mine are actually from real humans or not. (I consider politicians for the most part to be anti-humans). Anyway, YOu know your life, you know what’s going on and even IF the posts below come from genuine people, their knowledge is not genuine; disinformation. It’s unuseful because any beLIEfs that require such vulgarity as the ones below, are inherently worthless. If you let them stop you from learning the truth, then you are the only one who loses. Never stop. never falter, never fade. Fuck those who go against the truth of experiences; they are unimportant in this reality. let them out of your life.

    • Neill “Dire” Mitchell
  • Ryan Ong

    See, this is the problem with democracy: you could be a medical professional with 20 years of experience, who has saved hundreds of lives. But when it comes to making a decision on vaccines, your vote will only weigh as much as any of these untutored, anti-vaccination morons. (The same applies to other things, like economic decisions).

  • xdrfox
  • Tracy Spencer Walker

    He is SO correct, it happened with my son.

  • OneMansView

    One of the basic tenets of the medical profession is: First Do No Harm.

    Yet the pharmaceutical companies have been granted immunity from prosecution and the US government has formed a special, separate court system that has handed out almost 3 BILLION dollars for damage caused by vaccines.

    http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreports.html

    I ask you how hard is it to just point to this and say that vaccines can cause damage and the government agrees to the tune of 3 BILLION dollars!

    Can you point out any other product that has been given this kind of government protection?

    I’m sure the car companies would love to have this level of immunity and a special court that doesn’t cost them anything for the damages they have caused.

    The only thing settled about science is that there is no such thing as settled science.

    Just google “Vaccine Court Awards Millions Fox News” and you can find the Fox News stories about the government awarding millions due to damage caused by vaccine.

    Check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=132BRCV2Mc8

    Or the Charlotte Observer’s story about Angelica Black that was awarded 2 million dollars and 250k per year for life due to damages caused by vaccines.

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/health-family/article11620775.html

    Or from CBS News – Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award. This case was originally sealed, so I ask you how many similar cases have been adjudicated that we don’t know about because they have been sealed?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/

    Now the court case points out that the child had a mitochondrial defect and that the vaccine didn’t “cause” but “resulted” in her autism.

    The latest research is showing that 1 in 50 children have a “mitochondrial defect”, compare that to the latest autism rate of 1 in 68.

    Let me ask you, how much do you really trust the medical profession?

    The third leading cause of death in the US is preventable medical errors. Here is a paper published in JAMA that outlines at the low end 210,000 deaths and at the high end 400,000.

    http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us

    http://www.ieu-alliance.eu/study-by-john-t-james-phd-evidence-based-estimate-of-patient-harms-ass-with-hospital-care/

    Just as a comparison, deaths cause as a result of automobile accidents were 33,804, compare that to the deaths cause by preventable medical errors. Are you safer riding in your car or visiting your doctor?

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

    For what its worth.

    • NotThatGreg

      So now a civil court award is proof of wrong doing? Add “the US civil justice system” to the list of things you don’t understand.

      The fact is that if US lawyers were allowed free action against the medical profession, nobody could afford to practice medicine.

      How would you feel about doing your job, if someone could sue you for millions of $ for a decision which *they* decided , after the fact, was incorrect? And if the verdict was to be decided by a jury that doesn’t actually understand what you do?

      • OneMansView

        Maybe you should read a book!

        The vaccine court is not a civil court, it is part of the United States Court of Federal Claims and is conducted by a Special Master and has no jury.

        http://uscfc.uscourts.gov

        The rules of evidence are far more restrictive than a civil court and only a small number of claims actually make it through the gauntlet to be presented to the court and ruled on.

        You might also want to take a look at Bruesewitz v. Wyeth that upheld the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 which established the court because of vaccine’s unavoidable adverse side effects.

        http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

        Your Turn!

        • NotThatGreg

          OK, fair enough, I’ll have a look at that. Meanwhile, maybe you can work out an estimate of how many billions it would cost for treatment if, say, nobody was vaccinated for measles.

          There is no question that there *are* sometimes adverse effects from vaccines. But autism is not one of them.

