Hotel Guest Next Door To Las Vegas Shooter Saw ‘Multiple Gunmen’

A man who was staying in the room next to the shooter in Las Vegas has confirmed he saw multiple gunmen involved in the Las Vegas attack.

An Australian man who was staying in the room next to the shooter in the Mandalay Bay has confirmed he witnessed multiple gunmen involved in the Las Vegas attack.

There were multiple people dead and multiple shooters. I was just hiding waiting for police to come get us. I got outside safely and was hiding in bushes,Brian Hodge told Australia’s Courier-Mail.

Mr. Hodge, who was staying in room 32134, next door to Stephen Paddock in room 32135, also provided important information when he revealed that a security guard was killed by police.

My floor is a crime scene. They killed a security guard on my floor.

Who was the “security guard” who was killed by police?

Wendy Miller from Cooroy, on the Sunshine Coast – another Australian caught up in the Las Vegas shooting – may have provided a missing piece of the puzzle. Also speaking to the Courier-Mail, Ms Miller said she was at a bar in the nearby Luxor Hotel with her husband when she saw what she described as a “man of interest” run by.

Ms Miller said the man sprinted through her hotel after coming off an escalator from the Mandalay Bay.

The man that they [security] were chasing was wearing a security jacket like them,” she said.

Mr Hodge’s eyewitness report of multiple gunmen and a dead security guard, and with Ms Miller’s report of a security guard being chased by authorities, suggest that the mainstream media narrative of the “lone wolf” gunman is not the truth.

The fact is that this was an orchestrated, co-ordinated attack by multiple conspirators, and the mainstream media are attempting to cover it up.

Video footage confirms multiple shooters

Two explosive videos provided to Your News Wire have also confirmed there were multiple shooters involved in a co-ordinated attack, and the mainstream media of a “lone wolf” gunman operating without a motive is a lie.

Both videos show gunfire originating from the fourth floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, much lower than the 32nd floor, where the mainstream media is claiming Stephen Paddock, a “lone wolf”, fired on the crowd using an automatic weapon.

SHOTS FIRED ON 4TH FLOOR

You can clearly see shots being fired from the fourth floor of the Mandalay Bay. #LasVegasShooting

Posted by The People's Voice on Monday, October 2, 2017

The mainstream media narrative regarding Paddock’s motives have also been debunked by FBI sources who reportedly claimed the shooter has links to Antifa as well as ISIS. But mainstream media is actively covering up the information, claiming Paddock had “no political or religious affiliations or interests.”

The fact is the Las Vegas shooting was clearly a co-ordinated false flag attack, orchestrated by Paddock as well as at least one other as yet unidentified gunman operating from the fourth floor of the hotel. The mass shooting and scores of dead will be used by the elite to further push their nefarious agenda.

Anybody who looks into the information available to them on the internet will arrive at the same conclusion. Unfortunately anybody who relies on mainstream media for their information will be force-fed a very different conclusion.

SECOND LAS VEGAS SHOOTER

More evidence of a second shooter at the 4th floor window of the Mandalay Bay hotel. #LasVegasShooting

Posted by The People's Voice on Monday, October 2, 2017

The questions must be asked: why is the mainstream media covering for a mass murderer? Why are they attempting to rewrite his past and erase his political affiliations?

The answers are simple. The corporate media, controlled by a small, elite oligarchy, is operating on behalf of the New World Order, attempting to mislead the public into believing their enemies are their friends, and their friends are their enemies.

It doesn’t suit the mainstream media’s agenda to have an Antifa member responsible for the worst mass shooting in American history. They are actively engaged in covering up this fact up so they can continue pushing the New World Order’s sick and twisted agenda.

Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter, was an Antifa member who carried out the worst mass shooting in American history in order to create further division in American society, push the country towards civil war, and further the agenda of the elites.

Official Antifa facebook page, Antifa Melbourne, congratulated Stephen Paddock after the bloodiest mass shooting in America’s history, before deleting the post after a torrent of criticism.

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There is an active campaign to sow division and create chaos in the United States. Organized groups are working on behalf of global organizations with the most nefarious of goals. We need to wake up and stop believing everything fed to us by the mainstream media. They have proven themselves completely unreliable.

We need to stop hiding from the truth.

Baxter Dmitry

Baxter Dmitry

Baxter Dmitry is a writer at Your News Wire. He covers politics, business and entertainment. Speaking truth to power since he learned to talk, Baxter has travelled in over 80 countries and won arguments in every single one. Live without fear.
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  • cheryl

    was entertaining your ideas until I saw your vast credentials………

    • Bev Hesse-Hearn

      What exactly do you mean by that. Porsche need a PhD or something?????

      • po

        No, not a Porsche, he simply needs credentials anything other than being a notorious faker of news.

  • Andley Dorgervil

    bs

  • William Oliver

    Why is this article published on the second and dated the third?

    • Lyle Smyth

      It comes from Australia they 17 Hrs ahead of us!

  • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

    There is NO way ONE gunman wounded 500+ people in 4 1/2 mins NO FKG WAY…

    • Cindy Ward

      Many injuries were caused by the stampede of people trying to escape the gunsman’s bullets. People are always ready to create conspiracy theories with every opportunity.

      • BeautifulAmerica

        Not “many.”… SOME.

      • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

        There is NO WAY, physically and mathematically, ONE gunman with ONE gun can wound hundreds of people in a matter of minutes. FACT.

        2ndly, on YT there is video taken from a LVPD cruiser (!) by the woman officer in the passenger seat who exclaims, “Oh, shit?! It’s coming from THERE!” as she points her phone camera at the FOURTH FLOOR of the MB hotel, clearly seeing (as do we) muzzle flashes, repeatedly…

        3rdly, given our Fed gov.’s penchant for black ops i.e. Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, etc., it’s only prudent and patriotic to question EVERYTHING the Feds and the MSM say…

        Ya know, people are ALWAYS ready to stick their heads in the sand when the MSM comes a-callin’ with their bullshit narratives….

        • Alan J Morgan

          Your a Fucking MORON! I can give you REAL FACT form REAL MILITARY experience.
          You can kill or wound as many people as you have bullets and the automatic reload of the weapon in a CROWDED Environment.

          Jerks and FTARDS like you dont help matters.
          Now please go back to you apartment in momma’s basement

          • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

            I merely said ONE person couldn’t do it in the given time frame. Juast as Oswald couldn’t have squeezed off THREE shots in 1 1/2 seconds on that Carcano piece of shit. Calm DOWN Rambo…

          • HLTGRP

            He was shooting for nearly 15 to 20 minutes. This was not just a couple minutes. It really does not take very long to hit hundreds of people standing together in a crowd hundreds of yards wide.

          • djoy

            The time keeps getting longer. A women reported on the news that it was 10 minutes because she had checked the time.

          • Andrew Mastrandonas

            Right, and remember, it took TEN minutes for the SWAT team to even get there, so he was blasting for at least 15 minutes…

          • Mike Finnell

            get educated you fucking idiot:
            AGAIN: YOUR LESSON FOR THE DAY:

            When the trigger is pulled, the rate at which rounds are fired is the cyclic rate. Typical cyclic rates of fire are 600–900 RPM for assault rifles, 1,000-1,100 RPM in some cases, 900-1,200 RPM for submachine guns and machine pistols, and 600-1,200 RPM for machine guns.

          • koolhed

            Go to Google Earth and use the measuring tool. You’ll see that the gunfire-to-crowd distance was about 425 yards.

          • Andrew Mastrandonas

            Sure they could have. Have you been in the military? Have experience with these guns? Some of us do….

          • Karl

            Jack ass much?

          • HLTGRP

            I am honestly interested in your take on the second video. Its obvious there is shooting coming from the 4th floor, and the officer obviously reacts to seeing exactly what we’re seeing. She was not looking way up at the top of the building, as that was blocked by the roof of her vehicle anyway. Rather than just call eachother idiots, what’s everyone’s explanation for the obvious 2nd gunshots? Photoshop?

          • Vanguard

            Are you guys referring to the video of the woman cab driver? I haven’t seen one of a LVPD police woman. Could you link it, please?

          • Larry C Williamson Jr.

            Im no expert but from the blurry videos above looks more like some kind of lighting from the concert across the way and also the windows are still intact in the videos you can see reflections off of them.

          • Andrew Mastrandonas

            I agree Allen!

        • Paulita Gilberto

          There was a report that he had 30 guns fully loaded and when one ran out, he grabbed another.

          • Andrew Mastrandonas

            Exactly.

        • Andrew Mastrandonas

          This is garbage lol. None of what you’re saying is true and funny you are anonymous.

        • G Bruce Newman

          I’m sorry, but your statement about one person with one weapon not being able to wound that many people in that short of a time is patently false. With a deer rifle, yes, I would likely agree with. With a full auto weapon, especially if it is a belt fed, the only constraints would be the size of the belts. Add to that, the angle of attack would have allowed every single bullet fired to penetrate far more than one victim. Also add to that the many ricochets off the ground back into the feet, legs and lower bodies. One 200 round belt from an M249 with .308 hardball ammo could have easily harmed that many people. Military hardball ammo does not flatten, mushroom or deform easily and can pass through up to four or five bodies on average with no armor present.
          Thank you.

    • Barry Kaplan

      Clearly you’re a moron too. WHO SAID ALL 500+ WERE SHOT?

      • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

        Ahhh, EXPECT this from The Tribe. DIDN’T say THAT, assshole, said HUNDREDS

    • Alan J Morgan

      Really?
      and you know that from your extensive MILITARY EXPERIENCE or from your experience with Xbox?

      • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

        AM ex-mil. You asshole???

    • Waldetto

      Maybe he was using “magic bullets” like were used against JFK?

      • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

        Exaaactly. VERY majick. I mean, Arlen Specter SAID so!!

    • Paulita Gilberto

      A lot of people were hit by fragments according to a military guy on Fox News.

    • NoMoreUserNames

      I heard people who were there state that the gunfire lasted 10 to 15 minutes… and his arsenal included at least one fully automatic weapon.

      • Steven Padavana

        And which authorities said one gun was fully automatic? Cite your source or kindly shut up.

    • Cmonreallyman

      One gunmen, with multiple automatic rifles, heaps of ammunition, a high vantage point… Shooting into a crowded concert area for 15 minutes straight. You honestly think that isn’t possible with a high powered automatic rifle? Most of the people didn’t even run because they had no idea where the hell he was shooting from. Ricochets, bullet fragments, tramplings, all caused by the havok he caused. So yea… I honestly think he was able to and he did.

      • Mike S

        Exactly, trained or not, those are like near perfect settings for a shooter. Not to mention 22,000 people shoulder to shoulder with nowhere to go but down.. which doesn’t do you any f’ing good when the shooter is above you.

      • Ron Wheeler

        The problem is there is video which shows gun fire from the 4th floor. What about that and what the public is being feed on masterbate media.

      • dat_MF

        Agreed… plus a considerable amount of those injuries were caused by the chaos of the crowd urgently dispersing… Lots of ppl were trampled. Others could’ve been hurt trying to jump over obstacles, In other words, not all of the injured citizens were gunshot victims.

    • Mike Finnell

      Ummm… apparently you have no idea the capability of the weapons these days. I can fire 2500 rounds in 2 minutes. This guy had 30 minutes before he took his own life. Easy to do if you know the guns you are working with. When the trigger is pulled, the rate at which rounds are fired is the cyclic rate. Typical cyclic rates of fire are 600–900 RPM for assault rifles, 1,000-1,100 RPM in some cases, 900-1,200 RPM for submachine guns and machine pistols, and 600-1,200 RPM for machine guns. Educate before you suffocate from ignorance.

      • koolhed

        QUOTE: “I can fire 2500 rounds in 2 minutes

        Really? You and your ‘crew served weapon?’
        Just where is your crew, Rambo? Or are you so good that you don’t need a crew?
        You probably ARE THAT GOOD, in your mind, anyway.

      • Christian Thomas

        We don’t need your rate of fire, we can hear it in the videos. So bollocks to your 900 rpm.

      • Kaspar Howe

        LOL @ 2500 rounds in 2 minutes.
        FYI, no gun is made to fire this much before the barrel melts.

        • Steven Padavana

          They found 23 guns in his room. Next?

    • Stefan Hutchinson

      full auto 650 to 850 rounds per minute depending on weapon some as high 1200 tends to melt barrel reflections off multiple glass surfaces distort actual muzzle flash also mic where on firing from elevated area and the building echo canyon effect i call bs on this story

    • Darrell W. Hayes

      They didn’t do 500 bullet wound surgeries!!!!! More than half the pepple got hurt by being trampled!!!

    • Darrell W. Hayes

      They didn’t do 500 bullet wound surgeries!!! More than half of the people were hurt by being trampled!

    • Amanda Cooley

      Shoot a fully automatic weapon fed by belt ammunition …with special bullets. Only need half the bullets they will travel thrpugh sheetrock and walls and cement andultiple human bodies at a time before shrapnelling into a person or ricocheting. It is WELL MORE than possible. If it was more than one, there wouldnt have been pauses perfectly timed apart for reclipping and HUNDREDS more would have died. People were found in parking lots dead by their cars …why??? Because our adrenal glands take over and we run to familiarity

      • Edster

        I agree, the ban on Automatic or Semi Auto weapons would have DEFINITELY prevented this. I’m sure he was thinking I want to kill all these people, I’m gonna see how I can do it legally. Morons everywhere.

        • Steven Padavana

          Right – because criminals and lunatics follow gun bans, or any other law. Moron.

    • Critago

      One gun alone shot off 100 rounds. Are u educated at all?

  • mick

    The alleged shooters brother says he was not political and when he recently helped him move house he only owned a couple of hand guns.
    Here is a scenario that fits … ‘bad guys’ dressed as Hotel Security enter ‘alleged shooters’ room and shot him, they then blaze away and run before cops arrive… but one is seen and chased down outside hotel?
    just saying

    • Mary Lorraine Buchanan

      That’s what I said

    • Political Smackdown

      so they shoot him and build platforms set up cameras and shoot 500 people ya that is how it happened

      • mick

        try reading it s l o w l y.

    • Jay Hicks

      Yes, the real question is “Who shot Thomas Paddock?”

  • Mary

    If there was a shooter at that window…..why wasn’t the window broke open like the other two???

    • Jodie Henderson

      Balcony?

      • Mary

        No balcony on that side

      • Darrell W. Hayes

        No balconies on the fourth floor of any Mandalay Tower.

    • Jill M. Halbert

      Really!

      • Mary

        Yes really….

    • Username 11:11

      Cut a hole?

      • Cmonreallyman

        Then seamlessly fit it back into place without a trace of it being tampered with? Cmon, this isn’t Mission Impossible.

      • Mary

        The window would break from gun vibrating while shooting if it was just a hole

    • HLTGRP

      Vegas is known for its glory holes.

      • Mary

        Not funny..people died

        • Edster

          People die everyday, get over it.

    • Jonathan Finkel

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/524897b183dedc2d8e81a504941afda1e53cffb71d7033162e76673f8412606f.jpg

      Search for images of the Mandalay Bay hotel and you will see that some of the windows in the middle of the hotel can be opened.

      • Mary

        No they don’t…. There are several reasons why sealed-off windows are advantageous to Las Vegas hotels. Located in the Mojave Desert, the city experiences hot summers and windy winters, with dust and debris blowing through the landscape. In the summer, closed windows ensure a better regulated interior temperature with controlled air conditioning while guests are protected against external dirt in the rest of the year.
        Another issue that sealed-off windows avoid is the tragic rate of suicides in the city. CBS News reported in 2004 that a visitor to the city commits suicide more than once a month.
        “They pick Las Vegas and kill themselves,” former Clark County coroner Ron Flud told the publication. “It’s a fact.” copy and pasted from an article about the hotels on the strip…

        • Vandemark Michael

          Wrong!
          All high rises by law and fire codes have emergency window which open from the inside.
          I should know. I install windows.

          • Solomon McRann

            Being that i lived there for 16 years, and did my fair share of partying at every hotel, SOME hotels have windows that can open.. but they do not fully open. only about 2-3 inches (to help prevent suicide), there are some hotels where the window does open all he way, and some that are sealed shut, with a tiny venting window to the side or below, that again, only opens 2-3 inches.

    • Sheila

      I agree Mary!

      • Reuel Smith

        maybe because there are operable windows at private areas but that can be accessed. this is classic false flag. but the guy conveniently shot himself so no questions, move along. Hills who won’t to away jumps on this to make her nonsense political hay.

        • yehuda braun

          Your sis a classic logical fallacy. So, every murder suicide is a false flag…

    • Reuel Smith

      maybe because there are operable windows at private areas but that can be accessed. this is classic false flag. but the guy conveniently shot himself so no questions, move along. Hills who won’t to away jumps on this to make her nonsense political hay. always “lone nuts”.

  • Barry Kaplan

    Yeah, “yournewswire” has the “real” story that NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD HAS. Or, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FUCKING BULLSHIT FAKE NEWS. You people are fucking pathetic, you’re the absolute scull of this earth. But what’s worse is that you’ve got MORONS who actually believe you.

    • Username 11:11

      You aren’t helping your cause without any info.

    • Ron Wheeler

      Dude, we have to sell ads and ramp up visitors, so what the heck?

    • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

      Yet you comment on a FAKE STORY Here? Go back to driving your van with free candy written on it you ass maggot! HAHAHAHHAHA!

    • Andrew Mastrandonas

      It’s fake news, posting from fake sources in Aussie land of supposed “antifa.” It’s garbage.

  • Alan J Morgan

    More like UNFILTERED SHEEP SHIT!

    • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

      With your pic there you obviously had one parent at least that looked like sheep shit itself ass maggot! HAHAHAHAHA!

  • LizziMcD

    I’m not into conspiracy theories but my first thought was that a country music festival is likely to have many Republican or conservative patriots there. Having it be one lone wolf with multiple guns, guns all over the room, is questionable but would go far in pushing the liberal agenda to rid Americans of their 2nd Amendment rights. There’s a George Soros dream if I ever saw it.

    • HLTGRP

      “Rid them of their rights”. Lord. Why is this “right” so f*cking important to everyone anyway? How stupid of a topic is this that you people will sacrifice innocent lives to “keep your f*cking rights” to own a deadly weapon? This world, and your brains, have gone haywire. Pick a more worthwhile cause to fight for. Seriously. Guns????????? THATS what you’re going to ignore massacres of children in schools and innocent lives for? So you can keep your stupid f*cking gun?

      • Jermaine

        Yes. We will fight for our rights and won’t let one libtard gunning down a concert full of majority conservatives rob us of our rights. If you don’t like that right, move to a country that doesn’t have it. Simple solution. Not to mention, only a moron things outlawing them will prevent things like this. Outlawing drugs sure has stopped them, hasn’t it?

        • A Banned Profile

          Retweeted SarcasticRover (@SarcasticRover):
          “Humans will always murder, no gun law can change that!” screams a country that outlawed too much toothpaste on a plane.’

          And you’re one of the people who thinks it helps to take off your shoes and your belt and let the TSA feel your crotch. PS: Whenever you have to resort to calling someone a ‘libtard’ you have admitted that you have no logical rational for your position.

          • AmandaTrebiano

            Truth hurts, and it’s especially painful to those who depend on lies. Like YOU.

          • Joe Palooka

            Toothpaste on a plane was outlawed because we as a nation are cowed by 70 years of WW2 propaganda but it’s time to stand up because #IsraelDid911. Chrisopher Bollyn (investigative reporter, author) has researched it for 16 years and has conclusively proven it was a Israel/Mossad operation for the ”Greater Israel Project”
            Christopher Bollyn The Dual Deception of 9-11 and the Fraudulent War on Terror
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy_J3_pTiiw

            The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East
            https://www.amazon.com/War-Terror-Plot-Rule-Middle/dp/0985322543/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1507047778&sr=1-1

          • Jermaine

            You are mixing me up with someone else. It’s absolutely NOT ok that we have to take off our shoes and belt to get on a plane.

        • Amy Hoerner

          It always amazes me when people tell others if you don’t like it move to another country. People from other countries don’t like their countries and want to move here and you won’t let them do that! Why do you think if we don’t like our country we just have to leave it. Shouldn’t we be the change we want to see in the world?

          • Carl Maney

            But they bring there BS here from their countries….Why cant people see that…..

          • Linda Woodcock

            The only ones not wanted here are the illegals and the one’s that want to kill us Americans.

          • Mike

            they can move here legally anytime they wish. I like many foreigners who move here for work, as they work hard and not suck off the tit of the taxpayers

          • Jermaine

            Bullshit. We are fine with other people moving here THE LEGAL WAY.

          • Jermaine

            Horse shit! As long as someone moves there the legal way, they are more than welcome!

        • AmandaTrebiano

          Maybe we should make murder against the law? Oh…wait….

      • koolhed

        YOUR LOGIC: “Remove a Constitutional right of 99.99% of all American citizens because .001% might misuse that right.”

        Your thought process SUCKS.

      • tobydawgz

        Hillary… is that you in there hiding behind HLTGRP?

        • gaillowerybriggs

          My thoughts too . Hillary supporter for sure .

          • Mike

            Snowflake. Probably the type who falls from a boat and yells “help, help” hoping someone will save her, when most I know would start treading water and swimming to save themselves.

      • LizziMcD

        The Founders of this great nation created a Second Amendment for good reason. Please read about the Second Amendment in Wikipedia before you pass judgement on its importance. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights ARE WORTH FIGHTING FOR. It’s what has kept our nation balanced and free for well over two hundred years while other nations have failed their citizens.

        • Dean O’Callaghan

          i’ve been to the US.. I’ve seen the massive class gap between the haves and have nots.
          The US has failed her citizens.

          • Paul Turney

            the haves and have nots .. what America has failed it’s people is allowing corruption in our political partys that get laws made to benefit them … that and how our government pays every country out there with the citizens money instead of taking care of citizens and our interests .. not counting how we have to play the world police .. I say screw the rest of the world .. till it comes knocking on our door we let them handle it ..and stop paying other country’s expecally those that hate America .. if they can’t support their people no reason American Citizens should suffer instead of them !!!

          • frank Schlernitzaver

            That is nonsense even the poorest of the poor here are better off than all the rest of the world, and in America we are fret better ourselves and help our neighbor unlike the socialist lands where the gov controls everything and everyone suffers. Look at Venezuela now it was once a TIME Magazine model of socialism todays it is tyrannical wreck.

          • Desil

            Look at North Korea. Look at China. Then look at Russia. They got rid of Communism. That is why the Democrats hate them.

          • Waltier

            We have the most opportunity for our people in the world. We don’t believe the government should control equal outcomes (which is what you are saying), that is known as socialism. We don’t want that here in the United States. Oh and to keep it real, Trump did not bring division (the media ignored that as Obama ushered in more class warfare) division brought Trump . . . . ya see, we really CAN think for ourselves.

