Texas Church Shooter Was Antifa Member Who Vowed To Start Civil War

The gunman who shot up a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, is Devin Kelly, an Antifa member who vowed to start a civil war.

The gunman who opened fire inside a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, has been identified as Devin Kelley, an Antifa member who vowed to start a civil war by “targeting white conservative churches” and causing anarchy in the United States.

Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr said that at least 27 people have been killed in the shooting, according to reports by the CNN and the BBC, with the confirmed death toll expected to climb in the coming hours.

Witnesses report they saw Devin Kelley walk into the Baptist Church in the small town 30 miles from San Antonio at 11:30am local time Sunday, according to KSAT-12.

Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer
Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer

Devin Kelley, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also report Kelley carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.

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Sheriff Joe Tackitt confirmed to Wilson County News that there have been “multiple fatalities” and the shooter has been “taken down.”

Devin Kelley’s Facebook page stated that he was an atheist and his interests included “Civil and social rights” and “Civil rights” as well as endorsements for local Texan Democratic political candidates. His page also featured photos of several high powered weapons.

His Facebook page was taken down without explanation less than an hour after the shooting.

Screenshot of a photo uploaded to Devin Kelly's Facebook profile.
Screenshot of a photo uploaded to Devin Kelley’s Facebook profile.

An eyewitness told CBS News that there was a heavy police presence on the road to the church, adding that they had seen severely injured people being airlifted from the area.

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Screenshot of leaked chat between Antifa members threatening to target “whitey” and conservative churches.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott posted to Twitter shortly after the mass shooting, saying: “Our prayers are with all who were harmed by this evil act. Our thanks to law enforcement for their response. More details from DPS soon.”

President Donald Trump has confirmed he is aware of the situation and said he was monitoring it from Japan.

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  • Fiema’u e Tokoni
    • Corey Schlueter

      Kent Hovind, the same man who ended up in jail for tax structuring along with his wife who divorced him and was excommunicated by his own family?

      • pintorider

        LOL ! Like any business, religion has its fair share of crooks. More than fair share, actually.

      • Phlebs

        I believe his conviction was “Willful failure to pay taxes, Structuring, Obstructing IRS administration.”

        Sounds like an American hero.

    • tnt tcv

      This guy went to prison for 10 years for tax related crimes?

  • TXPatriot_73

    Where are his ears?

    • Terroryzing Won

      In hell with him now

    • Eric Parlin

      Probably still slowly sliding down the inside of his windshield.

    • Federico Savini

      i ate them

    • ar05076

      I knew there was something peculiar about his looks…LOL.. he has no ears ….!

    • Frank Bowman

      Got stuck to the side of his head when he pulled his head out of his ass.

    • Lesní Samoty

      antifa ate them, for the better good of anarchy.

  • angriestdogintheworld

    Obvious false flag.

    • reloader1962 .

      False flag ? Not this . They had been saying they were to start shit nov4th , these nuts were a little late.

      • RhiannonHR

        Actually, ANTIFA called for it to START on Nov. 4th,2017 but they would continue ALL day EVERY day until the Trump admin was demolished.

  • OldSilk

    Why does this not surprise me? Prayers.

  • Based Snoop Frogg

    Warm up the helicopters.

    • Terroryzing Won

      Top kek

  • Claudia Weil

    Not Antifa, just some crazy gun nut.

    • Terroryzing Won

      wrong bitch

      • Claudia Weil

        Bitch? Where do you get off calling a lady you have never met in your life a bitch? What ever happened to civilized discussions? I don’t know where you get your information, but there is absolutely no evidence that this guy was Antifa.

        • James Krone

          Yes there is. He is an Antifa follower. Or can you not read

          • Claudia Weil

            The only places I’ve seen that report he was Antifa are the right wing conspiracy theory sites.

          • James Krone

            Right off the top you call factual evidence . right wing conspiracy theories. Open your eyes. You don’t have to be ignorant forever. Once you see the truth you will never vote democrat again.

          • pintorider

            Well to you, all right wing website owners/bloggers are conspiracy theorists, right?

          • Claudia Weil

            There are republicans and people on the right who I can respect. It’s the ones who make things up and stretch the truth to get people all worked up (like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Infowars, individual conspiracy theorist bloggers/youtubers, etc.) that aren’t trustworthy.

          • pintorider

            It’s stupid to lump Brietbart in with Alex Jones.

          • pintorider

            I read there was evidence and I also read that evidence was faked. I’m skeptical until I see the evidence myself.

        • MolonLabia

          Sorry CUNT

          • Chezleigh Honolulu

            how do you get a comment like this through?

          • MolonLabia

            Truth finds a way!

          • Claudia Weil

            Oh, you are SO witty. Your mom doesn’t know you’re using her computer, does she?

          • Hannah the French Montana

            Oh damn, that was super witty too. You joked that he was still living at home. OMG that’s super clever. So original.

          • Claudia Weil

            I’m not the one who used four letter words to insult someone I’ve never met, lol.

          • MolonLabia

            Stop liking your own comments. Idiot.

        • Anonymous

          You’ve been trolled… don’t feed them.

          • pintorider

            I guess that’s all there is to it, huh. Thanks. I won’t waste my time.

        • Uncool

          defending Antifa yet again – lets see, you have about 50 comments defending them.

          • Claudia Weil

            Not once have I EVER defended antifa. Maybe in your imagination, but there is not one single comment that I have made that expresses any support with any radical organizations of any sort. Because I don’t. What about you? What organizations do you support?

          • pintorider

            I like Mythicists of Milwaukee a lot…

        • pintorider

          Even though I really, really want this shooter to be a leftist, I see no call for the poor treatment you are receiving. It is unwarranted and wrong. You seem like a very rational, nice and pleasant looking person

        • Terroryzing Won

          No evidence he was a gun nut, he was a pedophile, woman beating, child skull cracking, air force reject, athiest preaching, leftist, whom is clearly photographed and available for your personal viewing on 4chan /pol/ posing with his LAMBA and ANTIFA pals.HE WAS SIMPLY A NUT PERIOD.,…. So don’t gimme that shit because you just believe what you see on the tv or 1 or 2 news articles. They are doing all they can to hide this left wing shit in EUROPE and AMERICA for some reason…. Drink that kool aid all you won’t but don’t preach that shit until ya do your homework. The public is being snowed and sold a bill of goods. While those fuckin dems pawned our country as will be told soon on all channels. Watch and see.

          • Claudia Weil

            Why on earth would I believe something posted by some nutcase on 4chan? We ALL know that that FB page was fake. No one with an IQ of over 100 who is sane believes this alt.right/extremist bull crap that this guy is some kind of rifleman for Antifa. “Atheists” aren’t planning on mowing down “Christians.” There are a lot of different kinds of good people in America, and it’s absurd to think that anyone who isn’t a far right wing Trump supporter is some kind of warrior who wants to destroy OUR country. If you invalidate everything that is reported on the news, and stubbornly believe random rumors posted by conspiracy theorists, that’s your choice. But please leave the sane, peaceful, well-informed 99.99% of the country out of your civil war fantasies. We don’t want anything to do with that crap.

          • Terroryzing Won

            Who are you speaking to?

    • icewords77

      Wrong.

    • catherwood

      looks like antifa, talks like antifa, dresses like antifa…. must be Amish!

      • Claudia Weil

        This sounds like a conspiracy theory. You do realize that there are very few actual “members” of Antifa. Don’t use this as an excuse to target people just because you think they are “liberal” or something, and thus Antifa. Only crazy people shoot up a bunch of people. This guy was obviously crazy.

        • catherwood

          it is a theory at this point, but , based on what we do know about him, seems credible

          • Claudia Weil

            “We”? Tell me, are you an official who is involved with the investigation? Or are you just someone who posts “theories”?

          • catherwood

            I am an official

          • Claudia Weil

            Shouldn’t you be busy working, then? Not spreading rumors on some internet discussion site?

          • john sobieski

            I’m here to see Mrs. Haber

        • Jon

          4000+ Antifa members in the US – 40k+ in Europe.

        • jj333

          lol…judging from your prior comments, you’re an anti-White, anti-male, anti-religion, anti-NRA, Trump hater. In other words, you sound just like an ANTIFA member. No wonder you’re here attempting to deflect the shooter’s possible ties to your politics.

        • darren ruff

          antifa is ISIS

          • Claudia Weil

            No, ISIS is a group associated with Muslim extremists. Antifa aren’t Muslim. Totally different groups. You need to read up on this if you want to understand world politics.

          • beachluver

            They are both terrorist organizations.

    • MolonLabia

      Unfortunately you aren’t dead. Someone should Antifa your ass

      • Claudia Weil

        Wow, you seem to have some anger issues.

        • MolonLabia

          And you seem to be a typical psychotic liberal.

    • Donna Sangster

      geepers I would have bet my last dime that the antifa flag on his FB page was a huge hint

      • Claudia Weil

        Whatever his background, anyone who walks into a building and starts shooting innocent people is crazy. That’s not something normal people do. Whether he was antifa or NRA or whatever doesn’t really make a difference, he was obviously a nut.

        • Justice

          Listen…I’m a veteran. He got court marshaled and a dishonorable discharge for a reason. He is a little leftist idiot who killed a bunch of great people and you…the leftist pos is actually making excuses for him. Just proves my theory of mental illness in this country. .there are actually people like you in that industry..
          I invite everyone to go look at this assholes page. She’s one of those ugly feminist left bitches.
          Hate that shit..

    • ILoveIsrael

      Nice attempt at a spin job,

      However, you’re very much wrong.

      You’re also a liar.

      A liberals are all liars.

      Even you’ll deny being a liar, lie about lying.

      What a joke you guys are.

      • Claudia Weil

        Projection much?

        • Robert Hayes

          What’s your agenda, Claudia?

          • Claudia Weil

            I hate all this garbage, trying to stir things up. I’m afraid that there will be a lot of paranoid gun fanatics who are looking for any excuse to go out and shoot people they disagree with. Leftist crazies, right wing crazies, Muslim crazies, Christian crazies… they’re ALL part of the problem.

    • darren ruff

      WAS antifa…..ignore the leftist nut job above

  • TXMomof2

    Here’s the facebook page for Its Going Down https://www.facebook.com/IGDnews/ The going after churches comment is still on there. Where’s the police to go get this Dave Pollack.

    • Sasak

      Take screen shots and plaster them all over FB and Twitter.

  • John Ham

    IF we had a AG worth any thing Hillary & Obama would be in jail & ANTIFA would be classify as a terrorist group and arrested. BUT we have SESSION a POLITICAN .

    • Nortonchopper

      A blackmailed, castrated politician.

      • Eric Parlin

        I agree – Lately I’ve been wondering if he’s been compromised or threatened.

        • J. Sebastian

          Or just another Swamp Creature.

          • Ryan Miller

            or the fact that its government and government doesn’t solve problems, but you “Conservatives” sure do keep screeching for them to. Limited government my ass, just as bad as Antifa in my book, at least they have the balls to do something about what they preach giving me the opportunity to put a bullet in one.

          • Uncool

            Everyone here needs to report and block you. You are obviously a member of antifa.

          • Leon Foonman M.D.

            And you are a roll of used toilet paper on the side of dirty alley way in Ukraine, now blow away like a swarm of stinking poop.

          • Kazamareen Kurios

            Sounds like you had some experience w/that…just saying, if the shoe fits, wear it. Start a ‘gofundme’ for toilet paper in the Ukraine…

          • Barbara Hennon

            Funny.

          • Rooskie Hacker-Tracker

            Speaking of flags…

          • James Spruyt

            Only the Confederate Battle Flag is capable of killing people. The Blacks and Muzzies are celebrating tonight.

          • John

            M.D. mentally disturbed?

          • Uncool

            I remember you! You are the transgendered that set-up the go-fund me site for your operation. Your name is all over the internets.

          • maribill

            You do know being an antifa is not against the law. We have neo nazis, white supremacists and the KKK walking around killing people.

          • disqus_v3SHzvCspj

            It will soon be, they have declared war on the US, it would be rude for us to ignore that.

          • ClobberDobson

            We do? Where?

          • nikondvr

            As far as I’m concerned it makes you a target.

          • Bruce Darling

            shut the fuck up, you little wimp..antifa cocksucker

          • http://www.drudgereport.com/ CT

            NO, it is critical that we let these people speak. Everyone should know what they are about. What they want is controlled speech, and we cannot let that happen. We are at a critical stage where the Internet is just opening up free speech to a whole new level. The last thing we need is to emulate the worst aspects of the Leftists who want total control and subjugation of the people

          • Joe

            Sober up you braindead piece of trash knobgobbler liberal faggot

          • Randy

            Actually the it’s the liberal left that believe the govt can solve all of our problems.That’s why they want socialism.Personally I believe the govt is the root cause of the problems we have.

          • Leon Foonman M.D.

            Now listen to me, Vlad, we know where you live and it’s not EVEN in North America. Twatwaffles from Mockba, not welcome.

          • Magnus Magnanimous

            Off yourself already.

          • David Redman

            If you served in the military you encountered socialism. Free uniforms, free food, free health care, free housing.

          • Curt B

            It’s not free if you have to work for it. Try again.

          • Angelo Thomas Joseph Marsico

            you obviously didnt you have to pay for it

          • http://wwwcompleatfifer-com.webs.com/ Greg Hernandez

            Free uniforms and food etc. Free for your being on duty 24 hours a day , seven days a week , 11 months a year and subject to call back when on leave , being stationed in wonderful vacation spas like old dew line in the arctic , Niger in Africa , The antarctic , or maybe on a sub for a six month ” Cruise ” under water mostly. , on great ocean liners , flying in great aircraft on canvas seats with overhead air that keeps your neck sweaty and your feet frozen. Healthcare that lied about agent orange and other poisons , A VA that the president has pushed to improve that still has a long way to go…. Yeah , got my freebies and Except for duty in Nam , I paid my income tax on my great pay.
            That is why the great majority of ex-GI’s HATE socialism.
            David , i want to be your agent. A person who actually talks through their rectum. I think I could get you a job on Late night TV with the other idiots.

          • Stafford Wendell

            As a veteran let’s set the record straight. If signing a contract to serve this country and defend it against all enemies. Willing to give your life so America remains free. I think it’s safe to say you never served, but have no qualms about running your mouth.

          • GarthDial

            I lived in Germany for three years so I got to see socialism up close and personal. We’re already at the point here in America that Western European countries were at 50 years ago.

          • MalcontentElder

            I live here now. Just a bit south of Stuttgart, and not as a member of the military. You are exactly right. And laws and systems such as the Value Added Tax, and Agenda 21 and so many many more, have been in place for over 20 years. So we can really see the longterm affect it has on all facets of society. Please don’t let this ever happen to the US!! I’m sitting over here, because I’m in love with a local, but carefully watching the news for when “the balloon goes up” back home too. I’ll be on the first flight.

          • John

            Join up bitch

          • ►Unavailable ◄

            It wasn’t free dumbass we earned it.

          • Proud American

            your an idiot who never served anything evidently from your stupid comments

          • lilolady

            Exception … a whole heck of a lot was expected and required of you in return, including giving your life on the field of battle if commanded by your Commander in Chief. So the better you were, the better your chances of survival …. And remember? All volunteers! Not in the least like your little vision of ‘Socialism/Marxism” is it?

          • disqus_v3SHzvCspj

            In the first days of the USSR they tried to make socialism work in their military, the Red Army where no one was in command and they used voting to determine their actions. It was a Fxxkup.

          • MalcontentElder

            I served for 12 years, 8 of those in the teams. Medicaled out after the first party in the sandbox. I’m sitting here reading what you wrote about the early days in the USSR, and I’m stunned. Shocked maybe is a better word, that anyone would try and run a military like that. hahaha that just amazes me. Thank you for the history lesson. We should strive to learn something new everyday, and I have, so now I can go back to bed…

          • Dan13

            The first year in MA, the Puritans tried to run a socialist system. They damn near starved to death.
            Ironic that just 350 years later, MA is socialist again…

          • Relene Miller

            Your comments about “free” stuff for our military? How dare you complain about free things for the military folks who would put their lives on the line to defend your right to complain, when it’s your freedom they are defending? Many don’t come back and many come back maimed. But hey, they got free stuff, didn’t they?

          • disqus_v3SHzvCspj

            That is the most moronic answer i’ve seen.

          • wx mcpo

            You have obviously never served a day in your life in the military. There is zero free in the military, nothing. I served for 30 years myself and paid for the uniforms I wore, the food that I and my family ate, the health care we received and the house we lived in. I paid for it with both the paychecks I received as well as giving 30 years of my life in defense of our country. I paid for it by standing duty for 24 hours at a time, being deployed multiple times to hostile areas where people wanted to kill Americans for simply being Americans, during those deployments I missed holidays, birthdays, anniversaries, and far more firsts (i.e. first steps, first words, first play, etc..) than I can remember. Those are moments that I’ll never get back. I did it though so you don’t have to, so you can enjoy all those moments and not have to miss them. I did it so you have the right to come onto a message board and speak of things you know zero about. Guess what? I’d do it again even knowing of your total lack of appreciation for those who would willingly lay down their life to make this a better world for you and everyone else in it. Next time before you decide to speak of something you know zero about do a little research. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an idiot than to open it and confirm it.

          • leannimal88

            OMG! You get the award for the Stupidest Comment of the Year.

          • Randy G

            Not even close. If you worked hard and made a good effort to learn your job and study, you moved up the chain. Socialism has nothing in the system to advance based on your merit and drive.

          • Devon Ham

            Actually they work for that stuff. It’s part of the pay for that job that they do protecting your sorry self.

          • Magnus Magnanimous

            That might be the dumbest attempt to argue a position I’ve ever heard. Congrats on your stupidity.

          • nikondvr

            If you think being in the military is socialism, you are an idiot.

          • Barbara Hennon

            Yes. Too much government and the libs want more and more control.

          • Paul Revere

            you aren’t too bright are you? its libtards who screech for bigger government. probably so they can continue to live in moms basement https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba97614c53bf6d21782e5e39c254f5b50bb80b8f3651dbd770adb9e68520049b.jpg

          • J. Sebastian

            What we need is muslim control and koran control. Ban it all.

          • Melvin Miller

            But let Americans kill as many of US as they want!

          • john carter

            Why don’t you be a man and stop pretending to be a victim.

          • oldshortfatboy

            Because it’s easier to be a victim and a wuss.

          • Jayna K Patriot

            Get you get free shit as long as you stay a demorat slave

          • thunderbear

            You should be a man and admit what’s really happening

          • Billy Clayton

            Shut up, you 85-IQ’d chimpanzee.

          • T peace

            Such a loser

          • Claude Jones

            Why are you complaining? It’s Black Americans who are killing Black Americans. Less than .5% of Blacks are killed by whites. The remaining 99.5% are killed by other Blacks. Clean you own house first.

          • smokeshine

            Nothing about this act of terror has anything to do with “Muslims” or the Koran.

          • Partysover

            Ya, “maybe” not this one but most all the other attacks are accompanied with “Allah Akbar” !

          • USMCLt

            No, this one was pulled off by their buddies, the Communists. And it was notable in that they are no longer hiding the fact that they are Communists.

          • smokeshine

            It’s so easy to hate everyone and to hate on command. I don’t choose to live that way. It is spiritual damnation.

          • j frye

            And you know all this information about his back round and inner thoughts and motivation already !!!

          • Partysover

            I totally agree!

          • Scott Malcolm

            This has nothing to do with them. Stay on point.

          • Bob Jones

            Make it illegal for Democrats to own guns.

          • john carter

            Great idea. Dems are always calling for gun control and 99.9% of the time its a liberal that shoots somebody.

          • Tabby Mirauta Bizgan

            I wonder what the shooter is doing right now…oh, right….burning in Hell for all eternity! If conservatives like you say took action, they wouldn’t be any better than the liberal fruitcakes protesting in the streets, damaging property, setting people on fire, and crying to the sky because Trump is president! Don’t worry…there will be a day when our God will bring judgment on every one of these liberal activists who don’t repent! May the Lord bring all those who died today into His Heavenly kingdom! Amen!

          • Desiree Dionne Elia

            Wow so Christian of you !

          • Japhleti

            simple , the 6th commandment THOU SHALL NOT MURDER.

          • Lambie Nicolle Sinclair

            it certainly is. whats the problem?

          • Kazamareen Kurios

            Speaks well of you….try and ‘shame’ the Christian…but, hey ANTIFA robbing, killing…you don’t have a word of ‘rebuke’ you’re just an ‘armchair’ hero…how brave!

          • Greg Tierney

            It’s a fake story. The only part that is true : People got shot in a church in Texas

          • Angelo Thomas Joseph Marsico

            how do you know?? its been verified can you find it? since your the expert

          • MalcontentElder

            are you kidding me???!! You haven’t seen it?? It’s all over the place?? Media everywhere. The guy that was shot, was antifa, we don’t know who the 2nd gunman was yet, but maybe you are the one that needs to “find it” because obviously you’ve been spending too much time in comments and not catching up on the current events.

          • Kazamareen Kurios

            Yep, sure it is…except, as time ticks on, it’s all being verified….he ‘preached’ his atheism online too: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5053013/Devin-Kelley-outcast-preached-atheism.html

          • James Spruyt

            It is Christian. The guilty are punished. The atheist Antifa murderer will burn in Hell for all eternity. For Libtards the innocent are murdered in abortion clinics everyday and it is a “Woman’s Choice”. Those murders will also be paid for in eternity.

          • Brian Dureault

            where is God in all of this? What kind of merciful God would allow such a thing to happen? God….rhymes with fraud. Coincidence? NOT likely

          • Leonards A. Section8

            Ur an f-in asshole.

          • ozzy mo

            Liberals have demanded that God be taken out of our schools, our colleges, our local Governments, etc…And now u ask where is God?

          • maribill

            You are a liar, Dems have not demanded any of that. Try keeping up with what is true and what is rethugs lies.

          • ozzy mo

            U may not like it, or want to admit it, But most liberals detest God and all who proclaim to have any religion at all. So when they force God out of their everyday lives, they can’t seriously be asking, where is God, now?

          • maribill

            You are an ignorant liar, you don’t know fudge about liberals and you are certainly not their judge. Try cleaning off your own back porch, it is full of sin and corruption.

          • ozzy mo

            OK..U have called me a liar twice. It’s a well known tactic of the left to start name calling, when the argument is lost, or they have no facts to back up their stance. It appears to be both with you. I just told you the truth. You don’t have to agree with me. I did not attack you, personally. But you could not resist the hate that came bubbling up.

          • MalcontentElder

            I’m old enough to remember when Dems were proud to call themselves Socialists and were card carrying members of the communist party. But that got too risky and unpopular. So they changed labels to liberals. Then that became unpopular, now it is “progressive”. Same lies, same failed systems, same hatred towards anything conservative, including God. But you just keep trying different ways to repackage the same crap. Most of us don’t want it. Go to Europe where you will be welcomed with open arms. They will love you there. Especially Sweden and Germany. Of course you’ll have to deal with the Muslims, but that’s just part of the package deal.

          • deminthered

            Wow, you know “most liberals?” You must have one hell of a social life.

          • John

            You are wrong we all know it

          • Andy Miller

            Start backing up you statements!

          • http://www.drudgereport.com/ CT

            Yes, because somehow Conservative Republicans demanded the removal of Christian symbols and words from everything even slightly in the public sphere. What planet do you live on, man? C’mon – own up to it! You’re getting exactly what your type wanted, after all…

          • MalcontentElder

            Straight up Bull $hi*. They have been pushing God out with serious dedication since 1961. But God is big and it’s taken this long for them to get this far. But still, you ask where is God in all this? For you conservatives out there, saying “No, it goes back farther than 1961” I know. But in ’61, when prayer was removed from school, you can watch the rapid decline in the moral fabric of society, with each new piece of legislation that was passed, up to the present day. It really goes all the way back to the beginning of the Federal Reserve, passed by a Dem. and the New Deal, passed by a Dem. Removal of prayer from school, and Roe v. Wade passed under Dem. and everything that went completely south under Carter, and then Clinton aka “Slick Willy” and under Obama. and our moral fabric finally tore and got ripped to shreds. and finally we conservatives woke up and said “Enough”, and we organized. And the Dems are scared to death. Soros and Clinton and the powers that be, funding as much chaos as possible, to prevent our message from getting out and reaching others. Afraid that all they have accomplished to tear down the United States, will be lost. Sorry. It’s not going to happen. We are awake now. You’re finally convinced us that you’re not just simply a different point of view, but you are in fact an occupying foreign power and ideal from across the pond. We are slow to anger, and slow to act, but once we do, stay out of the way of the waking giant. Nothing can STAND in the way of an idea whose time has come. One resists the invasion of armies, one does not resist the invasion of ideas.

          • Dan13
          • Mike, Agent of G.H.O.S.T.

            Apparently, not in that church yesterday.

          • ozzy mo

            He was there in the hearts of the Christians..Not so much in the murderer..God will never intervene with your free will and actions..You will be punished for your actions in final judgement, after the law of the land, punishes you.

          • Bartholomew Blunderbuss

            According to the bible, Satan is the lord of this world until Jesus returns, so it isn’t God who “allows” these things. Of course, if you go back to the beginning, man was put in the world sinless, and CHOSE to be disobedient, so the imperfection in this world is the direct result of man’s choosing to allow evil into paradise – you know – “FREE WILL” and all that. If God controlled everything and kept it perfect, we’d all be mindless robots with no choice but to do the right thing all the time. Do you ever read anything but atheistic Marxist propaganda? I mean, whether you choose to believe this stuff or not, if you actually did your homework, you’d know the answers to these stupid questions before you asked them.