      • REVELLINGINTRUTH

        How would I feel? I would make SURE that I was practicing according to TRUTH..with legit testing..NO MORE HARM!!!…Yes, bring the suit to the MD’S…they are now the filthy elite..and need to be flushed!!!THEY LIE…

  • implicaverse .

    First of all, nobody gets anywhere in American politics unless they are in sync with the Powers That Be. Trump may be a billionaire but even he can’t go against the will of the ruling elite. But maybe it’s the ruling elite that’s had a change of heart. They’re sitting up there on top and it’s finally getting through to them that their corrupt minions in government and corporations are wrecking the country with greed in terms of illegal immigration, mandatory vaccinations, and GMOs. How to radically change course without losing face? Have one of their own Billionaire Boys run as a ‘maverick.’ Just don’t expect Trump to do any favors for you that don’t benefit the people at the top.

  • Anti-flood

    When one sees a pattern, they recognize it. This is pattern recognition.

    Even pro vaccine individuals can’t deny this. it’s really simple.

    Now, when something seems to happen in relation to an event ONCE, it is impermissible. it isn’t really a fact at that point.

    However, when thousands of identical cases appear, and evidence is shown to prove the link between two events… Then the denial of such a thing is exemplary of hubris ignorance.

    So, with BOTH of my children, and EVERY parent I have talked to, vaccines only cased damage, and now mine can’t even talk anymore, and others suffered similar injuries. One girl couldn’t use her left hand after her injections: she was left handed before this. Another boy was unable to balance while running after a series of shots.

    It has been at least 1 year since these shots where administered. one child got the diseases anyway, and none of the adverse effects have subsided. now, I understand that I was lied to and tricked before and taken for money I spent hours of my life to obtain through gainful employment.

    Having tunnel vision and ignoring the hard facts and evidence, is NOT intellectual; rather it’s the mindset of a loser. the mindset of one who has been perfectly lead to beLIEve that they can know nothing at all so long as they read small bits of articles and journals from sources they beLIEve they can trust.

    The truth here is this:

    those against vaccines are clearly victims of heinous crimes; crimes of a particular type that shouldn’t even exist.

    Those FOR vaccines are a victim of identical crimes, with just one additional malady: Stockholm’s Syndrome. Where they not only suffer all that the rest of us suffer: They also have been duped into beLIEving that their suffering is either negligible, worth the risk in favor of avoiding a disease few of them have ever come across in reality outside of books and Internet articles, or non-existent due to their severe lack of true understanding of human purpose and functionality. Sure, they might know a few words and have memorized some or even all of the terms and agreed-upon functions… but little to none of it is actually real or true.

    I don’t care if you (the current reader) are for against disease injections, or even for or against me. Both are sets of emotional standpoints, and neither matter at all. Not even a little bit.

    Just ask yourself a few simple questions:

    “Did I learn what I think I know on my own; or through reading or talking to someone who is in the current alopathic field?”

    “Does an alleged slight increase of imperceptible knowledge account for the dramatic increase of cases of diseases known to this earth? if so, what knowledge and how?”

    “Am I helping or hurting others and myself by beLIEving what I think is true; could I prove it to anyone with a functional mind?”

    “Did the origins of humanity call for diseases to be put into a tube with other chemicals and syringed into myself or my child?”

    “Have I watched a vaccine being produced? Can I prove what is in them?”

    “Does my child laugh, or scream when injected?”

    “does my child seem happier after a hug? or after being injured?”

    “could the native americans have died from things other than the alleged diseases and then the death situation hijacked; could someone have lied about how they died?”

    Did I spend equal amounts of unbiased time learning about allopathy, homeopathy, and naturopathy from artisans in the respective fields and their personal work for guidance? or did I learn less than 50% of one or two, and then hold prejudice against what I didn’t understand?

    “What am I doing by pushing my beLIEf on others?”

    “Who am I?”

    If you cannot answer every question, you have no business whining about how you are for or against anything for any reason.

    If you don’t have time to do this; you also have no business in this discussion.