          • Jim Park

            Dean, this is complete false BS. The Gap is only due to those who have the will to achieve more and those who do not.. The beauty of Capitalism. We don’t force anyone to strive for success nor do we take away from those who do succeed to give to those who are too lazy. It is being taught today to give everyone a award for everything, instead of awarding those who do better than others. This is causing the gap you speak of as well as those who just don’t want to do what it takes to succeed. Socialism will NEVER happen in the US while those of us with the means to protect our country can.. Thus the reason the globalists want to cause this chaos and divide our country and take way our weapons..

          • Emily

            Socialism will never happen in the us,really?

            I guess you deny the existence of our postal service? Public education system? Medicaid and Medicare? Our fire, police departments and first responders? Library system, social security? Unemployment benefits?
            You do realize every single one of these is a socialist program in the US? All of which are somehow still serving their purpose.
            The negative stigmas and stereotypes perpetuated by our media surrounding “socialism” fear mongering is nothing more than our government attempting to manipulate the masses into believing things like universal healthcare or paid parental leave are not rights, but luxuries. You are delusional if you think capitalism is serving you well or benefiting you. Unless you’re in the 1%,you’re nothing but an expendible slave serving the oligarchial elite who truly control this country. The 99% is manipulated into fighting over the crumbs while the 1%` sit back and eat the whole cake. Wake up.

          • AmandaTrebiano

            When you become a citizen you can do something about it. In the interim feel free to continue living where you are and STFU about America–the greatest country on EARTH.

          • James L

            only you

          • Rob

            That goes back to our first black 0resident!

          • Justsaying

            The haves and have nots ? Are you kidding me with this bullshit ? This country is jam packed full of services and benefits to give ANYONE with desire and motivation to succeed.

            By no means are we wealthy, but upper middle working class with a household income in the 6 digits is actually QUITE obtainable. Hell, my husband legally immigrated to this country when he was 20 years old. Got his GED (despite having a diploma in his country), paid to attend college while holding down 2 jobs. He makes $90k annually. How was it easier for him to succeed ? Because he had the DESIRE.

            The haves and have nots… please… they suck $20k in federal taxes from us every year to compensate the “have nots”. I’m so sick of hearing that bullshit. And p.s. my husband is a POC, minority… aka NOT WHITE

        • Mark edward marchiafava

          the Second is about throwing off tyranny. We now HAVE tyranny, no one is using the second to rid us of it.

          • AmandaTrebiano

            CW2 is coming. Believe it.

        • AUGUS

          AGREE.

      • Kaspar Howe

        Because when the 2nd goes, so will all your other rights. Use your fucking brain for once.

      • Philip Warden

        You are truly a Dumb ass .move to the UK you ass wipe sorry libtard .they got laws you would love.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Stuart Gairns

          Yes – we have strong anti gun laws And NO mass shootings!

          The UK welcomes you!

          • 3cyndi23
          • AmandaTrebiano

            And knives. And cars. And a F*ckton of Moslem scumbags.

          • Stuart Gairns

            And Guns would have prevented that how?

          • William Wilhelm

            No mass shootings didn’t help those run over or knifed to death. Watched a video where ten of your police were held off by knife welding Muslim. One bullet, one gun. Welcome to your brave New world.

          • Stuart Gairns

            Oh, you mean the one where they brought him in alive?
            Wouldn’t have happened in america – the police don’t have the training.

            You would prefer summary executions in the street?

          • AmandaTrebiano

            You have mass stabbings AND NO WAY TO STOP THEM. Come at me with a knife and I will punch your ticket as a 20 year CCF permit holder. I WILL defend myself and my loved ones.

          • Stuart Gairns

            America has mass stabbings – more than the UK.
            You are grossly ill-informed.

      • Rhonda Hulbert

        I strongly suspect the weapons used to murder and maim innocent people in this vile act of evil were illegal. As far as I can see it’s the anti-gun lobby who have ‘picked this cause’. What would you offer as a solution to the current ‘trend’ for terrorists to use knives and vehicles as weapons for the destruction of life?

        • George

          YES, all the automatic capable guns in the room are illegal – fact! Only an Antifa fascist terrorist would acquire these ‘machine’ guns to kill & maim innocent conservatives. The real picture is now emerging.

      • Shane Braden

        HLTGRP: You’re a fucking moron! The very reason we have any last form of ‘freedom’ is because of our guns you dipshit! Governments are naturally the biggest threat and enemy to free human beings there are, because naturally, like any human when they come to power, they will always seek to use it to work against the interests of the Free!

        Obviously you don’t know shit about history nor governments you pathetic asshole. So shut the fuck up and take your sorry ass and complete lack of common sense elsewhere!

        • George

          The 2nd Amdt rights were the only impediment to Obama totally emasculating America, try as he might -he failed and Antifa is his answer to Trump! MSM cannot cover up this truth.

        • Stuart Gairns

          Funny how your adherence to the importance of specific constitutional amendments is directly proportional to the amount of lobbyist spending.

      • James Gentile

        You are a communist idiot, so take away every citizens right to protect themselves per the founding fathers for a FREE Country so only the criminals will obtain one…thats genius, you retard!

      • Ronnie Buchanan

        I will bet the guns were obtained illegally! Do you really believe amlaw or removing the right would prevent this from happening,??

        • Slim

          Prob got the guns from the cops them selfs. Trust none of them. Crack heads will always be crack head.

          • afftongrown

            Hell no. Our government supplied the guns!

      • odumbabgone

        Communism is the biggest killer. In fact over 220 thousand souls died in the 20th century due to fascism and communism. Put that in your dumb ass liberal mind and smoke it! You really think writing gun laws will stop terrorists and criminals from committing mass murder? You are some special kind of stupid aren’t you!

        • Mike

          Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot all took the peoples rights of gun ownership away from them. A lot more than 59 people died under their regimes.

        • Alexandra Delilah

          It stopped it in Australia, so why not. Its not the Guns, its the people, there are countries where everyone has a gun in their home in Europe but no one uses it like this. I say a gun Amnesty and get rid of them.

      • Charles Evanoff

        Guns stop bad guys, and guess what? Bad guys will always find ways of getting guns. So yes, civilians need guns.

        • Sylvia Maddox

          A gun only stopped this asshole because he turned it on himself. Anyone who was there who even had a gun couldn’t use it or even bring it out for fear that the cops would show up and shoot them instead. And please see Australia for another point.

          As to the original intent, it’s hilarious how you demand respect for our military by demanding everyone pay their nationalist duty by standing for the anthem and the flag, yet you hoard guns because that same military might one day try to murder you. Also also, the military has goddamn drones that can be controlled by very few people if they ever actually DID want to really murder us all. I don’t want to bring a gun to a drone fight.

          • Isy

            Ever considered shooting yourself with a rifle? Think about that one a minute longer. It’s not a pistol. It’s not easy to “turn on yourself.”

            Might want to reconsider what you’re saying.

          • Prophet

            Who is to say he didnt have a pistol in his room>?

          • William Wilson

            Prophet Who isn’t to say you should wait until all the facts are in before making assumptions..

          • Prophet

            Alot of what people are spewing is total BS, common sense should rule the day

          • milehisnk

            He did have a couple pistols among the 23 guns he had in his room. Of course nobody said yet which gun he used on himself.

          • Desil

            The only people who refused to stand for the Anthem were football players. Half of them felons. They stood in contempt for law and order. They didn’t stand for freedom for all. They don’t care about all the policemen who were assassinated in the last eight years by BLM. Some of which were also black. They didn’t stand for all the black people in Chicago, killed by other blacks. They stood because they do not wantvto be held responsible for their crimes. Obama lied about Ferguson and all the rest because he wanted a National police force. Kinda like the Gestapo.
            Truth is squelched by political correctness. Ust saying this will label me racist. I don’t hate blacks I hate people who hurt other people, no matter what race they are.

          • Rob

            Obama wanting national police force had the ante upped when Loretta Lynch met with UN representing not the US but the Obama administration to have UN police our major US cities, or did everyone forget?

          • Linda Woodcock

            Why not Sylvia they are pretty easy to shoot down! Best resistance to any other kind of attack.This has Obozo’s fingerprints all over it. Obozo’s and Soros just like all the other “mass murders” had. Read, read read!! Called “The New World Order”.

          • William Wilson

            Sylvia Maddox why don’t you either get the facts about our national anthem or shut the fuck.up. And do have any idea why the the Japanese didn’t attack the US mainland during WWll? It was because they “knew there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass waiting for them.”

          • milehisnk

            That quote was fake about the Admiral of Japan, just FYI. Not that the statement itself was inaccurate, but it was never said.

          • Caroline Mc Gilloway

            Milehisnk, you mean” we awakened a sleeping giant”
            I think if not said– it was the truth.

          • milehisnk

            I meant the quote about Admiral Yamamoto on why they wouldn’t invade mainland USA because “there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.” That quote was fake. I agree that the sentiment is true, given the mindset at the time of WWII it was very close to the truth though.

          • milehisnk

            This is one instance out of tens of thousands where a victim would have still been a victim if they had a gun or not. But most situations are not like this one.

            Now, the fact that you think the US military would use drones against its citizens is justification for owning every manner of firearm in existence.

      • Sheila

        Ah yeah! That’s what they want is to rid us of our guns so we have no way of protecting ourselves, dah. If u think for one minute I’ll give up my guns, ur a nut case!! Seeing this world as it is today, my advise would b to get yourself a gun before it’s too late. U better have some type of protection dummy!!!

      • AngryMarine03

        If you don’t understand the importance of an armed citizenry as it relates to freedom, I strongly suggest you stop wasting your time posting your ignorance on the web and pick up a history book.

      • Paul Turney

        you mean if the 2nd isn’t important right then why the first I mean you don’t need your right to speak out with HATE talk like this .. or how about one of the many many other rights .. because we are not a People for the Government the Government is for We the People .. do you Liberals not understand that .. reason the 2nd was put in was because our founding fathers had enough BRAINS to know no Government will ever stay HONEST so they made sure the People could take back the Government from those who are corrupt !!! go learn something other then what your puppet masters tell you

        • Stuart Gairns

          “A well regulated militia, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

          So every gun owner has to register and receive training from a “Well Regulated Militia” – right?
          I mean – it says it right there.

          • Kenny Blades

            the adjective ‘well-regulated’ implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training.

          • Stuart Gairns

            At least, that is your narrow self serving interpretation.

          • afftongrown

            Can we even trust our “militia” after 8 years of Obama? Appears every government institution has been compromised. Does that include our military? Can we trust them to protect us in time of need, or have they been replaced with Obama’s minions?

      • middlechamber

        2nd Amendment is to keep GOV in its PLACE. Or Government will put US (citizens) in a place where ever they like. I support the right to own any weapon or armament. BUT with that also comes the responsibility. You F’up you pay dearly

      • TombstoneLizard

        Yes, you are correct, strong words and socialistic redistribution of wealth will stop people from being bad. Bad people, bad! No more guns for you! (Is my sarcasm coming through loud and clear, sweet cheeks?)

      • Battman

        Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Kim, All of the evil dictators of the world have always got the people to relinquish their weapons before they committed the heinous atrocities against its own people. The founding fathers wanted to make sure we could always fight back against oppression.

      • NoBananaRepublic

        Because we have many evil people in this government that would oppress us and take away ALL of our rights if we didn’t have the 2nd amendment to protect us. The 2nd amendment protects us from a fascist government.

      • marco boudreau

        Very well said.wow
        Why do you need a gun in the first place anyway.

        • AmandaTrebiano

          I don’t visit my MOTHER without a gun.

      • David Gould

        Without the 2nd amendment there goes the rest of the “Bill of Rights” and the rest of our Freedom.Crazy people and Criminals will find a way to get a gun.They don’t obey the law anyway.Every Gun-Free zone out there is a soft target because they there will be no one there to stop them.So if you want to live like that then move to China Russia Germany back in the 30’s or Cuba or your Little Fat Kid or Rocket Man in N.Korea.

      • Steven J Sowards

        So some imaginary force is going to protect you from harm?

      • joe

        You are a fucking moron shut up and go away your opinion means NOTHING clearly you are another braindead uneducated antigun nut job that knows nothing so shut the fuck up asshat

      • Marnie Mosley-Jordan

        Are you idiot enough to think that just because you outlaw guns that criminals will obey the law? Give me a freaking break! We as American citizens have the right to protect ourselves.

      • Jim Park

        You sir are a complete idiot. We keep these for protection from anyone threatening our family or our way of life. When shit goes down and you are defenseless against any so be threats then you will realize why this was so f*cking important to everyone .

      • Linda W. Kutzer

        Because more gun control does not = less violence. If people want to kill you they will. Over fifty miners were killed by knife a couple years ago in China. Dozens were killed in Belgium with a bomb made with easily bought ingredients. And the list goes on. Disarming yourself because your enemies have weapons is NOT the answer.

      • Isy

        It’s obvious you enjoy YOUR 1st AMENDMENT rights. Ever considered shutting up permanently? Well, some of us prefer to keep that right. That means keeping the 2nd Amendment too.

      • Desil

        So, you want to take away the guns of the victims of this murderous Democrat. How stupid can you get. And after you take away the guns of law abiding people, what will you do to us next? Line us up in front of ditches and shoot us all down? We see what is happening in Europe. They are being wiped out by genocide by Muslim. No thanks we’ll keep out guns and our freedom.
        By the way, all those Mass murders of children were committed by Democrats. No self respecting, sane Republican would use a gun to kill another human.
        Ou are asking us to be sitting ducks, so you can deprive us of our freedoms.

      • William Wilhelm

        Guns sit silent until needed. Unfortunately unstable people do come in contact with guns. This is a mental health issue. Remember, this is just the beginning and will be used again on soft targets. Maybe next time they will use trucks as the weapon of choice. Sick folks will use any means to accommodate their adjective.

      • Mike

        Are you dumb or something? My guns do not assemble, load, and discharge by themselves, it takes a human to squeeze a trigger. My guns are inanimate objects that stay in their gun cases until I bring them out. Human’s kill other humans every day, by car, by truck, by knife, etc… The problem is the human mind and how we fail to treat ill people. As for rights, my Grandfather fought in WWI, and my dad in WWII, and my nephews in Iraq and Afghanistan to defend our rights. If you don’t like our inalienable rights, granted to us by our creator, affirmed to us by the US Constitution, and defended by the Armed Forces of the US, then move to a different country who doesn’t have those rights

      • Jimmy Walker

        The guns may be deadly but it’s the stupid people that kill.

      • Mike

        Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot all took the peoples rights of gun ownership away from them. A lot more than 59 people died under their regimes. Want to learn the hard cold facts, read up on it….. Read the book “the Killing Fields.”

      • AmandaTrebiano

        “Those who hammer their weapons into plows will plow for those who did not”
        “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”
        I’m a 20 year CCF permit holder. In all that time I have drawn my weapon ONE TIME–but having it SAVED MY LIFE.
        I will defend my right to have and carry a gun to my LAST breath.

      • Renee Croucher Steele

        Its the evil people with the gun pulling the trigger. It’s not the gun pulling the trigger. If it isn’t with a gun it will be with something else.

      • jaymil

        People are also killed by cars and knives. Should you be forced to give up your vehicles and kitchen utensils?

      • James L

        Sorry my guns come before your feelings, and your “for the children” arguments that went out of style in 1996 lol
        You lost the election, you lost the supreme court, and if you take our guns, chances are people will not tolerate it and you will lose a civil war. Get over yourself.

      • Diablo4965

        “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

      • Tim McCrory

        yeah we should also make owning heroin, meth, and crack illegal too…. surely if its illegal CRIMINALS wont get it…. wait….. uhm…..

      • Joe Palooka

        http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/
        http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP1.HTM
        This is the largest database of Democide death/murder by government on the net after disarmament.
        262,000,000 million slaughtered by their own governments.
        6 times more murdered by their own governments than those killed in ALL THE WARS IN THE LAST CENTURY COMBINED.

        Sandy Hoax is another false flag. 0 children killed an it is simple to figure out if you have eyes.
        OMG! SANDY HOOK KIDS _ALIVE_ CLEAR EVIDENCE!!!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXEviqUOq_k

        https://horseracingpark.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/avielle-richman-1-of-20-students-that-supposedly-died-at-the-sandy-hook-school-shooting-has-been-verified-by-28-year-veteran-forensic-expert-witness-as-being-the-same-girl-in-the-photos-of-lenie-urb/

        Nobody will ever disarm us and we’ll do every last one that tries.

      • Kilo 4/11

        This is what will return when guns are gone: http://www.vdare.com/letters/a-historically-minded-reader-reminds-us-that-the-worst-massacres-in-american-history-are-still-those-conducted-by-indians-without-guns
        It’s already happened in France and U.K., but apparently you didn’t notice.

      • milehisnk

        Because your right to survive is the most important right there is. Without that, none of the others matter. And yes, my gun is more important than those children or the people who died in Las Vegas. Why? Because I want to make sure that if someone breaks into my house, that my children are safe above all else. Most people would die for their children. I’d rather kill for them if I have to choose.

    • Andrew Mastrandonas

      LOL, what are you smoking? Complete bunk. This is like just a nutcase or his girlfriend is related to well know Muslim terrorist groups in the Philippines.

      • Battman

        Watch the video. Automatic gun fire is coming from a lower floor. Brainwashed people only see what they want to. Im so tired of Mush Minded people.

        • mammalookaboobooday

          How do you explain the fact that the only broken windows are on the 32nd floor?

          • Brittany mace

            Because thats all the mainstream media is showing you

          • Michael Campanella

            I live here, drove by it yesterday and have been watching local news constantly. i COMPLETELY believe there was more than 1 shooter from stories I am hearing locally. there also are not any broken windows other than the 2 on the 32nd floor, NOT at the location of the video. so i can not explain it

          • Phillip Manning

            explanation is a strobing flashlight. the police scanner they were talking about a strobe on the lower floors, and if you listen to the video the last blink comes after the last sound. so, unless sound now moves faster than light, this is not a valid theory. most likely we have some dude with a flashlight scared shitless and hearing automatic fire attempting to signal for help.

          • Michael Campanella

            THANK YOU for the clarification! NONE of this takes away from those who died and my friends who in sheer terror ran for their lives, watched people’s faces and heads blown next to them, even ones who grew up with my kids running for their lives watching others RIGHT NEXT to them take bullets.

          • Darkshadow667

            except they all match up with the sound with a delay of the sound after the flash

          • milehisnk

            No, they don’t. In one video, there are two points which debunk this. The first is there’s about a 3-5 second pause in the sound of the gunfire where the light continues to flash. The second is later on, when we see the light stop flashing for a short time, about 2 seconds, but the automatic gunfire continues nonstop. Also, if you’ve ever shot a rifle at night, you would know that the muzzle flash is not that intense to be so easily visible. It’s actually not much more than lighting a gas grill, and it doesn’t happen on every shot, especially once the barrel gets hot.

          • Knotalibby

            Echoes perhaps?

          • stupid werdum face

            so the guy with the flash light was able to turn his flash light on and off in rapid fashion to coincide with the gun shots? go eat a donut and leave thinking to other people

          • Michael Paul Florez

            You’re a stupid Fuck man sucks we have people like this in the world lol

          • afftongrown

            You could tell by the shots being fired. Common sense alone also tells you one man alone couldn’t have acted alone!

          • Lucy Kay

            Yes, he can, if he planned it ahead.

          • CrazyAuntJane

            Yes he could. That’s why he had so many guns. And multiple magazines to ensure he could continue murdering people! And yes this was a fully automatic weapon.

          • milehisnk

            From what I’ve seen, he had at least 1 bumpfire stock and there was a report of another weapon that was illegally modified to fire fully auto.

          • Knotalibby

            He’s not Bruce Willis. Most people can only shoot ONE powerful weapon at a time. If multiple guns were being shot at one time, it was likely more than one shooter.

          • Emma Hicks

            they said he had multiple clips loaded and multiple weapons on tripods…. all he had to do is load and fire moving from weapon to weapon allowing them to cool as he fired his additional weapons from thier tripods. this is very doable, but I believe we need to wait until the investigation is completed… there will be many rumors and fake news events.

          • afftongrown

            Who is “they” Do yoou believe everything the meda tells us these days? There is absolutely no way one man alone could pull this off alone! It would have been difficult enough to sneak in one weapon , bit the arsenal of weapons that man allegedly possesed, COME ON! There is no possible way he did this! He was a patsy. Reminiscent of the shooting of John F. Kennedy!

          • anijo

            Are there balconies with sliding doors on the lower levels? For that matter, do the windows actually OPEN on the lower floors? At some hotels, they do. Just because there are no broken windows does not mean that there was not a shooter here. For example, if the room was not occupied due to a previous broken window and the hotel repair people had it scheduled for repair early the next morning, no one would have noticed any window problems. So look beyond the broken window situation, please.

          • Eric Dean Kelly

            I live in Las Vegas and have stayed at this hotel. I can confirm that none of this hotel’s windows open. There are no sliding doors. The windows are static save for maybe a tiny air vent. This theory makes no sense to me.

          • https://www.facebook.com/groups/gaparty/ Chuck Kidd

            Just checked, Mandalay Bay has the sliding window stop that allows you to open a window approx. 6 inches to get fresh air. Definitely open enough to shoot from.

          • Peter Salamon

            a custom gold one?

          • Caroline Mc Gilloway

            MC. Yes there is an explanation for the Windows on the fourth floor.
            and how it was done. keep researching.

          • Gene Rooney

            I’m going out on a limb here. Is it possible Repelling gear and rope. If that were the case, wouldn’t the exterior of the building would also have shell casings everywhere?

          • Chris Hughes

            Not true. The entire hotel is shown and the only broken windows are on the 32nd floor.

          • Jax

            This is a bunch of downtown bullshit !

          • Mark Bramer

            I saw the exact same flashing during a Fox news broadcast, after everything was over. It isn’t gun fire, it’s a strobe of some kind. The flashing I saw, and they drew attention to while looking for the broken windows, was on a higher floor. I’m quite sure someone at Mandalay Bay could say exactly what it is. Your tinfoil hat is obviously too tight.

          • wakeupdickhead

            Are you a complete fuking moron?.. ill ask you again fuckwit… are you a complete fucking moron? ffs.. wake up dickhead

          • Jean Barton

            Do not fall for their evil game. They are trying to get us to hate like they do. Don’t stoop to their level. God bless and do not let your heart be hardened.

          • KB

            How do you explain the video with gunfire coming from a window on a much lower floor ?

          • http://weaponblueprints.com/ Mongo

            it is obviously the reflection of a police car’s lights off the windows. Look at the timing on it since it exactly mirrors the rate of flash and sequence of a police car’s lights.

          • Prophet

            and its constant it never stops

          • KB

            ah dude police lights are blue and red not hot white and the flash is much bigger – than what is seen – nice try though, better luck next time liberal.

          • http://weaponblueprints.com/ Mongo

            The first video the reflection is blue, the second one is just another light of some sort and since its still flashing while the gun shot sounds cut off at the end of a burst tells you that its not muzzle flash. A liberal, yeah right. Unlike your dumb butt, I actually own several legal machine guns and work in the firearms industry as a mechanical engineer.