          • maribill

            What Bible are you reading, not the Christian Bible.

          • Andy Miller

            Why do you say not Christian Bible?

          • John

            Guess you’ll find out

          • ►Unavailable ◄

            2 comment troll lol. Bye.

          • Brian Dureault

            Nice that you identify yourself as a troll. Buh – Bye

          • RosaAna Gonzalez-Blum

            You should ask those questions… it’s normal to feel anger and let down from God… but it’s not him that cause this evilness but his enemy.
            If I may be so bold and suggest you go see the movie Let There Be Light. Promise to give you the answer.

          • Ced Truz

            The kind that doesn’t care if you die because everyone dies, but also the kind that gave us free will so he could see what we will do with it so he can put us where we belong when we eventually die, which we will all do someday.

          • Dan13

            Rhymes with fraud? Seriously?
            Hahahahahahaha…!

          • Brian Dureault

            Prove to me that this supposed god exists

          • Dan13

            No worries! Give me a word to rhyme…!

          • maribill

            All sins are created equal… God does the judging not you.

          • Desiree Dionne Elia

            Make me laugh there is no eternity .. Mr. Christian calling people names must get your mouth in eternal hell,, And you can bet your sweet ass Repukelicans have abortions too … smh

          • James Spruyt

            Desiree, you have no ability to reason. Your response is incoherent. If there is no eternity, then when will time stop existing?

          • Bruce- Janice Stein

            yes it is if you truly read what the bible says or had the Rhema of Yehovah’s words

          • Kazamareen Kurios

            26 straight shots into heaven…1 shot straight to hell…courtesy of a carrying Texan….courtesy of a guy who grabbed a rife, ran him off the road & killed him..
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5052815/Hero-tackled-armed-shooter-left-church.html

          • 122

            there is no heaven and there is no hell

          • Jeana-Lane Dimmett

            Ignorance isn’t bliss! If you haven’t already accepted Christ as your Savior I implore you to for the sake of your soul!

          • Ben

            And, we have to respect other’s beliefs also because Christ’s true message was that we are all the sons and daughters of God.

          • 122

            F Jesus and F the Christians, I am not a brainwashed idiot like you are

          • Magnus Magnanimous

            Nope, you’re a garden variety, natural born idiot. You needed no brainwashing.

          • Karen Jordan

            Yes, there is. It is up to us to make a choice where we want to spend. Jesus made the way for us to go to heaven but if we reject him then WE made the choice to go to hell.

          • 122

            you are an idiot

          • Barbara Hennon

            To each his own doofus.

          • Magnus Magnanimous

            Not for you, stupid. Well, you do have a shot at one of them.

          • MalcontentElder

            Good. Go ahead and keep thinking that. You’re gonna be quite surprised in the end. I’ll pray for you that you see the light, and get a final trip to the attic, not the basement.

          • 122

            You are an idiot

          • maribill

            I would not personally want to stand before God with that.

          • Kazamareen Kurios

            I guess you obviously never cracked the Bible open…try & open it…IT DOES SAY THAT !!!

          • fllwyrrlgin

            Your god can go suck the fart out of a dead pigs ass you religious nut-job.

          • ►Unavailable ◄

            The tolerant left on display.

          • http://www.drudgereport.com/ CT

            How tolerant and understanding you are! Please, feel free to let us all know more of your… ‘Wisdom’…

          • Magnus Magnanimous

            On behalf of God who is too great to lower himself to your level…go to hell.

          • Barbara Hennon

            Amen

          • RosaAna Gonzalez-Blum

            Amen!

          • maribill

            God doesn’t ask for your political party, he judges on your actions, words and what is in your heart. The trumpsters following along behind their orange leader with hearts full of hatred and bigotry, God will judge that. trump will have a lot to answer for, his actions betray his words.

          • BazzaMcKenzie

            So you know what is in President Trump’s heart! You must be God. On second thoughts, just another bigotted nutter with delusions of omniscience.

          • JWunderli

            We aren’t the ones with hatred and bigotry and all the other things you accuse us of. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true. What’s true is that the libs are far more violent than conservative Trump supporters. Tell me about all the violent protests that we have started vs. all the ones started by the communist / socialist loving left and their terrorist groups antifa, blm, and the rest of the flock.

          • MalcontentElder

            That is not true maribill. God does not judge us on our actions etc. He judges whether or not we accepted Jesus Christ’s gift of salvation. Plain and simple. Accept the gift, go to the attic. Reject his gift, go to the basement. It’s really that simple.

            As for the “trumpsters” as you call them, securing our nations borders, and following the rule of our laws, is not hatred. We aren’t the ones running around causing riots, or open firing on churches, or screaming in the streets to overthrow the government, all pissed off because you lost at the ballot box. If you’ll think back a few years, we lost 2 times at the ballot box during the previous 2 elections. We didn’t run around screaming for the overthrow of the government, starting riots and burning down cities, or standing and blocking traffic on freeways, which caused the death of many people because ambulances and firetrucks and police were unable to do their jobs. No instead we organized and held peaceful protests, and meetings and we called ourselves the Tea Party. and your side didn’t like it that we woke up, and organized, and you gave us crude names like tea baggers, and did violent things in our name, as to soil our reputation. Your side acted in violence, and your side is still doing it. You can only go so far, before we have no other choice, but to react. You won’t like it any more than when we first organized during Obama. In fact a great deal less. The society you are trying to create in the US, already exists in Europe. And Europe is a very beautiful place. Why not go there instead, and no one here gets hurt? No rioting. No bloodshed. No police actions. Only peace. and you will be able to live the way you want. You’ll have what you want. and we’ll have what this country was designed and destined to be from the beginning, and the EU is even bigger than the US. Some say stronger, I don’t agree, but nonetheless, it’s a peaceful option. Why not? and leave us alone. If we’re as bad as you say we are, then our society would collapse in short order, once your balanced opposition is removed from our society. Then you could come back in and remodel it in the ways of Europe.

          • Dan13

            An anti-Trumpster kills and it is the Trumpsters that are full of hate and bigotry…

          • j foreman

            Are you some kind of fuckin’ idiot or do you just play one on SM?

          • Chaz Spaulding

            Pipsqueak snowflake. Piss off.

          • Valerie Ventura

            I’ve reported you

          • Haywood Jablowme

            you are a coward and a cunt.

          • http://bigbrotherradio.com Dr. Detroit

            Little bitch is in Mommy’s basement pleased with himself for riling up everybody. Ignore him. He’ll go back to playing “Gears Of War” and forget all about us.

          • colleen

            Shooting unarmed people in a church is..”doing something”..? Grow up..Gezzz what a cowardly toddler you are..btw..show up at MY church,home, or while I’m shopping, and start shooting at people..your going to get a big surprise I’m always carrying….ALWAYS.I seldom miss either….

          • Jeana-Lane Dimmett

            Colleen, I am right there with you!
            I am a proud Texan, I am truly surprised someone in that Church
            Wasn’t packing. Just saying in our country right now you cannot leave home without it! God bless you and the victims of the horror of hate which killed them.

          • Relene Miller

            So much for Obama’s myth about Bible thumper clinging to their guns, huh?

          • ststis

            Screw you Relene! Up until today, nobody thought these anti-fa pieces of shit would actually attack! Now that they have, the fucken gloves are off!

          • Dr. Hofferrrr

            I believe what they are hiding about the Vegas attack was that the perp was a left winger too.

          • allright

            Yes, this must be the case. They are covering for their ilk. Here we have the worst mass-murder shooting on US soil, ever, and yet the bought and paid for lieberal/progressive/socialist-democrat run msm has dropped it, completely.

          • Claudia Weil

            Right. MAYBE it’s not the #1 news item right now because there are a ton of other really scary, terrible things going on that are being reported on. Stop being so paranoid.

          • allright

            Paying attention is NOT being paranoid.

          • Claudia Weil

            If you were paying attention, you wouldn’t be believing all this far right disinformation. They just want you to get upset at other people instead of noticing that the super rich are getting EVEN richer while the rest of us are scrambling for a little health care or clean water for our kids to drink.

          • allright

            The reason you and I are having this exchange is because I’m paying attention, and you’re deflecting and projecting. Typical lieberal/progressive/socialist-democrat follower. It’s all you’ve ever been and all you’ll ever be. There has never been, nor will there ever be, an original thought reside in your head, ever. There wouldn’t be enough room anyway, Trump lives rent-free in your head right now.

          • Claudia Weil

            Awww, my feelings are so hurt. Some random person on a thread on the internet decided to label me and tell me I’m stupid. Hey, if you want to ever be taken seriously and sound like you know what you are talking about, learn the difference between various political groups. Liberals aren’t the same as socialists, and neither or those are the same thing as democrats. But people who don’t know the difference are looking for an excuse to shoot people who have a different political opinion. Last time I heard, both Democrats AND Republicans were Americans, and are about equally represented in this country. Even if the nutcase shooter happened to be a lefty, which we don’t know, that doesn’t mean half the country deserves to be shot because we are a bunch of anarchy loving, devil worshipping communists. I’m just as patriotic and all-American as you, maybe more so, because I EDUCATE myself about things instead of jumping to conclusions or believing total bull just because it fits into my world view.

          • allright

            I don’t care about your “feelings”, not one bit. In fact, it’s because you and your ilk care more about feelings than logic that puts you and betters in the political predicament you find yourselves in today. Losing. You will continue to lose. Hide and watch.

            You talking about ignorance only highlights yours…maybe more stupiditiy in your case. Lieberal/progressive/socialist-democrats are ALL the same, serve the same masters and march lock-step to the same miserable and deadly end. You should read some history before you attempt to convince the outside world you are an expert (on anything); when clearly you aren’t. Your NPD is showing and will ultimately be the end of you and your lieberla/progressive/socialist-democrat ilk. Buh-bye, snowflake. I’m done with your dumbmass. I don’t have time for fools like you.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            I regret that I have but one upvote to contribute to your struggle.
            I’m too cynical and jaded to try to use facts and logic in discussions with conspiracy mongers.

          • Minority Privelege

            I think its funny that you two fkn idiots are at each other.

          • Minority Privelege

            100%

          • Larry H

            You are a special kinda stupid there arent you boy?

          • allright

            An unemployed, basement-dwelling Soros turd/troll. The best of all worlds. In other words, the feces of mankind. Hahahahaha!

          • Minority Privelege

            You cant hide the fact you left wingfaggots are murdering people bc you cant live normal lives with a cucktard insult like that, can you snowflake?

            Kill yourself before you shoot up the public, commiefaggot!

          • Minority Privelege

            Pathetic comeback, cuck boi, or is it Chief Prepping Bulls?

          • Claudia Weil

            Oh, stop with the absurd conspiracy theories. I am so sick of this. Just because you “believe” that doesn’t make it true.

          • allright

            Methinks Relene is on our side and was disparaging O-stupid’s statument that the right is a bunch of “gun-toting, bible clingers” and again O-stupid’s remarks were proven wrong. The key-word is “myth”.

          • Minority Privelege

            Methinks your a dumbass

          • allright

            Actually, YOU don’t think. Moron.

          • Minority Privelege

            Your gaypunisher skull says all I need to know about how much of a little bish you are.

          • allright

            A “bish” huh? Hahahahahahaha! You’re babbling buffoon and likely have an IQ that’s less than a comfortable room temperature. “Bish” indeed. Hahahahahahaha!!!!

          • Minority Privelege

            Avoiding internet censors, you assfuckingfaggot.

          • orly?

            He said they “cling to their guns and their bibles”. He was pointing out that in their paranoia that the boogieman is going to take ‘Jesus’ or guns away from them, they will vote against their own interests. He wasn’t proven wrong, that’s why we have a Republican majority and Trump in the White House.

          • orly?

            Anti-fa? Is that someone that disrupts your fantasies?
            Shooter’s in-laws attended this church, this wasn’t political, it was personal. Now, dive back down into your dark delusion.

          • pintorider

            I think you are right. It was personal.

          • diablodejalisco

            yep, he was just another crazy right wing nut with a weapon. maybe we should give them all bazookas and maybe they would eventually kill each other off.

          • orly?

            Ooooh, bare knuckles vs. .223! Rumble in the.. oh, fights over already?

            You need to grow out of your ‘antifa’ fantasies, this was yet another white, wife beating gun nut, this time the nut decided to take out his in-law’s church.

          • pintorider

            Don’t know about the gun nut part, but the rest is true enough.

          • orly?

            To be clear, I don’t equate firearm ownership with ‘gun nut’. The ‘gun nut’ is a different animal, they deify guns.

          • Claudia Weil

            Check again. The guy wasn’t antifa. First of all, the “antifa civil war” was blown up and pushed by professional bs artists like Alex Jones and far right conspiracy theorists. Second, except for a clearly photoshopped, phony FB page, there is NO evidence that this guy was antifa. Just accept that this is true and MOVE ON. Stop trying to use this as an excuse to shoot people who don’t agree with you about religion or politics.

          • diablodejalisco

            They all know he was just another one of them, they just don’t want the bad publicity that goes with it. Give enough nuts automatic weapons and this starts to happen every other day.

          • Letthemeatcake

            Sadly, those of us who follow Jesus do not want to have to cling to guns. I recently joined the NRA, will be getting a gun for the first time in my life. At 60, I have been doing a lot to strengthen myself including losing fat (went from pushing a size 18 to a size 4) and going back to the gym. I am a single woman that lives alone and reads the Bible daily, and prays to God for strength and endurance in times when many are possessed by evil and believe they are the epitome of being while disparaging Jesus and His followers. Already, in Africa and the middle east, Christians are being persecuted and slaughtered.

          • allright

            This war in the spiritual world has been raging since the beginning of (human) time. You are right to do what is necessary to protect yourself. Us Christ followers must survive the full frontal assault by lucifer and his demons if we are to continue the ministry of Jesus Christ. Godspeed!

          • pintorider

            This is exactly the type of primitive, medieval thinking that will perpetuate these slaughters.

          • allright

            What do I/you/anyone have to lose if it turns out you and your athesit ilk were right, and this is all “medieval thinking”? Or maybe the better question is, what do YOU and your ilk have to lose if us Christians are right? Hmmm, a true conundrum, huh?

          • Jeana-Lane Dimmett

            Amen!

          • pintorider

            As to your edit: I live in a blue state and have a CCP and a bunch of great guns, old and new. I still have one old horse (age 31) I can shoot off his back with. He’s fearless. Anybody who can get past my dog is welcome to try out my acuity…

          • allright

            That’s great. Good for you. Living life to the fullest – so what happens when the end comes? Are you ready? Have you prepared yourself? Or are you the “one and done” type who believes you die and everything ends? Hedge your bets, what do you have to lose if you’re right? If you’re wrong?

          • orly?

            “Hedge your bets, what do you have to lose if you’re right? If you’re wrong?”

            -A bunch of Sundays having fun out in nature.
            -10% of my income.
            -Rational thought.

          • allright

            So a fraction of a fraction of your lifetime selflessly, versus an eternity of darkness? Whatever you do, don’t go to Vegas you’ll lose your shirt playing those odds.

          • orly?

            15% of my lifetime. Half of my weekend, so roughly 50% of my days off.
            If you’re doing it because you believe it is going to ‘save your eternal soul’ and set you up to have a glorious ‘afterlife’, that’s not selfless, is it? No, not at all.

            Last trip to Vegas I paid for the whole weekend for 2 of us and paid off my car loan with my blackjack winnings. You really do not understand odds and probability.

          • allright

            Is it really YOUR time? So the answers to your dreams is winning enough money to pay off your “stuff”. Ok. Go for it. And re: spending my time enhancing my spiritual well-being is not about earning, or getting, or otherwise buying something. It’s a way of life where I acknowledge that there’s something bigger/better than me in the universe; humility, grace, love. But don’t mistake my grace and caring, you (not you specifically) come for my family and force me to, I’ll send you to the maker myself.

          • orly?

            Yes, my time really is my time. Again you show the defect in your reasoning, you project your thoughts and feelings onto others to ascribe motivations to them in absence of evidence. Operating in absence of evidence is what allows you to have ‘faith’.
            I strongly dislike Vegas, but it’s a convenient place to get together with friends from around the country once in awhile. If I’m there, I’m going to take the casinos for all I can.
            Your words expose you. You consider following Christ “hedging your bet”, that’s not selfless. Deep down you realize this, which is why you threaten violence when your ideas are challenged.

          • allright

            Apparently English is not your first language. Or you’re just another product of the failed govt. school system. Either way, I’m done with your inablity to grasp the reality of the spiritual world all around you. You are obviously out of touch with reality in the physical world because you claimed I “threatened violence”. When you have nothing else, resort to lies. It’s working well for your plantation masters, the lieberal/progressive/socialist-democrats who you so blindly follow.

          • orly?

            “But don’t mistake my grace and caring, you (not you specifically) come for my family and force me to, I’ll send you to the maker myself.”
            What is that, if not a threat of violence? I didn’t say anything about coming for your family, you bleated it out as a complete non-sequitur.

            The ‘spiritual world’ is a construct of the mind, it does not survive scrutiny. Funny you would say it is others who are out of touch with reality, it is others who blindly follow. Yet you claim to live your life following a 2,000+ year old mythology, just to make sure you don’t piss off magic man’s ghost.

          • cusfo

            “That” is not a threat of violence. It is a promise of defense against violence.

          • orly?

            “That’s not a threat, it’s a promise” -every illiterate meathead ever.

          • Hellbound Reaper

            It’s illiterate to not protect yourself. They are not illiterate meatheads. They are sick of the treatment by the left.

          • orly?

            Oh god. I bet you put a ton of effort into that response, didn’t you. Sad.

          • Hellbound Reaper

            you think so? Thanks! you are a sweetheart 😀 Why are you sad? Find something to make you happy. <3 *And Smart-ass remark over*

          • orly?

            Sorry, where did the ‘smart’ remark start???

          • orly?

            Are you offended because you’re an illiterate meathead?

          • Hellbound Reaper

            nope, I don’t get offended..i heard it all actually..been bullied too much that nothing offends me lol :D..I am not illiterate. I am a female. Meatheads are usually what people call buff guys. I’m sticking up for the people who defend themselves legally in this country.

          • Rachel Leah Wade

            Again your opinion stated as fact. My choice to be a Christian in America and I will defend myself and my family from any who try to take my freedoms and choices from me in this great country.My home.

          • Claudia Weil

            Then it is only decent to allow other people to follow THEIR religion, as well. Do you support the right of people who are not Christian to defend themselves if someone tries to force Christianity on them or their families?

          • Hellbound Reaper

            you blindly follow the Liberal “Collective” that preaches hate for people that could have their minds changed for peace. Fear is instilled and more hateful groups form because of this. I am not a Christian but I can tell you that their preachings are harmless. If your mind is too fragile to handle it, then you need to stop following the hate “collective” and follow your own path to peace.. You seem deceived into thinking that Christians are out to get you. They are not the enemy. They don’t hate. They show more concern and passion than any other “collective” I have seen. My best friend is a Christian. You think it’s ok to shoot her? She has helped me through the hardest times of my life. She has the purest of hearts. Christians can follow whatever they like. They don’t run off killing people. They have learned their lesson of the past and hopes their words help others. Most people these days relies on words. There is a reason why it survived for so long. These people have more faith in people than you and I combined. This is why they pray for people in hopes the lives of those people become better. More churches in the US give so much to the needy. They do not deserve someone going into their churches to be shot up. They have the same rights as any to have their beliefs. If you don’t want to be preached to, don’t speak to them period. It’s that simple but everyone always has to try to be “Right”.

          • orly?

            No, nobody deserves to be shot up in church. And seriously, fuck you for implying that I ever said anything of the sort. The rest of your rant is also way off. They preach politics from the pulpit, they force legislation to impose their own religious beliefs on the rest of society. They do hate, they hate the entire LGBT community. If they want their own beliefs,then they should let others have their own too. They still have not learned to live and let live.

          • Hellbound Reaper

            I have been to churches. they only preach the bible and ask for money lol..they don’t hate anyone..they don’t “approve” of LGBT because of what they were taught..they love so much, they tend to interfere and preach to people to “Save their souls”. Maybe one day they will learn to let others have their own beliefs..but I think at this point it’s pure, genuine concern. There are assholes that have polluted it like the greedy tv evangelists. Those were the people trying to stop legislation..the churches really have no say because of the divide between church and state…since evangelists are not really “preachers” (they play one on TV)..they can do whatever they like.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Can you demonstrate “the reality of the spiritual world”?

          • allright

            Can you refute and/or disprove the existence of the spiritual world? So, we’ve gone from Pascal’s Wager to Schrodinger’s Cat. What a paradox we’re faced with.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            I can’t refute and/or disprove the existence of the spiritual world, but I’m not making the positive claim.

            I’ve experienced some spooky stuff that I can’t understand. I know that I have a brain (despite what you may have heard), and I know that brains can invent or misinterpret data. I don’t know if ghoulies, ghosties, or spirits exist.

            Applying Occam’s razor, I’ll leave any unexplained phenomena in the “unexplained” category. I might find an answer some day, but I’m ok if I don’t.

            I may have come on a little strong. Perhaps I should have asked, “What is the spiritual world?”
            Like, how do you perceive it? Can you interact with it? How does it affect the material world?
            On re-reading, my question reads like a challenge, which was not how I meant it.

          • allright

            No worries. I welcome challenging discussions over the childish ad hominem attacks slung by the political “hired guns” with nothing better to do than agitate the (dumb)masses on these sites.

            To me, the spiritual world is the energy that fills the “gaps” between the physical and “unseen” worlds. The places we can’t see, but science (and our senses) tells us is there. The space between the parts of the atom before fusion…or fission. The space between Nancy Pelosi, or Maxine Watter’s ears…all perplexing. All unknowable. All to be revealed, as promised.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Right there with you, friend. It seems like anybody being reasonable here is immediately called things that I wouldn’t say in front of children.

            If I’m hearing you right, these subatomic “empty” spaces leads you to acknowledge that there’s something bigger/better than you in the universe, because they’re poorly understood?
            Can you go into more detail about what the “unseen” world is? Can it be sensed with the typical 5 senses that most people have? Can it meaningfully be described to somebody who hasn’t experienced it personally?

            Don’t get me wrong. I value humility, grace, and love, and you approach them from an angle that I’m unfamiliar with. I have a lot of questions without satisfying answers, and concepts like “spiritual energy” (I know, not your exact words) fascinate me.

          • allright

            Without belaboring this much more, in my very short time here I realize that I not only know nothing, but I would be arrogant and even borderline narcissistic to believe that my answers, thoughts, or guesses are any better than anyone else’s. That said, I’m okay with my “blind” faith.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Good deal. God(s) bless!

          • youmustbeondrugsorsomething

            oh my goodness… you are seriously fucked up…lol. how have you become what you have become… Pride no doubt.. ohh dear….. there is no hope for you… so sad…

          • wvstarktruth

            You need a whole bunch of people praying for you, orly. Perhaps you will awaken before it’s too late. You are truly in for a very big surprise…and not a good one if it happens too soon.

          • orly?

            Yeah? If I’m wrong at least I won’t have to hang out with you nutters for eternity. The god you folks describe doesn’t sound like anyone I’d want to be around either.

          • Rachel Leah Wade

            Just as its your right to choose your beliefs and to choose to marry or stay single. In America Christians believe in everyones right. In other countries people are being killed for their choices. They dont have the freedoms we have in America.

          • orly?

            “In America Christians believe in everyones right.”
            LOL, sure, they believe in everyones right to do as they say and obey christian rules.

          • Tom1958

            Not always true man. My best friend is atheist, as well as many others. We do our thing and respect each others rights. Religion almost never comes up, and I’m not trying to change them or them me. Not all Christians are religious nuts. Not all of us are judgemental assholes either. I also don’t pretend to be a perfect person. I drink, raise hell, and ride in a club. I believe in God. But you could know me casually for years and never know that. I’m not ashamed, I’ve just seen how it turns people away. You just haven’t met any cool ones yet.

          • Reginald P Sloane

            you sound pretty luke warm dude…read the book of revelation and see what God does to luke warm people…… lol…lift your game dude…you are at this point in time from what you have said…on your way to hell.. hell is hot…hell is forever…..

          • Bettergetreadypeeps

            Obey Christ’s rules or you go to hell….. that’s how it works…whether you like it or not…that’s how it works…… heaven or hell…you choose either way….. THATS HOW IT WORKS..no escaping the rules…….THATS HOW IT WORKS..it really is that simple..

          • orly?

            May the Force be with you.

          • bewareofoldlady’scalledDIANA

            Careful what you wish for dickhead…lol..it may be sooner than you think..lol..

          • orly?

            Yawn.

          • Seeker333

            You have never had a thought let alone a rational one.

          • orly?

            Damn, that’s a sick burn, for a first grader. Remember, little buttercup, god hears all of your unholy thoughts.

          • Rachel Leah Wade

            A personal attack huh? That really helps.

          • Seeker333

            You are welcome

          • scott

            climate change is big business,if I was being paid research grant money to study nothing,I would do it too.fact is,these so called climate jerkoffs depend on govt grants to live. if the govt offered me 150k a year to say I am studying something and agree with what they want to hear,yeah,I will do it too. Al Gore said in 2001,NYc would be underwater in 10 years,well,its 16 years later,Manhattan still is not underwater,and gore bought more beachfront property.If he is so worried about floods,why not move further inland?

            meant at Orly

          • Rachel Leah Wade

            That in its self is a religious mindset. A relationship with God doesnt take place in a church. It takes place in the heart. Church is just a gathering place for Christians.