    I make no claims in this post.

    I pose no challenge in this post.

    I have one challenge to pose to anyone who is pro vaccination upon request only.

    I apologize for any grammatical errors that render potential readers so crippled as to eliminate their ability to read and infer. you have my deepest condolences for your suffering and damage.

    • REVELLINGINTRUTH

      A+++ Trump will go against the elite and has already…he is a chess player…this move with vaccines is a GREAT VOICE for all…thank you for voicing your story…

  • sharkonwhisky

    I wish there was a vaccination for ignorance and bigotry…and then I wish Donald Trump could get a MASSIVE shot of this.

    Please don’t vote Trump America, you will forever obliterate my already crumbling faith in the human species…

  • Marion Ilion

    And here we go again.

  • Jennifer Litton Tidd

    What a moron. The doctor who did this study linking autism to the MMR vaccine was arrested in the UK for fraud over a decade ago and can no longer practice. The science is in on this issue and it’s overwhelmingly, by a 99.9% margin, against this link. Even so, if he really knew anything about the subject, he’d also know that the vaccine in question was BANNED in the United States in 2004. I have two children of my 4 kids on the autism spectrum and I resent like HELL when FOOLS like this continue perpetuating this myth. It takes attention off the REAL causes and away from possible cures. This man proves over and over and over every single day he is just way too ignorant to be a presidential contender.

  • Sandi Hornsby White

    Baby Killers! The Who .org Sales Promotion PDF from 2015-2025 is to focus on middle income families and initiating Congressional, State, and Heads of Countries legislation to force vaccines. Sales Pitch, “Come buy or sponsor our vaccines for trillions in shared profits with us.” Soon Russia and Cuba will be sourcing and making our vaccines and shipping them into the USA through the TTP. Donald made it an issue or the GOP would be railroading Americans into another dooms day. Who’s minding the show. Should we ask about quality controls and shipping and storage conditions? Forcing vaccines in the school system guarantees residual income. The more vaccines imposed….the more money. The CDC, FDA, AMA, and Big Pharma are the medical mafia. Do You suppose that Nazi Merck really cares about our high infant mortality rate and first day infant mortality rate in America. It’s about the money and using our children as guinea pigs. Italy, France, and Spain are cleaning up in personal lawsuits for Autism and deaths and physical permanent impairment. But, not American parents, they must foot the bill for their damaged children, and the Vaccine Court that gives very few settlements.

  • Helen

    It is so important to talk about this subject and what mainstream media and medicine industry are trying to cover up. So much proof has surfaced about the dangers of vaccination, I’m glad to see that at least one of the candidates in the presidential race has stepped up and is bringing more awareness into the subject. Go Trump! Everyone, get your gear at trumptshirt.com!

  • Sandi Hornsby White
  • Kibachiyo

    He is not a doctor or pharmacist. He should stick to policy ideas he has some actual knowledge of rather than going out on limbs such as this one.

    • REVELLINGINTRUTH

      So glad he is standing up for the patriots rights to freedom of CHOICE…go EAST..you will find your kind living there..most in NJ/NY/IL..they love vaccines…we don’t want the “weakened” near us…ugh!!! No autism in the non-vax…hmmm……

  • Dr.Goodnight

    Thank you Mr.Donald Trump

    There is no way that I can vote for anyone else now.At first I was skeptical about you Mr.Trump.Because of how you backed out after Slapping obama around durring the last election.But now while my wife sets in another country waiting for a visa and our government plays games with us while at the same time several people in our government are fighting tooth and nail for those who came to the US illegally. No one in our government is fighting for me even though I’ve paid taxes ever since I was 17 years old the year I had to drop out of school to get a job.And I have been screaming for years on deaf ears about how I took my son to get his childhood vaccines and how his life has never been the same since that day. I have been his only voice since he cannot speak because of this dreadful brain disorder called autism .Till now that is.WOW Thank you Mr.Trump.And after seeing what has happened to our country and to my family over the last several years I have often question if there is even a God anymore.But if there is I pray to him that he makes you the next president of the United States.Because WE deserve it.God bless you and your family Mr.Trump.And thank you for being our voice.