          • KB

            what you is of no significance to me Mongo – what you say isn’t correct – who are you covering for certainly not the truth

          • Prophet

            The lower floor is not gunfire

          • Bobby Cooper

            What is it ? Popcorn ?

          • milehisnk

            It’s a light. Muzzle flash isn’t that bright, and it doesn’t sync with the audio. Plus the window is intact.

          • Knotalibby

            Another commenter just said they didn’t sync with the audio. Which is it?

          • KB

            seems several others have come to the same conclusion as me – this a a group conspiracy with video evidence both sound and video of more than one weapon and a 64 year old out of shape accountant could not have sustained this type of weapon and fire for this period of time. Hopefully Truth will prevail.

          • afftongrown

            Is it possible the windows on the lower floors are capable of being opened?

          • SayWhat

            How many times ate you going to ask the same question???

          • Eric Dean Kelly

            The video may have been manipulated, or it may not have been gunfire. Don’t jump to conclusions because you want to believe there’s more to the story.

          • Jax

            That’s a bunch of downtown bullshit !

          • Shella Q. Johnson

            It’s Vegas. They’ve built casinos in 1 year. You think they can’t fix a window in 1 night?

          • Isy

            I’m a maintenance repairman. I can fix a window in 10 minutes tops. And that’s because usually it’s an unfamiliar window.

          • Jax

            It’s a major crime scene , they can’t repair anything used during this time.
            It’s a bunch of downtown bullshit !

          • Prophet

            Exactly, if you watch the original non edited video , Its obvious this was not gunfire…Could have been a smoke alarm , but was not gunfire >>> I think the original video is on AJ site…Its the one where the two people are videoing and saying they are blowing the hell out of the strip tonight

          • Josh Peachey

            Do windows or patio doors not open in your country?

          • Prophet

            not in highrises, without a balcony

          • Steven Padavana

            The windows at Mandaly Bay most certainly do NOT open.

          • corey2444

            Lol Yea lets build a hotel where drunk people can open them and fall out…

          • Randy Springer

            Especially after they lost their life’s savings

          • afftongrown

            From the 4th floor? Doubt the fall would kill them.

          • Aaron Wargo

            They don’t have them due to suicide prevention

          • Shane

            You try falling 40 feet. I’ll bet lots of loot you’re dead!

          • milehisnk

            That’s with a typical building that’s about 12 feet per story. then add in the fact that the first floor of most casinos is anywhere from 20-30′ tall…

          • afftongrown

            Most hotels do have them!

          • Knotalibby

            Well apparently they can break them and fall through. None of us saw the broken windows until the following day. Who says they could not have fixed it overnight? I’m not saying it definitely happened, but I am saying it is certainly possible.

          • afftongrown

            As Josh mentioned above, don’t they have doors opening to a patio?

          • milehisnk

            Look at the Mandalay Bay. No, there are no patios.

          • b

            not in these hotels they dont all are sealed to the walls

          • Don Bishop

            In motels… NO they don’t.

          • Jennaca Combs

            you dont have to break windows. you would think someone that has all that stuff gathered up to massacre people would take the time to remove the windows as to have a better chance of not getting caught prior to doing what he did.

          • milehisnk

            They are custom gold panels of glass that are hundreds of pounds each, and are the height of the entire floor.

          • Bobby Cooper

            Each floor has an emergency exit window.

          • skreekcar

            why..just because the media has not said so..thats the plan

          • Christy Goodrich Jr.

            It’s not only the 32 floor I pass by the Mandalay Bay everyday!! Seen it with my own eyes!!!

          • Kerstin Hilgenberg Branstetter

            there were more broken windows than just the one on the 32nd floor

          • milehisnk

            There were 2 on the 32nd floor. That’s it. Given all of the video and still images of the hotel over the last 36 hours you could count the windows.

          • phoenixgirl

            that was my thought….do the lower level windows open?

          • afftongrown

            That’s all they’ve showed and told you! Open your mind and stop being led by your corrupt government!

          • Joyce Wolff

            common sense why r the windows not broken on the lower floors?

          • Knotalibby

            Why didn’t we see the broken windows on the upper floor until the following day?

          • stupid werdum face

            how do you know how many broken windows there are, did you go an inspect the building? lmao gtfoh

          • https://www.facebook.com/groups/gaparty/ Chuck Kidd

            Mandalay Bay has the sliding window stop that allows you to open a window approx. 6 inches to get fresh air. Definitely open enough to shoot from.

        • Jeffrey Crego

          exactly!!!

        • gardenerguy

          The flashing light from the 4rh floor is NOT gunfire! On Fox news yesterday at 6-7AM they showed the flashing light then. It is a reflection! Adam Housley was reporting and zoomed in on that light—repeat not gunfire! Check it out yourself.

          • generaK

            They lie idiot

          • milehisnk

            The light is too bright to be a muzzle blast.

        • Alxrulz

          No-one is shooting from the 4th floor. People that were there told me it’s a strobe light. Plus the Windows are still intact. The Melbourne antifa page is fake.

        • Shavonne Jackson

          I also seen gunfife from a lower floor. He wasnt alone

          • Prophet

            you saw gunfire from an edited video…watch the original…The flashing is constant and never stops

          • milehisnk

            No you didn’t.

        • Shonna Pomona

          Why isnt the glass broke on the 4th floor

        • Aaron Johnson

          This could not have happened. The Windows there do not open and yesterday those windows were not broken out. One shooter and from one room. SMH

        • robertrobinson

          those are reflections of light, if you look, there are no broken windows on the forth floor.

        • milehisnk

          That’s called a strobe light. Brainwashed people see conspiracies in everything, just like deeply religious people see Jesus in their coffee, toast, pancakes, etc.

          • HiJacked Daniels

            And you see leftism as the cure all ills when it is the exact opposite.

        • Derek Russell

          I’m sorry to break up a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but none of the windows on the lower floors are broken. And before you ask, no they do not open. How do I know I worked there, in security. What you see in the video is most likely a reflection off the windows. If there had been a second shooter on the 4th floor he or she would not have had a clear field of fire, there are several obstructions on that side of the building, not the least of which is a 30 or 40 ft sign. Now, is it possible there was a second shooter, sure he had enough weapons to arm a squad, so who knows,but not on a lower floor.

      • NoBananaRepublic

        It would not shock me to have the lame stream media as accomplices. They are anti American and would do anything to take this country down. Just listen to the fool from CBS that applauded this attack.

      • Jeffrey Crego

        totally sober and watching our government fuck us again! #falseflag

      • Bob Doucette

        If what you say is true, why isn’t that narrative being pursued? Something is fishy and examining multiple theories is a rational thing to do. Don’t be a presumptuous dickweed.

      • Steve Lindsey

        How did they create gunfire clear down on the 12th floor?

        • milehisnk

          Easy. There wasn’t any gunfire on any other floor than the 32nd.

      • Bobby Cooper

        Multi-Millionaires pay people to do there dirty work. Hence, Hillary Clinton

      • stupid werdum face

        Bro, take your delusions to sams club or costco where you shop and buy a bunch of garbage in a box and eat it, you are clueless to the real world around you.

    • Beth Fleetwood

      Have you been raped? Tied up, beaten, sodomized? I had a man kicking in my front door in the middle of the night. I was screaming at him to stop, he absolutly knew I and my children were in there and he came to harm, he had been watching me and my kids, I was single and I wanted to live and I wanted my kids to survive this attack on our home and our bodies. I don’t know if he wanted to rape me or my daughters or both or torture us, or kill is or all of these things. What I do know is that guns preserve life and dignity, it prevents women and children from being raped or murdered and stops suffering at the hands of evil men. Do when people advocate to take away guns they advocate for the harm of women and children. What they are saying is that their perceived right to feel safe is greater than my right to protect myself and my family. I’m glad some people live such a safe and guarded life far from the horrors of poverty and dangerous neighborhoods. They can not perceive shoving their children in bath tubs to save their lives because gun shots are ringing through air. I do, and I still would rather millions have their guns to preserve life and liberty. People in their ignorance do not even know that the countries with fun control have higher murder rates than America per multiple studies most notably Harvard a liberal college found these facts. Gun grabbers don’t like facts it negates their knee jerk emotional solutions to evil and aggression go check the record the only thing that stops violence is greater violence and when your life is on the line, emotions won’t save you, your ideals won’t save you. Until we rid this world of evil that lays in the hearts of human kind that drives violence, harm, rape and murder for that is what seeds deeds, not weapons, I will cling to my guns to insure peace, my life and the lives of my loved ones.

      • Duby

        Shoot first and ask questions later!!

        • Hanna Preserve

          When an uninvited person enters your dwelling, it’s always, shoot first.
          … unless you want to wait and see what happens next.

          • disqus_DF12xq8kRw

            Not at all true! Gun safety is knowing your target first. That person you shoot COULD be your teenage son/daughter sneaking in late…..or one of their friends…. (my point is you have to know without a doubt)…..ALWAYS know your target.

          • Liberty’s Advocate

            Exactly! That is the first rule (and Cardinal Rule) of responsible gun ownership and use.

          • Simplynotred

            Legal BS does not save your life, its just another way of putting too much caution, which could get you killed it too much time is given to an violent intruder.

          • Liberty’s Advocate

            Idiots who pay no attention to the “Legal BS” and shout down those who do endanger the well-being of others who may be influenced by their reckless attitude. It serves no useful purpose to act impulsively, recklessly if those actions take an innocent life and you spend the rest of yours behind bars … or lose everything you own to a successful civil suit. “Legal BS” my a$$!!

          • A Banned Profile

            So, then it’s useless to have any laws at all? Great, I’ll take your car.

          • Ed

            and you will be known as a thief.

          • subsistent1

            there is only one law and only one that matters. If us humans wiped each other completely off the face of the earth today, tomorrow no ‘man made laws’ would apply. The only law is: the law of nature. Nature being survival of the fittest. It applies to everything, including you.

          • COMPU-TRON

            How many guns do you have?

          • Liberty’s Advocate

            Why that would be any of your business is something I am sure only you could answer. Suffice to say I have had Concealed Weapons permits issued by 10 Sheriff’s in three states over 49 years last August, and I am legal to carry in 38 states. And you?

          • Simplynotred

            Unless you target is Violent towards you and will not respond to questions like WHO ARE YOU!

          • Steve

            AS a gun owner and VERY pro 2a person, edit your post to not sound completely reckless before YOUR face is the next one liberals are using against us.

          • Drew Walker

            true that I have been smeared by liberal groups for speaking out

          • Michael Horne

            Hanna prolly IS a lefty troll

          • Joe Smith

            No, it is that you were afraid for your life first, then you shot in fear of your life. Posts like this can be used against you, don’t be a fool and post like that, a lawyer would eat you up in court.

          • Terri

            Yes!!

          • Terry Melvin

            Identify, evaluate, then shoot if necessary.

          • CHAR17

            What’s that expression? “I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six”.

        • jumper

          Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

          • J.C Smith

            What the hell does that even mean in this context?

          • jumper

            Apparently you do selective reading and may be a little thick.

          • J.C Smith

            As opposed to selective reading and verbal flatulence(not exactly shit, per say, but no substance)?

            I understand WHAT the phrase means, as well as how it loosely(rimshot– I can’t stop!) relates to the flow of conversation(obviously, any literate English speaker can). . . But, yeah, the thickness. . . . guess I had a hard time believing anyone could think that way.

            In fact, I’d wager you’re smarter than that. You know, a lot of people aren’t, and go whichever way the wind blows.

            FTR, I keep it on me.

            “Who the fuck wants to play with guns? A lot of holes a lot of blood, dog, that shit ain’t fun.”

          • jumper

            Do not drink this early, you make no sense and apparently try to say things to provoke a response, from your first post you have been rambling and not paying attention.

          • Walter Reed

            J.C., if you have to ask that question, you are part of the PROBLEM!

        • Deidre

          Disagree. It may be your son or daughter sneaking in the window because they forgot their key. Enough said.

      • Lucy Kay

        So how the guns helped the people in Las Vegas ? Stupid comment !

        • HiJacked Daniels

          Did you flunk english grammar?

          • Lucy Kay

            My bad grammar won’t kill anybody, but your crazy mind will.

          • CaliGirl115

            But your ignorance can and will get you killed, Lucy Kay.

          • Lucy Kay

            May be , if I continue to live in USA. I came yesterday from a trip to Germany -for the whole time I saw 3 police cars and national flags only on the city halls. Here the normal people are less and less. May be it’s time for a happy divorce from the conservatives.

          • Knotalibby

            Bye.

          • Gene

            Please go, America will thank you.

          • porclain

            Lucy did you learn a damned thing in Germany. If you were there maybe you should have done some history review of that country. You do not seem to be able to reason things out.

          • MSSLVZ

            Bye

          • Joe Miester

            Move to Germany then, ANTIFA beoch!

          • Lucy Kay

            I will !

          • Proud American

            You are a real liberal mental case Lucy Kay, you should be held for a psych eval, maybe committed or deported for being an undesirable alien, I read your comments bashing our President and republicans you dumb bitch

          • Lucy Kay

            BTW, what is your advice to me? Buy a gun and start killing people, who I’m afraid of, before they kill me ?

          • Gene

            Good people buy weapons to hopefully never use it idiot. We train, and train, and hope to God to always live in quiet peace. Will use it if ever needed. Good grief, your ability to even critically think is like that of a 10 year old girl.

          • porclain

            That is a stupid question as you well know. You would be one of those people that would voluntarily get on a cattle box car and hope you are going to a real work camp. You can do what you like with your life but not with mine. So don’t have a gun no one is forcing you. But try to take mine and I will shoot.

          • porclain

            Are you even aware that every citizen in Switzerland is required to own a gun and how to use it. Tell me any country during WWII that was not attacked and allowed to stay Neutral only Switzerland. Because the Germans did not want to take on an entire country that was armed.

          • Jan Anders

            Very true.

          • Joe Smith

            No buy a gun and kill the people who are threatening your life or the more likely scenario that they will see the gun and run and no life is taken.

          • HiJacked Daniels

            Makes you sound stupid and makes it difficult for you to sell your assertions.

          • Lucy Kay

            Having not a perfect English may be can tell you that I speak more than one language. What about you ? Does speaking only English make you smarter ?

          • porclain

            Does speaking your nonscense in different language make you smarter? I think you can spout the same bullshit how ever many ways you want to.

          • HiJacked Daniels

            You don’t sound very smart in any language.

          • MSSLVZ

            So does that mean English is not your native language? Then America is not your native country. Maybe you should move back to your native land. You seem to prefer their laws so make yourself happy — leave.

          • Stan Osburn

            Lucy, the point they’re making is that the gungrabbers will use an incident like this one to take away our rights to bear arms, thus leaving us defenseless against criminals. The fact is, if more honest citizens were armed and happen to see the shooter, and you can see how easy it was to see him, they could have indeed shot the shooter. But that’s not the point these people are trying to make. Gun rights would not make any difference for the concert goers except for the scenario I just described, but if you’re a Hillary Hugger you probably agree with her that the second amendment should be abolished, which then leaves the public at the mercy of government and criminals.

          • Lucy Kay

            When the policemen come, how they will know who are the bad and who are the good guys ?

          • Gene

            Your abject stupidity will get many killed by leaving good people defenseless.

          • Rob36

            ”Abject stupidity” said the creationist troll….

          • Gene

            Come simple one, 2nd law destroys maco evo, come now, show me your genius, and rebut it.

          • Rob36

            You’re right. The fossil records are fake, and Adam and Eve DID happen. You’re using an ancient fairy tale as a cloak to hide your latent attraction to other men, and your hatred of women. Your poor poor children. Imagine discovering you’re gay, and having you as the man of the house, the person a child should be able to go to for unconditional love.

          • Gene

            yo dude, please do not ramble on, pick a singular subject, and we can discuss it.

          • Gene

            Don’t be an uninformed simpleton all of your life. Go watch a Ravi Zacharias video, or a chuck Missler video and get back with me kid.

          • jea2comments

            Yes…your crazy libtard-party line thinking has killed more than most realize. Fascist, Marxist thinkers are dangerous!

        • CrazyAuntJane

          You are so brainwashed! the gun used in Las Vegas was Illegal to possess. Private ownership of legal guns provided personal protection!

          • Lucy Kay

            So again -how your legal weapon would protect you if you were there ? The coming police would see a woman with gun and will kill her first.

          • Beeta

            By shooting back instead of running and getting shot in the back running. a gun owner has been trained and usually knows how to handle a gun and has respect for the weapon. If a terrorist walks in a room of people and starts shooting and you are armed you choose that moment to shoot back with out drawing attention of the shooter to yourself the shoot to kill. That appears to be common sense to me. Today we go no where with our our guns for our own protection if we are approached by a would be killer , robber , rapist etc. . Telling them to not shoot you or don’t rape me does not work. Getting taken down with a gun is the only thing they understand.

          • Christopher Lee
          • Lucy Kay

            Hahaha . In the whole world is opposite,.

          • Simplynotred

            No The Murder Rate for Most Carribean Countries is way Higher than the said rate in America.

            https://youtu.be/pZSRg2mJi3s

            Trouble is most people who feel don’t think about the Facts.

            Try it you might actually be listened to, rather than bashed for your ignorance.

          • Knotalibby

            So again, what if the guy next door, who heard the shots, had a gun and was able to stop him? What about that?

          • Robert

            The fact we have to answer is why it is so stupid.
            Read their comments lady. The basic instinct of fighting fire with fire is a natural thing.
            Also it is logical.
            Which is why it is sad we are having to spell it out to the highly illogical.

          • Simplynotred

            Who said Lucy was logical, many women still demonstrate extreme emotions during horrendous events. In fact many feminized men are very similar i.e. the NFL Kneelers for the Flag.

          • Gene

            Look idiot woman, soldiers with full body armor and rifles and training get killed all the time. Having a firearm does not mean you cannot die, it just means you can have a fighting chance and not be slaughtered utterly defenseless. An attacker always gets the element of surprise, duh. Good grief, the utter stupidity is strong with you. Remeber, logic and reason are the province of MEN.

          • Angie

            Gee, you really like to call women idiots. What do you have against women?

          • Gene

            When utter stupidity, without the simplest forms of logic being used, yep, you got it, idiot is the NICEST thing I can say. While logic and reason are the province of MEN, females can use basic logic and it is sad to see it just tossed out the window for emotional rants.

          • Simplynotred

            No just idiots who happen to be women.

          • jea2comments

            Never confuse Kay – the libtard with facts…

          • Joe Smith

            Airbags in cars don’t save every life and have actually caused deaths, does it make sense to not have an airbag because it can’t be used in 100% of the situations?
            Also, someone with a gun could have returned fire making him retreat and he would have killed less people. Not the best chance but better then yelling bang at him.

          • chesterarthur

            They didn’t ‘see’ the gunman for quite a while.So why would they hunt for an innocent gun owner?

          • Emma Hicks

            I agree I think gun are blamed for the actions of the person holding it. Guns are not bad… it does not matter what weapon you hold if you want to kill you will… People have been killed with hammers, screwdrivers, wood, cars, knives, water and even fabrics… We do not blame these items so why do we put the blame of this action on the guns.

          • LLCURRAN

            I had my gun sitting on my dresser loaded and it never got up and shot anyone and didn’t threten anyone so its not the gun its the brain dead idiot holding it

          • Simplynotred

            Amazing how guns don’t have feet and hands on them to walk around and just start shooting people. Knives too, and pipe bombs, and sissors, and bows/arrows, and axes, and …….. ETC!

          • ironorchid

            Blame guns because the killer would have had a hard time killing/injuring 500+ people with a pen knife and a pair of scissors.

          • Joe Smith

            Or he could have dropped 5 gal bottles of gas with a fuse and killed many more in a worse manner.

          • Dylan Hunter

            NO, no they were not, they were all bought legally, this is a confirmed fact.

          • FlCracker2

            Good to know a half a day investigation has given us “confirmed facts” so CNN can spout them.

          • Karen Bonner

            He had multiple guns, moron, and most of them were legal for any american retard to possess.

        • Beeta

          Yes that was a stupid comment. There are situations at that distance that a hand pistol is not in range and they had no idea where the shots were coming from. People carry hand guns not rifles etc for long range.. Those would be no good for where the shooter was. BUT there has been so many incidents where some one having a gun stopped a shooter from killing a mass amount of people. LIke at the church the other day in the news and so many instances where the shooter was shot by someone near by.. People carrying guns saves lives. I had rather be in a room with people carrying than not. It gives me a sense of security to know someone is there with weapon if a terrorist walks in that can take him down. Countries with strict gun laws are insane. People are defenseless and sitting ducks for the killers and they know that no one is armed so they can kill at will. It is a deterrent to would be killers that are making plans to kill people if they think people are armed there oppose to not being armed.

        • Knotalibby

          Did you know that the concert goers were in a GUN FREE ZONE???? Did you know that?? I’ll bet the hotel probably even had a sign on the door, as many do, that said NO FIREARMS. What good did a damned sign do 59 people? What good did a gun free zone do those same 59 people???? Don’t you get it? Stupid comment, right back at you. What would you have done in their situation?? I know damned well what you’d have done. You’d have hunkered down and waited for a man with a gun to save your ass. Maybe if the guy next door had a gun, he could have busted down the door and shot the asshole after 10 people, or one. No, lets all sit back and let the madmen pick us off one by one. YOU go first!

          • Simplynotred

            To a certain Extent the “Gun Free Zone” was partially responsible for the death of many of those who died and wounded. Imagine if everyone started shooting at the gun fire that was coming from the 12th Floor, NOT THE 32nd. https://youtu.be/XqfFtop8G20

          • Proud American

            Gun free zone were invented by brain dead clueless liberals to create soft targets for terrorists and crazed killers, because they know most law abiding citizens wont be armed, so its like shooting fish in a barrel to them, WAKE UP BRAIN DEAD LIBERALS!

        • Devin Anderson

          Just so you know, I own a bump stock, which is legal. I rarely use it (because shooting is an expensive hobby). Does that make me a bad man? No. I get to keep it. I get to keep my AR-15, because one day, within the next 10-20 years, a tyrant will arise in the US. I say damn him, and damn all the liberals that want to take away “…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms…”

          • Proud American

            Amen Devin, feel the same way, ordered a bump stock today, before they are outlawed by liberals

          • bklynguy

            You have a point except the tyrant is here already. I agree: keep our guns so we can fight the Trumpanzees who want to destroy American democracy and replace it with a dictatorship like the ones in Turkey or Russia

        • porclain

          Thanks to Dems that event was in a “gun free zone” how did that law help? I would love to see every fkin politician that voted for the “Gun Free Zones” to have to have one of those signs in their front yard. It an open invitation to a turkey shoot for criminals you idiot.