          • Tom1958

            Without a doubt. My best Sundays spent with God is when I’m on my Harley riding way out in the open country where all of his glory still exists untouched for the most part.

          • alwaysdriveonthecorrectsideof

            not even real Christians it seems…..

            All the heathens are asking the question……. Why did God let this happen.. then the info comes to light…that church was>>> can you believe this….”celebrating Halloween” the week before the demon possessed freak let loose with the big guns…. yes believe it or not they were… celebrating a demonic event…..so there you have your answer…..kinda intense the preachers daughter was one of the slain…note to self so called Christians…… it is not ok to celebrate Halloween…it is not just a “bit of fun”…….. it is an “abomination” to God.. just the same as homosexuality….. it is NOT… I repeat NOT ok to be a part of Halloween ..Halloween is evil shit.. it is NOT just a “bit of fun”……

          • http://www.pagaansdesigns.com Pagaan Place

            okay, now that was a bunch of “TOO CRAZY”… where do you people get your crap from…? Halloween? That was the problem, really? Really? I’d laugh if it wasn’t so sad…

          • J. Sebastian

            That’s my biggest problem with organized religion – it is an insult to any pure notion of spirituality. It has to be about the individual, not dogma. The fact that organized religion relies on obedience and tithing (ie, power and money) reveals it as a scam, no matter what flavor it comes in. Its no different than the Global Warming goons: you must BELIEVE, and you must PAY, or you’re an uneducated rube that hates the planet. Same damn racket.

            And its just as unproductive and pointless. If religion were valid, it would produce something we could use or at least observe. But you can’t get something from nothing. So that’s why it is unproductive. (and ironically that is also why the idea of a supreme being that created the Universe is ludicrous. Where did it come from? What created *it*? These problems with Creationism lead only to the recursive mousetrap of cause and effect and violations of natural laws. The very idea of God as Divine Creator spawns absurdity after absurdity, unless you fence it in to something rational, like the Universe is a simulation, and we live in a computer, and God is actually just an alien programmer from a more advanced civilization. That is far more credible than God just magically popped out of nowhere, and no-when and created the Universe and humans just to stop dudes from sticking their wangs in each other and doing other things that he finds “offensive”. Please. You have GOT to be kidding. Do people not really grasp how insane that sounds? What would be the point of all that?)

            If there really is a Supreme Being that created this world and us, as Western Religions would have us believe, the only way to achieve credibility would be some kind of a direct “reveal”…not some book written by a human. Why is it that God only chooses to reveal himself to these dead and dusty “prophets”? Why the middle man? Why the cadgy behavior and hidden meanings and complicated and complex texts? Why are there never any contemporary direct reveals, only ancient third and fourth-hand accounts and tales? Why would any supposedly omnipotent and rational being instead choose blind “faith” as the mechanism for reaching his creations? And what in the heck would be the point of such a scheme anyway? Why would an omnipotent being care about who lieth down with who and whether people use his name in vain? Are we really supposed to believe that a Supreme Being has all the human foibles and personality quirks of narcissism and anger and petty vindictiveness? If “faith” had any future utility or purpose that could be observed, my attitude towards it would possibly be different. But there is ZERO EVIDENCE of this.

            I can’t subscribe to any creed that pre-supposes such a weird oddball scheme is really the product of a Supreme Being….when all the evidence points to it being the product of ordinary crappy human beings and their petty psychological problems and hangups:

            People are afraid of dying, so they invent this idea of life after death. Its pathological.
            People are afraid of being someday held to account for all of the bad things they have done, so they invent the idea of divine forgiveness, some entity that will always love them no matter how much of a bastard they have been.
            They’re afraid of other people, whom they know to be sometimes sadistic murderers and rapists and thieves, so they invent the idea of a supernatural judicial system that will properly and eternally punish them, that they hope will scare miscreants into behaving themselves.

            NONE of these things “work” or have EVER been observed to exist. This is sheer lunacy, or wishful thinking. It’s nutty. (I’m trying to be kind…but its hard to be both honest and non-offensive).

            Anyway, to all of that I say, NO THANKS.

            So, no I do NOT want to talk to you about Jesus (or any other deity). Do not ring my bell, do not knock on my door, do not leave me some literature. I don’t care about ANYTHING another person has to say – if god wants to talk to me, he surely has a better and easier way than sending these zealots around to pester me. If god exists, he knows I’m typing this right now, and he could reach out and communicate with me and convince me instantly of his existence.

            And on that note, has ANYONE ever been converted or made religious by these door-to-door religion peddlers? I can’t imagine it. It baffles me why they keep at it. Most people that I know close their blinds and pretend to not be home when they see these waifs coming up the street. Even people that are already themselves religious!

            Now, that being said …if YOU choose to believe , then go right ahead. It is your life to waste however you choose, and if you want to spend it memorizing gobbledygook from the bible and singing and praying, that’s on you, so have at it. No skin off my nose. I also don’t wish you ill because of your choice. I do wish people would instead spend their limited time in more productive concrete endeavors. Clean up a creek, or plant a tree, or grow their own food. Almost any productive activity would be better than going to sit in a room listening to people repeat dogma and make up even more dogma on the spot.

          • orly?

            You don’t have to ‘believe’ that global warming is happening, you could analyze the data and come to the conclusion on your own. Science vs. mythology.
            Damn, this site really draws all the winners.

          • J. Sebastian

            Oh, there might be some warming, that is to be expected, coming out of an Ice Age and reverting eventually to the mean historical global average temperature (we’re between 11 and 12C right now, but the historical average is about 17C, so we’re colder than “normal” and warming is to be expected given where we are in the “cycle”).

            The problem is its got very little to do with the increases in trace greenhouse gases.- and temperature increases precede increases in atmospheric CO2. The CO2 just adds some feedback, through “forcing”, that is the only impact.)

            Otherwise, CO2 is just food for plants, which means more food for animals, like us.

          • orly?

            No, sorry. CO2 and other greenhouse gasses are the cause of the current warming. It’s not the sun, it’s not normal fluctuations, it is human caused greenhouse gasses. Even the new report from the dRump administration says so.

          • J. Sebastian

            Correlation does not prove causation. If you center all your research on one theory then sure everything is going to reinforce that.

          • orly?

            Sorry bub, actual climate scientists agree, the white house agrees. Feel free to put forth your own theory, it’s already been debunked.

          • scott

            By using the energy of sunlight, plants can convert carbon dioxide and water into carbohydrates and oxygen in a process called photosynthesis. As photosynthesis requires sunlight, this process only happens during the day. We often like to think of this as plants `breathing in carbon dioxide and `breathing out oxygen.Mar 8, 2012
            so,if plants use co2 gas,how can it be bad?

          • orly?

            Nice copy and paste. The ‘energy of sunlight’ is longwave radiation which penetrates our atmosphere and hits the earth (yes scotty, some of it is used by plants for photosynthesis, you’re such a smart boy!). What is reflected back from the surface of the earth is shortwave radiation. Shortwave radiation is absorbed by CO2 and other so called ‘greenhouse gases’. The more CO2 (or CH4, N2O, H20 and others) in the atmosphere, the more shortwave radiation that is absorbed, increasing the temperature of the atmosphere.
            Here is a study guide that might help you, it is designed for K-12 students: http://climate.ncsu.edu/edu/k12/.LWSW

          • Ace

            Whoa. A completely rational person. You should be on Ellen.

          • pintorider

            And, I’venbeen married to the same great lady for 30+ years, andI’m one hell of a wicked musician also: piano, guitar, bass, ukelele, Glory to God!

          • allright

            I wasn’t blessed with a talent for music, or art or political BS. However, I use my gift for teaching self-protection and precision shooting to find and train those who are either unwilling (at first) or don’t know how to protect themselves from the wolves (evil) in society. I’m a USN veteran, a certified CHL/LTC/NRA instructor and an active member in IDPA where I shoot competitively; when I have spare time, I give it freely with the goal of helping as many people as possible keep from becoming a victim…even if/when that means using deadly force and how to be prepared for the psychological scars that will come with taking a life.

          • pintorider

            Thank you for your service and I love the fact you teach gun use and safety. I had a buddy who shot long range competitively and when we were on the road, he’d weight out powder loads, look at range tables, etc. He even molded some of his own ammo. That’s a fun activity to get involved with.

          • HAL CASEY

            just the satisfaction that we werent bamboozled by some sleight of hand tricks by a ‘messiah’ back when they thought the Earth was flat.

          • Tom1958

            Atheist, yet will send dozens of chain emails and memes for good luck or fortune.

          • Larry H

            Primitive, medieval? Seems to me that you sir are the one who is primitive. When you cant even see that you never get nothing from nothing. Since that is scientifically correct how else do explain not only the world we live in but the whole universe and beyond. I(t had come from somewhere did it not? With that in mind I ask for you to prove that something came from nothing.

          • orly?

            “you never get nothing from nothing”
            That’s not ‘scientifically correct’. At all.
            While science has yet to explain the precise origin of everything, jumping to the conclusion that some magical being, with magic powers that have never been observed before, defies logic and doesn’t answer the question, it creates a bigger one. Where did magic man come from?

          • pintorider

            At least science is designed to allow for new evidence and the discarding of old theories when they prove untenable. Religion can’t do this.

          • HAL CASEY

            wow good point, who created God??? And if someone says ‘he always was’ then the same could be applied to the Universe.

          • wvstarktruth

            Matter is neither created or destroyed. It can only change forms. That is a basic scientific premise. But I question how anyone can deny the existence of God the Creator as nothing in the universe is inconsistent with scientific laws regarding matter, order, and consistency. Once does not create an infinity universe with as much order as there exists without something other than random accidents driving it. Anyone who looks out the window with any understanding of how many things are interdependent in that view and does not believe in God are willfully blind or have been living without the light of day reaching their consciousness.

          • orly?

            “Matter is neither created or destroyed. It can only change forms. That is a basic scientific premise.”
            Correct, ergo it is incorrect to claim “you never get nothing from nothing”. That is a false statement, you will always get nothing from nothing.
            English and critical thinking are not your strong suits.

          • pintorider

            I’m totally atheistic about the god of the Bible and agnostic as to a “Divine Creator” of some sort. But I’m open to the idea. Give me something beside ancient myths and legends we know can’t possibly be taken literally and were written by men who never intended to write history or biography.

          • Gwen Sellars

            Larry H. Just in following history, if you read the Bible, you will see it told the story of our history before it happened.
            So just the book itself has proven true. But, I want to share a miracle that happened to me. I know you don’t know me and why would it matter, but I still think I should share.
            When I was 11, I was very sick. If I had stayed in that condition for very long, I would have died. My mother took me to a local prayer meeting and I went forward for healing. When the pastor and congregation started praying, I felt the most amazing bolt of electricity go through my body, it didn’t hurt, but it scared an 11year old girl. Before I could think, I heard a voice speak to me in my mind…He said, I’m healing you, I’m blessing you. Then it slowly left…I was so young, but in my mind I recognized God, and I said more Lord.
            Well, He did heal me completely that night. I’m 61 now. I still love Him for my good days and bad days.
            I hope I’m not sounding hokie to you, but…God has proven Himself throughout time and He just wants us to ask Him in and have faith that He will be there.
            God isn’t magical, and the man or men that chose to kill yesterday, it was their choice. People live and die every day.
            Our God said it wouldn’t be easy, but He promised eternity with Him …. No more pain, tears…sounds too good to be true…but there is never any harm in faith….the part that I choose for myself is to love everyone and watch and wait while witnessing about my God.
            Thank you Larry.

          • Rusty Merrill

            You are a true Christian woman.. I’ll give you that.. very few wouldn’t have just attacked him for not believing their point of view.. and that my dear is why less people are Christian’s..

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            I’m glad that you were cured, and continue to live well.
            Might I ask what afflicted you?

          • wvstarktruth

            OH, right…so we just roll over and play dead when these haters come to call? Forget that. Christians should be preservers of life, but when innocent lives are threatened, they should err on the side of the innocent. I supposed you think those people should have just waited for the cops to save then. Not happening. There or anywhere else. When seconds count, cops are just a few minutes away.

          • Seeker333

            Moron.

          • Rachel Leah Wade

            A true American is a true American & will always stand for what is right over what they would like to b right

          • pintorider

            Most decent and moral people prefer right over wrong. That’s normal and that’s not what creates true “American Exceptionalism” which is a real, tangible thing, regardless of the cat calls from the leftists and jealous non-Americans. You know those guys that hate America so much they risk their very lives to get here…

          • Claudia Weil

            Who gets to decide what is right?

          • Ace

            If medieval thinking bothers you, you must really be ecstatic about modern “thinking.”

            Have you decided what “gender” you are? Do you worship abortion? Do you worship the state and foreigners? Do you hate your own people and your ancestors? Do you worship government? Do you attend “spirit cooking” dinner parties and engage in pedophilia? Do you worship Muslims? Are you utterly ignorant of what Islam is? Do you reject the Constitution as something silly and antiquated?

            That razor-sharp modern mind with those finely-tuned moral sensibilities!

          • pintorider

            Actually “Ace,” the US Constitution is my bible and all the legal and moral advice I’ll ever need. I’ve been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and served as a civilian for the US Navy. I am well acquainted with Islam and an amateur expert on early Christianity.

            I voted for President Trump and fully support most of his policies. I abhor abortion as it is the murder of the most vulnerable.

            I bet you’re a “christian.” LOL

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Red guy? Cloven hooves? Bit of a brimstoney odour?

          • allright

            No, more of a droopy eyed, evil old codger who uses his billions to adversely effect global markets and the destiny of the lives of millions, if not billions of citizens across the globe; apparently you know him well, mike.

            http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/george-soros.jpg

          • allright
          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Well, actually, only Droopy can save us from the wolves (evil) in our midst. Take this photograph, please.
            https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/0081/products/Droopy-Cartoon_1024x1024.jpg

          • allright

            Do NOT confuse Droopy, with Mr. Droopy eyes…

          • Hellbound Reaper

            I am the type that believes all religions (Except Islam..not a religion but a radical ideology) are the key to humanity. Pieces to life’s puzzles. Which would be seen as Pagan perhaps. But if there is a physical war, I would always take the Christians side and help protect. My best friend is Christian as well. You can’t save these people unfortunately. Appears wartime is almost upon us. :/

          • allright

            Indeed.

          • 8540win

            Jesus certainly didn’t advocate clinging to guns, but there is that little verse….Luke 22:36. IMHO, self defense is an entirely different matter.

          • onceagainyouarewrongagain

            I think from memory he told people to buy a sword….. probably because they had no guns back then… so I guess as usual you are wrong again….. as usual.. you are not often right… once again you are wrong again

          • zipper

            Some years back, firearms were not primarily considered for self-defense. Mostly, they were owned for the shooting sports, or collecting. Only in the last few years has the concentration been shifted to self-defense.
            I don’t want to dissuade you from SD carry, but since you’re beginning, do consider using a gun for other than that purpose. There are Many choices out there- from Benchrest to Skeet to IPSC.

          • NeoBlackdog

            And IDPA! Especially IDPA!

          • allright

            Yes, been a competing member for years. Excellent bunch of people.

          • bewareofoldlady’s

            how about I shoot you in the foot and see if that doesn’t change your pissant attitude…bang fuken bang dickhead…

          • zipper

            You’re obviously out of your mind(or on drugs) and are not the type we want to be around guns, much less have one.

          • pintorider

            Yeah, what a moron for threatening to shoot somebody on the internet, especially given the topic we are commenting upon. Perhaps he doesn’t know his exact location can be traced through his IP address.

          • HAL CASEY

            how did you get a firearm with that mentality/temper?…you sound like a ‘loose cannon’, pun intended.

          • Gene C Clark

            just shut the hell up you moronic troll

          • willnkc

            Are you really that dumb? I’ll just say that your entire post is nonsense and completely moronic.

          • allright

            And then you would be proven the “dumb and completely moronic” one, without a doubt.

          • zipper

            If you don’t agree with my statements, I would welcome a friendly argument. But, to just toss insults and offer nothing in the way of counterpoint marks you as being truly stupid.

          • allright

            To IDPA, USPSA, NRA Shooting Sports, etc. Many, many to choose from.

          • Lord of the Gulf Stream

            That’s why I usually carry a SWORD, and I know how to use it. Never runs out of ammo.

          • zipper

            Swords are cool; I have two katanas myself. But, how do you ever walk around with one? Cannot do that where I live, even with good gun laws here. One of my goals is to learn how to throw a ‘hawk. They actually have competitions and make special ‘hawks just for those events. It’s quite impressive over what distance some of those guys can “stick it.”

          • andthepointis???

            oh my goodness.. you moron…..lol… you watch too much television.. you have been programmed

          • zipper

            Making a stupid, irrelevant, & unrelated comment like that marks YOU as the moron! I don’t watch TV, nor have I been “programmed.” Go back to your video games and stfu.

          • zipper

            And as an update for a clueless fool(that’s you), Texas just passed a law legalizing open-carry for swords & knives. I can hear you choking on your words; good!

          • ReadyourBiblewhileyoustillcan

            Keep reading your Bible..I do..its the only thing that keeps me clear minded and level headed…..

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            The gentleman who killed three people in a Colorado Walmart spent most of his free time reading bibles.
            He allegedly had 5, and no other books in his apartment.

          • pintorider

            Except…Jesus is a myth.

          • Larry H

            I will pray for you pinto.

          • pintorider

            Thanks, Lar. I bet you’re a decent guy.

          • allright

            What do I have to lose if it turns out you and your atheist pagan brethren are someday proven right, and this is all just “primitive, medieval thinking”? Or as things in this material world worsen, the better question becomes, what do YOU and YOUR unbelieving brethren have to lose when we Christians are proven right? A true conundrum, to be sure.

          • pintorider

            I’m not an atheist and I’m not a pagan. It’s just that there is zero evidence for “Jesus” outside religious ones. Fake ossuaries and interpolated passages do not qualify. There’s no conundrum. Religion is not needed to live a decent, moral life. It’s just a business and sometime a political ideology.

          • allright

            Again, what if you’re wrong? A betting man would, at the very least, hedge his bet. Arrogance is exactly why lucifer fell.

          • orly?

            Why don’t you sacrifice goats to Zeus? Hedge your bets!

          • pintorider

            That’s called “Pascal’s Wager.”

          • allright

            I’m familiar with it; I spelled it out for those who may not be familiar…hopefully in an understandable way. Philosophy can be so confusing, just ask Confucius.

          • pintorider

            Philosophy is a lot less complicated than theologies.

          • pintorider

            All your sources are from believers who have a vested interest. Religion is a business. I suppose you’ll pull out Lee Strobel next…

          • allright

            Not all sources…besides, I believe, therefore I am.

          • pintorider

            Which ones are not? Even the encyclopedia references are written by believers

          • orly?

            Uh, a person can’t be atheist AND a pagan. That’s just daft.
            Things worsen, like this situation, and people like you resort to ‘thoughts and prayers’. That’s not going to improve anything.

          • allright

            Uh, you’re absolutely wrong. Furthermore, don’t think for a second that those of us who are Christ followers and Christians will stand by if we’re being attacked. There are plenty sheep dogs who are Christians and will look out for the little guy; if you’re a wolf, beware and afraid.

            Pagan – a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.

            Atheist – a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

            Who’s “daft” again? You don’t know me, even a little.

          • pintorider

            You just proved Orly’s point.

          • orly?

            Atheists don’t worship anything. Pagans do. Diametric opposites.
            I didn’t say anything about jesus freaks standing by if under attack, I said that thoughts and prayers accomplish nothing.
            I fear not the sheep dog, because I’m not hunting sheep.
            You read, but you don’t think.

          • HAL CASEY

            back in the day Christians slaughtered the Pagans because of their insecurity that not everyone thought like them. Turned me off right there, I knew religion was BS dreamt up by weak minds.

          • allright

            The weak mind belongs to those who are so arrogant and/or narcissistic that they believe there couldn’t possibly be anyone or anything bigger, better or wiser than themselves; not in all the vastness of the universe. As a result, the weak-minded are fools who must cling to their worldly possessions and idol worship at the altar of celebrity and fame in hopes they can someday fill the spiritual void that they can’t even begin to understand. Good Luck with that!

          • HAL CASEY

            Sorry but to me a weak mind is one who doesnt believe in science. Anything can be explained given enough time. The truth is out there, and not from an old book of wives tales re-written countless times to suit different individuals who although wise, were still mortals. Recently someone begged the question, if God created everything, who created God? And if the answer is ‘He always was’, then that can be applied to the Universe.

          • allright

            You obviously know much less about the Bible than you think you do…I’m tired. You’re lost and until YOU want something different, you’ll always be lost. God Bless You.

          • HAL CASEY

            I am sorry you are tired, but thats what happens when you end up in a dead end argument. I was brought up a Catholic, and received my 1st Communion, along with much Religious Ed., so I know enough about it to comment. It was fine when I was a child, not so much now. Just answer the question, who created God, at least to yourself…peace be with you

          • allright

            I’m not a Catholic. I don’t believe in the Catholic doctrine of “earning your way to heaven”. As a Christ folloer, I believe that everyone who asks to be saved is saved by the grace of God/Jesus, who died on the cross so that ALL our sins would be admonished. Maybe ths is where/why the “church” blurred your vision of Jesus Christ our Savior. But wherever it happened, your beliefs have been polluted by the evil one.

            And don’t get me wrong, I’m not tired because of the argument, just who I”m arguing with. I know I should stick it out and continue to minister to the non-believers, but at some point we’ve got to move on when we find minds so closed they’re willing to endure eternal damnation instead of following the easy path to redemption. Obviously, you are free to believe what you like, but no one lives forever…in their human body. Where do you plan to spend eternity?

            God has always been, and will always be.

          • deminthered

            admonished?

          • allright

            Yeah, I considered the word choice after remembering where I was posting, and unless the reader looks at and uderstands the deeper meaning of “admonish”, in this particular context, it could easily be mininterpreted. The better word(s) would probably have been “Forgiven, or maybe “purged”, or even “taken back”.

          • allright

            And the Egyptians the Jews, and the Mongolians…well, everyone in their path. And the French their own subjects. And the islamists, anyone who didn’t believe in their favorite pedophile…so what’s your point, really?

          • HAL CASEY

            You just made my point….the simple fact that there is more than one religion negates ALL of them….

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Are you really pulling out Pascal’s Wager?
            What if you’re wrong, and Hindus/Muslims/Sikhs/etc are right?

          • allright

            Then I will have missed a lifetime of Chakra therapy, innocents beheadings and the many levels of physical relaxation and the repulsive stench of curry, instead of eternal damnation. I can live with that.

          • Can’t stand the nonsense

            Nope. There is strong evidence outside of the Bible proving Jesus’ existence. Pontius Pilate had a biography written and in it is the account of Jesus.

          • pintorider

            There NO evidence outside the Bible or religious sources. Nothing whatsoever. There is no”Pontius Pilate” biography. Very, very little is known about him. Several forgery of that sort are fairly common, though. You might want to investigate the term “mythicism.”

          • allright

            You may want to dig a little deeper. You are being blinded and don’t even know it.

          • pintorider

            I have dug very, very deep. That’s why so many Bible scholars become non-believers.

          • orca

            if you are a bible reader read luke 22:36
            36“Now, however, He told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one.
            and what was in the old testament
            Nehemiah 4:17-18
            17Those who were rebuilding the wall and
            those who carried burdens took their load with one hand doing the work
            and the other holding a weapon. 18As for the builders, each wore his sword girded at his side as he built, while the trumpeter stood near me
            as was in the old testament Jesus commanded we be armed

          • Deborah Brown

            Christians have been persecuted in the middle east for a very long time. This isn’t anything new. But, what is new is Trump & Pence have issued an executive order that our money that would’ve gone to the UN for moslem immigrants will now be used to save these Christian refugees! I’m so thankful to our new administration, and so excited that I’m bout to bust wide open! Finally a POTUS with some common sense and a Vice president to match! God bless them and their families, plus these new refugees that will assimilate easily into our culture and lifestyle here in the USA!!!!

          • Claudia Weil

            Why should American tax payers’ money be used for one religion over another? That’s not what America is about.

          • Minority Privelege

            Kill yourself

          • allright

            You’re and illiterate idiot. Exactly the types the antfia are talking about when they speak about the “alt-right”. Run away, hide before you melt, snowflake. Buffoon.

          • Minority Privelege

            “You’re and illiterate idiot”
            Says the White guilt cuckold. Getfuctfaggot

          • allright

            Can’t even spell “privilege” correctly with a built in spell checker on Disqus and you want, no, expect someone, anyone to take you seriously? Really? Oh yeah, your use of “old English” adjectives would indicate that you don’t even live in the USA, so GFY loser. Your mommy and daddy should ask for their tax dollars back, because your govt. school teachers failed you, miserably.

          • Minority Privelege

            Cant refute me so you stoop to lame ad homs.
            GAYpunisher skull homo.

          • robert owen

            You are an idiot!

          • Minority Privelege

            Kill yourselffaggot

          • Claudia Weil

            Stop being such a hostile jerk, go educate yourself about the subjects you are so angry about, and THEN learn how to have civil discussions that don’t involve threats, nasty names, and unfounded accusations.

          • Minority Privelege

            Hows about fuckyourself!