    Stacy Lane Goodson
    Paris,Arkansas

  • First Officer

    I will relent, that, in Trump’s case, brain damage may have occurred. He’s the 1 in a million.

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/TrionfiTarot Jim Wickson

    What’s the difference between Austrian Tarock and the GOP primary?

    In Austrian Tarock, the Fool is the highest trump.
    In the GOP primary, the Trump is the lowest fool!

  • Ann

    School children in Mexico injured by Gardasil and Cervarix vaccines.
    This happened 8/31/15.

    These are severe neurological injuries which, without appropriate
    treatment to reverse aluminum poisoning and viral reactivation, may last
    for the duration of the children’s lives.
    Japan has halted the use of Gardasil and is suing Merck for lying about its safety and efficacy studies.
    The U.S. Government is moving in the opposite direction; moving toward mandating the vaccine for school attendance.

    What’s the difference? Japan cares about children. The United States’
    politicians care about the money they receive from pharmaceutical
    companies.

  • smeenge

    The media paraphrasing again. Listen to the interview and read the entire quote.

  • AutismDad

    Even Trump knows more than aul PrOffit. At least he has common sense and suggests the way we currently vaccinate should be examined. Vac Pushers and Vac Pimps want to go headlong and babies be dammed with more and more , while denying the carnage.

  • REVELLINGINTRUTH

    Vaccinations
    & Smallpox

    By Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO

    http://educate-yourself.org/vc

    19th century Smallpox Vaccination Efficacy

    1871 Bavaria – out of 39,742 cases 29,429 were in vaccinated

    persons (95.7 percent)

    1871 Prussia – highest revaccinated country in Europe –

    Highest death rate from smallpox of any northern European country (69,839)

    German Army all

    recruits revaccinated death rate from smallpox was 60 percent higher than among

    the civil population of the same age, for whom revaccination is not mandatory.

    Since the passing of the UK Compulsory vaccination Act of

    1853 there were no less than 3 distinct epidemics. In 1857-9 there were more

    than 14,000 deaths from smallpox; in the 1863-5 epidemic the deaths increased

    to 20,000 and in 1871-2 44,800 deaths.

    :-Walter R Hadwed MD (1896)

    Stricter enforcement led to the highest vaccination rate

    ever achieved in England in 1871 – 97.5% this rate coincided with England’s

    worst smallpox epidemic.

    1907 – Vaccination Act of England repealed

    1919 – England and Wales, population of 37.8 million people.

    One of the least vaccinated counties. Registers

    that year only 28 deaths from smallpox.

    1919 – Philippines,

    population 10 million. All Triple vaccinated over the prior 6 years registers

    that year 47.368 deaths from smallpox.

    Smallpox was eradicated by 3 synergistic mechanisms 1/

    Isolation 2/ Attenuation 3/ improved social Determinants, particularly

    nutrition and sanitation.

  • REVELLINGINTRUTH

    The
    Decline of Smallpox in Great Britain – Vaccination in Doubt. It includes a
    critique of Edward Jenner’s book and theories.

    http://www.medicinekillsmillio

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil….

    Vaccination:
    A Mythical History ~ by Roman Bystrianyk and Suzanne Humphries MD

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil….

    Link
    Index for Graphs – A quick way to see Historical Trends

    http://www.vaclib.org/links/gr

    Compulsory
    Vaccination Killed More Than Smallpox

    http://nocompulsoryvaccination

    A short history of Smallpox Vaccine

    V. Thirty Years of Rapidly Decreasing Vaccination in Leicester, and its
    Teachings.

    Excerpts:

    (1) The great manufacturing town of Leicester, with nearly
    200,000 inhabitants, affords the most conclusive proof of the uselessness of
    vaccination that it is possible to have; and the doctors and government
    officials carefully avoid dealing with it except to prophecy evils which have
    never come to pass.