        • disqus_DF12xq8kRw

          Tell how guns played a roll with Timothy McVeigh? Incidentally, his massacre killed FAR more people without a gun. Take away alllllll of the guns on our planet and we will still have people who can make bombs from ordinary household supplies. It’s not the weapon, it’s our tolerance, our media, our technology……….

        • Joe

          sober up damnit…..

        • Simplynotred

          Lucy Kay Stupid comment from Ignorant Person.

        • chesterarthur

          So how could the law abiding defend themselves in a gun free zone?Stupid comment.

      • Dawn

        Nobody is trying to take away regular guns. I’m sure you didn’t have an m16, ar15 or any other automatic rifle to protect yourself with. Stop freaking out and spreading nonsense! This narrative must stop. We need to make better laws, period.

        • Devin Anderson

          You don’t know the laws already in place you troll bot.

        • Gene

          Simple idiot, liberals desperately want to take away ‘regular’ guns, especially ar15s and ar10s. Not that you have even the slightest idea of what I speak. Tens of millions of us own semi auto rifles and will NEVER give them up. Name a law that would prevent this deep state operation? There are NON E you stupid idiot. Look at gun conmtrolled france, hows that working out for them? huh? stupid woman.

          • eastbay

            Only criminals don’t follow the law. Check the prison populations and ask one if they give a fook about laws.

          • Dazza

            Gun controlled Australia, NewZealand, Germany, Netherlands etc etc etc it’s working out just fine for us all. I mean to say uncontrolled America and still no citizen with a gun was able to stop this guy, what good is your semi-auto when your attacker is 500mtrs away and your family lie dead around you??

          • Gene

            Or France where ONLY the bad guys used ak47s and knives to slaughter there victims. Remember brevik who with gun controlled europe he slaughtered dozens of defenseless children, no one there had a firearm to defend against it. Your totally clueless. There is NO DEFENSE when an attacker attacks, the bad guy gets the element of surprise.

          • Joe Smith

            How did being gunless work for you during WWII when the Germans waltzed in and did as they pleased until people like us with guns came and saved you……again.
            You won’t see that here.

          • Dazza

            People like you, haha, Armies from across the world were involved in WWII, not a bunch of wannabe Rambo civilians playing cowboy on the weekend.
            What exactly do you think would happen if your government were to decide to go all Hitler on your ass!? You and your neighbour would stand out in the middle of the street and stop the trained soldiers from taking over your town, all ‘Red dawn style’ ?
            And why the hell would the government do it anyway, who wants to take over a country that can barely stand on its own two feet anyway!?

          • Joe Smith

            The point was because you are a little slow, is that people do not invade a country with 200 million armed citizens and yes, unlike your type that would just roll over and show your belly when threatened, yes i would fight anywhere.
            We would be not the victims like the unarmed subjects of the countries this has happened to in the past
            If we are such push overs, come on down and take our country from us….oh ya, you can’t because you are a powerless subject instead of a citizen like we are..

          • Dazza

            Joe you and your fellow Americans sadly are the victims, you live in fear, you have lost the battle.
            The NRA is a fear machine that is owned by the gun companies and you, just like the girl that thinks the cream will make her skinny, thinks the gun will make you a man so you go out and buy 1, 2 what ever.
            No body wants to take over your country, nobody cares about your sad little country except to make money from it.

          • Joe Smith

            I am afraid of very little and we are no where close to losing the war, more pro gun legislation has been passed in the last several years than laws against by a long shot.

            The only fear machine is the liberal media who trumpet every bad issue with guns all over the news at every opportunity but ignore that many times over more times a gun is used to save so they can push their agenda to disarm and then therefore control the people.

            A gun doesn’t make you a man no more than a hammer makes you a carpenter, it is just a useful tool.

            And there is always someone who wants to take over any country, WWII was a blink of the eye ago as far as time goes, many of the people involved are still alive so it is still current history.

            How many wars are being fought all over the world by countries wanting take over another territory?

            You keep your head in the sand, my eyes are wide open and my vision is clear.

          • Karen Bonner

            I could kill you in your sleep tonight and you wouldn’t even have a clue I was there. Your guns won’t do shit to save you, coward.

          • Gene

            lmao, an idiot female talking tough. Let me break it down for you little girl, You are NOT my equal, no female is. You see virtually everything made in this world? ALL by MEN. So just make babies and make me a sammich, ok!

          • Rob36

            Run from the women Gene, they’re evil., just be careful you don’t fall off the edge of Earth.

          • Gene

            Women are man’s helper. Not that oyu have ANY clue of what I speak.

          • A Banned Profile

            Women are men’s creators. That really burns you, doesn’t it, Gene?

          • Gene

            Nope, Gen 3 curse, not that a simpleton as yourself will even understand the meaning. The man is given the command to provide and protect the family. That command was never given to the female. They are to be the man’s helper and bear offspring and raise offspring. Not a hard concept kid.

          • A Banned Profile

            Bible thumper, nobody cares what your stupid bible says. Your bible makes a great flyswatter.

          • Gene

            Awww, little girl, you would be HELPLESS without a MAN. In no way are you equal to a Man, just another feminist lie. Men want women, for sex of course. Females NEED men. It’s that simple.

          • jea2comments

            Shut your hateful mouth…

          • Joe Smith

            Unless you can produce sperm also, then no they are not. But maybe YOU can…lol

          • A Banned Profile

            You can produce all the sperm you want, but you can’t get a human being into the world without the goodwill of it’s mother. It might take two to create a zygote, but it takes the women to bring it to this planet, having been started it can only be finished by her, it cannot be done with her, but it can easily be done without you. Many a baby is born to a widowed woman. You, also would have made a fine abortion. I think your mother made the wrong choice.

          • Joe Smith

            You can have all the wombs and eggs you want but will be barren without sperm. Tell me how you reproduce without sperm. Its just ignorance to say otherwise that it takes both a man and a woman to create a life. I will admit the mom has the worse end of the deal for sure.
            BTW, when you have to resort to insults, it means you facts can’t stand on their own, there is no sense with me arguing with your lack of knowledge.

          • A Banned Profile

            Barren is fine. Nobody is just dying to give the likes of you life. I’m sure your mother would have been delighted to skip it altogether. And you owe your mother your life, it wasn’t your father who decided not to abort you. I’m sure every lady you meet would rather skip it then allow you to breed.

          • Joe Smith

            https://www.naturalnews.com/055473_fertilization_reproduction_eggs.html

            There you go, men CAN have babies without a woman yet a woman can’t have a baby without a man….sorry to destroy your only sense of worth.

          • Joe Ayers

            Your pig of a mother tried to abort you by throwing herself down the stairs, but it only made the fetus retarded.

          • Gene

            Nope, that’s their design. Females are designed to be sex objects ( if females were not physically attractive and we men did not want sex), we men would not go NEAR any female. For what purpose, other than sex, does a woman offer ANYTHING of substance? great conversation, nope. Great political discussion? Again, nope. History discussion, theology discussion, Nope, and double Nope. This is not to say that females are ONLY good for sex and raising of offspring, but it is their primary reason and Men is to provide resources for said family.

          • Rob36

            you’re quite a good troll., you’ve fully embraced this loony character. Brava Gene, Brava.

          • Gene

            I’m a lot of things kid, troll is not one of them.

          • Rob36

            Let’s use the word of the bible to disenfranchise women. Let Jesus be heard – No women, no gay people, whites only, it’s all in the bible right Gene? Let the Lord be heard…

          • Gene

            You accuse and assume soo many things that are simply not true, but then again, you serve your master well, as he accuses the brethren night and day before the throne of God.

          • Rob36

            Aren’t there places in the Middle East where your sort would feel more comfortable?

          • Gene

            That’s what the atheist, liberal/left is trying to bring to America, you would fit right in. These groups HATE judeo christian America.

          • Rob36

            You’re a relic. The quicker your sort are extinct, the better. NO religion in school, or forced on innocent kids by their mentally-ill parents.

          • Gene

            Yet you are quite happy FORCING your kids to believe whatever nonsense YOU believe, right bucko?

          • Rob36

            Forced to question the world around them, and what they’re told is fact, yes. Yours are like Rod and Todd Flanders, hate-filled little ignoramuses spewing fairy tales and attacking minorities.

          • Gene

            The ignoramus is you. I can prove my positions with factual, empirical data. Your little fantasy about man coming from nothing, all by chance-utterly laughable. What minority have I attacked eh bub?

          • Rob36

            ”factual empirical data” that Adam and Eve really happened., again your poor poor children.

          • Gene

            The bible proves itself, not that you have any idea about it. Go do your homework and get back with me. watch gospel in genesis youtube.to get a sense of how perfect the bible actually is.

          • Rob36

            ….aaaand it still didn’t happen. and there’s still no God, only the eyes of you religious loonies – those Muslim ones too – y’all are cracked in the head – get well/help soon. God is gay.

          • Gene

            and yet you will stand before the Great White Throne and be judged by the Lotrd God. best bring ice bub.

          • Rob36

            the great white throne aka the toilet – apt considering you’re lost, deep in the realms of insanity, and are talking shit. Please speak to a professional – there is no god, and you need treatment to cure you. Once cured, you’ll find A.you’re no longer a homophobe. B. you’re no longer racist. C. women no longer terrify you. D. your children will respect you. They done a good job on you, you deluded old closet case. god loves dildos up his bum.

          • Gene

            The cross is foolishness to them that are perishing…. that would be you. Enjoy THIS life, because there is hell to pay in the next.

          • Rob36

            ooh spank me daddy, I’ve been a naughty boy…

          • Gene

            Heaven is real, hell is hot, best bring ice.

          • Rob36

            yes daddy – i’ll need ice after you spank me daddy.

          • jea2comments

            Sick troll…

          • jea2comments

            True that…

          • jea2comments

            Just shut your disgusting mouth already! You need a bar of soap for your dirty mouth!

          • Rob36

            Oooh, is daddy getting angry? Does Daddy need to spank me?

          • jea2comments

            Yep!

          • jea2comments

            Spoken like a true clueless libtard…

          • Rob36

            ”libtard” – awww man, that is AMAZING, pure brilliant, like a play on liberal and retard. I’ve never heard that before, so brava to you, brava. Do you mind if i use it moving forward? Libtard – so so funny, genius. Well done you.

          • Joe Ayers

            Another cum drinking asshole that believes in the invisible man. Yawn.

          • Gene

            and another mocker going to hell.

          • Joe Ayers

            Fuck you Gene. Pieces of shit like you are the main reason this world is so fucked up. All you dumbasses with your invisible man shit. Grow up and lose the imaginary friend, you fucking retard.

          • Gene

            The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

          • jea2comments

            Spoken like a true, hateful libtard!

          • jea2comments

            Your mouth is disgusting! Shut-up already!

          • Gene

            Can you prove otherwise, anyone, anyone? Bueller? anyone?

          • Gene

            Females have a sin nature just like us men, we are ALL evil, do you not know this simple truth?

          • A Banned Profile

            Every man in this world got here by the grace of some good woman, Gene. You, and all men, owe your very existence to your mother, who let you live. In your case, your mother should be slapped for letting you live. A man like you would have made a fine abortion!

          • Gene

            Every woman and man got her by the grace of some mans semen, so what’s your point clown?

          • A Banned Profile

            My point is that when the products of conception are destined to grow up to be a repressive little hole like you, it behooves the mother to abort it. And my point is that women are in control of who gets born in this world, stupid. Your little drippy weiner just drips and is done. We decide who will be born, which is why your mother should be slapped for her bad decision. And we decide who will breed, which is why self respecting women will not allow creeps like you to breed.

          • Gene

            Most American women today are nothing but whores, you do realize that men in America 18-34 , over 70% are NOT married. Why? Because men are aware that marriage offers NOTHING to them. Who wants a high mileage whore that thinks she’s the equal to a man, who does not know when to shut up, and will not submit to a man’s leadership.

          • jea2comments

            You really seem to dislike women, that makes you a sexist. Just be quiet already!

          • Gene

            So speaking the truth makes me a sexist? Been called worse by better. Next.

          • jea2comments

            God made women to be man’s help-mate. You’re disrespecting women with your sexist and brash comments.
            You claim to believe in God…so why don’t you act like it? I doubt the Lord would approve of your comments.

          • Gene

            List the comments I have made that disprect women.

          • Gene

            Women are not equal to men. Woman are unfit for leadership. Men are smarter than women, and anything practiced is done better than men. None of these comments ‘disrespect’ women. Also, women ARE sex objects, again is not ‘disrespectful’ . So, list my ‘disrespectful’ comments please.

          • Joe Smith

            Most women were supported by a man during this time.

          • A Banned Profile

            Most huh? I’ll wait while you prove that. Most really isn’t a very impressive statistic when splashed up against all, without exception, all men, without exception, owe their lives to women. That doesn’t bother MOST men, or at least those who are adequately endowed.

          • Joe Smith

            No woman would exist without a man, same thing. That wouldn’t bother most women, except those who are wore out below.

          • Gene

            Every child born here today is by the semen of a MAN, so your point is?

          • Joe Ayers

            You wouldn’t even make a good cum dumpster for a drunk.

          • A Banned Profile

            Oh Little Man, thou dost protest too much! Little, Little Man.

          • Gene

            typical female shaming tactics do not work on me little girl. Present a cogent argument, if you can, and I will reply.

          • jea2comments

            You should know…Little man…

          • Joe Ayers

            IF she sucks your cock before making that sammich, you should get an STD check

          • Gene

            If you married a virgin, and she’s faithful, no concern of std’s there bubby.

          • Simplynotred

            I could kill you as you try to kill me with my AR15 and you would be dead. So whats your point?

          • Joe Miester

            What we have here is full tilt ANTIFA beoch!!! With her reasoning, ANTIFA would be proud to have her.

          • Joe Smith

            You wouldn’t have a chance. You would have to get past an alarm system, 3 dogs and a .357 magnum first. Also, guns in America are used well over a million times a year for defense, doesn’t sound like those guns are no good to me.

          • A Banned Profile

            What no Navy Seals? Well, I hope you also have your security blankie, pacifier and your teddy bear. Sorry you got such a scare, little tiger! Mama won’t let anybody hurt you, you’ll be alright now, just be quiet.

          • Joe Smith

            You would be the one pissing your pants if someone came for you, just because you are the victim type doesn’t mean everyone is. I sleep quite well at night. Its a safty issue, I protect my family. Its no different that wearing a seatbelt, if you need it, you have it if you don’t end up needing it, all the better, it does not mean you are afraid to drive.

          • Joe Smith

            Upset now that you know you are worthless and men can have babies without women but women cant have babies without men? Awwwww Sorry you are worthless now…LOL
            https://www.naturalnews.com/055473_fertilization_reproduction_eggs.html

          • A Banned Profile

            He does seem very intimidated by femininity, Karen.

          • A Banned Profile

            What would a right-wing MRA hole like you know about what ‘liberals want’? You are clearly not a liberal and so you know shit about what liberals want. And you will continue knowing shit about it until you listen to the liberals tell you what they want.

          • Gene

            Go watch the news, you see all the liberals in hollyweird and leftist pols talking about more gun control. Yeah bub, get a clue.

        • Dylan Hunter

          Yeah because God knows all the current gun laws we ALREADY have on the books worked out just fine in Vegas.
          SPARE US THE ANTI-GUN rhetoric.
          CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAW
          #youcan’tfixstupid

          • Dazza

            All the gun laws you already have???
            Blind freddy with a mental condition and an FBI no-fly order can still buy a gun, what f#cken laws !!!

          • Karen Bonner

            Non-criminals don’t follow the law either. You ever speed or throw a cigarette butt on the ground, hypocrite? Shove your guns up your ass you yanky coward.

          • Joe Miester

            STFU ANTIFA CUUUUNT!!

          • Simplynotred

            I don’t think she knows what a STFU is, maybe she just needs a Silencer on her PIE HOLE! That should keep the crap from coming out.

          • Simplynotred

            Oooohh Your So Scary! NOT!

          • Joe Smith

            Non criminals don’t follow the law? Breaking a law is necessary to be called a criminal genius!..LOL

            crim·i·nal
            ˈkrim(ə)n(ə)l/Submit
            noun
            1.
            a person who has committed a crime.
            “these men are dangerous criminals”
            synonyms: lawbreaker, offender, villain, delinquent, felon, convict, malefactor, wrongdoer, culprit, miscreant; More

          • A Banned Profile

            By your logic, Joe, we need not bother to have any laws whatsoever, since criminals do not obey laws. So, no laws saying I can’t steal your car, or burn down your house, laws are useless things anyway.

          • Joe Smith

            Not at all, bu if someone steals your car, you don’t punish all car owners, if someone gets a DWI, you don’t take everybody’s licence away. So if someone misuses a gun, you don’t ban a gun etc. for the rest of the gun owners. thats logic

          • jea2comments

            Go back to HuffPo with your own kind…

        • Nicole Shoemaker

          Yes, and better criminals who will obey them!
          They are criminals because they DO NOT ONEY LAWS….
          In the Sandy Hook shooting, that man was NOT supposed to have guns. We can see how that stopped him.

          • Simplynotred

            Are you sure all the Home Buy off on December 25th 2009 isn’t the real story behind Sandy Hook?
            New Sandy Hook Bombshell! Everyone Got FREE Houses
            https://youtu.be/7wplo-wWTCw

        • mike

          i absolutly know i could build a complete gun from scratch ! with my normal garage tools. i dnt know the answer. .but getting guns ,knives, semi trcks ,pioson in food,poison innthe water system ! is NO PROBLEM IF THEY WANT TO COMMIT MURDER!

          • A Banned Profile

            That’d be a lot of trouble though, it wouldn’t happen on a whim. And because your gun-smithing skills are undeveloped the gun would be a clunker, certainly not capable of the kind of fast fire the shooter in Las Vegas used.

        • Joe

          they got you brainwashed………….

        • Mikey’s

          Lol that was a gun free zone moron criminals don’t give a damn about your paper laws look at Shitcago.

        • Cuda

          Well your post is already incorrect! A M-16 is selective fire ( 3 rounds), a AR-15 is single fire semi-automatic ( means it just reloads itself ) so neither are full automatic’s which are legal to own but there are taxes and NFA requirements to be met taking as long as 6 months to a year for approval!
          The last attempt ( by a Clinton by the way) used cosmetic differences to ban guns, handgrips, bayonet lugs, heck even the color black and a flash hider! Not one thing in that ban made a difference but it was a rally point for the left and a crying point when it sunset, freaking out needs to be done because every time there is a murder with a gun the left looks to punish the innocent with restrictions and bans! Obama would have if he could have, the point they use he didn’t ban anything is invalid because he tried and failed, he thought he could slide a EO through but even his own counsel said it won’t fly!

          • Joe Smith

            A M-16 does 3 round bursts AND full automatic

          • FlCracker2

            Try a bump stock on that AR.

        • Joe Smith

          Ar-15’s ARE regular guns and legal machine guns have been used about 3 times since the 1930s to commit a crime and who are you to tell me what I need to protect myself?

          • A Banned Profile

            It’s too bad you are so craven and scared all the time.

          • Joe Smith

            I am not scared of much, I can protect myself, too bad you are such a potential victim.

          • A Banned Profile

            You certainly seem scared, Joe. I’m not scared. Why are you so craven?

          • Joe Smith

            Show me anything in my post that says I am afraid or do you just make things up?

          • jea2comments

            HuffPo called – their looking for you…

        • FlCracker2

          Who are you to tell me what I need?

        • Jerry Kellams-Chief

          Define “regular guns”. And AR15’s are no more “automatic” than a .22 rifle. They are SEMI-auto, just like the .22. They just look scary to some people. I think mine are beautiful! 😉

        • Simplynotred

          Having an M16, or AR15 is common for all Home Owner in Switzerland. A Peaceful Country that does not have any Terrorist.

          Why shouldn’t we have the same in America. Because you don’t feel good about America being a Peaceful Country? Hmmmmmmmmm?

        • Thomas The Paine

          An AR-15 is a “regular” gun: In fact, it was sold to mostly to civilians for 7 years before if was adopted by the armed forces in 1966.

      • LLCURRAN

        go for it, if the leftest idiots try to take my guns there will be a battle and dead people

        • Karen Bonner

          You tough guys are hilarious. Take away your guns and what are you left with? A vagina.

          • Joe Miester

            Actually we’d be a CHOONT like you, Karen!

          • Jimmy Seaborn

            We’re not tough, just well armed. Good luck. 911 is only 3 digits and 20 minutes away if you’re lucky

          • VikVega!!!

            May you never need a gun to protect you and your family, but times are a changin’ and it’s better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it. I hope your kids talk some sense not you.

          • Hans Gunn

            No Karen. You’re “left” with the vagina.

          • Isabel Papagno

            …and the one with the pussy hay most likely.

          • Jeffries Graeme

            well said Karen

          • jea2comments

            Troll…

          • WhatThe@#$%!

            Too bad you have neither ya skag. At least not a frontal vagina.

          • Gwen DeLamar

            I would rather one of those tough guys with me, than just another vagina.

          • jumper

            Wow Karen how’s yours these days ?, worn out I assume.

          • Drew Walker

            see nobody is going to freely give up their guns we the people have already taken the country from the British with only 3% of americans fighting think about that. Now that 3% is about 58% not good odds for the bs government to try to grab shit

          • Walter Reed

            Karen, did your mom have any other kids that lived?

          • jea2comments

            Shut-up LEFTard!

        • Jeffries Graeme

          The immaturity of your post needs to be noted .Fools like you shouldn’t have a gun,you need a dummy and milk bottle..

          • jea2comments

            Pleeeeeeeeze just shut-up!

        • Joe Ayers

          The world trembles at your toughness.

          • jea2comments

            Do us all a favor and – Go back to Huff-Po with your own kind…

        • J.C Smith

          Thanks for adding to the rabble(google that, seriously), and for giving those, “leftist idiots”(really?) more fuel for the fire. Those who do more than talk shit on the internet really appreciate it.

      • Shauna Wadley Waeltermann

        I disagree. I am also a rape survivor, and a Democrat, and a gun owner. Democrats aren’t trying to keep you from being able to protect yourself in your own home. That’s only hype. They don’t want to take your handgun, or your hunting guns away from you. What they want are background checks on people who purchase guns. I have a son who is mentally handicapped. He has the right to own a weapon. That is crazy. He suffers from schizoaffective disorder, and sometimes the reality he lives in, isn’t the reality the rest of us live in. There is no way he should be able to have a gun. But, people are so quick to say that everybody in this country has a right. That’s the problem. They do. I also disagree with your opinion that countries with strict gun laws have a higher murder rate. My sister and brother live in Canada. They have a very low murder rate. My son lives in Germany with some of the strictest gun laws in the world. Their murder rate is very low. I am originally from St. Louis. I can guarantee that they will have more than ten times the murders of any big city in Europe or Canada. While we count murders in the hundreds, cities like London usually have murder rates in single digits for a year.

        • Louise Mitchell

          They already have background checks where have you been and you have to wait three days to pick it up. No this is all about taking the guns away just like Hitler did for control and the healthkill bill does the same thing.