            Take muh education and cram it. You arent dictating whats acceptable anymore,faggot

          • Claudia Weil

            You sound like an angry 8 year old. If that’s the way you want to present yourself to the world, go for it. Education isn’t something people “dictate,” it’s a lifetime privilege available to anyone who wants to become more knowledgeable. Not my problem if you see it as a punishment, but, then, don’t expect anyone to take your opinions seriously, either.

          • Minority Privelege

            Lol@muh education

            You pathetic rejects talk about ed joo cayshun as if you actually own it.

            Its PATHETIC.
            Not a single being on this entire planet is ever impressed by some idiot who leads off with “one time, I was in school….”

            Just kill yourself you retard.

          • Claudia Weil

            Lol, the point isn’t to impress people, it’s to actually know what you are talking about, to understand problems in the world, to help get through difficult situations. No one is ever “done” learning. It’s not about “owning” knowledge, it’s about sharing it. People who won’t listen to new information and try to learn from it shouldn’t blame others for being stuck in the dark. Some of us might even learn from you if you would share your point of view instead of just calling people names.

          • Minority Privelege

            Your concern trolling is impressive.
            Get educated.

          • orly?

            Looks like they’re still clinging to them.

          • Barbara Buchanan

            Thank God one “clinger” had his rifle so he could stop the deranged democrat from killing even more people. We still own our guns and we still use them responsibly and in defense of human life. YOU have an issue with that. You are the problem. Sit down.

          • orly?

            I also own my guns. If I didn’t, they wouldn’t be my guns.
            I have no issue with self defense, but I also think our gun laws can incorporate more common sense.
            You’re an angry person, Barbara, so you try to set me up as a straw man you can take down. Sorry, not happening.

          • Barbara Buchanan

            I’m not angry at all but you are. Hence the figure pointing you had to do to try and redirect from your own anger. I provided logic for your false and illogical comment. That made you mad. Not my issue. Not my problem. Guns owners do not cling to their guns, They cling to their Constitutional rights. As near as I can tell by your attitude, you should not own guns. Sit down straw man before you fall down trying to twist your way out of your own words.
            Since you lack commonsense while thinking there is such a thing as common sense gun laws, versus common sense mentally ill laws, let me leave with common sense. POEPLE HELL BENT ON MURDERING OTHERS DO NOT OBEY LAWS! IF THEY CAN NOT GET A GUN, THEY WILL RENT A TRUCK! Not yelling. I just wanted the common sense to stand out since I know you’ll just scan my reply. Now go turn your guns in. The church shooter was denied a gun. He broke your gun laws to get his guns. Laws do not stop murderers and criminals. It’s illegal to kill people but he killed people in spite of that law. Turn your guns in. It’s people like you who own guns that worry me.

          • orly?

            Calm down, Barbara, you’re so upset, angry and irrational that you can’t spell or write a coherent paragraph.

            1. Where did you see he is a democrat? Just curious, I have not seen that reported.

            2. I’ve never lived, voted nor legislated in Texas, so he didn’t break any of “my” gun laws. I read that he was denied a TX carry permit, but did not see anything about him being prohibited from purchasing a firearm. Even if he had, due to the huge loopholes in the law, he could have easily purchased an arsenal from private sellers.

            3. “common sense mentally ill laws” Uh, okay. It’s hard to get a point from your raging rant, but you do know that Trump made it easier for people with mental illness to acquire firearms, don’t you?

            4. States that have more lax gun laws have higher rates of gun violence. Whatever ‘common sense’ it is that you think you’re using, isn’t.

          • diablodejalisco

            deranged democrat? In Texas everyone is deranged. They planned it that way. you want guns, you get to play with guns, such fun. Republicans love killing things. Whether its animal or people, they don’t care.

          • Gladys Bacon

            Arm all our churches and have regular target practice…It is needed right now…Every church to have a gun at the ready and a good shot.

          • MrClean417

            Churches, schools, malls, movie theaters, If they’re not going to have any common respect for people we can always drill them with it. One bullet at a time.

          • Bob Jones

            I am a firm believer that there should be at least 3 trained and armed staff in every public school. I can’t believe anyone would be against that, but they are.

          • diablodejalisco

            And, would you call that freedom? I have been in schools that had security like that and its not good. Its run like a prison. Everyone that enters is questioned and searched. Fear is not freedom.

          • ststis

            Pussy!

          • Wizard

            I love the smell of irony in the morning.

          • Dan13

            Not in my school. We have staff on hand + two SROs. Everyone goes about their business…

          • TRStrunk

            All teachers should be allowed to be trained and armed. As far as freedom goes. Children in school don’t need to have their freedom. They are children in school to learn. They can have their freedoms once they graduate and become adults. As of right now everyone in grade school young and adults are nothing more then people awaiting to be victims of some one wanting to make a statement.

          • Minority Privelege

            Public school teachers are disgusting liberal trash. Thats where the problem originates.

          • YEPYOUAREcorrect

            Yeah I have to agree with you..they are brainwashed tools of satan…. he uses them to program kids into turning into robot adults….that and television and now of course…COMPUTER GAMES

          • GuyFawkes

            About every other month, I see a story in the news about some teacher being charged with having sex with his/her students. Oddly, Texas appears to be the state plagued by this problem. Do you really want to arm mentally disturbed teachers?

          • Vidarson

            I would think that in a day and age where high schools across the country are building mega million dollar football stadiums, that schools could get their priorities straight and hire a few undercover, full time, REAL security persons to provide good, low key protection. Not teachers. Professional, expensive security.

          • ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

            I have a lefty friend who is a teacher. We got into that discussion after he found out I carry. The sight of my firearm scared him to death. He would rather die, and all his students die at the hands of a gunman, than arm himself at school.

            Pathetic.

          • Goffok Youssef

            Well, you have a lefty “acquaintance.” I have a few of those too. One of them was at my house, and needed to get on a conf call for work, so I offered him my office- several rifles and a 20ga leaning against the wall, no biggie. He sat in the hallway on the floor for his call. WTF???

          • Vassiliki

            Why are most teachers like this? I was in school today talking to a retired teacher and guns came up because of yesterday’s sick murders. He was all bent out of shape and said we should ban them or make lwas stricter. He actually thought that you go to a gun shop fill out an application check the box that says you are not a felon and viola, you are a new gun owner! We live in NJ so I set him straight how background checks work and applying for firearms permit and then a handgun permit and it took me 6 months to get approved. It was the mebtal health check that took so long. He just hemmed and hawed and said , we’ll maybe here it’s this way but not in other states. Once again. He talked about buying guns at gun shows and all this propaganda shit that was all wrong. I set him straight and finally acknowledged that he didn’t know much about guns and the process to buy them. So I said how can you make claims then that we need stricter gun laws! He shut up about then till I mentioned that we should get a license that let’s us cross state borders and not restrict out gun carrying just as Trump states during his campaign. The look of horror oh his face was quite humorous!!!!

          • Kevin Davison

            I don’t understand the left? they blame the gun, butt it’s gun’s and brave men that allowed them in live in a country free to say what they want , even attack the very ones that fought for there freedom.

          • Tberryjack

            Maybe Not ALL Teachers, I’ve had some that were Crazier than any wack-o student. Even if they were trying to help they’d end up shooting either themselves or the one they were trying to help or They’d look down the wrong end of the gun. But I agree that they kids are there to learn, They can have their freedom when they go home and as for diablodejalisco saying schools check EVERYONE that comes in, That’s a Great Thing, No One NEEDS to come into the Schools except for the Students and Teachers unless it’s the Cops for some reason.

          • Vassiliki

            Are you kidding me about teachers being trained and armed? Most of them hare guns and won’t even go near one or talk about them, except that hey are bad and they kill and we need stricter gun laws. I work in schools, believe me! At least not here on the East Coast, most of them are liberals.

          • TRStrunk

            WOW! That sucks for where you live. I live here in PA outside Philly. Many members of my gun club teach and would love to be able to carry legally in school. They are already well trained and have their license to carry a fire arm. Some have confessed that they even do carry in school knowing they are breaking the law but simply don’t care at this point with everything that’s going on.

            So I guess it’s all about where you live.

          • Vassiliki

            I know, I live in Jersey, about 45 min from Philly. We have one of the strictest gun laws in the nation. We vote tomorrow for new governor and the Democratic (Murphy) that is running wants to make even more gun restricting laws and make NJ a sanctuary state! I was talking to a retired teacher today, 71 YO make and he wants guns banned or harder to get and thinks that automatic weapons should be illegal. I was flabbergasted! I told him they are illegal! He didn’t know crap about guns and the what is illegal or not or the difference between military guns and civilian guns and how hard is to get a gun permit in NJ and the length of time. He thought you went into a gun shop filled out an application, checked off that you are not a felon (even if you are) and viola you get a gun. I set him straight and he finally acknowledged that he learned something new. Of course each state is different but since we live in NJ I told him about our laws.
            Glad to hear that teachers in PA, that is refreshing.

          • TRStrunk

            Here’s something that may be news for you. In our local gun shop here which is almost like the olden days barbershop where people come to hang out (many are Vets and retired Law enforcement). A recently retired NYPD officer who use to live in NJ and commuted every day to NY. Said the laws in NJ are so strict that even though NYPD officers were legally allowed to carry in NJ most would leave their service weapon in NY then go through the hassle they would have to put up with should they be pulled over by NJ Law Enforcement.

            Now that’s tells you how bad NJ Gun laws are if even Law enforcement is afraid to carry in the State. But with the shooting which happen just as often in NJ as here in PA (Mainly in the anti-gun cities here in PA) tells you the only people who aren’t armed in NJ is the criminals.

            Now with all the crap going down in the past years with Obama and the Democrats making victims out of criminals and Law enforcement into thugs I don’t leave my home w/o a firearm. Needless to say I haven’t been in NJ since. So NJ doesn’t get any of my $$’s and I know many others here in PA who also don’t travel to NJ any more for the same reason. Maybe another part of the puzzle why AC has been going down hill where many gun owners I know use to go for vacation which don’t any more.

          • Minority Privelege

            Thats because of the nonWhites making things like their homes.

            All of you cuckservatives sold your childrens birthrights to give unearned prosperity to subhumans who neither deserve it or handle it and you STILL have a race war coming for you.

            You White conservatives turned your backs on your own kind because muh racism and now we have commies shooting up churches and the FEDGUV COVERING FOR THEM

          • allright

            …or three, Mozambique style.

          • diablodejalisco

            But, then they will just set off a time bomb for Sunday Morning. Why not increase the education budget, increase the mental health budget, have everyone turn in their automatic weapons, Issue everyone a musket, a dry bag of black powder, and 100 musket balls, like our founding fathers intended when they gave us the right to bear arms. Seems to be getting out of hand here with all of this hate and bad politics. I think it will get worse before it gets better. Every idiot that wants to kill themselves want to make the headlines now. Too bad they take out innocent people.

          • http://www.miloonline.net MiloDC

            “Issue everyone a musket, a dry bag of black powder, and 100 musket balls, like our founding fathers intended when they gave us the right to bear arms.”

            Likewise, make it illegal to use microphones or computers or any electronic device of any kind to communicate, since those weren’t around when the right of free speech was established.

            Moron.

          • diablodejalisco

            As good excuse as any for keeping your big automatic weapons, but, who is the real moron? you wannabe Rambos that think violence is the answer. Teach peace instead of hate and you have much happier people. All of you Trump supporters look so foolish supporting him while he uses you and screws you out of your pride and money. If you can’t recognize a con man then you deserve to be conned. How many mass killings have we had with microphones, computers or electronics? See how stupid you sound? Like Trump, morons support other morons. Small penis effect is what it is. You may be the next one sitting in church when an idiots decides he wants to kill himself and become famous. Or, you could even become the shooter. You seem to fit the MO.

          • Don Law

            you talk about trump supporters and their guns being the problem….but most mass shootings are perpetrated by democrats

          • zipper

            Don’t forget our “friendly, peaceful” muslims.

          • zipper

            Wow, you talk about being conned and deserving it, because someone supported Trump? How much more does that apply to the total idiots who voted for one of the biggest con-men in the history of politics: Barack Hussein Obama!

            You say Trump has screwed us out of our pride & money. Now, that’s a flat-out lie! It’s just the opposite. He’s restored some pride that your hero, Obama(along with the criminal Hillary), destroyed. The economy under Trump is also recovering nicely. Under Obama, jobs disappeared, national debt spiraled out of sight, and he dumped $billions$ – Our Money – into the laps of our enemies.

            “..who is the real moron?”
            Why, that would appear to be you.

          • Thetford Norfolk ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            If you are ever attacked by a crook with a gun, make sure you throw platitudes of peace at him while throwing more money at the education budget. Get back to us and let us know how it goes.

          • zipper

            I don’t think diablodejalisco was being literal in his statement. I think he meant that everyone should be armed. Why don’t you ask him for clarification before jumping down his throat?

          • ronnyc

            Educate yourself Diablo. They had more than muskets back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

          • ststis

            “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Well asshole, I don’t see any weapon description in the law! So you can shove your muskets up your ass!

          • Bruce Darling

            or does it say I need a piece of paper from the government to allow me to protect myself…fuck the liberal pricks!

          • David Langley

            You’ve already got it. Second Amendment.

          • Minority Privelege

            ALL MILITARY WEAPONS ARE PROTECTED BY THE 2A

          • Vassiliki

            Lol! Good one

          • Okie Girl

            Are you kidding? Look at how you’re communicating! Does free speech (our 1st amendment) apply to our press now, or should it be limited to only pamphlets – as you are inferring with your musket post?

            I’ll keep my second amendment rights, because the Founders expecred me to be able to defend my family. I am sorry you are so ignorant ~ every animal in nature has an ability to defend itself, it is natural law & my divine right.

          • Dave Jacqueson

            And then the only ones with weapons would be the the criminals just let me tell you a little story sir under your musket scenario the only people who would have such weapons are the criminals the police in the military they can’t protect us without declaring martial law but that’s the leftist agenda anyway control the people make them weak make them dependent keep them down

          • TRStrunk

            You show you haven’t a clue. Arms stands for all weaponry and the founding fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they wrote it into the constitution. The first semi-auto weapon was invented and used back in 1718. Long before the revolutionary war so it’s a myth that our founding fathers didn’t believe weapons of such were possible when the wrote the 2nd amendment.

            What’s getting out of hand is stupidity of people who believe gun laws will solve violence when all they really do is make more victims. Last I heard killing people was against the law. Funny thing about laws. Only law abiding people obey them while criminals take advantage of them. What really needs to happen is the far left in our country has to STOP making criminals into Victims and Law enforcement into bad people.

          • Minority Privelege

            Lol

            Come and get them, ese

          • GuyFawkes

            Right to bear arms is a God given right. Founding fathers did not give something that was never theirs to give.

          • zipper

            “…have everyone turn in their automatic weapons.”
            And just how many full-auto’s do you think are out there? Sure, just turn them in….do you have Any idea how much they cost, or how restricted/regulated they are? Doubt it.
            And is your statement about issuing a musket, etc., actual or allegorical?

          • Thetford Norfolk ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            In that day a musket was a military grade weapon. Chew on that.

            The 2A doesn’t change when tech changes, or freedom of the press would not apply to the airwaves and the internet. It would only apply to what comes off a printing press.

          • Nik Teslavic

            Take away computers and cell phones and make everyone use a printing press, too. Because that’s what the founders intended, right?

          • MARYANN33

            The first thing to do is to stop any media from publishing the name and picture of the sick soul shooter. Give no names and no pictures and make his grand stand a total flop media wise. Stop giving these sickos what they want…Fame.Take it off the tv totally after one brief mention giving no name and no photos…Feeding the devil is what they do.Seems the media is unteachable besides being liars.

          • Kevin Davison

            Get with your local sheriff dept. you need to be taring under stress not just shooting at targets. Our sheriff sets up classes and teaches tactical shooting classes. Not only will it improve your skills, it make you safer.

          • Minority Privelege

            IDPA!!!

          • allright

            You’re right Kevin. At the very least these training exercises (whether PD sponsored or private sessions) will teach the student to be observant; to read situations and people. To visually scan crowds, notice abnormalities in rooms entered, making the right seating choices (not sitting with back to doors), making note of where the exits are and other “real world” lessons that could save lives in instances where the SHTF.

          • rbo120

            A gun on every man and woman’s hip will solve the problem

          • Goffok Youssef

            A gun on every GOOD man and woman’s hip will solve the problem.

          • allright

            Indeed. A gun in the hands of evil, deranged leftist murderers is what causes the problems in the first place.

          • bring back the biff

            YEP…..that is the only way to solve it…like the wild west…… where people watched their step….daily.. and went to church… and feared God…..

          • Dusty Webb

            and than make churchs start shooting each other

          • Gladys Bacon

            He was shooting fish in a barrell at his mother in law’s church because he was nuts…He had escaped from a mental hospital. An armed man in every public place would save most all lives from such as he.

          • Boommach

            Next Sunday, things will be different all across Texas.

          • Bob Jones

            Should be different all across America.

          • Boommach

            Yes, indeed.

          • Cindy Stam

            You mean all across America! Carry and protect.
            Amen

          • lapin.grove

            Keep your powder dry and pass the ammunition. AMEN.

          • Mickey Wardlow

            I’d rather keep my powder dry AND MY AXE SHARP. You can get your own ammo. 😉

          • Kevin Davison

            Our church has had an armed security team for a couple years, Concealed carry. It’s sad this is where our country is going. The country the left wants and i afraid its going to get worse.

          • sandy daniels

            We have a security Team as well have had for over three years I know I am one of them

          • kyle

            That’s why you make the left more afraid. 😉

          • Kevin Davison

            Way would the left be afraid ? Most wont set foot in a church.

          • Boommach

            You are exactly right. Bedlam is the way of the left. The purest form of democracy is mob rule. Community organizers across this great land are artful rabble rousers who are intent on destroying our republic in the most democratic way possible. That will lead to the tyranny they crave. We are dealing with evil as never before. Ultimately however, the left will be destroyed by the Truth.

          • Claudia Weil

            Sounds more like the alt.right are trying to rabble rouse, at least here on this thread.

          • Boommach

            On what do you base your assertion, Claudia?

            @claudiaweil:disqus “Sounds more like the alt.right are trying to rabble rouse, at least here on this thread. “

          • Claudia Weil

            Without any factual information at all about what really happened in Texas, all of these people on this thread jumped in and claimed this guy was Antifa, that this was the beginning of a civil war, and that this provided a legitimate excuse to go out and shoot democrats, liberals, atheists, or whatever group they decided was to blame.

          • Hammer

            Nothing sad about it. You and your church have the god given freedom to protect yourself. All people need to do is step up and be ready

          • gale storm

            never happen…..these people are few and far between! heretical fanatics!

          • Jeana-Lane Dimmett

            Yes, sadly they will. We will be waiting!

          • lapin.grove

            My husband carries and he is an armed guard.

          • cusfo

            Any patriot who carries is an armed guard. (:>)

          • DROP TINE RACING

            so should you

          • Deborah Brown

            There was a massacre at a little church in Tennessee just a couple of weeks ago. One woman was killed and several others were injured. The gunman was black, don’t know about his religion, if any.
            My point is, why hasn’t that shooting been publicized. Not enough whites killed by this black guy or does MSM pick and choose which ones they can stir up the most b.s. with!!! I choose to believe the latter.

          • Boommach

            I think this is the first I’ve heard of this. The legacy media are packed with liars, rabble-rousers and cowards.

          • Joe_USA

            That shooter was a muslim.

          • DROP TINE RACING

            its up to you to expose these msm outlets and take the narrative back post this story you speak up everywhere daily til that cant avoid it

          • Grady Hall

            someone was carrying. they exchanged gun fire when he was fleeing the church then they gave chase

          • Bob Jones

            I read that it was a neighbor with a rifle.

          • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1369501073/ Gary Mialocq

            Two neighbors chased him down and fired at him. His car was found a short distance away crashed with the killer dead. Don’t know if the neighbor killed him or if he shot himself. Sounds like it was the neighbor who cancelled his ticket.

          • James Frazier

            Someone was and chased him with a long gun and saved a lot more people from being killed

          • diablodejalisco

            Do God and guns go together? I think this is fake news and the guy was not antifa but just another right-wing nut that is gun crazy. but, it does make it sound good for all of the conservatives that its not one of them. The dude looks like a goofy republicans to me.

          • ramona corona

            Yes God and guns go together; praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

          • Ethelwaldo Arocho

            Victims were republican

          • Steve Eagan

            Want goofy looking look under the mask of any ANTIFA seen some of them also have you looked in the mirror lately LMAO
            As for the shooter he is said to be an Atheist so would not e from the right most of those are from the left. You n to your facts straight before you open your mouth and insert both of your clown feet in it.

          • 2mrixl1

            Yes, and right wingers murder Christians. You’re an idiot.

          • Ed Pool

            Ditto! Made my point for me sir.

          • ststis

            You are an idiot! i would love to meet your sorry ass in person!

          • Amanda Andrews

            There are no guns in Europe but they turn gather at peaceful marches with weapons

          • Timo Kaarkoski
          • billy bob

            And the dumbest comment of the year award goes to this stupid mother fucker!!! Congratulations you win

          • Bruce Darling

            fuck you, liberal pussy..you need your faggot ass beat

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            You sound angry. Are you going to be ok?

          • schnoodle

            Well, there’s ‘NO DOUBT’ what genera your STUPID ASS falls into!!…….

          • TRStrunk

            That’s funny coming from a left wing NUT. He had all the makings of a LEFT wing radical. Dishonorably Discharged from the military after serving Brig time. Beat his wife and kid. Went and shot up a church full of innocent people. YEP, left winger for sure most likely tuned into every Left wing HATE site on the web. But hey, keep blaming the Right for the actions caused by the left idiot!

          • trixie1223

            Liberals simply cannot control their emotions. Drama queens x 1000. Ever think about how many of those NFL kneelers are gun owners? I’m willing to bet ALL OF THEM.

          • Dan L

            STFU Liberal troll.

          • FedUpWithLibs

            Hey ahole. he was a lefty loon like yourself. It’s on his fb page. Live with the facts you loser

          • Charles Matthew Wilson

            he was athiest, a democrat, and a disgrace to the air force. you are an idiot, a walking target, next in line to die

          • Thetford Norfolk ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Guns and God go together a lot better than guns and no God.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            I don’t think that we have a political motive.
            All I know is that he was a disgraced airman with a history of domestic abuse, and a grudge against his mother-in-law, who attended the church.

          • Dusty Webb

            cuckservatives be like if its in the internet it has to be true lol. deplorables

          • Dr. Hofferrrr

            Yeah, their should have been somebody like the two heroes that took him out on the door and walking perimeter during all services. My church does just that. The time to stop these nuts is at the gate, not after they are coming out.

          • Bruce Darling

            time to start kicking antifa ass..we have been tolerant for two long!! if this story is true, then its time…befor the dems get their way and make gun ownership illegall

          • Minority Privelege

            NEGATIVE!

            Auntie fa are a symptom, the FEDGUV is the problem!
            Go after thr government, THEY caused all of this and want you to fight pigs over control of thr gutter and not them!!!

          • Carl Acquaviva
          • Takiwa

            This snopes? Snopes is a joke:

            ‘Fact checking’ website Snopes on verge of collapse
            after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his
            honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn’t told its readers THOSE facts)
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

          • Carl Acquaviva

            And none of this is being reported on CNN either. Of course you know for a fact that they are all just fake news too.

          • Dusty Webb

            is it being reported on faux news?

          • zipper

            Snopes? hahaha Leftist dribble.

          • zipper

            Bruce, the Repubs have both houses of Congress plus the presidency. They aren’t going to have it their way on gun control; didn’t happen even when they were in-charge(not for a lack of trying).

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Settle down, Darling. Nobody’s going to take your guns.
            Attacking fellow citizens with distasteful political views won’t make anything better.

          • Dusty Webb

            typical trumpard moron. gun control=/=gun ban

          • allright

            Indeed. There are two things I “never leave home without”, 1) my American Express card and 2) my Kimber Ultra Carry 2 – with 2 backup mags. True story.

          • Dusty Webb

            must be nice living in fear all the time

          • allright

            Haven’t lived with fear a day of my life. I am prepared, not fearul. Only fools fall victim to fear. So no, you don’t know me, don’t pretend you do. Your lieberal/progressive/socialist-democrat projection only works on the weak minds, like yours.

          • Dusty Webb

            meh i wouldnt care to even know your scary ass

          • allright

            So it’s obivously YOU who’s living in fear. Good to know. The irony, regardless your piss-poor attitude, I’d still protect/save your sorry a$$ with my concealed weapon, if the need ever arose.

          • Cami W

            Hubby and my family are Texans and we have CCWs and legally carry even to church, either one of us would have taken those murderers out if it had been our church.

          • Bruce

            Are you telling me that in Texas not one member of the congregation was carrying and they had no security we knew that we had threats from the communists

          • wakeupamewhorica

            that’s the first thing I thought when I saw it was in texas..kinda limp dicked really… you might say you don’t expect this to happen in a church….. well I expect it to happen ANYWHERE ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT PERIOD…….wake up….. the devils war has begun…why wouldn’t he send one of his demons into a church…. kinda speaks for itself now doesn’t it…hmm wake up amewhorica…your end is nigh…You will be destroyed in 1 hour

          • Vassiliki

            Unfortunately not all states allow carrying….so we become sitting ducks

          • orly?

            Texas does allow it. Next excuse!

          • Vassiliki

            I don’t live in Texas.