    Down to 1872 Leicester was one of the most completely vaccinated
    towns in the kingdom, the number of vaccinations, owing to alarm after
    epidemics, several times exceeding the number of births. Yet in 1871, at the
    very height of its good vaccination record, it was attacked by the epidemic
    with extreme severity, its small-pox deaths during that year being more than
    3,500 per million of the population, or about a thousand per million more than
    the mortality in London during the same epidemic. If ever a test experiment
    existed it is this of Leicester, where an almost completely vaccinated
    community suffered more than unvaccinated and terribly insanitary London, on
    the average of the last forty years of the eighteenth century.

    But even more conclusive evidence is to come.

    (2) That fearful mortality destroyed the faith of Leicester in
    vaccination. Poor and rich alike, the workers and even the municipal
    authorities began to refuse vaccination for their children. This refusal
    continued till, in 1890, instead of 95 per cent. the vaccinations reached only
    5 per cent. of the births! [[p. 17]] As this ominous decrease of vaccination
    went on the doctors again and again prophesied against it, that once small-pox
    was introduced it would run through the town like wildfire and decimate the
    population. Yet it has been introduced again and again, but it has never
    spread; and from that day to this no town in the kingdom of approximately equal
    population has had such a very low small-pox mortality as this almost
    completely unvaccinated and–as the doctors say–unprotected population! Surely
    this completes the demonstration that vaccination, instead of preventing,
    increases the liability to small-pox, and that the only way to abolish the
    disease is to do as Leicester did, leave off vaccination altogether and devote
    our energies to sanitation, and the isolation of such rare cases as do occur.

    Germany: 1870-1871 Over 1,000,000 people had smallpox of which
    120,000 died. 96% of these had been vaccinated.

    Philippines: 1918-1919 Smallpox epidemic resulted in 60,855
    deaths. (2) with over 95% of the population vaccinated, the worst epidemic in
    the Philippine’s history occurred resulting in a case mortality of 65%. The
    highest percentage occurred in the capital Manila, the most thoroughly
    vaccinated place. The lowest percentage occurred in Mindanao, the least
    vaccinated place owing to

    religious prejudices. (2)

    Scotland: 1855-1875 over 9,000 children under 5 died of smallpox
    despite Scotland being, at that time, one of the most vaccinated countries in
    the world.

    1907-1919 with only a third of the children vaccinated, only 7
    smallpox deaths were recorded for children under 5 years of age.

    Read
    more:

    http://www.vaclib.org/legal/MT

    • REVELLINGINTRUTH

      Small pox vaccine caused more and larger outbreaks of small pox
      than it prevented! You have been mislead and lied to.

  • REVELLINGINTRUTH

    Truth is evidenced….the following posts are especially for those who WANT and seek truth…especially for “shark…toothless”…..LOOOOOOOOOL

  • http://www.vitaminlawyer.com/ Ralph Fucetola JD

    A bit over a year ago Eima Laibow MD was asked to present a paper to the All India Medical Education Congress. Here is her paper on vaccination, focusing on India and Polio: “Regulation and Results” http://tinyurl.com/DrRimaIndiaPaper

  • https://m.facebook.com/Victoriasarcia. Victoria Sarcia
  • http://perfectlycrazydragon.tumblr.com/ Poisoning the well: shill

    Who wants to tell him?

  • Erwin Alber

    As far as i am concerned, vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science. Of course vaccines cause autism – go and watch the Vaxxed documentary currently playing in US cinemas for a reality adjustment if you believe vaccines don’t cause autism.

    http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

    Trump is wrong thinking that spreading vaccines would solve the problem of children suffering vaccine injuries, such as autism. Somewhat more drastic measures are in my opinion warranted, like shutting down the entire vaccine industry for good as a matter of urgency to put an end to this medical fraud, child abuse and crime against humankind.

  • Ed

    This is the only area I support Trump

  • acudoc1949

    He is bringing up all the right issues.

  • http://thelibertybluepost.com TrueBlueLiberty19

    As someone who worked for 7 years in a full lock down group home facility as a Developmental Disabilities Behaviour Worker, before Myofasical Pain Syndrome and severe Fibromyalgia forced me to resign, vaccines play no part in it. Now please, just let me explain.