          • Shauna Wadley Waeltermann

            There are no background checks at gun shows. And Las Vegas has a gun show every single weekend. Only a licensed gun broker has to do a background check. If the FBI can’t complete the background check in 3 days, the gun store completes the transaction by default. Only 5 states have waiting periods. Mine doesn’t. I walked into a store, and walked out with a gun. My husband is a disabled veteran. He has 100% disability for PTSD. He obtained his CCW last month, with no questions asked. Where have you been?

          • Jay Mahoney

            Get your damn facts rights. ALL guns shops, selling at gun shows, MUST do background checks, PER LAW. If they didn’t, do you think the city and county would actually let them have these shows??? Do some fucking research and get the facts before spewing the trash coming out of you mouth.

          • kaycey351

            Individuals at gun shows can bring firearms and sell to other individuals WITHOUT a background check. One person can buy a gun at a gun show through a dealer who performs a background check and turn around and sell that same gun to someone else without obtaining an information on the buyer. Sales between individuals are not regulated.

          • sonofizzy

            kaycey351: Out of curiosity, of what State or States are you speaking when you say that “[s]ales between individuals are not regulated”. In Maryland, for example, you can bet your bottom dollar that sales of handguns between individuals are regulated. And most AR-15s cannot not be transferred except by a duly licensed dealer to a such a dealer out-of-State.

          • Joe Smith

            Ohio is one where you can still be free enough to make a private sale….for now.

          • Joe Smith

            Nor should they be regulated.

          • A Banned Profile

            That is simply not true. Not true at all.

          • Simplynotred

            Thats a bunch of BS, the very Gun Shooter is reported to have been checked out for his purchased of guns by the FBI and was NOT cleared in the short time that you mentioned, because it just doesn’t happen.

            Buying and Selling Guns Generally

            BALLOT QUESTION 1/UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK IMPLEMENTATION STOPPED INDEFINITELY PER ATTORNEY GENERAL’S OPINION-PRIVATE GUN SALES OKAY

            How Dealer Gun Sales Work

            Once a person has selected the firearm they wish to purchase, the person will be given a Form 4473 to fill out. This form must be filled out exactly. Typos on this form account for the number one ‘violation’ of licensed dealers. A copy will be made of your Nevada ID and your concealed firearm permit (CCW) if you have one. If you have a valid permit, you are exempt from having a background check done, because if you were a prohibited person, your permit would have been confiscated by the sheriff.

            The dealer then calls the Nevada Point-of-Contact (POC) managed by the Dept. of Public Safety. This is an in-state background check, with access to more local records, than the FBI NICS system. Both ultimately draw from the same pool of data maintained by the Dept. of Justice. The POC staffer will tell the dealer to proceed with the sale, to deny the sale (the buyer is a prohibited person), or that there is a delay.

            Denial: The buyer is not permitted to own or purchase firearms–a prohibited person (see above). It is illegal for them to attempt to purchase a firearm.

            Delay: This entails an up to three (3) day wait. The FBI expects most denials to be resolved within one (1) day usually. If a person has a clean record, a delay may be due to prohibited person having a similar name and the NICS examiner needs to conduct a more thorough search. A delay is not necessarily a disqualification. If a delay is not resolved in three (3) days, the firearm may be sold to the buyer.

            Appeals in the case of denial/delay can be made.

            Valid concealed firearm permits issue in Nevada on or after June, 1, 2011 are considered by the ATF to be permanent alternatives to the instant background check. (Note that the initiative would not permit this as an exemption for the private sales background check requirement).

            Who cannot own a gun?

            Federal Prohibited Persons

            A person who has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year or any state offense classified by the state as a misdemeanor and is punishable by a term of imprisonment of more than two years.

            Persons who are fugitives of justice

            An unlawful user and/or an addict of any controlled substance

            A person adjudicated mental defective or involuntarily committed to a mental institution or incompetent to handle own affairs

            A person who, being an alien, is illegally or unlawfully in the United States.

            A person who, being an alien except as provided in subsection (y) (2), has been admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa.

            A person dishonorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces.

            A person who has renounced his/her United States citizenship.

            The subject of a protective order issued after a hearing in which the respondent had notice that restrains them from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such partner.

            A person convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime which includes the use or attempted use of physical force or threatened use of a deadly weapon and the defendant was the spouse, former spouse, parent, guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited in the past with the victim as a spouse, parent, guardian or similar situation to a spouse, parent or guardian of the victim.

            A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.

            Additionally, Nevada law prohibits sales to minors, and sales to felons, fugitives, mentally ill, illegal aliens, and those who have been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence. Existing state law also gives one the means to conduct their own background check for private sales. But some feel that we need more laws, as they incorrectly assume criminals will obey the law.

            Current federal law prohibits:

            Unlicensed ‘street dealers’

            Selling or transferring firearms or ammunition to someone while “knowing” or having “reasonable cause to believe” the buyer is a prohibited person.

            Fraudulently buying a firearm on behalf of another; ‘straw purchase’ (not a gift).

          • pappadave

            BS, Shauna. Background checks happen all the time at gun shows. Now if you accost a guy carrying a firearm at one (or at your own home or on a street corner) you can, quite legally, buy that gun from him without having a background check run on EITHER of you. It’s called LIBERTY.

          • Joe Smith

            You are completely wrong and I see you get your information from the liberal media, the laws in a gunshow are EXACTLY THE SAME as outside of a gun show. Does it even make sense to you that having a show would somehow make the law void in a building? If a private sale of a gun is legal in a show then that same sale is legal OUTSIDE a gun show. So sick of the gunshow “loophole” people that do not know what they were talking about.

          • Steve

            First of all, you walked out of a store AFTER having an NICS check done, don’t pretend you didn’t. Second, VERY few gun shops actually will go through with a sale after the 3 day mark for fear of future lawsuit by a potential victim. Been like that for years . Many gun shops can’t get insurance if they agree to do sales without getting the OK makes no difference that it’s something that the BATFE allows., Having PTSD can simply mean you were rattled from war and it in NO WAY is the same as “mentally defective” which is the status that must be given to deny somebody their second amendment rights. He also didn’t get his CCW with “no questions asked”. I’m pretty sure (meaning 100% sure) that application had a few questions on it and him swearing under the penalty of felony perjury that he’s allowed to have guns as well as the fact he was run through the FBI prior to him getting that CCW. So please end your uninformed nonsense.

          • Terry Seeker

            Liar! If your husband is mentally ill then report him to the police about his actions and his gun will be confiscated. Worries, make believe, or false accusations don’t count. You get a permit for a handgun from your sheriff 1st before a purchase, else you still own that gun and are an accomplice in any criminal act commited with it.

          • Angharad Keltik

            Why are you lying?

          • Greg Rauscher

            I am a Canadian who has lived in California, Washington and Alaska. I can verify that our gun laws are stricter and we have to have a PAL which is a purchase and acquisition license. Our handguns are restricted and you need a restricted PAL to own and even then you can only go from home to gun range and back by the shortest route. I hunt and have multiple firearms and we have strict rules on how they are stored and handled. BUT….we do have gun violence perpetrated by criminals who do NOT follow the law on firearms….same as the USA….criminals do NOT follow laws. The USA citizen can protect their property and life by using a firearm. In Canada if we use a firearm to protect yourself in your home you can and will be charged. You will be in court, lose your firearms and can in some case be charged with murder. SO…..what I am saying is…keep your gun rights….fight for them and never give them up!!!

          • Steve

            Greg, i’m a Canadian too, and i can say quite honestly that most people(households) i know have at least one firearm, usually a hunting rifle or shotgun. Not all these guns are registered, in fact a majority i’d say refuse to register them because they don’t trust the government in Ottawa.

          • Greg Rauscher

            Steve….the gun registry was an excuse to track firearms AFTER the point of sale. The firearms require a PAL to purchase and they are entered into the gun shops ledger so yeah the government does have a record of the 1st pt of sale. It was the private sale/trades that the government wanted using the registry. The actual approximate number of households having firearms is about 26% so you must live in a very small rural community (like I do) and in the country most people will either hunt large game/small game or birds. I agree that most of the people owning firearms do NOT trust Ottawa!!

          • Truthhurts

            You got that one right.

          • sonofizzy

            Greg, I just read about a nasty case where a homeowner was charged when he defended himself against a home invasion. I also read that a lady wearing a burka can easily become exempt from the photograph requirement of the PAL. Sorry that you have to live under draconian gun laws and prosecution of the innocent.

          • Greg Rauscher

            Yep….we can have them to hunt or use for targets but heaven forbid we use them to protect our lives!!! But better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6!!

          • Joe Smith

            Dang Greg, nobody can call you a hoser…lol

          • J.C Smith

            Thank you for your insight.

            .

          • A Banned Profile

            No, there are many states with no background checks, there are no background checks on the internet, there are no background checks on private sales and there are no laws prohibiting felons or schizophrenics from owning guns. There are also no penalties for owners who leave weapons unsecured where they can be stolen by children, felons or psychotics, such as Adam Lanza, who stole his mother’s weapons. Yes, Universal Background checks are what we have been asking for. I pass a background check whenever I buy a gun and I think you should too. So, do try to know what you are talking about before you get all that verbal diarrhea going.

          • Taz

            There are no states without background checks. The checksa re mandated by “FEDERAL” law and done through the BATFE. If you buy a gun over the internet it must be transferred through a licensed FFL holder and a background check must be accomplished. There are also laws against felons owning guns. Diagnosed schizophrenics are also prohibited from owning guns. Most states have laws against leaving guns unsecured. You need to stop regurgitating what you read in the MSM and do a little independent research. I also highly doubt that yoiu have ever purchased any gun in your entire life.

            So take your own advice. So, do try to know what you are talking about before you get all that verbal diarrhea going.

        • sonofizzy

          Hillary Clinton made it clear that she admired the mandatory gun buy-back in Australia; and there was a very interesting covert video at a bar with a Democratic former delegate who admitted that the goal was confiscation but that couldn’t be publicly voiced while steps towards that were being taken using the propaganda term “common sense gun laws” If your son truly suffers from the condition of which you speak, then he is not legally able to purchase a firearm. Moreover, one cannot look at “murder” rates as the sole operative factor, and must consider the gang killings and suicides which are typically lumped in as part thereof. After forced confiscation in Australia, home invasions and brutal assaults went up drastically, and are high in England as well. There are also increasing terrorist attacks in England where people have no right to firearms to defend themselves, and cannot defend their young teenage daughters from Muslim rape gangs. For that matter, adult women cannot either (look up taharrush). And let’s look at Chicago, shall we? Strict gun laws have worked so well there. And you would condemn us to this hell?

          • FlCracker2

            My Aussie relatives are the first to say, don’t let this happen to you.

          • Dazza

            BS

          • FlCracker2

            They are not happy to be unprotected. I doubt they give a rats ass what you think but I will ask them.

          • jea2comments

            You know nothing troll….

          • Shauna Wadley Waeltermann

            They’ve done gun buy backs in St. Louis, too. You can turn your gun in for 50 bucks. That’s up to the individual. There are so many guns on the streets, that it doesn’t make much difference. My son can buy a gun at a gun show. They don’t do background checks. He can also legally buy it from any individual. We gave a gun to our neighbor. We certainly didn’t do a background check on him. And, that’s how easy it is to get a weapon. The man who wrote a Purpose Driven Life had a mentally ill child. They did everything they could to keep him from having a weapon. But, he bought it over the internet in two different pieces. He killed himself with it. It is quite easy for a mentally ill person to obtain a gun. Sad, but true.

          • chesterarthur

            Once again,tell the truth.They do background checks at gun shows.Guns bought on the internet are required to go to a gun dealer who does,guess what,a background check.Odd that facts don’t seem to matter when you have an agenda to push.

          • A Banned Profile

            They do not do background checks at gun shows, at least in some states. In Arizona and Florida I can attest that guns are even sold at yard sales. There are no background checks for private sales arranged on the internet, say on Craigslist or Facebook. There is no excuse for not having Universal Background Checks. There are no laws saying we won’t sell guns to psychos. No excuse why you need an AK47 to ‘protect yourself’. If your ass is that hard to protect, it isn’t worth it. My little ass can be protected just fine with a single shot 22. The shooter in Las Vegas could not have inflicted that much damage with a handgun.

          • Taz

            Again. There are no states without background checks. The checksa re mandated by “FEDERAL” law and done through the BATFE. If you buy a gun over the internet it must be transferred through a licensed FFL holder and a background check must be accomplished. There are also laws against felons owning guns. Diagnosed schizophrenics are also prohibited from owning guns. Most states have laws against leaving guns unsecured. You need to stop regurgitating what you read in the MSM and do a little independent research. I also highly doubt that you have ever purchased any gun in your entire life.

          • Steve

            If you sold or gave a gun to somebody that you had knowledge was unable to legally posses it than YOU committed a serious felony! As LEGAL gun owners we are trusted to do the right thing and NOT do that. So I’m not sure what you think your point is? We, the legal gun owners shouldn’t be trusted with that responsibility?

          • Mike

            50 bucks? That’s not what you bought it for I’m sure. Gov. theft by law. See, guns are not the only constitutional issue involved.

          • Dazza

            Absolute rubbish about Australia, stop reading bogus articles that pander to crackpots like, well like you, instead look up ‘annual Australian crime stats report’ or other authentically produced papers that give truth stats !!
            If you do you will find that Australia despite its ever increasing population, it should be noted that the Australia-wide percentage of homicides committed with firearms is now lower than it was before the gun buy-back program over 20 yrs ago !!!

          • FlCracker2

            But the stabbings and baseball bat murders have risen.

          • A Banned Profile

            Do you think this shooter in Las Vegas could have killed 60 people and injured 600 with a baseball bat? Really? Logic much?

          • FlCracker2

            Do you have ADHD? You were talking about Australia. By the way if you shot him then he couldnt have used his bat. LOL

          • Dazza

            True one at a time, NOT 58 at a time, see the difference !!!

          • FlCracker2

            Thats what the car bombs are for.

          • Dazza

            Yep we hear about those in the news each week…… actually Not, what we do hear about almost weekly is another mass shooting in the good’ol USofA

          • FlCracker2

            Yes, in the cities with the most stringent gun laws. Seems to work well.

          • sonofizzy

            Dazza: Try again. There was a definite spike, and then a decrease as has been seen for most civilized nations, except that the last article I read was that assault was up about 19%. Like all statistics, it depends on who is formulating the categories and setting the terms of the matrix or chart. It is pathetic how those who try to appear objective are actually very biased against guns and gun ownership. There is also the issue of whose ox is getting gored. I would rather have lower assault figures where home invasions result in injuries to homeowners and their families from blunt object trauma or knives from perpetrators, and leave more perpetrators dead from firearms in the hands of their intended victims. England is even worse than Australia. Perhaps you should live there and have some Muslim terrorists or other criminals slash you with a knife, prostitute your teenage daughter, throw acid upon you, rape your wife, or attempt to run you down. You might change you tune on firearms a bit. By the way, there is a big black market in Australian firearms. I wonder why?

          • Dazza

            There is a black market for guns in Australia, which makes them hard to get and expensive to buy, which means only true criminals with high expectations of the rewards of their efforts have unlicensed guns. What that means is your street pick pocket isn’t carrying, your would-be car thief doesn’t have an 8mm in his jacket and your crazy that has a grudge against everyone isn’t hoarding a load of assault rifles under his bed!
            Your comments about Muslin terrorists really lower your argument, an American is more likely to have his neighbour burst into his house guns blazing because your dog shit on his lawn again than be attacked by a Muslin terrorist you really need to get real on that fact !!!
            The point is restrict gun ownership, ban the assault weapons, your own experience of the assault weapon ban between 94-04 showed 1/2 the amount of deaths and then a massive spike when the ban was lifted, surely you don’t have such little regard for life?

          • jea2comments

            Liar! So I guess that’s why home invasions went up shortly after Australia was disarmed. Go peddle your lies somewhere else!

          • A Banned Profile

            You still have a hard on for Hillary? She’s gone home, move on. FFS.

          • sonofizzy

            Get a clue. I was responding to Shauna Wadley Waelermann’s statements in an earlier post that “Democrats aren’t trying to keep you from being able to protect yourself in your own home. That’s only hype. They don’t want to take your handgun, or your hunting guns away from you.”

        • Cindy Cable

          I totally believe in everyone having guns!!! They do anyway,us women need to protect ourselves and our children!!! There is not men around all the time!! Look at the news The Bobo case,The missing girl in Florida,it’s always women so yes we need to protect us,our children and not be scared!!! The world now is like a bad board game that has no winners!!! I will not get shot,or my children from some crazy person that has no care about human lives!!!! There is more out there now than I have ever seen!!!!!

        • Addie

          It’s a slippery slope. They start but taking some guns. Then more guns. Then all guns. Historically what has happened when government takes citizens firearms? That’s right, mass killings.

          • Dazza

            Historically?? Where exactly are you talking about, because in Australia it most definitely did not.

          • Simplynotred

            SAY WHAT?????

            In a tacit admission that criminals and scofflaws have had little trouble circumventing Australia’s National Firearms Agreement (NFA) and the government’s confiscation effort, Australian officials have set a date for another firearms amnesty program. The program is set to begin in July and last for three months. Despite offering no compensation for surrendered firearms, government officials hope that the plan will net 260,000 of an estimated 600,000 illegally possessed guns.

            In 1996, following a high-profile shooting in Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia’s states and territories adopted the federal NFA. The agreement set up stringent licensing requirements to possess firearms, requiring license applicants provide a “genuine reason” for owning a firearm; the agreement made clear that personal protection was not a genuine reason. The measure also targeted several types of commonly-owned firearms, and included a near total ban on civilian ownership of semi-automatic rifles and semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns.

            To coincide with the new restrictions, the government provided a firearms amnesty and compensation program. Through a massive public education campaign, gun owners were warned that they were required to turn their newly-prohibited firearms over to the government for a set price. Incorrectly called a “buy-back” by some U.S. politicians, as the NFA did not grandfather the possession of firearms owned prior to the new restrictions, the ban and amnesty amounted to gun confiscation.

            In a tacit admission that criminals and scofflaws have had little trouble circumventing Australia’s National Firearms Agreement (NFA) and the government’s confiscation effort, Australian officials have set a date for another firearms amnesty program. The program is set to begin in July and last for three months. Despite offering no compensation for surrendered firearms, government officials hope that the plan will net 260,000 of an estimated 600,000 illegally possessed guns.

            In 1996, following a high-profile shooting in Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia’s states and territories adopted the federal NFA. The agreement set up stringent licensing requirements to possess firearms, requiring license applicants provide a “genuine reason” for owning a firearm; the agreement made clear that personal protection was not a genuine reason. The measure also targeted several types of commonly-owned firearms, and included a near total ban on civilian ownership of semi-automatic rifles and semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns.

            To coincide with the new restrictions, the government provided a firearms amnesty and compensation program. Through a massive public education campaign, gun owners were warned that they were required to turn their newly-prohibited firearms over to the government for a set price. Incorrectly called a “buy-back” by some U.S. politicians, as the NFA did not grandfather the possession of firearms owned prior to the new restrictions, the ban and amnesty amounted to gun confiscation.

          • Dazza

            Well ??? Where are the ‘historical mass killings’, you’ve cut and pasted nothing about those ‘historical mass killings’, what a bunch of BS !!

          • Joe Smith

            Germany, Russia, Cambodia etc all used gun control to disarm the people and then killed millions, don’t expect other to do your homework for you.

          • Addie

            I posted earlier. You must not have seen. https://i.imgur.com/YaSnCFW.png

          • jea2comments

            Try looking up the statistics for yourself…sheeeesh!

          • Mike

            Gun confiscation of non-criminals without remuneration is theft of property. Gov. can do that by law (which means, ultimately, at the point of a gun). Some people don’t want to steal your property personally, so, they get the government to do it by law.

          • Addie
          • Simplynotred

            NO
            POSSIBLE
            NO

          • Joe Ayers

            They have been going on in England for years. Dumb fuck.

          • jea2comments

            You need a bar of soap for your filthy mouth!

          • Joe Ayers

            They have been going on in Austrailia for years. stupid cunt.

        • Joe

          someone is lying to you and got you brainwashed good…..lol. stfu

          • Simplynotred

            ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – St. Louis city’s gun buy-back program is underway, and it’s being paid for by online crowdsource funding.
            Really WHOSE LYING? Maybe you are?

            St. Louis is the only midwestern city to use this method.

            Missouri statute prohibits gun buy-back programs, so the St. Louis Board of Aldermen passed a resolution authorizing it.

            Board President Lewis Reed says the city is working with the police department to disable the guns, which will be given to the group Guns in the Hands of Artists.

            The group turns weapons into thought-provoking sculptures.

            St. Louis teamed up with the group GunByGun to allow the crowdsource funding.

            To donate go to gunxgun.org/stlouis.

            (TM and © Copyright 2015 CBS Radio Inc. and its relevant subsidiaries. CBS RADIO and EYE Logo TM and Copyright 2015 CBS Broadcasting Inc. Used under license. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)

        • Trish Heaslet

          The shooter had background checks. Showed nothing. Next?

          • FlCracker2

            Do you know what his motive was? Was he a lone wolf? Has the investigation been completed? Next?

          • Mike

            I’m a lone wolf (but not an unfriendly one). Should I be denied a firearm? I have passed background checks to own one. Whether I do or not is not for you to know.

          • FlCracker2

            That was actually sarcasm on my part.

          • A Banned Profile

            This shooter did pass a background check? So the next shooter shouldn’t? We’ll just skip it from now on because it didn’t work this time? Did you ever have a pen that didn’t work? Did you give up writing?

          • afftongrown

            Yeah, all those thugs with guns passed muster before they got their guns! Why won’t you people ever understand the people using guns illegally will continue to do so with or without the gun laws you so desperately want put into place!

        • Joe Smith

          The shooter would have passed a background check and once you have to get permission to exercise a right it is no longer a right.

        • Cuda

          Shauna London is at 723 murders for the year which is a pace expected to surpass and stay ahead of Chicago’s 700….care to post your figures and sources?
          mine UK https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/official-figures-show-biggest-rise-crime-in-a-decade
          Chicago http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/data/ct-homicide-spikes-comparison-htmlstory.html

        • Simplynotred

          No its not hype, I was a Democrat years ago, until I began to realized that their own reason for political power is to effect changes in the USA that mirror ideas that Karl Marx developed with his Economic means of advancing Marxism. Democrats since Roosevelt have slowly but surely eroded the Freedoms that we have in this country. Gun Control, along with Confiscation of Guns, Gold, Property and Freedom of Speech are the main Attributes of Marxism. However they never do any good for human beings.

          • A Banned Profile

            At least they aren’t fascists and plutocrats like the Republicans. Clearly we need to do away with the party system altogether, so they will all have to stop hiding behind these meaningless labels.