          • Vassiliki

            Was I talking to you?

          • orly?

            Do I care? It’s a public forum, snowflake!

          • Vassiliki

            Obviously, since you responded to me.

          • Jeana-Lane Dimmett

            We all have a right to protect ourselves! Everywhere!

          • Vassiliki

            I agree, but not in my state

          • MrSteve

            Exactly. In Texas and church and no one security gun? That sounds not logical. I carry either a 40 caliber or 380 where ever I go including church

          • sandy daniels

            we always have arms in church. Montana is smart that way

          • TX223

            There may have been folks packing, but center mass hits may not incapacitate someone with the level of armor he had on.

          • Betterthanu

            And running like a bit cheaper when someone shoots back at you

          • maribill

            They talk big but it is not like playing a video game or shooting at a paper target…

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            You antaifa pussies need to learn to spell and form sentences!

          • deminthered

            it’s “antifa.” LOL irony

          • Perpitraitor

            Its AuntQuifa!

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            It’s Queen Latifah!

          • Barbara Hennon

            Good for you. I hope you never have to use your weapon but I certainly believe in your right to have it, and use it to protect yourself and others.

          • maribill

            colleen, you won’t do shit, your little pea shooter will do nothing against a rapid fire rifle. Targets don’t shoot back or move, unless you have actually been in such a situation don’t think you will be dirty harry.

          • Tench Coxe

            Pure speculation on your part…

          • ►Unavailable ◄

            It’s bedtime for you Hillary. Get your bottle and find somewhere nice to pass out.

          • leannimal88

            And just how do you know what Colleen’s capabilities are? She has a better chance than someone who is NOT carrying. Crawl back under your rock and let the big people have a grownup conversation.

          • NeoBlackdog

            Marabil, you really have no clue, do you? That scary ‘rapid fire rifle’ can only be pointed in one direction at a time. If there are multiple people in a room what are the chances that it will be pointed at the person with a handgun that is willing to use it? If there are multiple people in that same room that have handguns then the chances of taking out the shooter with a scary ‘rapid fire rifle’ goes up exponentially.
            I can draw fro concealment and have three hits on target in 2.69 seconds. Yes, I’ve had training and I practice. Is that time enough for the bad guy with the scary ‘rapid fir rifle’ to home in on me and shoot me? Maybe, but he’ll be in a world of hurt while he’s trying.

          • Boommach

            She’s not anticipating being “Dirty Harry”. She simply wants to be able to stop evil. That seemingly antithetical to everything you’re about.

          • Bob Jones

            Maribill is a Lefty. They have a total lack of morals, at least morals that civilized people recognize as being wholesome and right. They do not understand “She simply wants to be able to stop evil”.

          • Boommach

            No argument. As I said, [stopping evil] is antithetical to everything [maribill] is about. We are dealing with evil on many fronts as never before in our history. For those who are bent toward decency and life and honor, evil is hated. For those who love lies and all told perversions, evil is very attractive and lusted for.

          • DON’T TREAD ON ME

            Yeah what about us Marines there little one? Run mari Run mari before you get ur ass handed to u!

          • Bob Jones

            All of the vets I know hate the Left. Thank you sir for your service. Thank God for vets!!!!!!

          • MalcontentElder

            Except for the Generals. For some damn reason they always move left after retirement. Why the heck is that? It has always made me wonder. Of all military vets, they themselves should be the most dedicated to preserving freedom, and our way of life. After all, they dedicated most of their adult life working to secure it. But, in modern times, going back all the way to Eisenhower, any of the Generals that retire, and then get into politics, always seem to go left of center.

          • Bob Jones

            Well, I can’t really understand that either. My guess is that once they retire and notice that the Democratic Party is all about people control vs the Republican Party’s position of limited government, at least that’s what the Pubs state they believe in. So as a General who has spent their whole career controlling people, maybe what the Left offers as far as people control is more attractive to them? Just my thoughts.

          • bonniebluejeanne

            It’s b/c those who rise to the top had lots of “assignments” to take care of on their way up. I’d venture to say that most of the generals agree with One World Government – mainly b/c they being at the top would be a part of that govt – the high & mighty class that rules the serfs.

          • TRStrunk

            Not true at all. Most go right but when you have a Left controlled Media which only gives left thinking Generals the time of day it just seems the majority go left.

          • Grady Hall

            if hers won’t my AR will and i will shoot any of you antifa faggots with a smile on my face. THIS IS AMERICA THE HOME OF THE FREE AND I WILL GLADLY KILL ANY COMMUNIST PIECE OF FASCIST SHIT THAT TRIES TO INFRINGE ON MY FREEDOMS!!!!!!!

          • deminthered

            How ’bout them Russians?

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            May all your murder fantasies come true.

          • Claudia Weil

            What freedom? The freedom to kill people you think are “communist pieces of fascist shit”? What gives you the right to kill other human beings just because they have a different political point of view? What ever happened to voting, debate, rational discussion? Is this the country you think America should become? One where people with big guns can just kill people they disagree with?

          • Bob Jones

            Why don’t you try her, and see if she is B.S.ing? My money is on Colleen.

          • Magnus Magnanimous

            GFY

          • john carter

            We know you won’t do shit because you wont even have a pea shooter, little on a real gun. You better hope Colleen is close by to save your butt.

          • ststis

            You would be surprised dick breath.

          • TRStrunk

            You couldn’t be more wrong in your statement. It’s not the tool but the person behind the tool that counts and you’d be very surprise of the meek and mild people who have turned into dirty harry’s when the situation arose.

          • Bob Jones

            I am so glad that more and more women are obtaining their C.C. permits. Ever heard of the organization “The Well Armed Women”?

          • HappyJack1

            That’s what we need, more bravado…

          • VAHAWK

            Don’t worry yourself – FAKE FALSE FLAG BULLSHIT EVENT

          • David Haggin

            These ANTIFA idiots are nothing but cowards. They want to go were they know people are not armed, like Churches, Schools, and Grocery stores. The cowards and have minds of a bunch of monkey’s. They will not show up on no one’s house or out in the streets of communities, because that’s were they no they will not have a chance. A little bit of dynamite will go a long way. Why the hell not , we need to start murdering these idiots because they are murdering us. Hell with it, give them what they giving us, death!!! Murder!!!

          • WestPointMom

            Yeah…Antifa hides their face (because they’re cowards)..destroys property and threatens people. The are self imploding.

          • Only Rosie Odonnell

            Get back to your video games. Grown-ups are talking.

          • Zip Em Up

            Lefty picklesmoocher with brand new account – 22 comments – all clownazz stupid. Go give your dad his nightly blumpkin you POS.

          • BillyBobx

            take your leghumping and buttsniffing on down the road, mutt.

          • Rustyangel

            You’re the problem.

          • Doug Retter
          • moldy jones

            Trolling much?

          • OldCrow1973

            Moldy you are responding to ANTIFA.

            They have now killed 49 in Las Vegas. 27 in Southerland Springs.

            The FBI is only wiping phones and shutting up witnesses. The MSM is flogging Gun Control.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Is every white mass murderer ANTIFA now?

          • OldCrow1973

            Just the dead SJW/ANTIFA MENTALLY. INSANE DECEASED ones in Southerland Texas.

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            There’s nothing socially just about murder.

          • OldCrow1973

            Exactly. That is why SJW/ANTIFA have failed.

          • John

            You do not know what you’re talking about

          • GarthDial

            You’d be surprised how many teacher are involved with ANTIFA. Ever notice how the numbers at their demonstrations drop off when the school year starts?

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            And/or students, and/or people who would rather be comfortable than protest in the cold.

          • nikondvr

            And just how many have you put a bullet into? Or are you just a mouth on the internet? You “nonConservative.

          • ststis

            Bring it on anytime Ryan, you cowardly piece of shit!

          • teapartyguardian

            Anarchists like you have it all wrong, too!

          • Joe

            It doesn’t take balls to shoot innocent unarmed people with an A.R., it takes a deranged person that happens to be a coward. Your twisted.

          • David Langley

            One basic duty of the government is punishing criminals. This is necessary to preserve rule of law and prevent lynch mobs and the break down of society. Your Communist masters found a malleable one with you, didn’t they? What else did they tell you? Men are inherently evil so you must give all your rights and freedoms to a small group of them? Conservatives are not anarchists. Leftists like to paint them as such, because the simpletons they depend on for support can easily be fooled into this logical error, and it frightens them to think so many Americans would want to do away with government completely. It also allows them to align their political foes with their less savory co-conspirators.

          • allright

            You’re an idiot.

          • jake L.

            You just became a victum of antics. They now have you on their side. you are now a mouth piece and a mindless puppet being used to help divide America. Just for once in your life, make a decision based on reality, that came from sound judgement instead of being taken by a group that you can easily fit into because of your weird views and lack of compassion for your fellow man. I am praying for you. Hope some day you learn to think for yourself instead of being taken captive by these kinds of commy trash and isis. Weak minded cowards follow groups made up of weak minded cowards. Don’t become one.

          • Minority Privelege

            They have the balls to shoot 7narmed people and attack single people with mobs.

            If I ever met you, Id break your skull wide open.

          • willnkc

            What a moron, government created most of the problems we have in this country. Goverment stopped solving problems 100 years ago and started being the biggest threat to American freedom. You liberals are the reason things like this happen, you created this problem and you own it.

          • Jeremy Prince

            I dare you mess with mine pussyboy.But you support cowards who only attack the weak.

          • Gene C Clark

            nice that you idolize some idiot that killed 28 ppl…shows what kind of parents raised you

          • lapin.grove

            SHUT UP you miscreant! MAKING things worse is not a solution. Killing ANTIFA will make them the martyrs they ARE NOT!

          • Seeker333

            GFY, Oh, you do constantly. DISGUSTING.

          • Kev Lane

            Phuck you, Ryan. I didn’t here anyone screeching … instead, a good citizen took protecting and serving his community personally and very seriously. He then put a bullet in that snowflakes ass, God bless him!

          • Phlebs

            Bring your imaginary bullet down to my ranch in Texas; don’t mind the purple paint, commie.

          • J. Sebastian

            or the fact that its government and government doesn’t solve problems, but you “Conservatives” sure do keep screeching for them to.

            Yah, but I think you’re talking about RINO Republicans, not mainstream conservatives.

            Limited government my ass, just as bad as Antifa in my book, at least they have the balls to do something about what they preach giving me the opportunity to put a bullet in one.

            The conservative movement has definitely been hijacked by the RINO contingent, they are Big Government Conservatives, or at least if you’re going to call them conservatives, that’s what you need to qualify it with, in order to distinguish it from what Conservatism, Inc *used* to represent. Somehow the impetus of the Reagan Revolution got diverted and perverted into RINO-ism and I agree its pretty disgusting.

            I’d go so far as to suggest that true Conservatism is now only represented by people like Rand Paul (and his dad before him) , Ted Cruz was kind of talking the right story, but then revealed himself as another RINO during the campaign and subsequent Never Trumpism.

            And btw, the people you expect to be totally behind “limited government” are the Libertarians, but in what is likely a shock and surprise to the public, the national “Libertarian Party” is actually Anarchist. They aren’t supportive of limited government, they are supportive of NO government…that’s a far more vexing problem than people who want Big Government.

          • TDJ

            59,000 – 65,000 drug related deaths in the US in 2016!! WOW! Slowing down the slaughter of our youth and next generation so we can stop or slow down immigration is more of a priority to me at this moment than an expedient prosecution of Hillary. Yes, she needs to be locked up, and the sooner the better, but prioritizing the two issues I’m choose to save our youth. I support Mr. Session!!

          • Ace

            Mr. Miller there are confused people of every stripe. A “conservative” is not a conservative. The latter does advocate limited government and you are wrong to insinuate that they are hypocrites. That said, if you are looking for political purity and consistency of human opinion, perhaps there’s another planet somewhere where this can be found.

            AntiFa don’t “have the balls” to do something. There’s no bravery in ganging up on someone or sucker punching him (or ambushing him with a chain and bicycle lock and then running away). Nor is it brave to cover your face to avoid identification.

            Nor is it brave to engage in street crime when you know the local authorities will stand down and let you attack others. And what is it that those arrogant swine preach except mindless attacks on law abiding citizens?

            Your views are ignorant and laced with words that amuse only grade school children.

          • mangomuffin2

            Check out Steve Hilton on The Next Revolution.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2g9vEnbW7c

          • Guy Gadbouis

            Or both.

          • Cami W

            Sessions is just another swamp creature, get Gowdy or Guliani!!!

          • Leon Foonman M.D.

            Wilbur Ross

        • Nortonchopper

          He’s actually less than worthless because he’s PREVENTING investigations from proceeding.

        • Steve K

          All the high level politicians know first hand about hillary’s death squad. They saw how easy it was for obama and hillary to take out Justice Scalia and they don’t want to be next

          • deminthered

            Oh this is totally awesome. Best bullshit of the month so far.

        • Goffok Youssef

          He’s been a pol for a long time. Of course he has.

        • Bugi

          Possibly both. He was in the Senate for twenty years so he’s a swamp creature.

        • lapin.grove

          I believe he has been. HE des not act like the same Alabamian he was when he became a Senator. Hillary has got something on him or his family and perhaps hinted at violence( THAT I CAN BELIEVE)!

        • Huckleberry

          Both

      • Barbara Hennon

        Yep!

      • Vinnie DiNicola

        Hillary probably has pictures of Sessions in some satanic child sacrifice shit.

        • Nortonchopper

          I think it’s ill gotten financial wealth. Could be as bad as you say, though.

      • Goffok Youssef

        That’s the only kind there is.

      • Just Sayin

        AND…AGAIN…it wasn’t ANTIFA. The shooter’s mother in law went to that church and it’s a domestic situation. Y’all always claim stuff without ANY information. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/texas-shooting-church.html?referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com

        • Nortonchopper

          Go to 3:56 mark. He listed himself as a member of the UAF (United against Fascism) Party – – antifa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RmD3hGobP0

          • http://www.andymercer.net Kelderic

            3:56 mark is not proof at all. It’s just a video capture of scrolling over a document. I can make a document in MS Word in 10 minutes and make a screencap scrolling over it.

      • Dzndef

        Regarding this article, I have been told that Facebook has called this article fake news as there is a claim that the above screenshot of the killer’s supposed Facebook page is a fake. Which begs the question – how did anyone get a screenshot of his Facebook page if it was taken down within an hour of the shooting and his name had not been released yet?

    • scoutout

      This killing has NOTHING to do with them!!! What a PUTZ!!!

      • Eric-SurpriseAZ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Hillary and Obama have multiple crimes to their names that should have landed them in jail, especially Hillary. ANTIFA is a terrorist group that has engaged in organized violence over the past few months. This killing by one of their members has everything to do with them.

        • Claudia Weil

          You sound like one of those conspiracy theorists.

          • Deplorable Dan

            You sound like an antafud or at least one of their fugly cheer leaders.

          • Claudia Weil

            Sorry, Deplorable, I don’t even KNOW a single antifa person. Never met one, probably never will.

          • Deplorable Dan

            Nice shiny beads

          • Claudia Weil

            Thanks! Just a hobby. I’m not very political, but I hate to see misinformation and paranoia. The world is so messed up, with so much hate and fear.

          • Deplorable Dan

            True.

          • Alan Wolcik

            Yea we elected a black man and got hate & division…

          • Claudia Weil

            There was hate and division for a few hundred years. Look at the way minorities, racial, religious, or otherwise, have been treated. You can’t blame that on Obama.

          • Ruth

            Where have you been living for the last 8 years? Obama is not to blame for anything is he? Man are you one brain washed little dope. You voted for Hillary didn’t you? Admit it. You cried yourself to sleep the night she lost, didn’t you??

          • Claudia Weil

            Hate and division have been in the USA for 200 years. Read some history books.

          • AuntieFran

            Yet you’re willing to defend an organization you know nothing about. Now tell me…who is confused?

          • Claudia Weil

            There is not a single statement where I defend Antifa. Not one.

          • Curtis Lee

            I met some that came to KY, they called our store looking for Plate armor to protect them……. We didn’t have any and would have not sold that shit to them anyways….. Hope the little bastards burn..

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            Are you a blacksmith? lol

          • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

            CONSPIRACY THEORIST = GOOD PATRIOT!!!

            the CIA coined the term to label those who QUESTION the government so they appear to be crazy. the CIA and other agencies have FACTUALLY engaged in conspiracies and then some. if you never question the government, YOU are part of the problem. a good ol’ bootlicker. you love your govt master dontcha sweetheart?!

          • Claudia Weil

            Lol. Wow, does someone PAY you to sound this crazy, or did you just forget to take your meds today?

          • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

            It is a fact. Go do the research yourself.
            If you never question the government, something is wrong with you. Is that how you live your life? Are you really such a bootlicker that whatever is told to you by those in power, you just nod and agree?
            You are a danger to this country, for you vote for the commies who wish to destroy it.

          • Claudia Weil

            Right, so NOW I’m a commie? Wow, you like to jump to some pretty far-fetched conclusions. No, not a commie. not ANTIFA, none of that. I’m a patriot who cares about the USA and hates to see so much misinformation and paranoia out there. The last thing we need is people being suspicious of anyone with a different political view. A lot of people have guns, and seem to be itching to use them on people they don’t know. This is a dangerous situation.

          • AuntieFran

            Might I suggest that you pay attention to sources other than CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, the NY Times? I’d strongly recommend The Conservative Treehouse.

          • Claudia Weil

            I stay away from alt.right stuff. Too wacky.

          • Bamasux

            you idiot, antifa are violent thugs, they dont just disagree with us. You idiot.

          • Timothy Gunter

            She tried the old “meds” attack on you. Stupid liberals….

          • Robert Hayes

            Claudia, is your smug conceit as repulsive in real life as online?

          • Bob Knudsen

            If it had to be a baptist church why couldn’t it have been the one where the people go around protesting the funerals of soldiers and children?

          • SiFiRocker .

            are you stupid, what are you talking about Claudia, it was ANTIFA member did the shooting, it a terrorist org. back by Hillary, Obama and Soro get your head out of your ass!

          • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

            she is not operating on all cylinders. she is a bootlicker and walks lock-n-step with the leftist commies.

          • Claudia Weil

            No, I’m not stupid. I don’t follow far right extremist conspiracy theories.

          • angela paul

            …because you are a far-left antifa supporter….

          • Claudia Weil

            No, I’ve never even MET an antifa supporter, and I’m not a leftist. I’m also a white Christian mom. So don’t make things up about people. That’s dangerous. You might give people the wrong idea, then they’ll want to go after normal people like me because they “hate antifa.”

          • Uncool

            What are you?

          • Claudia Weil

            What are you? I’m just a regular American. I hate to see fear-mongering.

          • Soldier

            Claudia Weil…a fucking witch. Studied psychology and worked in the political science dept at a university..if that isn’t a leftist nut, I don’t know what is…fucking FREAK!

          • Claudia Weil

            Right, sure. So, now you are trolling ME and making up complete nonsense. The political science gig wasn’t “political” from my perspective, it was analyzing data. And the witch thing is for Halloween, not serious. I am about as mainstream as you can get. Don’t go making things up about other people. That’s not fair.

          • Justice

            You’re full of shit. You have witchehttps://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0c31c948092a5f8376d62cfdaf533886ecd636a1a32f16a28f49a2f828e6f5e1.jpg

          • Claudia Weil

            What is witchehttps://uploads… etc? No idea what you are talking about.

          • jcroobug

            Claudia you are sadly deluded. What a shame to see such brainwashing.

          • Claudia Weil

            Lol.

          • Ron Thibodeaux

            Well your head is so far up your butt not in the right place.

          • Bob Knudsen

            Its always easy to the Left to dismiss the truth just by simple calling it a conspiracy theory. But the truth never changes.

          • Uncool

            What do you follow? Did you see the killer’s facebook page?
            You just so happen to have a ton of comments on this topic. Is that a conspiracy?

          • Claudia Weil

            I didn’t see a single legitimate news organization confirm that the guy was Antifa. The only place I see that is on right wing conspiracy pages. Doesn’t that tell you anything?

          • Anonymous

            There are no legitimate news organizations anymore

          • Alan Wolcik

            nor do you seem to want to follow fact on the left.

          • Claudia Weil

            No, I don’t follow left wing sites either. Life is too short.

          • Uncool

            Life must not be too short to carry on so much with strangers.

          • Claudia Weil

            Bored, I guess.

          • AuntieFran

            You may not be stupid, Claudia, but you obviously cannot read…all the Antifa links are right here in this article. You’ve been brainwashed, darlin’!

          • Bamasux

            yeah, antifa are not capable of this. They have never committed acts of violence, right? Moron.

          • Ol’ Blue

            So. There are no left wing extremist conspiracy theories, correct?

          • Claudia Weil

            Who wants to go looking up every half baked conspiracy theory out there? Lol.

          • Punditator

            We don’t know he was an ANTIFA member.

          • Debby Smith

            i just read that he draped an antifa flag over the pulpit as he ran into the church not sure if thats true just what i read

          • Claudia Weil

            Where did you read that? A right wing rumor page?

          • Alan Wolcik

            You seem pretty closed minded to be lecturing others.

          • Claudia Weil

            It’s not closed-minded to reject alt.right propaganda. It shows that I have a mind, an understanding of history, a healthy cynicism about people like Alex Jones who make money off of scaring people, and I don’t trust random rumors that have no real evidence behind them.

          • AuntieFran

            It’s right here in the article you are commenting on. Did you not read it?

          • orly?

            You mean on “yournewswire”? LOL, Bahahahahah, Whaaaaaaahahahahahahhahaha, lol, ,lol, lol.

            BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

          • Claudia Weil

            That article not actual news. Pretty sure most of us are aware of this fact. Just because people post stuff on websites pretending to be news doesn’t make their posts facts.

          • White Lightning

            Read the story above

          • STFUTWIT

            So, do you support antifa?

          • Claudia Weil

            I’ve never even MET an antifa member, lol. No, of course not. I don’t support anyone who is violent or threatens people.

          • STFUTWIT

            You do know that antifa members and supporters are going to be hunted down like rabid dogs…

          • Claudia Weil

            I don’t support any groups that promote violence.

          • orly?

            Debby is a gullible fool. I didn’t read it, I just know it’s true.

          • Terry

            Church members said they draped an Antifa flag over the podium.

          • Punditator

            You are talking about the people that half are dead and half are injured? I suspect they aren’t talking to anyone presently except doctors and the police. I seriously doubt there was enough time for flag draping and a pop quiz.

          • orly?

            No. No the church members did not, and there was no “they”.

          • Punditator

            If it was an ANTIFA member on the weekend of their civil war effort, I would say that constituted a RICO trigger and a terrorist act.

          • Claudia Weil

            The “antifa civil war” was a non-starter that was hyped by the far right.

          • Punditator

            I don’t think anyone actually believed it, but it was ANTIFAs claim.

          • Dave H

            At what point is it no longer theory?

          • Uncool

            You sound like a distraction troll.

          • Claudia Weil

            Whatever. I wish Soros would pay me, lol.

          • Alan Wolcik

            You are so mixed up… The left has been chasing the collusion Trump and Russia for a year. What do we find out it was Hillary. Trump has not destroyed his computer, acid washed them, deleted email, (35,000). Nope that was Hillary and you can only think of Right wing conspiracy theories.

          • maribill

            Claudia, all these idiots are going to be surprised when the indictments from Mueller come down for trump and the rest of his crooked administration. They cry Hillary, Obama, etc. but they have done nothing illegal. The shooter at the church is representing the communist and we know who is owned by the russians, trump and the swamp rats. We will have the last laugh…hahahaha.

        • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

          What terrorist acts have confirmed ANTIFA members committed?

          • Eric-SurpriseAZ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Multiple campus riots with physical attacks on white conservatives, Bike chains etc as the favored weapons. And this attack Sunday, there are many reports that the perp was declaring himself for ANTIFA. There are quite a few more. Google is your friend. (Well not really, they are a socialist outreach program but you can still google the information.)

          • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

            At this point, Sunday’s attack sounds more personal than political. I hope we can both agree that we have incomplete/conflicting information at this time.

            I’ll grant you that a politically-motivated brawl does seem to meet the loosest possible definition of “terrorism”.

          • Eric-SurpriseAZ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            ter·ror·ism
            NOUN
            the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

            Yeah, it fits pretty well.

      • Don Law

        how do you figure it has nothing to do with them….the DNC and Obama and Soro’s have been funding them

        • Claudia Weil

          You do realize that this is bull. DNC, Obama, and Soros are not funding antifa. They are doing this on their own.

          • Brian

            Horsehockey

          • Punditator

            I believe Soros is funding ANTIFA.

          • Claudia Weil

            You can believe whatever you want, that’s your right. But it still doesn’t make it true.

          • Punditator

            Soros has spent his entire life profiting from the misery of others. Why would supporting ANTIFA be out of bounds?

          • Gary Gautreau

            George Soros identified Jewish people to the Nazis during WW2 who were sent to the gas chambers.

          • Punditator

            I’m going with, I don’t know if that is true, but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me.

          • Mark Garrity

            It’s true.

          • Gregory Samuel Conway

            That was in 1944 and hye said in an intewrview that 1944 was the best year of his life.

          • Gone Hunting

            well considering they have the documentation proving soros funded antifa on several occasion it pretty much makes your arguement superfluous

          • Uncool

            You can believe whatever you want, that’s your right. But it still doesn’t make it true.

          • Bill Kelly

            In order to be so sure you must be one of them, the enemy!