    The agency ALSO has THE LRGST CHILDREN’S AUTISM OUTREACH prgm in Ontario. It’s OVER DIAGNOSIS for #1. They wanted to Dx my son at TWO w/ autism b/c of a speech delay. He’s turning 5, still has the speech delay, and yes, des have some “Autisticy” traits, but NOT ENUF 4 a Dx. I’ve gone thru every online test possible.

    HOWEVER, I was born with SEVERE ADHD. My husband is Dyslexic with moderate ADHD. Our son has always been a VERY loving, caring child. Loves cuddles. Which is the KEY to an Autism Dx. That’s y u here of adults getting Dx in their 40’s. It’s b/c they get married, but b/c of not liking to be touched very much, they usually end in divorce. Our son could also VISUALLY recognize numbers 1-10 at 18mths and no one taught him. He could also visually recognize the entire alphabet by 2. He has an EXTMLY difficult time staying still, being patient and waiting in lines. In the ADHD tests, he scores OFF the chart!!

    I’ve also, through countless hrs of research and google searches, came across an article about something called “Hyperlexia.” It’s the Opposite of Dyslexia. My 18yr old daughter is dyslexic, so I know ALL about it. And one of the things it said is, these kids will have “Autisticy” traits, but not enuf 4 a REAL Dx. But Dr’s will make it so that the child fits an Autism Dx b/c it’s “easier.” I also saw that where we took our son for therapy. Hyperlexic children will have a “precociousness” for letters and numbers. Yep. Between ages 4-5, you will see large growth in development, and that’s when the “autisticy” traits will start to disappear. Again, Yep! I went thru the list, he had EVERY ONE except 1. But I’ve now been told by his AMAZING pre-school teacher (we held him back a yr in school) that when we see the Dr’s, to accept whatever Dx they give, or else he WILL NOT RCV HELP IN SCHOOL FROM THE GOVT!! I’m in crappy Ontario Canada. Our Leftist Premier, Kathleen Wynne, just answered the ?? parents had about making the 3-5yr waiting list, shorter. She CUT Autism trmt OFF at age 5!! I’ve been told by ppl in the field that Dr’s are going to start making “just-in-case” Dx’s b/c of this. Then we’re going to see another “spike” in Autism.

    The reason for “more autistic kids” is that the criteria is SOOO vague, and extensive, that any kid who’s a little odd fits the criteria for Dx. I was also told this at work by one of the leading researchers in Canada, that over the past 60 years, the Autism Dx criteria has BALLOONED. Check out this video with Temple Grandin – the famous autistic woman who changed the way cows are sent to slaughter: https://youtu.be/MWePrOuSeSY

    In the first 5mins she talks about Steve Jobs, and then the history of the Autism Dx. At the end, so as of now, she said:

    “And now the whole thing is muddied cuz what about the speech delay, abnormal language? Well, that’s all kind of blurred now. Then they started a NEW Diagnosis called “Social Communication Disorder,” and they’re trying to say that’s not Autism. Well what do you think the CORE problem is in Autism? They’re socially awkward. It’s kind of like you add some socially awkward circuits in the brain and you’re left with geek circuits, and do all the fun “geek stuff.””

    She has a Phd and is a leading researcher herself. But who better to hear it from than someone WHO HAS IT!! My son, LOVES ppl!! Tries so hard to play with other kids, but he quickly realizes they don’t understand him and goes off on his own. But he engages us in playtime ALL day long!! But he’s now going to be one of the statistics. It’s WORSE than the ADHD Dx’s in the ’80’s.

  • John OShock

    Mr. Trump, I thought I’d never agree with you, but my child is also a victim of this …. and it was CLEARLY noticeable that there was a connection with the vaccine…. fever immediately after and then stunted development. Now he has been diagnosed as autistic by several doctors…. before that he was extremely social, was only 2 and could name and appreciate shapes and colours and mixed with other children, after the fever he withdrew and stopped communicating as much…. I am SO ANGRY!