          • jea2comments

            You are a clueless democrat!

        • Paul

          You are wrong they have backup checks! And they have laws that mental problems and can not own a gun!

          • A Banned Profile

            No, they don’t. And that’s the problem.

        • Craig Hill

          So if the intruder has a more fire power than me or there are more than one, then I am Fuc%ed! Thanks Dems!

          • A Banned Profile

            ‘More’ firepower? Where are you living, in the trenches in a war zone?

        • Rusty Tennant

          Yea that’s right. Only take the guns away from crazy people. Steps 2, declare all Trump voters to be crazy.

          • Kristie Burge

            that is a dumb comment. so you feel all Trump supporters are crazy???? then what would you call Obama and Hillary supporters??? I’m curious I would love to know.

          • Steve

            They like to pretend that Trump didn’t get in thanks to all the help from the votes on the left!

          • A Banned Profile

            If the shoe fits. BTW, how’s that treason working for you?

        • Steve

          If your kid is a diagnosed schizo than he should already be in the database. If he’s not and your worried about it tell his doctor to report it and he’ll never legally own a gun. That simple.

          • A Banned Profile

            There are no laws against selling guns to schizophrenics. Capice?

          • Steve

            The law prohibits the mentally defective from having guns, have you diagnosed her son to see if he meets the legal definition? The majority of schizophrenic people suffer from delusions and hallucinations along with the cognitive issues that are part of the disease. VERY few schizophrenics would NOT be labeled mentally defective, as they shouldn’t. Also, it’s Capiche!

          • Joe Ayers

            Does that make a shit stain like you happy?

        • Roberta

          Speak for yourself. Demos are trying to take our guns. Hillary had a plan to take them. This was discovered when someone questioned one of her lackeys with a hidden camera and this lackey laughingly admitted the plan.

        • someguy

          Shauna, better rethink that platform. they will come for your gun because of your live’n child with a mental disorder. this is not the EU, Germany or Canada. I bet you do not even know what your party does. they say it is the anti big bank party, read the financial reform law. read about Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. The democrat passed law sent so much money to the big banks it is unreal. the wool has been pulled over your eyes. good example, the Anti-Gun California Democrat senator, who was arrest and convicted of attempting to move guns, mil grade small arms (machine guns) and rocket launcher, say again, rocket launchers to San Fran Bay area Asian Gangs…your best interest. think real hard on that.

        • BeachSand

          Shauna you’re deluding yourself. They absolutely do want to de-arm America. Look at history when that happens and the resulting outcome. We have the 2nd Amendment in place to protect us from a tyrannical government. This government wants to enslave Americans in taxes and has a tyrannical global un-American agenda in the Democratic party. They need to disarm, and control citizens with sovereign citizenship and convert them to subjects for that to happen. You stated your a Democrat, I think you need to take a hard realistic look at your political party. The political party that just created mass murder… The DNC nurtures an ignorant voting base that will create voting fraud and murder to achieve it’s anti freedom goals. The DNC seeks to keep the rich elite in power and privilege. It does not care about your freedoms, or constitutional rights. The 2nd Amendment is to keep your government from raping you.

        • Drew Walker

          you are a democrat with that comment for sure. the murder rates are higher in gun free zones look at chicago. now look at england and australia they have skyrocketed in murders but with knives and clubs so the problem isn’t guns its fucking crazy people, even without a gun they will kill

          • jea2comments

            Exactly!

        • jea2comments

          I guess you haven’t really studied the statistics then, have you? Have you noticed Chicago’s track record and murder rates? How about Australia and other countries who have been disarmed; have you looked up their statistics? Those in London are surrounded by Muslims and have to worry more about getting stabbed or run over when there’s a big event. So what’s the solution to that problem? Will banning knives and box trucks and vehicles be next? Apparently Europe has a problem and it’s called a Muslim invasion. These vermin will always have ways of obtaining weapons but the average European citizen won’t. Laws are worthless as the criminals and vermin will never obey them.

      • Mikey’s

        Amen.

      • Godbless

        I appreciated your comments and believe the same way. Taking away guns from good people is not going to stop the crimes. The individuals who desire gun control are only making it progressively worse on themselves but won’t wake up until it’s to late. People’s hearts are being hardened and their eyes are being blinded. Pray for discernment and truth and always be vigilent.

        • Simplynotred

          Taking away guns is the equivalent of taking away a police office for a community. If you are without a means of securing your life, then chances are you will not live to find out.

          • A Banned Profile

            Yowza the thing you people all have in common is your great fearfulness. Why are you all such cowards? No fear, FFS. It must be a bitch to just drive down the highway with you cowards.

          • J.C Smith

            Does that ever actually work on anyone?

          • Drew Walker

            have you served in the military? I am guessing not a lot of us have so to call us cowards you are a fool. we fought so you could sit there and flap your gums how about you just sit in your perspective corner

          • jea2comments

            LEFTard troll…

          • jea2comments

            Spoken like a true libtard!

        • Terry Melvin

          Guess what…all, and I mean all of the major massacres (Columbine, San Bernadino, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook and Las Vegas to name some of them) occurred in gun-free zones, meaning that anyone who could’ve fired back at these active shooters were far away. Active shooters don’t want to encounter anyone who might return fire.

          • Kevin Lehmkuhl

            it’s even worse than that terry. i believe these events are total hollywood theater. there is a common thread with these events(batman shooter, newtown, 9-11) where they “already figured out whodunnit” people with half a brain know that these are made up stories. as far as the victims are concerned there must be more proof to convince someone such as myself if these mass shootings are legit.

          • Terry Melvin

            There seems to be a template or some choreography every time one of these events happens. There seems to be a ready-made explanation that gets trotted out. As far as Lad Vegas, I find it very hard to believe Paddock acted alone. He had help..terrorist help, and the media, for their own nefarious purposes, doesn’t want the people to know.

      • John R Scarbel

        Agreed, all the gun laws did not stop this shooting or will they stop any evil person wishing to do harm to others. Criminals do NOT Follow Laws but Liberals can’t understand that so they wish to disarm law abiding citizens. People will not give up their guns, Freedom comes at a price. It is said that Antifa want a Civil War. They shall get what they wish if they pursue this evil path.

        • pappadave

          True. We have over 20,000 gun control law on the books today, including State and Local laws. Not a single ONE of them has prevented some moron from getting a gun and using it to kill someone else or himself.

          • A Banned Profile

            All laws are broken. So, then, we don’t need any laws, you think?

          • Mike

            That’s an interesting thought. So we get rid of all law. Then no one can be judged by their actions. We get rid of all judges since they have nothing to judge according to (as well as all lawyers). Nothing anyone does is against a law. But someone will say,”We have morals”. What is a moral? Is it not a law, which if you break it, your conscience condemns you for. This requires judgment even if it’s personal. But if two conflict, and each has his own law, then who will judge between them and by what standard would that intermediary judge? Then you have come to the point of war. Unless men are angels, and even they, God does not trust.

          • einekleinestimme

            “we don’t need any laws, you think?” REALLY
            Do we remember the definition of the word CHAOS ?

            Chaos is what would happen with ZERO LAWS – the mindless madness of those who are
            completely and totally unrestrained ! That would mean that there would be No Place of Safety

            No one with a wife or children would even hint – let alone – advocate for CHAOS.
            THE LEFT WANT CHAOS- SO THEY CAN SET UP A DICTATORSHIP & HAVE TOTAL POWER

            And let us be clear on Who Are The LEFT.
            The Left – means:
            the Democrat leadership (and every Democrat party voter who actually believes
            what the Democrat Party is pushing and seeking)
            the progressives (which are those seeking the Left but try to use a political correct word
            to hide the fact that they hate our Constitutional Republic and want a king)
            and all who pretend to be Republicans but vote for the ugliness of the Left (i.e. traitors)

            There was a Revolutionary WAR against a King- THAT IS WHY WE HAVE OUR FREEDOM

            CHAOS will only fill the streets with the dead and dying. Only fools or murderers want CHAOS!

            There is a better way. And that Way is The Republic as it was originally founded !!
            EVERY PERSON ON THE LEFT HAS WORKED TO DESTROY THAT VERY FOUNDATION
            And This nation is the Best Nation on the face of the Earth because of that very Foundation

            SO before we devolve into blood-thirsty Troglodytes – Let us use our minds as designed
            FIGHT FOR FREEDOM BY LAW– Laws can establish Freedom only if they are obeyed

            Yes criminals and every single person on “the left” hate laws. And They hate punishment.
            That is why they seek to Destroy our Constitution and our Republic.

            SO let us speak of these things based on TRUTH

        • Mark Young

          Yea, I heard another argument today by a Liberal is that American citizen’s don’t need such powerful weapons to hunt with! They can’t seam to get it that the 2nd Amen dose not have anything to do with hunting! And I love how some of these News channel host and there guest talk about guns, and you can tell as soon as they open there mouth you can tell they have no idea what they are talking about! I heard one on CNN say that the ammo for an AR-15 will “Explode” on impact killing not just the person being shot, but the people within a few feet around that person being shot also! It’s almost funny if it wasn’t for the fact that people believe that crap!

        • Terry Melvin

          Liberals aren’t really just after guns, that’s just one of their stepping stones. Their purposes are far more nefarious, which is the eventual complete subjugation of the people. It’s hard to control a well-armed populace.

          • jea2comments

            You hit the nail on the head. The key word here is Control…that’s what they want. They want total control with no resistance. The only way that can happen is if the U.S. is disarmed. God forbid! The only thing stopping the LEFTards is a well-armed populace. They know it and we know it! Statistics around the world have shown that for every country that has been disarmed- they have not fared well, many have suffered violence and/or have been killed because they couldn’t protect themselves. Crime always goes up NOT down! Just take a look at Chicago for example. They have some of the strictest gun laws and have one of the highest records of fatalities! Shortly after Australia was disarmed home invasions rose dramatically. Creating more gun-control laws is NOT going to help, as the criminals have no problem breaking the laws. They are just like the Criminal LEFTards.

          • Terry Melvin

            Just don’t tell a liberal what you told me. Facts and history mean nothing to them. They will gladly give BLM and Antifa credence, however. Those are the two most dangerous terrorist organizations in the U.S, formed by the Left to further their false narratives, and liberals plus the sympathetic major media are supporting them.

          • jea2comments

            I consider the Left-wing media to be the Number 1 enemy of this country, as the radical LEFT use them and control the narrative. IF it were not for the MSM lies and the spreading of disinformation and propaganda, groups like BLM and Antifa would receive no news media coverage and have no platform in which to operate.

      • Karen Bonner

        Oh my god Beth, what a crock of horse shit. Guns allow the big bad evil men to rape, torture and kill and you owning a gun will do nothing to prevent that. Its your guns that hurt and kill my friends and family. Every gun owner is a “responsible” gun owner until the day they snap and decided to open fire on a crowd of people, remember that.

        • Joe Miester

          Dear God what a freaking MOON BAT you are. I have guns and I HAVE NOT hurt anybody with them … until someone tries to hurt me and my family. You don’t want guns around you? Move to Europe and get the f out!!

      • chrisgriswold

        Beth, how did the gun help you with the man kicking in your door?

      • pappadave

        When did we reach the state where a woman lying raped and murdered in an alley is somehow more “moral” than another woman standing in that same alley, explaining to the police how that rapist got a bullet hole in his chest?

      • Proud American

        You wrote a great piece Beth, I applaud your intelligence insight and candor, I wish the brain dead anti-gun liberals could see the reality of the world we live in today, the snowflakes live in fantasy land until something bad happens to them

      • A Banned Profile

        So you whipped out the AK47? I don’t think so. I think you whipped out a hand piece. If the shooter in Las Vegas had been shooting a pistol instead of a semi automatic, would he have caused nearly so much harm? Certainly not. And more children are accidentally killed in homes having guns than have ever been saved by them. Also, you need to be more innovative in your self defense response, for anything at hand is a weapon if you are fighting for your life, you may not always have a loaded gun close to hand, even if you own guns. But okay, so, if you want to have a gun to protect your home, that’s one thing, but you aren’t sleeping with a loaded AK47 at your bedside. The thing is ugly, it’s heavy, it kicks, it stinks of oil, it takes up space, and can’t be secured away from the children if it’s at the bedside. You’d never use something like that at close range to protect your front door. So we don’t need semi-automatic weapons. And whenever I buy a gun, I pass a federal background check. Now, I want to know, why shouldn’t everyone be passing a federal background check when they buy a gun? Why do we allow guns to people who have criminal records? Why do we allow people who are batshit crazy, like, Gene or Joe here, to have guns? We don’t have to do that. The compromise is Universal Background Checks. Felons have no voting rights and they shouldn’t have any Second Amendment Rights either.

      • Judas Cradle

        I never considered owning a firearm, or having CCW – UNTIL an incident that changed my life. I don’t ever want to be in the position where my last thought before I die is “if I had only given myself a fighting chance.”

      • Rob36

        nonsense

      • Terri

        Thank you

      • Margaret

        Can you provide a reference to the source you cited from the Harvard liberal college, the one that stated countries with gun control have higher murder rates than America? Because here’s one that states the exact opposite: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/asap.12100/full

      • Pilfer Proof

        Well said. Read the book about Baltimore, Ireland. Kidnapping, rape and slavery and torture were frequent until the populace became armed.

      • Lynn Rose

        They aren’t advocating to take guns away – that’s the extreme argument said by those in favor of guns. They’re advocating to get some protective measures for balance – ie, no semi-automatic weapons to average citizens – that’s not needed to protect yourself – that’s needed for killing a mass amount of people at once. For goodness sake, lets stop talking in extremes and look at this with balance.

        And, to put this on George Souros is just lunacy. If anything it could have been far-right influences setting it up in order to accuse the left in order to get the far right up in arms! For goodness sake stop putting it on one side or another. And please stop thinking that ‘gun control’ means taking away your guns. Perhaps some want that but most just wish for more protective measures as to how guns are obtained and to what level. That period.

      • LizziMcD

        I agree with you completely. I love what you told us because we see this issue from a very personal experience. Its so true, good people don’t go around doing harm with their guns.

      • Dean O’Callaghan

        Err….
        “People in their ignorance do not even know that the countries with gun
        control have higher murder rates than America per multiple studies, most
        notably Harvard a liberal college, found these facts.”
        We have had NO multiple shooting events in Australia since 1996!
        https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/
        there’s even pictures of an american flag in the article so you can feel comfortable knowing they are speaking to YOUR PEOPLE.

      • Andy Castor

        “People in their ignorance do not even know that the countries with gun control have higher murder rates than America per multiple studies, most notably Harvard a liberal college, found these facts.”
        You are insane. Or stupid. Possibly both.

      • subsistent1

        good comment, but you got one thing wrong, a big thing wrong: evil. It won’t ever be ‘rid of’ ……its called yin and yang. You have to have good with bad, its just how it goes. But you hit the nail on the head…..our gov’t wants each of us to believe that we need them for protection, when its freedom they are taking and control they are gaining over each of us.

      • La

        What they are ‘advocating’ is getting guns out of the public’s’ hands so when this NWO hits we will have nothing to fight back with.

      • Deidre

        A couple of capable guns, not an entire arsenal. I have been in many situations where a gun came in handy, but I can only shoot one gun at a time!! The gun control is about limiting how many, not taking away the ability to purchase a couple to protect oneself. Guns have become mainstream because of fear. Perhaps if you had more faith in God, you would not be afraid. (And by the way, there is no reason to talk tough and ugly)

      • Deidre

        Your statement regarding countries with gun control vs. none is incorrect. The UK has strict gun laws and here are the stats:
        Per 1 million people, murders with firearms is 0.236 in the UK, but 32.57 in the USA, ranked 10th in the world.
        There are 78,753 prisoners in the UK compared to 2.02 million in the USA which is ranked 1st.

      • Rockandroll84101

        this story is to sound convincing for an argument that guns are needed or that the vegas shooting was staged in order to take away guns from americans who need them…..its only to give you something to go on about while the country and the world awaits the overlooking that the president himself has at his behest had his own people attacked! in that its the fact of the matter that he himself had them attacked will call on the Islamic front forces that lie between the u.s and Europe to give in to his demands to do it all on his signals to them. they await the call to come in, it will be at a time when there is no power on in any city.

    • https://twitter.com/KenSlackBledsoe Slackaveli

      it took all of one comment for Boogeymans name to appear. you watch too much Alex Jones, ya sheep

    • Danetta Kniceley Armm

      It only takes one bad apple to lump all the liberals and you’ve just spread some questionable statements. I am not a Dem. but I do know that things like this can cause some hurt. You have become part of the big problem.

    • stupid werdum face

      I would love to live in the utopian fantasy land you live in, where criminal conspiracies never take place.

    • Judy Ridgeway

      Doesn’t this hotel have security videos in all of the hallways?
      If so, they should be able to confirm all who entered AND EXITED this room.
      MSM & investigators are hiding something.

    • AUGUS

      I think on a lot of facts and believe the bloody hands of lefty and muhammadans can be seen in this evil terrorist action.

      https://www.facebook.com/augm.FB/posts/1588942811158931

    • redRightHand

      on 9/10 I wasnt into Conspiracy Theories.

      Things change.

      How can we deny the ‘hidden hand’ if we can feel it upon our shoulders.

    • Kim Russo

      I was thinking at least 2 people since there are 2 windows blown out! Will we ever know the truth? I sure hope so.

    • Aussie pub crawler

      Paddock had nuthin’ to do with it…that’s BS!
      if there were multiple shooters apropos a psy-op, then, TPTB wouldn’t risk using an old codger like Paddock with no mil’ experience….
      that is: if the whole thing wasn’t a hoax…

    • HerrinSchadenfreude

      That Conservative or Republican = patriot is a non sequitur. One thing has nothing to do with the other and it implies there weren’t Liberal or Democrap “patriots” there as well or worse, that there can’t be a Democrap or Liberal “patriot”. And what about real patriots who don’t allow goofy population controlling fake aisle-side affiliations to cloud their judgment and turn them against fellow Americans? Could they not have been there too? Let’s not confuse what the shooter or shooters motives may have been with what MSM wants to spin it into.

    • dahszil

      Many past conspiracy theories turned out to be CONSPIRACY FACTS !

    • Sharon ODonnell

      18 U.S. Code § 2385 – Advocating overthrow of Government. Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

    • MEL

      The ‘goal’ wasn’t necessarily about being Republican or Conservative (although that could very well have been the presumption) … but, the country music fest would have mostly “white” Americans. But, true any “white” person is at risk because when someone’s hate (and delusional thinking) runs that deep … White of course to them will equal Republican or Conservative or Wealthy or Christian … and at this particular location and venue they could add … military, first responders, perhaps gun advocates …. in other words definitely limited if any Anti-Police patrons.

      Thus, that’s why the distinction (without seeing or knowing WHO the other shooters really are) between the two or three domestic terrorists groups is very difficult to make. Two groups in particular come to mind (and both would have had reason for choosing this particular location and venue (and neither would have probably picked Chicago – which I feel may be stolen identity or pre planned unsuspecting meeting location for something). And, who knows if the rumor about Anti-fa literature in the room true … and if true …. was it staged. *I doubt they needed to read a brochure.
      A) Anti-fa has come up against Confederates lately out of the blue … equates to the South or Country (Heritage)
      B) Black Jewish Supremacy Extremists or just Anti-Cop and Anti-White movement: might ALSO see the same

      I (we) don’t know much about Anti-fa … they just kind of showed up out of nowhere … Charlottesville was a shock. The other domestic hate/terrorist group(s) have actually made claims in the past to Anti-police behavior that for lack of a better word came true. This ‘plot’ would be …. right up there ally. For what ever reason it’s what they believe will happen. And, if their (delusions) were correct about police being ambushed and killed … then who’s to say?

      With Paddock’s very checkered past …. and contacts/associates, places he lived or bought homes it’s also possible he worked with or for the government at some time …. and maybe for a long time. He may have even been in retirement and came out for an assignment (sent Marylou away) … or he could be not what everyone thought? We can’t even presume HE transferred the money to Marylou now that we know his hard drive is missing. (Much less why.) They/someone could have possibly been trying to conceal the transfer. (Although his bank account might still show this transaction regardless.) And, didn’t the first reports state: “They don’t know ‘who’ the money was received by”. Paddock lived in multiple different areas with the same type of ‘bad’ people with these (killing) ideologies. Other people who may or may not have run into these same people in areas (city/state) Paddock lived in who expressed these (killing) ideologies have also experienced strange and or suspicious deaths in their families. Perhaps even more strange than what has been revealed so far about Paddock. (Minus the mass killing of course.)

      One areas that Paddock lived in was Mesquite, Texas …. Do you remember Micha Xavier Johnson?

      Now, it’s also possible that there are way more “Johnson’s” out there than this country realizes or wants to admit and that no matter where Paddock lived …. then of course there were people out there with these (killing) ideologies. And, that it’s barely even a coincidence but, just a given and absolutely no connection.

      But, because his death appears so strange … (perhaps not even a suicide) … and Paddock certainly doesn’t fit the profile of this (killing) ideology … someone should be taking a serious look at if there were indeed other shooters and if so …. WHO … were they.

      There are truly some twisted individuals out there that WANT Lawlessness, Marshal Law and a Civil War. To them it’s an entitlement issue … (belief) … which makes them as dangerous as ISIS if not more so because they are on US soil and not (mostly) off in some other country some where. And, like ISIS it stems from a biblical belief.

      Oppression can cause a weak mind to dream up ‘bad’ ideas …

      Or, some multi-millionaire became depressed over gambling issues and stock piled massive amounts of weapons for over a year to use only two in a weird suicide (and massive homicide). *Kind of presumptuous … how would he know he would remain on a losing streak. And, that’s of course if that part is even “true”. Take that reason with a grain of salt. Consider the source …. in a huge investigation … would they ever “say” they are looking for other shooters … if that was the mission that perhaps failed in the first place? Possible Intelligence had a heads up something might happen …. at the venue. Paddock may have been sent in to stop or prevent it for all we know.

      • LizziMcD

        Yes, every white person, particularly males are being made “the enemy”. Horrible!! Racism increased exponentially while obama was president. The Saul Alinski wannabe Obama has his “shadow government FBI men” now, maybe they concocted it. I don’t know, but why else would obama still be in Wash DC if not to keep trouble brewing, resist white conservatives, and make more money from the Soros’ spending spree to globalize and have open borders worldwide.

  • Justin

    The bill to roll back some gun laws was almost up for a vote when rep Steve Scalise was shot then when it’s about to come back up for a vote this shooting happens. There are too many coincidences for me so I’ve been reading anything I can get my hands on.

  • po

    This article is complete garbage. One guy asserts there were two shooters without explaining who told him that, and another video has a flashing light. If there was concerted gunfire from the FOURTH floor (ie not that high above ground level) then there would be more videos, and clearer videos around. You reptiles attempting to build a career out of this fake media are lower than scum.

  • Ron Wheeler

    Looks and feels like a false flag to justify laws to remove guns from ownership. The Manchurian candidate.