          • Claudia Weil

            That’s ridiculous.

          • Ward3

            I AM your enemy, but I am not paid or ANTIFA. So?

          • coloradobear

            Do you own a firearm? Do you carry one legally? Do you believe in Santa Clause and the good tooth fairy? I’m not sure where your head is but if you actually believe that the DNC, Hillary, Obama and George Soros isn’t behind all of this athiestic, anti-Christian crap, your are delusional.

          • Ward3

            Psst. It’s Santa Claus. A clause is a part of sentence. Also, It would be the DNC, Hillary, Obama and George Soros AREN’T. Also, “atheistic”, “you are” or “you’re”. What country provided YOUR education?

          • Res

            Homeschooling

          • GarthDial

            Yes. Yes. No & no. Yes.

          • Peggy Hill

            Can you prove otherwise?

          • Ecclesiastes 10.2

            Well you’re just precious

          • Rocky

            You must be happy wearing those blinders of yours.

          • Moses Wayne

            You are so ignorant, who do you think is funding Antifa? Soros,Obama and the DNC. Do your research.

          • Steve Morris

            YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH, contard asshole. Guess what? Soros does not fund “antifa”, Obama does not fund “antifa”, and the DNC does not fund “antifa”. Stop drinking Alex Jones’ piss with your coffee.

          • Paul Revere
          • Seth Webber

            Actually it has been proven that funding coming from Soros-owned companies, charities, and organizations have been paying for people to attend these. Obama has been proven to be involved but no one has been able to find out what Obama is getting out of it.
            The DNC has no money except for Hillary’s and the few donors it has left but as of now it is in debt and Hillary Rodham Clinton bought that debt.

          • http://yamamanama.livejournal.com yamamanama

            The RAND Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires.
            It goes all the way to Little Caesar himself.

          • NeoBlackdog

            You forgot the Reptilians.

          • Steve Morris

            Your BELIEF is meaningless. I believe I’ll have another beer.

          • Paul Revere

            sure is. spending millions

          • http://yamamanama.livejournal.com yamamanama

            I still haven’t gotten my paycheck for the Women’s March and the March for Science.

          • Claudia Weil

            Yeah, where do I sign up to get paid for arguing with right wing conspiracy nuts?

          • Chronicsmokemon

            you are the only nut I can see

          • maribill

            russia is funding trump and his whole administration.

          • ClobberDobson

            You senile old coot. You believe everything CNN tells you, huh?

          • sleddogs
          • Steve Morris

            BULLSHIT. I love this: “Only one group – Indivisible, a George Soros-backed ‘resistant’ outfit – denied receiving financial support from Onward Together.” MEANWHILE, none of the other 4 groups allegedly contacted confirmed the allegation. Nice try, contard.

          • C. Graham

            Then who paid over $ 100,000.00 for the full page ad in the NYT last week?? None of thee people have $ 100k.

          • Steve Morris

            How the hell do you know who has money and who doesn’t?

          • TexanForever

            The bastard was off by only one day. The New York Times ran the Antifa ad that called for nationwide violence on the 25th. The New York Times shares responsibility for the Southerland Springs, Texas, massacre by accepting and running the ad. I wonder if the editors are hoping no one is noticing and connecting the dots.
            .

          • Valerie Ventura

            Who do you think? they have money.Also their signs lots for money.Antifa or anybody supporting them should be arrested.

          • Res

            But 100,000 of them have 1$

          • Chronicsmokemon

            The hell they ain’t, antifa staged a protest calling for their money from Soros for the inauguration riots

          • MikeandSandra Sorrell

            They sure did, 25.50per hr.

          • Steve Morris

            HOW MUCH ARE YOU GETTING PAID FOR SELLING LIES? You have zero evidence to back up your claim.

          • NotMarySue

            Blocking.

          • zipper

            Don’t remember if it was $25.50/hr, but I DID see a published ad for paid “protestors” last year.

          • Tanya Parker

            What difference does it male who is funding who or who is promoting who? The facts, the outcomes, are all the same ! Innocent American BLOOD, yes you heard me, INNOCENT AMERICAN BLOOD shed by Americans? There is not even a question of truth or right or wrong here. Anyone promoting, enabling violence against our own people just to prove a point, Or, simply because you do not like who is currently in office , gives you justification for any of this? We have had opposites side in office for how many decades? I say we pass a law> anyone who promotes any of this from any group, violence against our own citizens, YOUR family needs to be lined up first. Lets see if you might gain a little perspective from that thought!

          • Claudia Weil

            I agree. None of us should be threatening anyone else. We are all Americans. We have the right to have different points of view.

          • AuntieFran

            I believe that is referred to as sedition and there already is a law!

          • MikeandSandra Sorrell

            Wrong.

          • Henry Stegner

            george soros
            Founded or helped to found[edit]
            Open Society Foundations[1]
            Central European University (CEU)
            Institute for New Economic Thinking
            democracy alliance
            Supported

            Algebra Project
            Center for Constitutional Rights
            Media Matters for America
            American Civil Liberties Union
            Center for Public Integrity
            Human Rights Watch
            Amnesty International Ireland
            Priorities USA Action
            American Bridge 21st Century
            correct the record
            National Democratic Voting Rights Trust
            America Votes
            Senate Majority PAC
            Planned Parenthood Action Fund
            Immigrant Voters Win PAC
            End Citizens United
            Every Voice

          • Claudia Weil

            I don’t know all of them, but Human Rights Watch and the ACLU are very worthy groups. Are you trying to suggest that there is something wrong with all the groups on this list?

          • truthseeker53

            ACLU’s liberal trash. Won’t defend the 2nd Amendment.

          • Claudia Weil

            The 2nd amendment is not being threatened. That’s just a myth the gun companies want you to believe so that they can convince you to buy more guns.

          • zipper

            My, but you are ignorant!

          • Claudia Weil

            No one is threatening the second amendment. There was a right wing rumor that “Obama was going to take everyone’s guns” but that never happened, did it?

          • David Fuller

            He tried.

          • zipper

            Obama, Hillary, and their leftist cohorts expressly stated their desire to impose the UK/Australian gun-control model on the citizens of the U.S.. If you don’t understand that that is a Direct threat to the 2nd A., there is no hope for you.

          • truthseeker53

            Ma’am, you’re deluded. Blue areas have already virtually disarmed residents. Dimmercraps would have everybody defenseless if they had their way.

          • Ruth

            Poor, poor Wittle Claudia is so completely brainwashed. It is hard to believe you can be that stupid but Claudia is. No doubt she bawled her heard off the night her dear Hillary lost. It is a night I will always remember.

          • Ruth

            CORRECTION; She bawled her HEAD off!!

          • Bill Bothers

            The ACLU USED TO BE ‘worthy’. They’re quite ‘picky’ when deciding WHOSE rights to defend. Very partisan nowadays.

          • Aaron Kizer

            Truth. ^^^ it’s all political

          • Seth Webber

            Amen.

          • Rocky

            The ACLU started out right but turned completely Democrat, liberal, and God hating. It is a horrible organizatoin now.

          • zipper

            ACLU a “very worthy group?” You really need to be posting on HuffPost website. Geez!

          • Peggy Hill

            Are you kidding me? The ACLU is as dirty as they come now days. They instigate as much violence and destruction as possible. They’re not out to help anyone but themselves and their spokespeople are criminals, tax evaders and thugs!

          • Henry Stegner

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IovWPu2w44
            Recent video of Antifa members protesting not getting paid as promised, chanting “Soros”
            riseup.net — funded by Soros charity and private donations
            – used by Antifa/ARA* worldwide as email server, web host. All of their email and web addresses end with “riseup.net”
            – owners on this site hide behind names of birds
            http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/07/soros-funded-militant-group-claims-german-contingent-at-g20-protests/
            – “Refuse Fascism” — Antifa alias (one of several)
            – One of their sponsors is Alliance for Global Justice, funded by Soros

          • Punditator

            So, I guess he isn’t funding them after all. 8P

          • Claudia Weil

            You are posting some bullshit thing someone posted on YouTube as if that’s evidence of anything? Come on, there are all kinds of crazy videos promoting pretty much any theory or superstition you can think of. Ghosts, Mermaids, Alien lizard, Elvis is alive and well, Bigfoot. Stop believing anything you see on the internet.

          • Henry Stegner

            http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/03/look-who-funds-the-group-behind-the-call-to-arms-at-milos-berkeley-event/
            – More evidence of Antifa connection with Alliance for Global Justice: “According to its most recent 990 tax form, Alliance for Global Justice (AfGJ) received $2.2 million in funding for the fiscal year ending in March 2016.
            One of the group’s biggest donors is the Tides Foundation, a non-profit funded by billionaire progressive philanthropist George Soros. Tides gave AfGJ $50,000.”
            http://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2017/04/antifa-and-the-looney-left/

          • Henry Stegner

            Blog about Antifa. Details of connections they dug up between Antifa in the UK and a Soros-funded charity. Screenshot of the charity’s website showing their donation of 1500 euros to a Brighton Antifa group.
            “Antifa funding comes from hedge funds and 501C3’s, such as Edgefund.org.uk (…) and the ‘One People’s Project,’ or ‘RiseUp.’” (see riseup.net above)
            https://shadowproof.com/2017/02/25/professional-anarchist-soros-trump/

          • randy

            Your ignorance must just be BLISS.

          • Claudia Weil

            I give up, folks. Post away. We’ll see what comes out of the investigation. Until then, if conspiracy theories entertain you, go for it. I just hate to see people get worked up and paranoid. There are patriots of all backgrounds, there are people of many different political beliefs who care deeply about this country. We don’t want to go shooting groups of people. Crazy people do that. The shooter in Vegas, Devon Kelley, the people who shot up schools, they were all crazy, disturbed, violent individuals. Good, normal, sane Americans don’t want to go shooting people or driving into crowds, or setting off bombs. This isn’t a civil war. There are crazy, destructive people who are being riled up by the current scary political environment. Don’t make it worse by posting conspiracy theories and trying to make this an “us” versus “them.” We are all US and we want this country to be safe for our families.

          • zipper

            It is Definitely “us” versus “them.” If you don’t get that, once again, you are very ignorant to what’s going on.

          • Claudia Weil

            No, it’s not. Define “us”. We are Americans. We are a vast group of people from many different backgrounds with many different points of view. That’s part of what makes this country great. We have to stop threatening each other, and try to work together to stop all this fear-mongering and hate. Let’s work together.

          • zipper

            I am talking about those people who are trying to take-down the USA, not decent citizens. The Left DOES NOT want to “work together.” Again, you are woefully ignorant. (don’t mean that as an insult)

          • Ruth

            I can lay it out so that even YOU understand Claudia. It is Democrats/Liberals/Progressive (example the Clintons, Obamas, etc.) against Republicans/Conservatives (example the Reagan, Trump people etc.). I am happy to say I support the latter. Obama is much to blame for this, he has divided the nation more than any other president every did and Hillary was to continue the job, but thankfully we were spared the Hildebeast. If you can’t see that you are deaf, dumb and blind. I have a sister who thinks just like you. A well educated Master degree teacher with NO common sense. She is still bawling over Hillary’s loss. Blanking UnBelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Uncool

            Where is your evidence?

          • coloradobear

            Bull $hit! You need a mental enema, Pal.

          • Hassenbensober

            I guess you didn’t hear that some antifa members were protesting Soros because the wern’t paid.

          • Valerie Ventura

            Be Obama has said he has donated to resist group 8 millions not to be xact.

          • http://www.jihadwatch.org Attila K.

            HUH??? They don’t do anything themselves!
            Soros wouldn’t get out of bed long enough to dirty his greedy fingers!!!@#$%&*()○●□■♤♡◇♧☆▪¤《
            1234567890+×÷=/_[]()?

          • Peggy Hill

            Just because you say it doesn’t make it true. Where’s your proof.

          • Saracens

            well Claude you are wrong on that cuz antifa members basically wear the same thing and cover their face with embroidered handkerchiefs and fly fancy looking flags, that takes a lot of friggen money to pull off and these Muppets cant afford that “on their own” real money like what soro’s and Clinton/Obama tag team have. wake the f.. up stupid infant!!!!

          • Claudia Weil

            Oh come ON. Do you actually think that there is some giant conspiracy with Soros, Clinton, Obama, the left wing, and the lollipop crew? Seriously, lol.

        • Sasak

          ANTIFA members have said they are being paid. Who do you think is paying them? Soros, Hillary, and Obama. Don’t forget that Obama has associations with the weather underground, this is right up his alley.

          • Steve Morris

            Posers have said they are being paid. Posers are being paid by contard false-flaggers to claim they are “antifa” and paid by whomever.

        • Leon Foonman M.D.

          Fake Human, “Don Law”, almost sounds like a real person, except his IP address is in southern Russia. Try again, PutinBot

          • Robert Hayes

            Hey, Doc. Fuck off.

          • Don Law

            LMAO….Try again putz…. you obviously dont know what youre talking about….

      • Sasak

        It has EVERYTHING to do with them!

    • Just Sayin

      But the Nazi loving alt-right can plow into folks with a car..and they are “good people”…disgusting. BTW….Have you ever heard of waiting for the actual fact? Anyone can make up anything…and get gullible folks to believe it…without proof. Good lord.

      • Punditator

        What happened to that anyway? I suspect it comes down to it not being like the media sold it.

        • Just Sayin

          He killed someone, and has been arrested and charged with her murder. She is dead. Let me guess…it didn’t really happen on live tv? Good lord.

          • trixie1223

            But he wasn’t a Nazi. He was an Antifa member who drove his car into the crowd.

          • Claudia Weil

            He was too a Nazi or white supremacist. He was one of the nuts that traveled to go to that KKK/Nazi protest. Don’t go making things up.

          • trixie1223

            No, he was not. This is why the press stopped talking about him. I don’t even remember his name. You liberals are insufferable. You actually think the POTUS would applaud “good people” who are Nazis? do you honestly think the POTUS would do that? He is surrounded by Jewish friends and family members. He was talking about the regular citizens who were there at the protest exercising their rights. Not the Nazis. Idiots. This is why Obama’s legacy is trash. Trump undid every stupid thing Obama did. Obama never had a real job in his life. He visited gay bathhouses too.

          • Claudia Weil

            Trump is the most ignorant, useless, self-serving president we have ever had. Don’t make stuff up about Obama. One minute you folks are saying he’s Muslim, the next minute you’re saying he’s gay. Make up your minds. It doesn’t matter what you say, because he was an excellent president, was elected twice, and his intellect, poise, class, and moral standing are light years beyond Trump’s. I’m so sick of people making things up to support these idiotic conspiracy theories, or trying to trash everyone else so that Trump doesn’t look quite so awful in comparison. Lol.

          • trixie1223

            Enough people disagree with you enough for him to win the Presidency. You don’t speak for 65 million Americans. Obama is a hating self absorbed blow hard that never worked a day in his life before becoming President. And listen to you getting mad that Obama is being called Muslim and Gay. As if they’re insults. There’s your hypocrisy! You love gays until someone you love is accused of being one.

      • QuietMadness

        Have you forgotten the NYC killer did that? Convenient, huh. SMH. #SelectiveMemory

        • Lesní Samoty

          just saying is just a selected retard.

      • scott

        trump never said all the ppl in charlottesville we good ppl,only some.But I guess you can not understand the difference.When 1 muslims killed 50 queers in orlando,obama said,NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD PPL. Were you upset with that quote?

      • BooBooBaby

        ONE supposed Wannabe Nazi guy ran into people, and killed ONE WHITE GIRL, supposedly! But YOU Far Left Lunatics have been Terrorizing everyone and killing FAR MORE people, for WAY TOO LONG!
        Just a couple of months ago one of your beloved REFUGEES stormed a CHURCH in TENNESSEE and SHOT people and killed and THANK GOD he was taken out by a legal gun owner. You LEFTY LIARS don’t like to talk about that one.I could go on and on. Most of the NUTS are YOU Leftwing NUTJOBS!

      • Cal McMican

        the interesting thing about Charlottesville that there were never more than 125 initial KKK members there in the first place. Reports were saying several hundred, but there’s no photos that show more than 125 people

      • Pamela Gethard

        That man who plowed his car into people was a schizophrenic. His mother called the police a couple of times as he verbally and physically abused her. He had a fascination with Hitler, but he was mentally ill. As a sister of one, who suffers from bipolar disorder, life isn’t a bowl of cherries. When she is experiencing anxiety, even if she is strictly adhering to her medication regime, things can go downhill very quickly and reasoning is impossible. That was one thing the media didn’t mention. Shameful.

    • Just Sayin

      While Trump constantly violates the constitution…What does Obama have to do with this???? Seriously??

      • MDatBeach

        so tell me specifically what rights did trump violate/

      • Moses Wayne

        What part of the constitution has he violated? Obama is the one who violated the constitution throughout his entire Presidency. Obama created Antifa,

        • Claudia Weil

          Oh, come ON. You know that’s total bull. You don’t actually BELIEVE that, do you?

          • AuntieFran

            Talk about someone needing their meds!

          • Moses Wayne

            You didn’t answer my question. How ignorant are you to have supported a picnic planner who served kool-aid?

          • Claudia Weil

            What picnic? What Kool-Aid? Who am I supposed to have supported? You don’t make a lot of sense. Sounds like you are off in your own little conspiracy theory world.

    • Jane Goodwin

      And in due time Hillary and Obama will pay for their crimes. Sessions will be fine. We don’t need to know what he is going.

      • AuntieFran

        If our “you’re fired” president is keeping him on, you know he’s doing something right. Yes, he’s publicly criticized Sessions, but that could simply be laying the groundwork for something they have in mind.

        • Claudia Weil

          So now the presidency is a reality show? You are seriously calling him a “you’re fired” president?

          • Rocky

            Claudia, why don’t you go to bed?

    • Red47 Fully Biodegradable

      Antifa is classified as involved in terror activities, but they stopped short of naming the entire group. I think it is a legal issue.

      • Leon Foonman M.D.

        Did you just come from wiping Mike Cernovich butt with your face? ….Yes, you must’ve. Nice job.

    • wilbur

      He has been a Government employee for too long. Lazy and unproductive.

    • scott

      well,our last piece of shit potus and his ag never classified blm as a terror group

      • Claudia Weil

        Because most of them probably aren’t. There are crazies in every group, left AND right.

        • scott

          Nah,BLM aren’t terrorists,law abiding ppl always burn down cities,loot states and attack cops

    • Paul R Mincey
    • TexasVetgal

      Sessions is a sellout and globalist lackey of the Clintons.

    • Hassenbensober

      Not only that he is anti marijauna and wants the Feds to make arrests in states where it is legal. He says marijauna causes violence. I think he has been watching Reefer Madness.

    • mrparker1

      You mean SleepySessions?

    • Alexander Black

      Why does Trump keep him on? It’s a mystery.

    • David Schneider

      Sessions needs to step down. He has become very ineffectual.

    • Leon Foonman M.D.

      If you were an actual American and not a Bulgarian robot, we could track you down, pants you and spray paint your pussy with Trump stencils.

      • Pamela

        You should start by spraying your own pussy first. We need someone with the courage to prosecute.

    • HOOSIER DADDY ll

      Very good

    • Armyghy

      The fuck does obama have anything to do with this?

    • Doug Retter
      • deminthered

        TREY Gowdy? A German Shepherd? More likek a hamster.

        • Doug Retter

          You’re hamster….cuck!

          • deminthered

            Oh no you called me “cuck!” What a crushing blow. Snort.

          • Doug Retter

            No, I called you a hamster, Cuck!

          • deminthered

            That’s so cute. Gotta go, though, and celebrate the victory of the righteous in Virginia and New Jersey. Not sure about the others yet. Except Utah, of course, but that’s because it’s Utah.

          • Doug Retter

            The tiniest things these days, and you whack jobs get excited. Celebrate while you can because we are still draining your swamp. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43ba9595a4446c4a62f90968958867ae1c1c24c7405812b0d02fca1450b3acfc.jpg

        • Doug Retter

          You’re a hamster.

          • deminthered

            OMG LOL Really?
            You’re a hamster’s booger.
            Jesus.

          • Doug Retter

            My name isn’t Jesus, hamster.

          • Doug Retter

            My name is not Jesus, Peckerhead.

          • deminthered

            Oh drat, my reply disappeared. I think it said “and you, sir, are a hamster turd.” If that isn’t what it said, my apologies for the inaccuracy. And now I must go celebrate the victory of the righteous in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York. Others TBA except Utah, which is entirely predictable, being Utah.

          • Doug Retter

            Celebrate while you can, loser. Not a big victory for a Democrat to win in a solidly blue state. The swamp is being drained and you will go with it.

          • deminthered

            And regardless of what happens, you’ll still be trying to find a way to import your mail-order Russian bride. Maybe you should just move there. Probably you’d be welcome, and there might be a chance you’d avoid the attack being provoked by your fat orange idol. “Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me “old,” when I would NEVER call him “short and fat?” What a big baby. Maybe both of you would be less angry if you got laid (assuming, of course, that is possible).

          • Doug Retter

            My “Russian mail-order bride” has more education than you , me, and any two diseased gay atheist Peckerheads like you. The fact is, you pieces of human garbage lost the election. You need to stop whining and try to adjust to polite society, while you still can.

          • deminthered

            You are so often reduced to name calling because you have nothing substantive to say. In truth, of course, you have no idea how much education I have, nor knowledge of the state of my health, my sexual orientation, my religious beliefs, or whether I think with a penis rather than a brain. I, however, know that you had to buy a wife from Russia which speaks volumes about your desirability as a mate. Bless your heart.
            And oh, PS: it’s rather pointless to make your Discus account private whilst having so much personal information available on your Facebook profile. J/S
            Bye bye now.

          • Doug Retter

            I’m not reduced to anything. I’m describing what a jackass you are. Everyone else gets it, except for you. Also shows what a pathetic retard you are; Russians are not as smart as you!? Hahahahahaha! My wife has far more education, is far more sophisticated and has been far more successful than you could ever dream. (In your case, it is all homo wet dreams.) You are the sh-t pile who has no argument so you attack someone’s spouse. You again prove yourself to be a liberal chicken-sh-t low-life

          • deminthered

            Again, bless your tiny little heart, which still exceeds the size of your brain. I never claimed to be smarter than anyone. Except you.
            Maybe I’ll see you here some time but I won’t see you in any homo wet dreams or, since I’m a woman, in any hetero wet dreams either.
            Happy Thanksgiving.

    • David Redman

      Session is two faced and. 100% ineffective as AG.

    • mangomuffin2

      I’m not sure WHAT he is, but he certainly has not been helpful, with the exception of his efforts regarding MS-13.

    • Bobbie Russell

      Thank you. Sessions has to go and Mueller and the rest of his corrupt crew need to go also. Some of them to jail.

    • Barbara Hennon

      Amen. Session should be gone along with a bunch of others. They are protecting the bag guys and gals. Not working for America and the truth.

    • RosaAna Gonzalez-Blum

      I totally agree with you, we’ll said.

    • Kevin Blankenship

      Session recusing himself twice now makes one wonder why he is recusing himself, did he support Trump to thwart him from the inside? Was he involved in Uranium One? Why recuse over Uranium One and Clinton in general?

      • RageFury

        Are we sure Sessions recused on Uranium One? Sessions ungagged the informant quite handily and probably for a reason. Also, he serves at Trump’s leisure. Trump would fire him in a heartbeat, if he was not doing what Trump wants. Sit back, be patient. Hillary is one slippery snake…

    • RageFury

      They already are classified as ‘Domestic terrorists’. Politico 2017/09/01/

    • 94912070

      I concur.

    • RockyMountainBeerMan

      “Always accuse your enemies of what you yourself are doing.” Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals. HRC’s thesis in college

      Hence, Communists using the term, “Antifa” to announce they are fighting against fascism, when they are, in fact, fight *for* fascism.

      In other words, the word is out, “Antifa”s, and we all know what your are up to.

    • elixer8062

      If only we had a POTUS who could hire the AG. Oh, wait a second.

    • Dr. Pepper

      They are classified as a terrorist group, but the Clinton Obama lefty Communists won’t harm George Soros’ pet projects to help destroy the US so they get their BS NWO for the Rothschilds. With all that is blowing up right now and their arab funding frozen they have to really kiss ass to try to keep their necks out of the ropes they all deserve and are legally owed

    • Leni

      I believe there is more regarding Sessions we are not privy to. And it may not be what a lot of people are thinking and it may not be all bad. Time will tell. God bless

    • Christopher Mooney

      It’s plain scary, how easily you get manipulated by Russian fake news sites. This article is completely fake

    • oandroplex700

      very well said……..I truly hope, The President replaces him, quickly……. as sessions, truly has proven, he”s worthless

    • Robert Quarles

      How about the KKK being classified as a terrorist group? They’ve been doing this kind of stuff a lot longer! What’s Obama and Hilary got to do with it? Why is it when anyone with a foreign sounding name does stuff like this…they’re quickly identified as “terrorist” but when a white, male, American does it, who by the way have committed the most heinous mass murders in America, does it, they’re “mentally’ unbalanced! until you can honestly answer that question, stop placing blame on people who aren’t even in office….ask the one who is!

    • Minority Privelege

      No one is going to fix this FOR you.

      Its time to water the tree of liberty with our sacrifice.

    • MarkThisDown

      If you had the brains to research before vomiting up your “facts”… aw forget it. No point.

    • Leon Foonman M.D.

      Another PutinTroll who wants to protect Nazi Snowflakes from hippies with bandanas. Many died fighting to stop Nazis, now “John Ham” wants to give them Your Country because he thinks Nazis are victims.

    • Corey Gray

      Or, like most of the world, you really don’t understand the practices employed in high finance and large international corporations…
      Not surprising, as most people DO want to be rich, so if they understood those processes, they would BE rich…as they are NOT rich, or running such companies, it’s self-demonstrating that they don’t grasp the processes.

      Think…Trump’s a financier. A good bit of his money has been made through doing EXACTLY what Richard Gere’s character did in “Pretty Woman”…hostile takeover, rip the company apart, sell the pieces off at profit. The REST comes from “hostile takeover, then restructure, then ABSORB.”…he’s BUILT very little, excepting when it’s been a rebranding or remodelling of one of those “takeovers”.

      But there’s a pattern to doing this. ESPECIALLY when you know it’s a “hostile takeover”, and former management has left MANY loyalists in place…so first you have to figure out who the loyalists are, and what kind of trouble they can cause…this is done by making things MORE disorganized for a little bit, and putting a complete ass at the head of the department.

      This causes those people to stand up and rebel…the most vehement of them. Pretend you can’t get rid of those people, for some reason…more stand up. This is faster and more efficient than hiring someone to investigate every person you suspect, and means you find more you WOULDN’T have suspected…so you catch more of them with less effort, in less time, and don’t have to PROVE any indictable crime…they did it PUBLICLY.

      Then you have the first round of serious cuts…you cut conspirators off from their immediate operatives, and get rid of the uppermost active loyalists…and see who decides it’s time to be a good little drone, and forget all about the former management. You replace the first asshat with a second person…one who actually has their people DOING something…they drive the people remaining…trying to make them quit or rebel so they can be fired.

      Then you have your second replacement…this one being the person you actually believe can RUN the department, not flush out problems.

      A businessman thinks in terms of “most effect for least effort and cost”…this is NOT an approach we’re used to in politics…in politics, therefor, it looks like confusion and ineffective action to us…because it’s not what we’re USED to seeing as a pattern from so-called “professionals”…but people forget that just because a method is favored by “professionals” doesn’t mean there aren’t better, different, or more effective methods available…if that wasn’t true, technology would never advance and new records in sports would never be achieved, nor would new information in science ever be discovered.

    • Alvin431

      I guess you’d rather have Lynch or Holder back in that position. They are the ones that allowed all this ANTIFA and riots progress to whre we are now.

    • David Worley

      And you said Nothing about george soros who owns the democrats and 70% of the RINO republicans. Soros just set up a new foundation to sponsor groups like antifa, blm , new black panthers and more. soros created all these groups for a specific agenda to create havoc and civil division among Americans.

    • Jade_Eyes

      It’s already classified as a terrorist group.

  • blondemama

    he has no ears?

  • Fiema’u e Tokoni
    • Claudia Weil

      This is such garbage. “Atheists” happen not to believe in any particular organized religion. Atheists have NO interest in killing people who practice a religion.

      • TXMomof2

        I guess you have never studied the history of communism then. Go research why communists are all atheists.

        • Claudia Weil

          What about the Catholic Workers?

          • TXMomof2

            Deflection, no response, typical liberal.

          • Robert Hayes

            (((Liberal)))

          • Claudia Weil

            Not deflection, an honest question. I was under the impression that there was a group of very devout Catholics who were someone communist. Now, I admit, I didn’t study the entire history of communism, but I seriously thought there were Catholic communists. Maybe not. Anyway, communists might tend to be atheist, but not all atheists are communist.

      • Scooter Biggs

        Just suing the **** out of them, right?

      • Uncool

        Paid soros troll

  • scoutout

    This is propoganda bullshit. There was ONE SHOOTER!! He was NOT ANTIFA. Though you wish he was, but he was not.

    • Chezleigh Honolulu

      is it? How can I know, other than if it is true CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc will kill the story ASAP?

      • Claudia Weil

        This is such garbage. Mainstream news media are NOT antifa.

        • Reggie1971

          They don’t have to be members to be sympathetic to antifa.

          • Claudia Weil

            Now you’re going to claim that anyone who questions whatever Trump says or does is Antifa.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, not bad for a fake news page, but it’s obviously a troll.

  • Angie MacGeil

    Prayers to all. This was a sick lone wolf

    • Michael L

      Yeah, a sick pair of lone wolves…

    • Reggie1971

      A “lone wolf”? How do you know this exactly?

  • Cato Maior

    fake news af

    • Anonymous

      I know, the screenshot of the text messages is way too detailed to be real… I think the Left finally learned how to troll, as of maybe a week ago. Twitter comments are all people posing as Alt-Right and saying things so clearly meant to make the Right look bad it’s not even funny. Glad most of us are smarter than that.

      • Max

        Or, maybe, just maybe, this is alt-right propaganda to make the left look bad?

  • Steve the Jeffersonian

    Arrest the folks who agreed with the terrorist and support him.

    Seditious conspiracy. Make a big deal of the arrests, to shut these anti-American terrorist down.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c182677bb9c4ee3a5377017401c002fde880c3d43416245f1426f41dc2f1fba.jpg

    • Claudia Weil

      He’s just some crazy gun nut. This isn’t part of some big conspiracy.

      • flagirl336

        And you know this because….?

        • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

          she/he/it doesnt.

          • Claudia Weil

            Oh, so now, not only am I a commie, I’m an it? Lol, you are grasping at straws.

      • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

        oh shut up the hell up

      • Punditator

        There are millions of crazy gun nuts that don’t go into churches and shoot people.

        • orly?

          Some of them go to Walmarts, Some go to Vegas…

          • Punditator

            But 99.9999% of them don’t do anything.

          • orly?

            Only if you define every firearm owner as a ‘gun nut’. I’m armed, I don’t consider myself a ‘gun nut’.

        • Just Sayin

          Did you forget Dillan Roof who walked in and murdered 9 people in an church? Black folks. Because they were black?

          • trixie1223

            Did you forget the black Somalian who killed a killed a woman in church a few weeks ago? He was black. Oh my God he was a black guy. Holy hell. Black. A black dude.

      • Timothy Gunter

        First you chastise others for popping off before evidence is even collected… and somehow, you have it all figured out? One word…HUBRIS!

      • Steve the Jeffersonian

        Crazy leftist antifa commie gun nut prompted by Soros…

  • Lisa Willingham

    If these communism want to play cowboy and communism, let’s play. Take them out NOW before anymore good folks are hurt or killed

  • Richard Thompson

    We shall know soon enough. If it’s ANTIFA then the main street media will not cover it after today. They won’t speak badly of their own. If not, then they will not shut up about gun control.

    • Claudia Weil

      Wait, so NOW you are saying that the media are antifa? Do you know how crazy you sound? Seriously, stop reading alt.right conspiracy sites.

      • m-dasher

        you mean just like Charlotettesville…..where the media would only refer to Antifa as “innocent counter protesters”.

      • Richard Thompson

        No. I’m not saying the media are Antifa. But I am saying that the media is not calling out this group for who they really are. The media has portrayed them as some sort of patriotic freedom fighters. Chris Cuomo from CNN even compared them to our WWII vets fighting against Hitler. The New York Times printed a full page ad announcing the revolution that was supposed to start yesterday. I could go on. These are Soros backed anarchists. They are not freedom fighters. But the media will not portray them for what they really are. Because President Trump said they were just as bad as the KKK. Which they are. So if President Trump thinks they are bad. Then the media thinks they are good. Plain and simple.

      • AuntieFran

        The lamestream media are NOT Antifa, but they are bought and paid for by Soros. And you, my dear, need to stop reading alt-left publications.

    • jj333

      The mainstream media will cover for them as they usually do. George Soros’ money has bought a lot of souls!

  • Anonymous

    Please, for the love of god, realize this is a fake news page, and don’t react in the comments as if it were real, or share this with other people (you’ll look like a moron in the morning).

    • TXMomof2

      The facebook page is not fake and still has the current comments about getting churches ! https://www.facebook.com/IGDnews/

      • orly?

        How do you know that? Looks like a russian run propaganda page to me.

        • TXMomof2

          Nice try paid bot.

          • orly?

            Wow, great retort.

          • TXMomof2

            Thanks!

          • orly?

            What other fake news do you fall for?

  • James Ripley

    they said this was over in 15 seconds. doing what this article says they did would take a while. i smell some fake news.

    • Punditator

      This article, like everything else here is BS.

      • Moses Wayne

        Then why are you on this page?

        • orly?

          Seeing the idiots that fall for it is entertaining. So, thanks!

  • http://brittainforsenate.com Brittain for US Senate

    ARMFOR shows us Devin Patrick Kelley was declined appeal (Court Martial) on March 10th, 2014.
    No. 14-0387/AF CCA 38267.

    • ginny_cw

      You are correct.

  • disqus_ZoTkgnnndJ

    Nothing about TWO shooters in the press conference.

  • snaphanen

    Antifa member?? Eh, source?

    • Benny Oaks

      his facebook page.

      • Claudia Weil

        That was a fake FB page. Look it up.

  • Free Tomorrow

    It has been confirmed more than one shooter. what is the status on the second shooter? Does this mean that anyone who claims more than one shooter suddenly disappears or meets a strange death occurrence? This is starting to reek of more than what they are telling us. If the story changes every day for a week, then we will know.

    • Deplorable Dan

      What happens in Vegas stays in vegas……..Unless you tell people there was more than one shooter, then it follows you home and kills you there.

  • top_of_the_food_chain
    • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

      so what

  • Michael L

    Good thing his facebook was taken down so fast… gotta keep people from being worried.

  • EMW

    What a bizarre mix of truth and fiction.

  • DreamGirlsDaily

    Another hoax by the fake “media”.

  • CJWA

    this is a fake news website. They doctored the image. Look for that image anywhere else… Also you can see the bad photoshop job.

    • cpat2020

      I can’t stand ANTIFA but I also loathe fake news. My spouse is an expert in images and manipulation (truly, he works for a large corporation doing it). I’m going to get him to look at it. He should be able to tell instantly.

  • TruePatriot

    If we see one ANTIFA flag or anyone ANTIFA they are now terrorists, and free game… you all have a target on your backs now, congratulations ANTIFA you are simply Domestic terrorists, and We the people are within our righs Constitutionally to take you out, now if we see you with an ANTIFA flag and being aggressive you are a deadly threat….

    • Claudia Weil

      Shame on you. Why would you want to shoot other Americans just for expressing a different political opinion?

      • John Flerianos

        Claudia, go back to the kitchen you stupid skank

        • Claudia Weil

          Now you guys are just ganging up on me, lol. Is this how your mother taught you to talk to women?

  • ginny_cw
  • jim marcum

    well. I am Christian. I am whitey. So here I am boys.

  • Edmund Burke

    Sessions seemed so eager to assume this position and sounded so on board with the “agenda’. what gives? Ever since he was accused of inappropriately meeting with a Rooskie and not mentioning it, he seems like he was deballed.

  • Punditator

    There are no casual conversations being had with people that were inside ATM.

  • Edmund Burke

    Mayors and local judges, Circuit judges must be changed. Liberal mayors and judges who interpret the law with extreme laxity for individual dissent must be eliminated for others who will authorize police depts. to break the heads of antifas members with truncheons. Antifas membership must be defined as domestic terrorists.

  • Clarissa Green

    What a surpise ! Who else could it be?

    • Edmund Burke

      you’re a real pos, aren’t you? And i get a kick out of so many of you scum referring to Potus as “fat.” the guy has a typical American, husky build, you ho.

      • orly?

        AKA, “fat”.

        • Edmund Burke

          Get use to your “fat” by your definition potus for two terms. you are losers.

          • orly?

            I’m pretty sure Donny is fat by AMA’s definition of obese. Have you shopped in the ‘husky’ section your whole life?

          • Edmund Burke

            again, go ahead and dwell on minors. the point is, you guys are not being effective. your showing Sat/4th was indicative of that. Pathetic.

          • orly?

            It’s ‘you’re’, not ‘your’. What was Sat/4th, we don’t all keep up with your alternate reality.

          • Edmund Burke

            boy are you a stupid fck. In no place did I miss a contraction. And please, get out into the sun once in a while or get tv service in the basement with a dirt floor. “you’re” not up to date with current events, jeesh what a stooge, didn’t know about antifas yesterday. anyways, i’m done with you, little boy, you bore me, so don’t bother replying.

          • orly?

            “I’m taking my toys and going home”, what a baby. Sorry I don’t keep up on the fake news like you cool kids. BTW, what’s a “basenet with a dirt floor”?

          • Claudia Weil

            I think it has something to do with the helicopters they want to throw everyone out of.

    • Scooter Biggs

      I bet your pushing a 10 yourself… and an ugly feminist.

  • Kill the King

    It will all be swept under the rug

  • orly?

    “News. Truth. Unfiltered Bu!!$*t.”

    Your news wire, land of the deceived, home of the sheep.

  • Jan

    People automatic ask was the shooter white or black. The same with the church. It does matter the color. This is humans we are killing. Old young ones. Got to watch out when you start messing with the LORDS people. Prayers for all involved. Yes the shooters also. They had problems really bad.

  • Delilah✔

    Antifa thug terrorists.

  • Tippie

    Jeff session is a rhino republican

  • George Lindell

    Another antifa attack!! I mean ISIS/

    • Scooter Biggs

      One in the same.

      • Claudia Weil

        Wow, you really ARE confused, aren’t you?

  • Madkate

    Fake news ..no ears..fake picture

  • Patriot42

    A liberal I am, sure

  • Scooter Biggs

    Sessions had better step the **** up.

  • Michael Richards

    So the murderer was a WHITE DEMOCRAT. That sure as hell messes up a lot of posts!

    • orly?

      Hmm? I thought democrats were all scared of guns? What gives?

  • Sasak

    ANTIFA needs to be declared a terrorist organization, Let all conservative Christians start packing their guns to church. I know that next Sunday, I will have mine!

  • Cassie Banks

    It’s truly sad when Russian propaganda is so lazy they can’t even use a REAL photo to spread their manipulation to the weak-minded. That flag photo is not an Antifa USA photo.

    • orly?

      Next you’re going to say that some church goers in a small TX town wouldn’t identify a fake antifa flag while under gunfire!

  • John Tyler

    Reposting
    Christian churches, black and white Congregations, need to start allowing conceal carry from their membership to help protect the membership from so many being killed. Only a good guy with a GUN can stop such carnage.

  • scott

    so,does the anquifa flag get banned now,after all,it was used in a hate crime,just like roof with the confederate flag

    • orly?

      The gullible is strong with you.

      • scott

        He went to that church to kill unarmed ppl like the pussy anquifa looks for. Fuck you and anquifa

        • orly?

          Hey, don’t let reality get in the way of your itty bitty pity party.
          He was another wife beating, child abusing, rightwing gun nut who went to kill people at his in-law’s church. I assume he expected some level of armed resistance, otherwise why would he wear a ballistic vest with a chest plate?
          Now, I’m not part of this ‘antifa’ movement, but wasn’t antifa part of the group that showed up to protest the heavily armed Nazis in Charleston? Wasn’t that where the pussy Nazi drove his car into an unarmed crowd?
          Are you upset with yourself that you’re a Nazi pussy?
          LOL!

          • scott

            So because I disagree with you,I’m a Nazi. I bet if we were face to face,you’d rethink that. Anquifa are a bunch of masked faggot that attack unarmed ppl like in berkely. Charlottesville,thats all you idiots have,how about5 dead cops by a blm terrorist? Fuck you,get a job and move out of mommy’s basement. BTW,if the air firce released the information to ther fbi about this guys past,he would never have been allowed to own a gun

          • orly?

            No, no, no, that would be silly. You’re a Nazi because you lash out at anti-Nazis, and you support Nazis and Nazi-like traitor flag supporters.
            You’re also a homophobe, which likely means you’re gay and repressing your feelings (That’s okay though, most people don’t care about that anymore). Being black does not mean he was BLM and his actions prove he was not BLM. You probably don’t know that because you read and trust wing nut propaganda sites like this one.
            Left my folks place when I was 17, almost 30 years ago, stop projecting.
            There would have been nothing, nothing at all that would have prevented him from amassing an arsenal of the same weapons from private sellers. Private sellers who are not required to conduct a background check. It’s a loophole big enough to fly an A-10 through.

            Now, go to school, learn to spell, learn some logic and reason and stop being a racist, ignorant blight on society.

          • scott

            I don’t support anyone but my family,oh a nd a bunch of welfare freeloaders,and illegals. So go fuck yourself,calling me a homophobe,a racist,an islamaphobe etc. Liberals always think because you just think for yourself you’re a racist. But whatever I am,it’s better than having my head up my ass like you

          • orly?

            My poor computer tried to ‘text to talk’ your trump like rambling, but it just sounded like a fart.

          • scott

            Me and my ol lady bring in 110k a year,we live in pennsy,kids go to Catholic school and we pay more than our share of school taxes to make sure those poor minority kids can waste that free education

          • scott

            So if you left home 30 plus years ago,you’re about 50,if at 50 youred head is still so far up your ass you call ppl a NAZI you have serious mental issues and need to be institutionalized for the good of humanity. I never burned a cross,gassed az Jew or bashed a queer. But you know who did,democrats and socialists.

          • Elliott Stevens

            Actually no, it’s your gullible fuck Trumpie filth and trash that do. How stupid do you feel now that we know Antifa wasn’t involved? You should feel real stupid, just like those trump rally dirtbags, willing to believe any little rant he spews.

          • orly?

            Scott, take a good look at yourself. First, you get your ‘information’ from garbage sites like this one. Second, you clearly have an issue correctly processing and comprehending what you read. (‘almost’ does not mean ‘greater than’)
            It’s no wonder you have history all discombobulated. You’ve taken GIGO to the power of 2.

          • scott

            Wrong,he was a democrat,his fb page had a shit ton of democrat shit,it was taken down within an hr of the shooting

          • orly?

            Right, and he had antifa flags too, right? You’re so gullible.

  • fireart

    There would be no Antiha if Hillary had not agreed with their actions in the beginning. She would not admit defeat and encouraged this group by her inaction.

  • Bolt Upright

    Definitely a Choom gang leader voter.

  • Paul Revere
  • you wantthis1

    Claudia Weil <— alt-left liberal, Antifa defender IDENTIFIED.
    Report at will.

    • Claudia Weil

      Oh, come ON. Lol. I have never ONCE defended Antifa or ANY OTHER VIOLENT GROUP.

  • Harold

    Time for some ANTIFA payback.

    • Edmund Burke

      I just have fantasies of hittin’ them upside the head with the truncheons the cops wont use.

      • Claudia Weil

        So you want to be violent toward other human beings? That’s terrible. Let’s not advocate violence from ANY political groups.

      • Claudia Weil

        That’s violent. Violence on either side is wrong.

  • Dennis Sanders

    Obamas legacy

    • Brian

      Yup. He built a lot of it.

  • randy

    I just love it when infanticide advocates say they want to take our guns because they care about human beings.

  • John Tyler

    Out of Obama’s own mouth:
    “if they bring a knife, we will bring a gun”

  • Kenny Dalglish

    ANTIFA and the Jews who protect and fund them need to be rounded up and charged as terrorists right the fk now

  • randy

    If the Republicans ever take a majority in Congress, they will investigate all of these democrat misdeeds. Right?

    • Strife

      No. But when the Conservatives take over they will.

  • John Aldridge

    Except that he was actually a registered Republican and a Trump supporter. Fucking morons that you are.

    • eIec2O16

      Name your source bl1ch

    • Strife

      Evidence please. Cite it troll.

    • Brian

      New profile usually = new troll. Or old troll who needed to change their screen name. Enough lying already.

      • V. M. Varga

        100 comments gives it away. There’s a few of these idiots posting here with less than 100 comments. My bet is they’re all the same person or a few.

        • Max

          Lmao. Why do you think other people use Disqus like a social media account? Most people just use it when they want to comment on a random news article they found, and they have to use Disqus. I trust someone with 100 comments a lot more than I trust someone who somehow has 10,000 comments.

    • V. M. Varga

      Actually I came across something that stated he was unaffiliated.

  • TheGoodSideOfHistory

    Fake news

    • eIec2O16

      My BS meter is going off too but this IS how a lot of Antifa talk.

  • Gary Wendell Stanfield

    This is all Jesuit controlled Social Justice. They are the ones who started Fascism, Communism, Nazism, Marxism, Liberation Theology and have taken not only the U.S. Government over and the Supreme Court, but the Education System too. Thus, producing these idiots of today who have no clue, they are causing their own demise and future slavery under the Papacy’s One World Order.

  • That’s Mr Patriot to you

    Hey Libtards, he was one of yours. Imagine that.

    carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.

    • Kenny Dalglish

      i knew it as soon as i heard it was a small church in a conservative county, same as the vegas shooter. both radicalized left wing nutjobs

    • eIec2O16

      If true it would be of severe importance for the government to cover it up in the interest of national security since these Antifa are doing this to spark a civil war..We don’t have to do nothing though homeland security will eventually declare them a terrorist group and they will all be eating Cawkmeat sandwiches in GITMO soon.

    • orly?

      When you look up “gullible” in the dictionary there’s a picture of ‘That’s Mr Patriot to you’.

    • Claudia Weil

      This is total bull. Total garbage. You are falling for a giant sack of lies.

    • Claudia Weil

      Total bull.

      • darren ruff

        antifa met with isis during G20…THEY ARE ISIS

  • Mark Villalta

    And they want to disarm the American people, This is only going to get worse, It will get to the point where these lost idiot anfifa kids will be shot every time they are in public starting their hate speech crap, People need to beware of what is going on That the clinton crime family, obama ,soros and the rest of the globalist are backing these groups and creating division with the people For no other reason then to destroy the American way of life,

    • orly?

      You should head to Costco to stock up on tinfoil.

    • Claudia Weil

      The American way of life? You mean like free speech? Freedom of religion? The people who want to kill democrats, black people, gay people, etcetera are the ones who are destroying true American values.

  • john barleycorn
  • Joe

    Keep guns away from liberals and the mentally ill….

    • Claudia Weil

      Keep guns away from anyone who believes alt.right conspiracy theories.

  • Joe

    Ryan Miller is a registered pedophile

  • coloradobear

    So now I wonder how long it will take our government to declare Antifa a communist terrorist group and send our military after them. They have declared war on Christianity and on all christian Americans. My gloves are off and I hope this government of ours gets a set of balls and declares war on them. Just let me see any of them with their flag and I am certain I will prevail. This was the act of cowards. That’s what they are and they deserve no less than what they gave to those people in that church. Our nation is at war from within and we need to SERIOUSLY see that.

  • Iggy

    Those tweets about what happened inside the church sound about as credible as my sprouting wings….

    Anyone should need confirmation on any facts, but this reads like a load of BS coming from typical internet trolls.

    I have no problem believing he might be ANTIFA. The fact he targeted a church speaks for itself. But these quotes above? Most likely pure BS….

    • GandalfsTrouserpress

      Looks put together to me.

      • Iggy

        Yup. Internet trolls yanking chains. You get to where you can spot them. They have to make it mimic reality enough to be credible but then put in a few absurd items so they can point fingers and say it was so obvious so they can discredit readers…. It’s a catch-22 for them that means they are usually spotted right away…

        The ANTIFA flag draping and Das Capital were too much….

        • GandalfsTrouserpress

          But it’s probably not that far from the truth.
          I think a lot of citizens and church goers are going to be visiting gun suppliers this week.

          • Iggy

            Trolls just trying to get a thrill by stirring people up have to get close to the truth just to make the BS items they throw in seem credible —- but still BS enough to laugh at those they dupe.

            Trolls with a purpose want to muddy the waters with disinformation in order to discredit anyone who wants to remain focused on the truth or get to the bottom of it. —- The “conspiracy nut” method….

          • GandalfsTrouserpress

            Well, their ‘wind up’ strategy may unwind spectacularly.
            Killing cops and churchgoers has its limits and there are many well armed defenders.

          • Iggy

            I was focusing only on Internet trolls….Those who are apolitical and just get some kind of thrill misleading people….and the operative kind who create confusion for a reason…

  • Flatterly VonFlanders

    This is a fake news site guys.

    • Get over it – You lost

      I was afraid of that – thanks

    • ScottishKnight

      Sure Fattery

  • White Lightning

    Thank goodness for the neighbor that had a gun that took out that evil person before the law even got there.

  • LiveFreeOrDie

    report all of these pages and commenters to facebook.

    • Claudia Weil

      You mean like the right wing extremists saying we should lock up democrats and shoot leftists? Yes, these people are dangerous and have no understanding of how America is supposed to work.

      • LiveFreeOrDie

        Facebook got back to me. They will DO NOTHING about these posts or pages. F facebook.

  • TexanForever

    He was late by a day. The New York Times full page Antifa ad called for nationwide violence on the 25th. This Antifa bastard was only a day late.

    Does the New York Times share responsibility for this carnage by running the Antifa ad several days ago? … Why isn’t anyone else connecting the dots?
    .

    • Iggy

      The call was for the uprising to begin the 3rd and really kick off the 4th and then continue until Trump was forced out of office.

      The ANTIFA call mirrors the pagan/satanic holiday period around Halloween thru the 4th…..

      http://www.theopenscroll.com/hosting/SatanicCalendar.htm

  • Thomas

    Who says he was Antifa? Just this writer. Why no sources? Makes it kind of hard to believe.