  • Mike Finnell

    Bullshit… one insane person, one shooter, no evidence otherwise..

  • Michelle Applebee

    Lol, those videos are completely debunked, eye witness accounts of the flashing light the entire weekend before the shooting and it continued after as well. Here is a video of it hours before the shooting. Do a little more research before posting bogus shit.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwofXcgzh9/

  • Trump is President

    Way to spread bullcrap.

  • Hate The Devil

    If it’s one sick asshole or 2,3 it’s sick horrible mentally disturb who can do that but a sick fu?? Karma a bitch if he or they have family they know what’s coming to them. Awful my prayers to all got hurt or killed by this sick fuck

  • Jay

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we have FBI/CIA/NSA, etc. trolling this page and making those who conclude anything but the wanted conclusion, look like a bunch of loonies. Fight on. Question everything. I know what I see in the videos, but won’t be quick to say anything except I see what I see.

  • Sally Schneider Lyons

    How can you be in the room next door when all hotels have odd numbers on one side and even numbers on the other? But yet you state 32134 and 32135….that would be across the hall?!?

  • TogetherWeStand

    The Bundy Stand Off trial, which will determine whether the people still have the reserved power to bring the Federal Government into compliance with the law, will begin in a few days. The Federal Government has lost already twice in humiliating, astounding, and dramatic displays of Jury Nullification power. The third trial will be a three strikes and your out blow to Federal Government self-created power to steal land from the people. Jury selection is everything right now to those in power and in control of our corrupt judicial system. What better way to control jury selection than by a tragic world event of this nature controlled by their narrative?

  • Vegas Squid

    I know people who were at the concert all 3 days. That is actually a strobe light that was on all 3 days and not the muzzle flash of the gun.

  • domahman

    I thought that the internet was good for people…I guess I’m wrong. It could be dangerous and people are easily misinformed. Could the internet be used as mind control or propaganda? I mean, they believe everything! sick and tired of this … ppl, please use common sense. You weren’t there, you are not an expert.

  • Andrew Mastrandonas

    This is garbage lol. This is a click bait site and one with a complete bias. That first video could have been taken anytime lol.

  • Pat Mc Ginley

    Suggesting that this was ‘the worst mass shooting in American history’ is factually incorrect. There were many mass shootings of hundreds of innocent people at Wounded Knee, Sand Creek, etc. But it’s typical of people who want to sanatise and rewrite history, obliterating uncomfortable facts. It was the worst mass shooting in recent American history. Facts are extremely important!.

    • Marlie James

      Obviously you don’t read. It’s being described as “The worst mass shooting in MODERN history” Facts are important right.

      • Pat Mc Ginley

        To confirm my comment, the about article states 3 times it’s the worst shooting in American history i.e. “It doesn’t suit the mainstream media’s agenda to have an Antifa member responsible for the worst mass shooting in American history. They are actively engaged in covering up this fact up so they can continue pushing the New World Order’s sick and twisted agenda.
        Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter, was an Antifa member who carried out the worst mass shooting in American history in order to create further division in American society, push the country towards civil war, and further the agenda of the elites.
        Official Antifa facebook page, Antifa Melbourne, congratulated Stephen Paddock after the bloodiest mass shooting in America’s history, before deleting the post after a torrent of criticism.” I know that others have pointed out it’s the worst shooting in modern American history. But not this article. Perhaps you need it again to get your facts right, eh?

  • Liek
    • Soomaali Maxamad

      Unbelievable. Found dead?!

  • It’sallies

    I’m at a hotel in Reno and even numbers are on one side odd numbers on the other, my sister is at a different hotel in Reno and she said hers is the same way as mine. Maybe motels are numbered in order.

  • Avau Watson

    Please pray for the souls who lost their lives as collateral to this war with the Cabal (the shadow government behind all global governments). The attacks in Canada, France and especially Las Vegas all just yesterday October 1, 2017 were undoubtedly orchestrated by the Cabal with their CIA funded Islamic State mercenary army abomination. Same shit different date, same people that orchestrated 9-11, Oklahoma Bomb, Boston Marathon, Virginia Chaos, etc, etc, and lied about it. Enough is enough, humanity do not want anymore of this stupidity and greed. Come Galactic Federation of Light, it is time for them to go with their incarnation minions, and leave humanity to rest and heal from their eons of turmoil bloodshed and killings. It’s time already to move to the timeline of NOW moment of love, light and peace. So be it, I know it and it is done, hallelujah.

  • Joshua Deats

    I have to say being a Las Vegas resident and working at the time a few miles from the incident we all got reports of multiple gunmen. I have posted this on many different news sites and all of my comments have never been posted or taken down. We had cops first hand at our casino, saw people from the scene, and were listening to police scanners. We got text messages and saw snaps from multiple first hand eyewitness being shot at and everyone was convinced that it was not just one, or two, but most likely three shooters. I could go on but any of these messages I write that take time detailing things get removed.

  • Reuel Smith

    this has yet another false flag set written all over it. there are reports not being covered as usual by msm of multi shooters.

  • Rod Jos

    I didnt see in this video more than one side of shooting why this person lying, FBI must check why this person lying

  • Slim

    Well gov cops etc they love to lie And they love be to break the law anyway they can.

  • Raw_Dog76

    The video with the Second shooter Is from a Cab from the company I work for… That was VERY LOW….. $th floor.. okay so NOW what in the actual FUCK!!??!! 2 shooters…..UGH And what ever happened with the woman they were lookijng for? what does she have to say?

  • Vital Rights

    Is this beginning to look like – THEY LIED, NOBODY DIED, again?
    Is it just a Hellywood STUNT – like many others?
    Just by looking at how the crowd reacts may begin to give it away…

  • Jameson Dargen

    Can these people be interviewed and more video clips showing these statements to be factual is also needed.

  • Mark Rose

    Just wondering if there is broken glass on the 4th as well.

  • middlechamber

    If this guy has any connection to Antifa. I hope the Gov puts a strangle hold on them immediately. It should have been done day1. They are NOT ANTI NAZI they are NOT Anti RACISTS. THEY ARE JUST IGNORANT HATEFUL ANARCHISTS. The proud product of all of you ignorant Socialist Lefties

  • Dr. Marc Niffers

    I too am suspicious when events like this happen, but if there really was a 2nd shooter on a lower floor how come there is no broken out window like the two on the 32nd floor? You would think some cell phone camera or other video would have captured a lower window broken out. There have been dozens of pictures of the hotel and I have seen only the two broken windows on the upper floor.

  • Doug Pippen

    The windows in the hotel are inoperable. Stephen Paddock had to break the windows to his 32nd floor room to shoot.

    There were no such broken windows on the 4th floor.

  • Todd Woda

    That blinking light in the video above was still blinking long after this incident ended. What a bunch of crap people come up with.

  • Marcus Weiss

    Seriously? Mainstream media is covering it? The internet is a joke. OMG.

  • RLM

    unreal did they see oj too he was released the day before…

  • KB

    common sense would suggest there is more than one shooter and my own experience of seeing a video of shots coming from a lower floor adds to that conviction. There is more here than what has been revealed.

  • Tall T

    FYI
    The FBI can turn any of you in a serial killer with little effort. Look how little of effort it would take if you were alone on the 34 the floor to make you seem like a dead gun men.

  • lucille

    Terrorist group. There are witness that they were among the crowd of ppls. One Women Threaten that they were gonna die. Shooters were up close. The sound of guns were of other directions. One got shot UNDER the chin, witness claims, THEY KEPT COMING FOREWARD SHOOTING. NO lone wolf, AMERICANS WE are being attacked within our own Country. Some antifa or blm bitch on facebook said on October 2, and November 4th ppls will die. STAY VIGILANT, STAY ALERT!

    • Tall T

      There was 22,000 people in attendance and only two videos made available. So only 2 out of the 22,000 people had their cell phones out. Very unlikely. Something is wrong. And being cautious and alert is the best advice for all

  • Harry Ballsaq

    I call Bullshit on this article

  • Mike

    I saw the flashes from the video. Are the windows on this floor sliding windows that one can open and shut? If so their might be little evidence, other than the flash powder residue in the room from the multiple rounds being shot. If the window is not a slider, and there is not a window busted out, then how is it possible that shots came from this room?

  • The Hangman

    Another ZOG Mossad false flag.

  • Trac Mila

    Shooter was dead before the shooting started. NSA CIA Mossad operation.

  • Steven Padavana

    The idiocy in this column knows no boundaries. Not a single iota of evidence to back up a single claim. The loonies sure do come out in droves after these mass shootings and the gullible sure do suck it up. I mean we all know it was strictly an ISIS operation – didn’t you see their “claim” on it? lol

  • Carmen Small

    There were two broken windows on the upper floor, not sure about the lower one. But it amazes me that he had 2 rooms set up for just himself in the first place. And none of the staff noticed anything? And why did he have two vehicles there? Some things just do not add up to the story we are being fed.

  • J Bolan

    THIS former Army Sniper came out immediately after the attack debunking the LONE SHOOTER narrative and telling us that there were more than 2 or more shooters. NEED to read this one – https://mechdefense.com/blogs/news-and-reviews/fifty-dead-and-200-injured-in-alleged-mass-shooting-in-las-vegas

    • Steven Padavana

      And you buy his shit? How many times does a “sniper” fire into a crowd of 25,000 people standing shoulder to shoulder? This was not a sniper operation, it was shooting fish in a barrel.

  • Py

    This doesn’t sound bias at all.

    • Py

      biased* 🙂

  • Exafcop1

    floors 3-6 are meeting rooms. these would also be party rooms. this definitely could be a flashing light. i guess it could be muzzle flash as well but he’s holding the rifle extremely still. not sure anyone would do that. https://www.mandalaybay.com/content/dam/MGM/mandalay-bay/property-maps/mandalay-bay-hotel-property-map-casino.pdf

  • Johnny Rico

    You can see the muzzle flashes and sounds coming from the fourth floor.

    • NoBS NoSpam

      No you can’t. The timing of the strobes is repetitive. Other videos have been posted.

  • Steve Conroy

    Why were there no Broken Windows on the 4th floor ?? They stated that these windows DO NOT open !!!

  • Mike

    Stop the madness, lets make Heroin illegal so people don’t get killed….. oh, wait… More people in 2016 died from heroin-related causes than from gun homicides

  • Joe Ayers

    Baxter’s mom tried to abort him by throwing herself down the stairs, but it only made the fetus retarded.

  • Sits ‘N Spins

    58 dead, 529 (at least) injured….and this man only shot 120 rounds according to the news media?? And this man was already dead when they found him?? Really? I’m not buying it. There was more than 1 shooter. There is a conspiracy here and we know it because the media is purposely lying about what happened.

  • Jean Barton

    STOP … Do not fall for their evil game. They are trying to get us to hate like they do. Don’t stoop to their level. God bless and do not let your heart be hardened.

  • Bobby Cooper

    ABC (NO)News said, “Shooter did not have any Social Media Accounts. WHICH IS A LIE !

  • Julia Snider

    The videos shot at Mandalay Bay was on July 16th, an incident involving another shooter. Fact, you check. Residents have been well aware of these past events that are suddenly being used to push a hoax agenda.

  • Clint Fuller

    I saw the video on TV of the SWAT team in the hallway after the ‘takedown’. Where are the videos of the shooter ‘loading’ his room? I think we can all agree that for him to get all those guns (ten now?) onto the 32 floor he would have had to pass under multiple surveillance cameras.

    • NoBS NoSpam

      The worst of them have been scrubbed from the recorders. The coverup is started BEFORE the incident.

  • wxman2001

    This australian man may have been across the hall, but could not have been next door, as hotel rooms are numbered odd on one side of the hall and even on the other side. Have seen two videos of shots fired from a much lower floor than the 32nd.

  • robertsgt40

    Article was doing well until you tried to associate Paddock was Antifa. BS

    • NoBS NoSpam

      He was a self admitted “Pussy” hat Social Justice prostitute. Soros bought and paid for just from his “work” history.
      The truth will be hard to censor this time.

  • Lyn

    I was listening to a recording of the police scanner on fb a few minutes ago, and I suddenly got cut off. The posting also included a recording from a taxi driver outside the Mandalay Bay. It clearly sounded like the shots were coming from different locations. It could be because I think he was shooting from an additional window around the corner, but it sounded farther than that. We’ll probably never know the whole story.

  • Truth lives

    Look at other photos, there is not any broken glass on the 4th floor! It’s the fire alarm going off and the strobes are flashing which was caused by all the gun smoke on the 32nd floor. Come on people it’s not about guns or mental illness it’s about evil people who don’t have god in their lives!

  • afftongrown

    I became suspicious at first when reading that concert goers reported a woman(the girlfriend) pushed her way through the crowd, announcing to them they would die that night. The whole narrative has so many holes & reads like a sophmoric try at journalism.

  • Noele Coffee

    The flashing lights on the lower window could have been a reflection of another gunman shooting from another hotel. I seen a video posted and Everytime shots were fired it sounded like they were from different directions.

    • NoBS NoSpam

      Please understand how and why echo location works. it is easy to “bounce” sound around using surrounding buildings. Hell, even remote controlled fireworks used as a diversion is an old military tactic used since gunpowder was invented.

  • PhillipNagle

    When the official story makes no sense: ie a 64 year old man, leading a pleasant and apolitical life suddenly decides to commit a very well planned and complicated mass murder, involving modifying weapons for which he had no tools and moving a large quantity of weapons and ammunition into his hotel room, maybe it is time to revisit that official story.

  • cat Tschida

    When the people of France stormed Versailles to over throw the tyranny of King Louis The Sixthteenth and Marie Antoinette, they did not have the right to have guns and therefore had to fight with pitchforks and axes. This ridiculous form of government would not have lasted as long as it did if the people had a right to bear arms. Do you really want to go back to those times?

  • C Benton

    Please stop with this fake news. There was 1 shooter from 1 location. Everything in Vegas is on camera. They would not have stood down if there had been any chance of multiple shooters. I live here and listened all night to the police scanners. there WERE multiple reports of multiple gunmen from properties all over the strip. Each hotel had a fast reaction squad of SWAT and other police stationed at them through the night. Each call I heard was responded to…only to find that the individuals saw someone with bloody clothes, were drunk out of their mind and in panic mode…or were unable to locate the individual who called in the reports.

    The windows at the Mandalay do not open. There were no broken windows on the 4th floor…so unless those bullets can pass through glass without breaking it…you’re spreading lies and fear for the sake of clickbait.

  • mary

    Sky the LIE television immediately had a cop on camera asking for all videos that had been filmed on their phones to be handed in immediately I wonder why, they are so afraid their murders are going to be exposed wake up america

  • Pragmatist

    One of the first acts of the NAZIS when they took control in Germany was to CONFISCATE all weapons in PRIVATE hands.

  • Shannon Helton

    Just an fyi, the lower level windows can open or be removed. The higher levels are sealed to keep people from jumping out of them. There WERE muzzle flashes from lower flowers. Also, when were the windows busted out? It was a 2 room suite, large yet no one reported being hit by falling debris, nor any shown. Not saying there was no shooting from that room, but the video does not lie.

  • Skid

    The sound is not matching up with the flash. No broken windows on that floor. – End of this part of the conspiracy.

  • Melissa Hurley

    Since there are reports of multiple shooters and evidence coming from the 4th floor, also the security gaurd being shot n killed at another hotel (probably really not security just had on the uniform), and with the accused shooter bringing so many guns to his room, thst maybe he didn’t shoot at all, maybe someone had him held in his room, using his room as the place to shoot, and killed him making it look like a suicide, that it could be lSIS or whatever else, too many guns in one room for one shooter, maybe he was set up n murdered, just saying….I am seeing so many different videos n news articles that this man can be a victim too.

  • Bernie Buerman

    Kill the old guy first and take over so cops find only him dead in the room. ISIS bragged for a reason.

  • Hobo Joe

    Mandalay Bay has some of the best security cameras in the world. You’re telling me in this article that a security guard was killed in the hotel and thier telling you they don’t know that it was more than one man? After the first gun shot there would have been multiple security guards storming that hotel room or police officers down in the casino. They know and the president and CIA would Cover that up because They don’t want you to think there’s terror involved

  • Joel Waldner

    If this was indeed carefully orchastrated then then why not professionally remove the window, commit a crime, then professionally re-install the window while the other gunmen draw attention from you so you can escape. Maybe there were more than just two people involved.

  • bburn

    The real problem with this story and the theory that there was a gunman on the fourth floor (have also seen a report that there was gunfire coming from the 10th floor) is that the windows are not broken out. Explant that??!!

  • Sally Schneider Lyons

    Every hotel I’ve stayed at are like this. Even if you have an adjoining room, they are NOT in sequence. With as much traveling as I do, every major hotels are odd numbers on one side and even on the other.

  • mary

    The cops have been asking for all video or phone footage to be handed in that was taken at the scene makes you wonder why NOT and wonder why I posted this info 20 minutes ago and it was removed any reason mr DMITRY

  • Jax

    This is a bunch of downtown bullshit !!

  • Terri

    Ok I’m calling bs! i have worked in the hospitality industry for many years and anyone who has or even stayed in a hotel knows that odd number rooms are on one side of the hall and even number rooms on the other. Trying to push an agenda with lies !!!! Shame on you

  • Evans John

    They’re claiming that the shooter had multiple guns, so my question is why were there long pauses between firing? He could have just set down one gun and pick up the next one for continuous firing.

    • Hanna Preserve

      Look up Sociopath.

  • mary

    the cops are asking for video or phone footage of the massacre

  • John Price

    Braddock is a patsy. Such accuracy from 32 floors up? From 4 floors yes. Parallax view baby!

  • Ithamar

    Heard a lot of automatic gunfire in 30 years active duty military. From audio, clearly, no less than two full auto weapons (not same caliber) from separate locations.

    • Tom

      Enough bullets to kill 59 and wound over 500 WILL leave abundant ballistic evidence of both the caliber and specific, individual weapons used. Rifling, extractor claws, and firing pins all leave microscopic evidence on bullets and cases. If we don’t see a coherent case built on this obvious evidence, and released to experts for analysis (since there will be no trial, the “suspect” is dead) then we will know we are looking at a cover-up.

  • Tom

    “…The fact is the Las Vegas shooting was clearly a co-ordinated false flag attack, orchestrated by Paddock…”

    If it was orchestrated by Paddock, for whatever motive, it wasn’t a “false flag” attack. If it was orchestrated by government or Deep State operatives using Paddock as a hapless patsy (more likely, IMO) then it *was* a false flag attack.

  • Ali Sina

    I believe Sessions is too weak to deal with the massive problems facing America. He is focused on illegal immigration alone but that is not the only problem. Antifa is also a terrorist organization. There are countless Islamic terrorist organizations, The Clinton criminal cartel is perhaps the biggest criminal organization.The deep state is also a criminal organization. The DoJ needs to tackle all of that and I don’t think Sessions is up to the task. I don’t even think he is in control of the FBI.

  • mary

    the powers that be are asking for any video or phone footage to be handed in I wonder why

  • Russell C.

    Well there were multiple shooters that’s an undeniable fact. If you watch the taxi cab video from the beginning you can hear the shots being fired from multiple locations as well as see the muzzle flashes from the 4th floor. Somebody is lying that’s for damn sure

  • Dylan Hunter

    FROM THE ARTICLE: “Wendy Miller from Cooroy, on the Sunshine Coast – another Australian caught up in the Las Vegas shooting – may have provided a missing piece of the puzzle. Also speaking to the Courier-Mail, Ms Miller said she was at a bar in the nearby Luxor Hotel with her husband when she saw what she described as a “man of interest” run by. Ms Miller said the man sprinted through her hotel after coming off an escalator from the Mandalay Bay.” So this broad was allegedly in a bar inside the LUXOR and saw a man riding the escalator down inside the Mandalay Bay?!?!?!?!? After 10:00PM at night when it’s dark outside and casino lights and noise going on inside both venues?

  • James Lybbert

    so, I assume one of them was on the grassy knoll.

  • Sara

    Fucking why though? You hear one steady round of bullets, any one who argues otherwise has never fired a semi auto in their fucking life. What reason would media have to hide multiple gunmen??? This all sounds like garbage bulllllllshit created to profit of the death of these people. The shooter had multiple guns so he didn’t have to reload anything and could pick up the next gun. It’s very common in mass shootings. This wasn’t a fucking plot to take republicans guns away you dumb incestual country bumpkins

  • MOV

    I keep hearing about the windows don’t open and so how could there have been more then one shooter? So I google the “no other broken window” conspiracy and here is what I found from tripadvisor.com https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34c8844aa90995bc781b906e051de6b7d7c40ffb9ccfdcea342579acdd0719de.jpg 17. Re: windows opening- do any strip hotels have windows that open?
    Mar 06, 2008, 11:49 AM
    Mandalay Bay also has those little “ventilation strips” that you can slide open if it’s the phobia about air circulating…???

    • Tom

      Busted! The only reason any window needed to be broken was to say “look up here! this is where the shooter fired from!”

      • MOV

        All of my comments on the MSM about this have been deleted. Hmmm… I’m done.

  • inquisitive

    The worst massacre in US history is Wounded Knee perpetrated by US goverment look it up.

  • Stephanie

    Before the conspiracy theories begin (as they always do) let the law enforcement do their work … the mainstream media is reporting what they are being told via police/FBI etc … I know people want to blame an ‘outsider’ to have a (bad) ‘reason’ for this however it just might not be the case .
    When Jennedy was shot, when man went to the moon … on & in – there’s always a opppsite theory. I’m being open minded -not going there till the facts are in.

  • mary

    the powers that be want all the video footage and phone footage I wonder why

  • Tom

    In a recent interview by Greg Hunter with Catherine Austin Fitts, https://youtu.be/w-57aexDfLk she talks about teaming up with a professor and his graduate students to go through federal expenditures line by line. They found $21 TRILLION in “undocumented adjustments” — missing money. With that amount of money being siphoned out of the treasury we should expect to be able to detect some of it being spent to advance Deep State interests. Was Las Vegas some of that money?

    Another researcher just posted a video where he went through local government real estate transfer records surrounding Sandy Hook Elementary School in New Town CT and found huge amounts of transfers and mortgages mysteriously paid off for “zero $” on CHRISTMAS DAY 2009 — nobody completes RE transactions on Christmas day, the offices are CLOSED! Was this more of the stolen federal money being spent to advance the gun control agenda? https://youtu.be/jWbk_xKCyME Keep in mind that 12/25/09 is just a few months into the first Obama admin where he has chosen as US AG Eric Holder, who is on record believing that we “must brainwash people into thinking differently about guns” https://youtu.be/0nM0asnCXD0 So this program is continuing under Trump, proof that elected officials have no control over that agenda moving forward.

  • captainsgirl

    Vegas was an Illuminati Sacrifice via CIA. Killing Republicans and many are Christians in cold blood. The attempted murder of thousands. AVOID LARGE CROWDS! Trump needs to arrest all the CIA and the Elite, many Congressmen are involved and ban all dangerous cults ASAP!

  • Dawnie Rotten

    That was not a shooter on the 4th floor. It’s a ‘strobe’ light, of some sort. There is NO sounds of shots fired during ALL of the time the light is going off. There WAS, however, at least TWO shooters on the upper floor. The TWO broken windows is OBVIOUS! That was NOT one room (with 2 broken windows); those rooms are not that large!! ALL rooms that would be THAT large, in hotels, are ALWAYS on the top floor(s).

    • Haywoodjbl

      It was a two room suite with a family room in between

  • Michael Campanella

    I am finding a few other videos of the flashing light and there are NO shots being fired while its flashing, must be something else

  • Brian Hodge

    Hi team, can you please correct this story, I did not say that i saw multiple gunmen. Thank you, thoughts and prayers for you all, stay safe 🙂 xxx

    • the_centrist

      How weird that they used your disqus profile pic for the article!

      Oh dear.

  • Mike Remillard

    Any military people out there can u identify the type of gun by its sound and if so what gun do you think was used

  • Lynda Willson

    Some Americans try and cross the Canadian Border with their guns and are so offended when they cannot. We do not carry guns in Canada and I am thankful for that. Sure the criminals get their hands on some and shoot each other but hard to stop that. Another reason I am proud to be a Canadian. We have strict gun laws and they are enforced.

    • Joe Miester

      Great Lynda. Stay there please.

  • http://www.michaellohrphotography.com/ Michael Lohr

    Ok oh bright one. How did the shooter on the fourth floor shoot out the window without damaging the window?

  • https://www.facebook.com/groups/gaparty/ Chuck Kidd

    Just checked it out, Mandalay Bay has the sliding window stop that allows you to open a window approx. 6 inches to get fresh air. Definitely open enough to shoot from so video of shooter on lower floor is possible.

  • Henry99

    The discussion should not be about guns, it should be about mental health. Everyone of these mass shootings since Columbine in 1999 have been done by people with mental health issues.

    Current gun laws should be strictly followed and if they need to strengthen them, it should be geared towards people with mental problems.

    Regular everyday gun owners don’t commit crimes, it’s the very few with mental problems.

    And now, terrorist members of the far left progressive liberal democrat anti-facist (antifa) members who are so twisted over Clinton loosing, that they are trying to destroy this country.

    They almost destroyed it with 8 years of Obomber and electing Hillary Clinton for 4 more years would have put the nails in the coffin of a free America.

    We have to stop them. But they are not alone, as many Republicans are in cahoots with them, people like John McCain, and Rand Paul. They need to be voted out.

  • captainsgirl

    Looks like the Illuminati=CIA aren’t too bright. They forgot about eyewitnesses. lol

  • Neecole

    I’ve read many comments saying, “Democrats want to take away our guns!”. Are you talking about dems in government, voters, or everyone?

  • Resist_Tyranny

    Look for Paddock to be cremated before they can test for nitro… Also the 4th floor can and should be tested.

  • an0n1

    I clearly here multiple calibers being fired at the same time and no this is not echo. The first volley includes a 7.62 being fired as well as a smaller caliber (probably 5.56). The second volley is definitely 5.56 or even smaller with a hand crank on the trigger of a semi auto or a bump fire stock. You can clearly here the rate of fire slow down and speed up in the second volley. EVERYONE NEEDS TO ARCHIVE THESE VIDEOS AND REPORTS because these will disappear.

  • LePetomane

    How did someone shoot from the 4th floor without breaking the window?

    • Rodney Trotter

      Magic NWO laser gun.

  • ed

    Its A False flag play for American Citizens guns. Dig for the truth. MSM is Fake news.

  • Rodney Trotter

    That article is awful and typical of online pseudo journalism. The “mainstream media” have not released any narrative at all. They have not said that he was without motive they are still yet to comment on it because they are awaiting details from the authorities. He never actually said he saw multiple shooters at any point he just said “there were multiple shooters”.

  • syzygy808

    Fourth floor gunman? Can’t open the windows and no evidence the window was broken.

  • Simone Gemma

    How about a lie detector for CIA & FBI? Statement analysis also does wonders regarding lies.

  • My hovercraft is full of eels

    You’re a fucking Moron. A giant fucking Moron. A lying sack of shit moron.

  • Roberto Deramo

    I do not trust ANY person “working” in DC, elected or not, to do the right thing for ALL others. The love of money and the power it may give them disqualifies them from ever being trusted to tell the TRUTH.

    Those whom advocate for the removal of arms from law abiding citizens should have THEIR arms/guns taken away.

    Then, maybe the rest of us will have a higher percentage of not being a victim of this evil.

    No one will “take” my right to bear arms or confiscate said arms without a fight. Period.

  • bgparks

    All Anti-Gun goons listen up: How about we send some butt-hungry anal freak ex-cons to your house for a little freak-fest and Colt 45. After the “party” they help themselves to all the cash and loot they can carry out. As a conservative gun owner, I promise not to intervene personally, but will offer to toss you a loaded glock. You make the choice! Booty, Jaw or Flying Lead – make the right choice or end up dead.

  • No Warning Shots

    This wasn’t Anti-fa or ISIS both are front groups for Soros and company. The three amigos Soros, Hitlery, and Barry are more likely behind the scenes orchestrating this using Antifa and ISIS as poster boys to shift the blame from the source. These are red herrings. It’s obvious from the mussel flashes on the forth floor that the media is running cover for the perps as they always do in all these mass shootings making them complicit in the crimes. The heads of these networks need to be questioned as to why they are lying and held accountable for being complicit, giving cover for crimes, giving false witness, and obscuring and omitting the truth. All evidence claimed by MSM such as Antifa literature, guns all over the room is more likely planted, or fabricated to enforce the false narrative. Clearly a false flag event. The left/communist are getting sloppy. They can no longer hide their crimes because the tech they intended to use against us, cell phones, computers, Internet, is waking the public up and giving them instant results that contradict every thing the controlled media says. God bless all the victims and their families the left has attacked their core value systems once again. Now lets see how they try to blame Trump.

  • Karen Bonner

    You gun-nutter americans are fucked. No wonder your shitty country and all you little circus freaks elected a fucking clown as your leader.

    • Joe Miester

      Ah! Now we know that Karen is NOT AMERICAN. Mind you own country ANTIFA commie and STFU!!

  • Sally Rogers
  • jonnyamerican

    Just one big problem with this video and a 4th floor shooter. The windows are intact. How did a 4th floor shooter shoot through glass without breaking it? And no, those windows don’t open…………….

  • Dennis Moyer

    except there are only one rooms windows busted out , so unless the 2nd shooter can shoot through glass .. this theory is busted

  • ~ IronAge ~ MAGA ~

    It’s called a reflection from the adjacent building

  • http://www.faceliftfloors.com Craig Mouldey

    I’m not at all convinced Mr. Paddock had anything to do with the shooting. The Patsy, the guy who is set up to take the blame so often ends up dead. I also suspect connection to antifa and ISIS is also staged.

  • RickD

    You people are so foolish, the elite want you to have plenty of guns to shoot each other up, makes great tv ratings, keeps the plebs occupied with moral outrage, but nothing ever changes, be a new mass killing later this month and same drill, same congressional crocodile tears .. If the elite that run this country did not you to have all these weapons, you wouldn’t. period. You have what is given to you. Wake up..

  • Cattalac

    I’ve heard this theory and seen the video, but it doesn’t appear to be any other windows except those shown of the hotel the next day, that were busted out.

  • Jackie

    They might have gotten a hold of a security jacket. Uniform control has rfid chips but they can be cut out and they are not perfect with tons of employess hired and fired. I kept hearing about a “security guard” either shot in the leg or killed. This is a piece of the puzzle. The cover up may be to protect MGM from lawsuits. The festival and Mandalay are both MGM.

  • cheryl

    Stop using Lone Wolf, he is a terrorist

  • Ashley McBride

    Can’t watch the video… coincidence?? So many things aren’t adding up with this story, like why were shots coming from the 4th or 10th floor too?? And the lady that warned people this was about to happen??

    • https://www.mixcloud.com/reticuli/ Reticuli

      It’s probably Juan’s longer entire video he took down because it was obviously a strobe if you weren’t too lazy not to watch the entire thing or do the math and show the delays were completely wrong for the parts that weren’t totally absent gunshot sounds. He has since put a trimmed version up and is likely monetizing them.

  • Caius Keys

    Thanks for the Melbourne Antifa tweets — quick question though:

    Was there any physical evidence on the fourth floor to confirm the firing position?

  • Diane Kuzniewski Gunst

    If there was a second shooter they sure fixed that 4th story window quick.

  • D’Neil Galler

    I’m in Vegas right now, and can tell you that there are no broken out windows on a lower floor…I looked, because we saw the flashes too. It’s most likely a reflection…. There is another building right next door, that is also all gold glass mirrors.

  • StateWorkerBee

    This article just shows how delusional and sick the far right are. Is Russia helping to spread this fake news?

    • captainsgirl

      Maybe you did it.

    • https://www.mixcloud.com/reticuli/ Reticuli

      It’s embarrassing. Baxter Dmitry shouldn’t quit his day job. He’s misquoting a source and several accurate quotes are of hearsay, not of eyewitness accounts. He’s coming to this with his mind already made up and a narrative he’s promoting.

  • Noel

    Why are there no photos or video the next morning of the broken window on the 4th floor?

  • Terry Seeker

    The cab driver’s video was cut off from the beginning where the shots sounded next to the cab and others very far away – simultaneously.

  • mammalookaboobooday

    Keep me in mind when you grow up.

  • Lauren P

    The blinking was confirmed by multiple concert goers to be a strobe light that was there since night #1. If you watch the video from the taxi driver, you will see that it is blinking even before the firing starts. Sheriff Lombardo has also confirmed this to be accurate in his statements to the public.

    • Lauren P

      Further.. just because this article was posted on the internet, does not make it factual. It has opinions all over it. If this is a “real people’s news” site, shouldn’t it be unbiased and be abundant in factual information, with credible sources? Don’t be a sheep people, just because this looks like its from another point of view. Take the time to cross reference. I’m not saying there was not another shooter, I’m not being an asshole and attacking anyone. I’m saying make sure you do all the research before you claim something to be truth.

      • https://www.mixcloud.com/reticuli/ Reticuli

        None of the people quoted claim to have seen multiple shooters themselves, and Baxter Dmitry has also misquoted someone as claiming cops shot a security guard.

  • Rick Donaldson
  • Ken Bell

    Shade of November 22, 1963; Lee Harvey Oswald ring a bell?

  • Heidi Brydson

    He is totally denying this story. Get your facts straight. Show me the interview. We don’t need more fake news.

  • Gary Partin

    Did you know that for the past week or so I had been seeing ANITIFA posts warning about Nov 1st. I was thinking, why would they tell you when they will attack? That’s dumb. Then I thought, maybe it’s a misleading date. Then this at the beginning of Oct.

  • Jason West

    Uuuum if this Theory is true then what did the shooter take the window out before he started shooting and then shoot for a while and replace the window back because the only window windows that were broken out we’re up on the 30 something floor where mister retard was shooting from. I can’t see why people would want to try and make a name for themselves by making up some retarded Theory with a little photoshopping video of a shooter on the 4th floor, come on people this ain’t something to make a name though for yourself. Should be ashamed of ur stinking self. U must be lonely and in need of some attention. Call ur mom or something from her basement, don’t start ignorant conspiracy theories. Jesus…….

  • Jacqueline

    Why did that policewoman in the second video clip say, “I’m out of here”, after she clearly saw where the shots were coming from?

  • Joe Ayers

    This is horse shit. There is video of that strobe light on the 4th floor going off hours before Jason Aldean took the stage and accounts of it still going off the next morning. Dumb ass wack jobs think everything is a conspiracy.

  • Addie

    What happens when guns get taken away: https://i.imgur.com/YaSnCFW.png

  • Alain Henry

    The 2nd Amendment doesn’t give anyone the right to own ammunition, but it does give neo-Nazis the right to form an armed militia…which is exactly what they’re doing.

  • William Roberts

    This Pollack guy could have been a patsy .He might not have been the shooter at all but was used and then assassinated to hide the real shooters .Just a thought.

  • ollie

    And the PTB sit back and laugh at the guy on the street fighting with each other over being a Democrat or Republican, cause they know that as long as they are fighting each other the PTB are all safe and cozy! Wake people!

  • anastasia157

    It’s obvious. Anyone can find out what political party he is registered under. It would be very easy to find out. Yet, the media withholds this information. Why?

  • Eric

    Get rid of the rich, get rid of most of our problems. Maximum wage and maximum wealth needs to be the law of the world. The era of the rich man must end.

  • TheyArentHumans

    I can’t wait til Antifa forces the hand. They’re all going to pay for their treachery.

  • User 1

    wheres the broken 4th floor window?

  • Amit Dadlaney

    Fake news. Light on 4th floor was a strobe light or reflection from the Marquee. Light was strobing way before and after the shooting.

  • Flabenia

    Listen, if “they” are trying to push all of us into another civil war, I sure as shoot, will not consider giving up my time at the rifle range, and I will be taking more firearm defense classes! God Bless America!

  • Josh

    Where’s the broken window on the fourth floor?

  • http://www.onlineprogramreview.com/ Sean Grimes

    I’m not a gun person, but I have no issue with people owning guns as a part of their constitutional right. However, I’m also open to ideas that can reduce mass shootings in our country. We must be open to the notion that our current system could very well have flaws that actually inhibit these kinds of mass shootings. We won’t know until we examine all of the evidence in a civil manner.

  • Joy

    Shooters also on the ground – how many were there? where are they now?

    https://www.facebook.com/ryancarrawake1/videos/525213534495045/

  • Mike

    Fake news and conspiracy BS. That
    was a strobe light, and no window was broken on the 4th floor only
    those two on the 32nd floor. It was flashing all the time even when no
    shots were heard. You can see it in the Taxi video. No windows can open
    also due to possible suicide risks and drinking etc.

  • Mike

    FAKE BS NEWS! That
    was a strobe light, and no window was broken on the 4th floor only
    those two on the 32nd floor. It was flashing all the time even when no
    shots were heard. You can see it in the Taxi video. No windows can open
    also due to possible suicide risks and drinking etc.

  • Carlos Alberto Teixeira
  • johnonthespot

    Morons. How do you explain that the VERY SAME FLASHING LIGHT was captured on video hours earlier? It was a malfunctioning security light. And please explain how someone can shoot through a window that doesn’t open and not break the glass? Idiots.

    And this supposed “Australian tourist” could not have seen anyone because they cleared the rooms of people in the hallway leading to the suspects room before they breached the suite. If he saw a security guard, it was probably the one he shot through the suite door.

  • V.S. Gopalakrishnan

    Today is 5th Oct and I am horrified that the local police, FBI and the “mainstream media” are still going by the theory of Stephen shooting from the 32nd floor, and have completely ignored this. From the two videos posted here, it is so obvious that the gun fire is visible at a lower floor (like the fourth, maybe). The whole world is being fooled.

  • https://www.mixcloud.com/reticuli/ Reticuli

    The first video of the 4th floor light is a trimmed down version of Juan Mejia’s first longer video, which clearly showed that it was actually a strobe. The taxicab one has the exact same delay as Juan’s yet she’s directly under it and much closer. When she pans across, the gunshot sounds briefly stop and the flashing continues. Juan’s earlier long version of the light that has since been taken down by him had a significant period at the end where the gunshot sounds stopped and the light kept going, even though we could hear traffic and him still. I cannot say 100% that there was no shooter in that room, but there absolutely was at the very least a strobe there, and there are videos prior to the shooting and after the shooting that also have the strobe still there. I would like someone to go check that room out and find out if that’s a strobe for helicopters to see the building or some kind of party strobe. It is certainly possible to have multiple shooters and a strobe, even in one of the shooter’s rooms as a way of confusing or masking, or as a means of misdirecting if it’s somewhere that a shooter is not located. But there’s no reason to be reliant on videos, bystanders, and scanner recordings when someone can just go investigate the room and the strobe.

  • Raydar

    Ha ha, you guys are in the New York Times (a real news site) as purveyors of cuckoo conspiracy theories. Congratulations, you’ve made the big time. All of your theories have been debunked. Now I’ll sit back and wait for the crazy.

  • cyberfish2

    Why do these posts always deteriorate into suggestions of intercourse, and name calling? Freedom of speech tolerates vast ignorance.
    I love a good conspiracy theory, but if someone else DID shoot from the 4th floor, why were there no windows broken out there? With all the many of videos of the Mandalay, none show window damage at the 4th floor. Also, the shooter used flash hiders on his weapons; any accomplice would likely do the same. What was the source of the 2 videos showing the 4th floor gunfire?

    • http://www.faceliftfloors.com Craig Mouldey

      It is sad to watch how quickly posters degenerate and cannot tolerate a conversation. Some kind of illness of the spirit or mind?
      From what I’ve read of automatic weapons they get very hot, real fast. And they are spitting burning hot casings all over the place. I would have to question that any such enclosed rooms, indoors, were used as a snipers nest. The place would be filled with smoke and a fire could start. For sure the carpet is melting, releasing more smoke and poison gas. This entire story just stinks…again. Nothing adds up. The most truthful sounding explanation I’ve read thus far is that Paddock was a patsy for the FBI in a gun running sting operation. That sound exactly like something the FBI would do. Unfortunately, the Muslim terrorists were suspicious, so killed him and took advantage of the large crowd to start shooting. This could also explain why he had so many weapons in his room. They were samples of what he was going to sell to the terrorists. Interesting idea anyway. I believe there is zero chance he could have pulled all this off by himself. In fact, I don’t think the guy shot anyone before he was killed.

      • cyberfish2

        ISIS tried to claim responsibility, but was “quickly eliminated?” Paddock had no, as yet, apparent motive. It just stinks of some kind of deal gone bad. His family and girlfriend are baffled. He had no axe to grind, and plenty to live for. We may be a long time finding the truth in all this. Paddokck had 12 semi-autos with bump stocks, if the reports correct. That would let him change guns as each got too hot to shoot. Also, all that gunsmoke would have definitely set off the smoke alarms fairly quickly. This would alert the hotel to his room. Here the story gets murky again. A security guard was sent up and wounded in the leg when Paddock fired many rounds thru the door, but stuck around to let the swat team in with his pass key??wtf?
        Maybe that’s just poor reporting, but it sure sounds off the truth.

        • http://www.faceliftfloors.com Craig Mouldey

          We are surrounded by lies. Almost every event is full of inconsistencies that don’t get explained. yet a story line is rolled out quickly for public consumption. A lone gunman with many weapons is a white supremacist.

  • V.S. Gopalakrishnan

    From the account in the article, the main firing was from a lower floor, this was not one lone wolf’s work but many were behind the massacre, and the mainstream media will not gulp this. What happens to truth? When there is an unprecedented massacre, is the USA all for lies?

  • Toni Popoki Reed

    This writer doesn’t exist. If you search the image, the image is being associated with all sorts of “interesting theories” on way too many things.

  • Loneieagle

    The story says, “Mr. Hodge, who was staying in room 32134, next door to Stephen Paddock in room 32135…” Unless the Madalay Bay Hotel numbers their rooms different than most hotels, room 32134 is not next door to room 32135 it would be across the hall. This does seem to be the case according to an exchange on trip advisor in 2016 where this was said by Doug K,
    “Mandalay Bay Strip view room numbers

    Jul 21, 2016, 11:01 AM

    Does anybody know what the room numbers are for the rooms that look
    north up the strip? I am thinking they are in the 200 wing, and end in
    odd numbers, such as 21-231. Can anyone confirm this or have any other
    info? I have a strip view room booked and do not want the ones that look
    straight over to the airport.”

    And then Swearingen replies,

    “1.Re: Mandalay Bay Strip view room numbers

    Jul 21, 2016, 5:21 PM

    That’s correct, 2-and-an-odd-number. The windows actually point north-north-east, but yes, that’s what you’re after.

    For its sister hotel Delano, it’s 8-and-an-odd-number. They point straight north.
    Edited: 5:23 pm, July 21, 2016”

    So either the story is fabricated or written so sloppy that “next door” means “across the hall”.

  • David Garrett Jr.

    This whole article is so fucking stupid, other videos and police have confirmed that was a strobe light on the 4th floor. You say the guy’s antifa and provide 0 evidence. You say he has ties to ISIS and again provide 0 evidence. You say don’t trust the mainstream media, but all of your information has been obtained not by you, but through the mainstream media you fucking idiot.

  • Baracudda

    Well written! And the Antifa is part of the Soros, Killary, and Obombus army. Just as predicted, they were in on it!

  • Sally Schneider Lyons

    Gotta say…I’ve never seen that!

  • Kevin Lehmkuhl

    the Las Vegas shooting was faked, think about it. this type of thing started heavy after 1999 columbine high school shoting- the anti gun people are behind these faked shootings where nobody can find info on the purported victims. also the singer Marilyn Manson was injured on stage after falling from a prop displaying two massive pistols- same marilyn manson blamed for columbine and an interview was released in september where manson talked about the columbine massacre which was faked. sad to say it but the country “stars” were used in this incident to make this the high profile story it has become.

    • gseattle

      There are interviews out there by people who were there and saw others being hit, pictures of dead bodies on the ground. I’m not saying there isn’t layer-upon-layer of lies being foisted on the public, just that you might want to spend some time listening to the long interviews out there that MSM is completely ignoring before going around making the “fake” claim, because you have no idea what you’re talking about, on this one.

  • gseattle

    No broken window on the 4th floor. Strobe light, probably placed by the architects to cause confusion, much like the firecrackers set off not far the from the stage immediately before.
    Hard to believe you bought the 4th floor shooter myth, not that much research needed even simply on youtube to understand it was a strobe. Nevertheless, many witnesses report other shooters, possibly from helicopters (and there’s a service in LV where you can pay to fire a machine gun from a helicopter by the way), including gunshots at the Belachio 2 km away.
    One thing’s for sure. FBI and police are working hard to “calm the public’s mind” instead of revealing anything if they can avoid it.

  • gseattle

    Couple of dirty little secrets that’ll take the public 15-20 years to figure out: Much of what we see wrong with the world is people trying to cozy up to big $$ like Arab oil money … and in the realm of shooters there’s a microscopic parasite causing galactic proportions of harm in people, toxoplasma. Combine the two. In this case, Paddock, infested with toxo, makes him a jerk and his arms dealer handlers have enough of it so they select him as a patsy to take a fall. Toxo also makes people smarter, so, sensing they might be setting him up on this next show-and-tell hotel room bazaar, he wires some money to gf in Philippines in case. Notice authorities have no intention of telling us anything, because they knew it was going on, as they cozy up to Arab money.

  • Shane Robbins

    The article says he was staying in room 32134? The gunman had that room and a window was shot out. Doesn’t make sense. Maybe he forgot what room he was staying in? Yeah right!