    • Iggy

      The idea is that the 2nd hand witness passing along hearsay has the straight dope — with items like the ANTIFA flag being draped over the alter and a copy of Das Capital pulled out ———- which is about as likely as a cow jumping over the moon….but is typical of the efforts of internet trolls….

    • Uncool

      Where are your sources that it is not?

    • V. M. Varga

      Sure, he was just bored and wanted to try out his new gun. Get lost…

  • susanjmaki

    Both ANTIFA and BLM have yet to hold protests that don’t turn into riots. They should both be categorized as terrorists!

  • ScottishKnight

    Antifa

  • Peter Combs

    THis Antifa crap is utter BS, they’ve already figured out from FB file image histories the photo was edited and the flag was added. This page is just total BS.

    • GandalfsTrouserpress

      That page was fake, some others are not.

  • zipper

    The FBI will still be looking for a motive 6 weeks from now. But, it’s right here in this article. It’s time to play hunt ‘n kill with Antifa.

    • Brian

      I would love to, but it is exactly what they want. Especially when they have a complicit media to push the lies for them.

      That being said I think they are hanging themselves.

      • zipper

        Groups like Antifa, CAIR, MOA, DSA, etc., are all openly or clandestinely subversive. Yet, the authorities do NOTHING to arrest the leadership & members. There has to be something behind that, and I am certainly not a conspiracy-type.

        • Claudia Weil

          Yeah, well, groups like the KKK, neo-nazis, and the extreme far right are subversive. They want to take the country away from the majority of the people and force everyone to follow their own beliefs.

          • zipper

            The country would be well-served by getting rid of All of them.

        • orly?

          “I am certainly not a conspiracy-type.”
          Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

          • zipper

            If you don’t know that the groups I mentioned are just that, you need to do some research. The “facts” are all over the place. Of course, if you belong to any of those groups, well….

          • orly?

            Yeah, zipper, the facts are out there. Like the fact that police charged over 200 people with felonies related to the ‘antifa’ protests during Trump’s inauguration. You chose to ignore the facts that don’t support your conspiracy theories.
            My objection stands.

          • zipper

            Invalid point. ALL those groups I mentioned(+ others) are alive & well, and still pursuing their disruptive agenda. So the police “charged” 200 with felonies, what was the final outcome? What was the result of that on disbanding those subversive groups, or even curtailing their activities?
            You are the one ignoring the facts of the situation. FYI, I do not buy into conspiracy theories, but if a plausible scenario for observed events is offered I’ll consider it, pending supporting evidence.
            Objection overruled!

          • orly?

            I’m ignoring the facts of the situation? Sure, okay, why don’t you march on down to ‘Antifa’ headquarters with the authorities and shut them down. Then go shut down the ‘racists’. Finish up by taking down the ‘meanies’.
            “I do not buy into conspiracy theories”, right, you just trust information from this conspiracy website. LOL

        • Brian

          None of this is a conspiracy. It’s all out in the open.

    • orly?

      Damn, zipper head is one gullible, easily tricked fool. Sad sheep!

      • zipper

        Seeing as how you, in all your deluded “wisdom,” know all the facts and have everything figured-out, why don’t you tell us the way it is? (and try it without the insults)

        • orly?

          You get your information from yournewswire, ipso facto, you’re a gullible fool.

          • zipper

            This article was the first time I’ve ever seen anything from “yournewswire.” I never even heard of them before this. What they said here was repeated from a few other sources, so I believed it. If you have a guaranteed, bs-proof source for reliable reporting of events, I’d be much obliged if you’d turn me on to it.
            It seems more & more that there is purposeful deception from news sources, even non-MSM outlets. Almost can’t trust Any of them anymore.

          • Uncool

            All of these trolls were set up by media matters and antifa to defend, distract and discredit.

          • zipper

            Thanks. I’m a bit naive about the tricks played on some of these comment boards.

    • Claudia Weil

      This article is fake. How can you not see that?

      • zipper

        And you are Sure it’s fake, because……?

  • Uncool

    Claudia Weil = dangerous. Many, many comments defending and educating about ANTIFA.

    • Claudia Weil

      Not a single comment defending Antifa. Not one. You are now trying to troll me, and that’s pretty hostile. If you want to discuss current events, great. If you want to make up crap about other people, go find someone else to play with.

  • Ecclesiastes 10.2

    Not only was Devin Kelley Antifa
    http://yournewswire.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

    But Antifa called for attacks on “conservative churches”
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN54UZQW0AYhhW0.jpg:large

    This was an attack by the left just like the Vegas shooting on Country music concer goers.

    The MSM is NOT covering this angle at all!!!

    People, if you don’t have a gun and rifle to protect yourselves from these crazy liberals, you’re endangering you and your loved ones. Get to the gun store and buy weapons and plenty of ammo

    Liberalism is a mental disorder and unfortunately it affects half the entire country. These people can’t figure how when a person becomes a living being (abortion), don’t know when a male is a male and a female is a female (gender confused), are advocating sex and relationships with machines and animals and don’t even understand that the climate change they are freaking out over is of us call seasonal weather changes.

    • Claudia Weil

      Awww, you are so cute.

      • Steve Angell

        Claudia he was registered UAF back in Colorado. He is Antifa just a fact. UAF is the older version of Antifa.

  • Michael

    Time to label ANTIFA a terrorist organization.

    • V. M. Varga

      As soon as Jeff Sessions gets off the shuffleboard court, he will act upon this lol….

  • Raed Almohandis

    And he is not terrorist? Oh, give me a break!

  • http://www.mauicomputer.com Jesse Francis

    Ok ok you people realize what website your viewing this article on right?

    • Obama’s Pilgrim

      F**k off leftist scum.

    • Brian

      Then it should be easy to prove them wrong. Go for it.

    • V. M. Varga

      22 comments? How many accounts have you signed up for today haha!

  • Alley Oop

    FB took the page down because it is fake. Are you dolts really so lacking in compassion and morality that you would use this tragedy to embrace stupidity beyond compare? A pox on your houses and your Mothers would be ashamed of you.

    • Obama’s Pilgrim

      Sure they did.

    • Brian

      Who do you think that you are fooling? People laugh at you.

    • Obama’s Pilgrim

      It was taken down one hour after the shooting, the name of the shooter was only leaked hours after the shooting.

      OOPS

      Nice job LYING

      • Brian

        Isn’t that what Leftists do best? Lie.

        • Obama’s Pilgrim

          pretty much. ANTIFA scum trying to protect themselves.

    • GandalfsTrouserpress

      They take the pages down because they are real and point out the affiliations of the shooter.
      There are fake ones too just to mess things around a little.
      A pox? Dolts? Educated but ill-informed it seems.

  • Carrie Kaufmann

    I just love the way people avoid the truth and facts, I guess 8 years of brain washing does that or maybe that “Arts” degree from college did it, either way it’s a cold stone fact our government has been crooks for years, that’s how they make so much money and have the things we only dream of, the Clintons are prime examples of making millions of dirty dollars and the cry baby snowflakes just wont believe they are crooks, I may not agree with all Trump says or does but one sure thing is he is working and making things better for all, and he does this while baby sitting the cry babies. Antifa is a product of people who were not shown how to respect others, they have been in a comfort zone with the parents giving them everything, now they refuse to grow up and be productive, they think the world is a video game, the real world scares them so in turn they will try and fail at making America comfort them and do what they want like small children, all these groups who choose violence to speak or preach should be shipped out of America, made to live in another country, then the real world will sink in and they will be Thankful for America and beg to come back.

    • Claudia Weil

      Trump is the biggest crook of all. Rips off small business people, creates a fake university, declares bankruptcy to get out of paying for things, STILL, after all this time, refuses to release his tax returns… Not supporting Hillary or Antifa or anything, but you know perfectly well that Trump is just a cynical asshole who wants people to glorify him.

      • Ruth

        You didn’t support Hillary? LIAR.

  • Leon Foonman M.D.

    Looks like Putin’s propaganda MACHINE has duped RightWing sorts with a Faked Photo and a false claim about this guy being an Antifa activist. This SAME hoax was propagated by the same morons about Steve Paddock the Las Vegas mass shooter. It’s one thing to kill a church full of innocents and a whole Other Kind of Sick MF that spreads lies about what happened to further some political axe they want to grind. The USA is full of Gullible, Weak minded drips, who are led around by Creeps like Alex Jones and his ilk. Some patriots, more like the Nazi collaborators they defend as Confederate heroes or whatever. I weep for you, America.

    • Obama’s Pilgrim

      Prove they are fake liberal Vermin.

    • Brian

      Do you even believe what you write? You are everything that you blame others for.

  • American-Bird-of-Prey

    Antifa just upped the game from hippie protestors to mass killers and seriously though this guy just is creepy looking my gosh that guy just looks wrong. The media will keep on talking about soft targets and gun control and in few days will catch up to the internet media. The talking bozos are spinning their naratives and wheels as we speak. We need to go after Antifa, period.

    • orly?

      Maybe someday you’ll stop falling for fake news. Maybe.

      • American-Bird-of-Prey

        Maybe you liberals should stop killing innocent Americans. Your vile hatred for this nation drives alot of this garbage.

        • orly?

          You’re claiming this garbage is driven by something nonexistent.

          • American-Bird-of-Prey

            Oh really, most mass shooters have anti-American manifestos of some type and have supported a leftist cause on social media. Is it also strange that many of these guys get guns under very strict liberal laws. Oh and the gun was purchased illegally if he was discharged dishonorably from the USAF which bars him from such purchases. A conservative would not choose a church in Texas as his target if he did have conservative leanings he would go after an abortion clinic like in Colorado. Plus a 20 something white male fits the profile of a college age Antifa protestor. Just saying.

          • orly?

            You wasted a bunch of text on nothing. You claimed, about me, “Your vile hatred for this nation drives alot of this garbage.” I don’t hate this nation. I hate hateful trash like yourself, but not our nation.

            Your claim is also not backed by facts.

        • Claudia Weil

          You probably don’t know the difference between republicans who don’t support Trump, mainstream democrats, liberals, socialists, communists, and antifa, do you? To you we’re all the same. That’s why you think we’re the enemy and that we’re going around killing everyone. Learn something before you make these ridiculous generalizations. Please.

  • Madrigalian

    George Soros product.

  • Steve Angell

    FAKE NEWS he was Antifa?

    I find no evidence of this elsewhere at all. Just conjecture.

    • Obama’s Pilgrim

      Maybe that ANTIFA flag on his FB page.

      • Steve Angell

        Doctored image that is not shown in numerous other sources of same page.

        Perhaps he is I just see no evidence. I find this the most likely motive.

  • V. M. Varga

    Ronald Reagan’s biggest mistake was picking George H. W. Bush as his VP.

    Donald Trump’s biggest mistake was picking Jeff Sessions also known as the “swamp protector” as his AG.

  • QueenBeyFan

    Let me guess… He’s going to be labeled as mentally ill.

  • Arizona Patriot

    Baxter Dmitry is a moron who uses clickbait stories to attract readers for money

  • 01PLeasant .

    Your proof is an alleged screen shot of some text? Really? I can’t stand Antifa or the alt left in general. But this is completely irresponsible journalism.

    “Devin Kelley, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was
    one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also
    report Kelley carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.”

    You have no credible source mentioned here. That’s important.

    • Matt

      When you’re in a war, sometimes you need to tell it like it is. CNN and the like tell the biggest lies you can tell…that Muslims are peaceful.

      • orly?

        Do you have evidence that Americans are peaceful?

        • Matt

          Not all Americans are. The ones who deserve their citizenship are good hard working people. Unfortunately we are being turned in to slaves. It’s alrighh tho one day we’re going to rise up and kick all of your asses.

          • orly?

            So, you’re a peaceful American who is going to kick a whole bunch of other American’s asses? Riiiiight. Please, come kick my ass, I pack heat.

          • Matt

            Youre a coward and probably don’t own a gun. Have fun getting rounded up.

          • orly?

            You want to round up people who have a different opinion then you, and I’m the coward? You are the very definition of a triggered snowflake.
            I’ve shot pistols, rifles and shotguns for about 40 years. One of my current pistols I’ve owned for about 25 years. It’s funny how fascists like you think owning a gun makes you special. It doesn’t. It’s just a tool, like you. You shouldn’t deify them.

          • Matt

            I don’t own a gun. And I’m not the one who’s gonna be rounding you up nor am I calling for it

          • orly?

            Matt: “It’s alrighh tho one day we’re going to rise up and kick all of your asses.”, “Youre a coward and probably don’t own a gun. Have fun getting rounded up.” <– You wrote that, Matt.
            So WTF are you talking about? You're going to do the 'ass kicking' but not the 'rounding up'? You are certainly encouraging this 'round up' talk. Here's a tip, Matt, don't bring a boot to a gun fight.

          • Matt

            I’m just saying that’s what is going to happen eventually. It’s a fact not an opinion or a wish.

        • Dana King

          Sure do, I am peaceful and I am an American. Democrats, on the other hand, are violent and should be registered just like sex offenders.

          • orly?

            With Nazis like you here, who needs enemies?

          • Claudia Weil

            You are insane.

          • orly?

            That’s a good Nazi, let your hatred flow…

  • Obama’s Pilgrim

    Right….so the Facebook profile was fake. It was taken down 1 hour after the shooting while the name of the shooter was only released 3 hours after the shooting. I guess those right wing trolls can time travel now…

    • orly?

      Are you saying you were on his FB page before anyone knew who he was?

      • Brian

        Or he just checked the cache history…

  • Russ M

    Instead of baning guns we need to ban liberals.

    • orly?

      But you’re not a Nazi. No. No.

      • Dana King

        We don’t need gun control, we need democrat control. All democrats should be entered into a database just like pedophiles. They should be forced to wear GPS and request permission to leave their homes. And when they leave their homes a mass page should go out to all in the neighborhood to alert that a crazy democrat is leaving its house. It’s the only way to save lives.

        • orly?

          Well aren’t you a good little Nazi.

        • Claudia Weil

          At least most of the democrats I have met aren’t crazy and hostile, like you are.

  • Claudia Weil

    I’m going to post one more time before I log off here. Insult me all you want, that’s just a reflection of you, not me. A huge majority of Americans are neither Antifa nor far right wing conspiracy theorists. It’s absurd to accuse someone who questions hacks like Alex Jones and alt.right hysteria of being a leftist or an antifa supporter. That’s crazy. It’s not that simple. Most of us just want peace and want all the craziness and hatred to stop. We don’t support violence from any side. We want our country to stop being so crazy and get back to being a nice place to live.

    • Shannan Buffolino

      He was just a loser trying to act like he had a purpose.

      • Claudia Weil

        Just like most of these crazy killers.

  • Bruce Bosco

    Frikking Liars – He was a White Christian ex Air force had nothing to do with ANTIFA https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/

    • Brian

      Another new profile and new troll account.

      • Steve Angell

        Perhaps Brian. However where is the evidence? I see this nowhere else anymore. I heard Alex Jones was floating this earlier.

    • Only Rosie Odonnell

      Better un-join.

    • BillyBobx

      You’re so butch when you’re trying to show off for your boyfriend. It was without a doubt one of you antifags.

      • orly?

        Come on out of the closet, BillyBob.

      • Claudia Weil

        Geez, you hate Antifa, you hate gay people, you hate liberals… is there anyone who you don’t hate? Lol.

  • http://www.jihadwatch.org Attila K.

    What a FUCKING sick bastard this guy was! I mean kill the church goers in an effort to protest against fascism?
    How misplaced can one get?!?

  • https://twitter.com/imshaemac Im Shae Mac

    This is a KNOWN click-bait-site with a history of posting false information.
    Its a scam site…..dig enough yourself, you will find out for yourself.

    • orly?

      What’s sad is that anyone with half a brain should be able to see that at first glance.

  • blueskybigstar

    Obvious MK ULTRA. Look it up.

  • Shannan Buffolino

    Its just losers ..loser who hate life for whatever reason because they are so miserable and angry and hate other people and they end up getting consumed with a desire to belong to a purpose that makes them think they finally found a way to get revenge and unleash their anger and have the power to control by killing innocent victims. I truly believe these types of low life losers spend countless hours in the dark on a computer becoming even less detached to reality and more attached to the ideals they read and learn and feel they want to take it out on others by shooting as many innocent unsuspecting victims as possible and thats their final loser act in life

    • BillyBobx

      these cowardly blivets were the mutts who always got beat up at recess back in elementary school.

      • Claudia Weil

        Nah, the crazy shooters are probably the bonehead playground bullies all grown up.

    • Claudia Weil

      And it doesn’t matter what “philosophy” they espouse, religious or political. They don’t speak for the rest of us. They are angry, crazy, violent individuals.

  • BillyBobx

    Doesn’t matter what race they were. They were those cowardly, left-wing homoNazis that call themselves antifa.

    • orly?

      One can’t be a Nazi and antifa, you dullard. You’re as stupid and as closeted as Rick Perry.

      • MrSnuggles2k2

        but you can be antifa and act like a nazi

        • orly?

          *facepalm*

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            you seem to think that only nazis act like nazis and that leftists could never by definition act like a nazi.

            well sorry, but communists killed about 15 times more people than the nazis ever did. the body count is still piling up.

          • orly?

            *double face palm*
            One can not be anti-fascist while being a fascist. Like one can’t be a virgin while also being a slut. Or being a teetotaler while being a raging alcoholic.
            What “communists” are you referring to? It sounds like you’re thinking of some other fascists that were called ‘communists’. Is the Democratic Republic of Korea a democratic republic? Yeah, no.

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            you seem to think being a fascist is ideological, negative it is tactical.

          • orly?

            Wrong. You seem to be dodging the point.

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            no you simply dont understand what fascism is, you are stuck in the lie that it is “right wing” to be tyrannical when in fact it is quintessentially left wing to be that way.

          • orly?

            Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go though life, son.

            fascism |ˈfaSHˌizəm| (also Fascism)

            noun

            an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

            • (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

            The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            fascism is a progressive leftist ideology, it was born from the same utopian progressive ideology that communism was born out of. NOTHING right wing about it, that is a long standing lie perpetuated by communists.

            this is why “antifascists” act and sound exactly like the “fascists” they claim to hate.

          • orly?

            Sure, the dictionaries are all wrong. Does it get exhausting maintaining your alt-right, alt-fact, alt-reality bubble?

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            all you need to do is read about WW1 to understand that fascism is a progressive utopian ideology that abandoned God just like communism and believes in that man and the world can be made perfect without him. just like communism.

            fascism as right wing political ideology is a myth that leftists tell themselves so they dont have to come to grips with the FACT their ideology is guilty of mass murder.

          • orly?

            Again, son, fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. Fascism wasn’t a thing until after WWI, keep living in your alt-fact bubble.

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            arguing against a straw man again.

            progressivism was a thing BEFORE ww1. people like planned parenthood founder margaret sanger were progressives. she also was a huge hitler fan because he too was a progressive. they both believed in creating a utopia where one master race ruled a peaceful and perfect world.

            communists believe the same thing, only they believe the way to get there is different.

            the “right wing” if there is such a thing is against big government of any kind, whereas progressives believe government is the replacement for God.

            if you take right wing politics to its logical conclusion you come away with anarchy, or no government. only brain washed morons think small government and freedom result in tyrannical big government.

            and stfu and accept nazism, hitler, and fascism as one of yours. because it is.

          • orly?

            Strawmen, fiction and moving goalposts, that seems to be your forte. You fit right in on this website.

          • MrSnuggles2k2

            lol right out of the alinsky playbook! you are exactly what you claim me to be.

          • orly?

            How long ago was your stroke?

  • Jon

    As terrible as these shootings are, it is important to remember that during the 20th century, governments killed over 200,000,000 people, of whom the majority were unarmed, including numerous genocides, including those of Ottoman Empire, Rwanda, Germany, Russia, Cambodia, China, Kazakhstan and many others. It is vital that we remember that men are not killed by guns, but by the hearts of men.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

  • Pat Woods

    ANTIFA scum should all be rounded up and killed………

    • androloma

      That’s what PROFA says. America and the world defeated PROFA in 1945. Until you came along.

  • Ebola

    This is a satire news site, lmao.

  • Bobo Brazil

    Does anybody actually believe this story??

    • androloma

      Nope. Still waiting for info from sane sources.

  • Scottie Spencer

    is everyone on this site oblivious to the jewish problem ? Antifa is a proxy of international jewry used to carry out white genocide.

  • androloma

    You can trust the conservatives to be conservatives.

    • zipper

      Quite a few aren’t.

  • James Spruyt

    Sue the NY Times for running a pro-antifi ad

  • matthew utley

    its simple folks, WE CONSERVATIVES need to carry always, even if against the law. I would much rather be charged with having a gun and killing a piece of shit like this than being buried or burying my family. Ill take it to JURY and they will not convict someone who stopped or prevented a mass killing.

  • William Brenner

    Am I really expected to believe this? I just saw this same story on the news and they didn’t mention antifa, carrying a flag, starting a civil war, or communist teachings at all. He just walked in and started shooting. Furthermore, this is TEXAS! They are like the definitive gun state. There’s no way he threatened people and forced them to read pages from a communist book without someone dropping him like a ton of bricks. This story is 100% grade A horse shit. At least try to make it sound believable.

  • Evodawg

    Might want to wait and see. I never trust these web sites to give me anything close to the truth. They are only interested in you clicking on the ads. It’s easy at this point to blame anyone since it’s the beginning of an investigation. And these sites never retract any story they get wrong. I’ll wait to see where this goes. I do believe the truth will come out since it’s Texas!!!

  • Paris Merriam

    Another loser who is nothing but a coward. I am glad he is dead as he doesn’t deserve to live.

  • jeff

    People of Christ wake you have a target on your backs arm yourself’s churches need to start posting guards at every service look out fore yourselves God bless you all

  • Charles

    Id love five minutes bare knuckles with this shit wrapped in skin

  • martin

    Our prayers are with you. I am so fooking sick of hearing “our prayers are with you”. Your prayers don’t do shit except make you feel smug and superior. Will your prayers protect you from rabies if you’re bitten by a rabid animal?
    You track down terrorists and you kill them. Prayer doesn’t work on them.

  • Austin

    I would like to see solid proof hes ofa

  • Austin

    Id like proof that hes antifa

  • Amy

    A whole trivia game was played in 14 seconds? Come one, stick to writing, you are not a reporter, don’t make shit up cause it’s more sensational, at the expense of our country. Integrity…look it up guy (and media too). I hope this writer gets a good case of indigestion.

  • Catalacjack

    No need for a trial here, just take him out in front of the church, put a noose around his neck and haul his A$$ up a lamppost as he kicks and squirms. Let him hang there for a week, and let the birds pick him apart, and the maggots feed on his body.

    • Henry Rappleyea

      He’s already dead

      • orly?

        Hey, this is yournewswire, we don’t let facts get in the way of a good story here.

  • Henry Rappleyea

    I am deeply grieved by this, and Christians saying glad the shooter went to hell is disturbing to me. I would rather he be redeemed by Christ even though he doesn’t deserve it. I know what he did was heinous, cowardly, and cold and I am grieving this.

  • http://yamamanama.livejournal.com yamamanama

    You know what the best part of being a conspiracy theorist is? If anyone contradicts your shit, it’s all part of the conspiracy!

  • PVT Flosnake

    This nutard could’ve blended his rampage in with Chicagostan. They wouldn’t have skipped a beat with 599 year to date.

  • OldCrow1973

    Notice that ANTIFA is being suppressed in MSM. In Southerland Springs. Just like Las Vegas.
    Why is ANTIFA being protected?

    • ImaHippyBurning

      COMMUNISTS protect one another till they are no more!

    • AngusJJ

      antifa IS the government

    • orly?

      Suppressed is the opposite of protected. Not that anyone is surprised that you idiots wouldn’t know that.

      • OldCrow1973

        In this particular case with ANTIFA. Suppression by the MSM is protection.

        But you already knew that.

  • MohammadFoda

    news media is reporting this terrorist as Christian Bible teacher who was dishonorably dismissed from Air Force? Do we have multiple sources confirming he was antifa liberal democratic party atheist? Thankful for the ARMED CHRISTIAN MAN WHO SAVED MANY LIVES BY TAKING OUT THIS TERRORIST! Deeply heart moving eyewitness account on   http://www.kens5.com/news/local/witness-describes-seeing-church-shooter-flee-church/489320049

  • https://www.facebook.com/BolicksFLIPPINGTRUTH David W Bolick

    WHERES THE DUDES EARS?

  • Guest

    Can’t find him on this Antigua members list.
    https://8ch.net/pol/res/10404804.html

  • Jared Fredrickson

    That’s clearly a fabric flag against a computer screen. It’s obviously 3 dimensional when the rest of the screen is not. I can even see the creases from it being rolled and shoved in a shipping envelope then crushed flat. If it was a graphic it wouldn’t have creases from being shipped or be 3 dimensional. This is ridiculously irresponsible journalism.

    • orly?

      I think you’re ridiculously irresponsible to call anything on this site journalism.

  • Arthur

    Why doesn’t he have ears?

    • Piquerish

      Fat head.

      • Arthur

        Ha!

    • Grrtime

      His boyfriend was a little too rough when he grabbed him for his daily knob job…

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn
  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire (styled as YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).

  • Piquerish

    Thin greasy hair over an egg-shaped dome – check, rheumy spit-gray eyes – check, delicate pansy nose – check, pointy anime chin – check, neck wattles – check, dishonorable discharge – check. Yep, archetypal entitled libt2rd delusional lunatic. Time for the antifa Fascist mob to be named officially a terrorist organization, investigations of its hierarchy done in earnest, arrests made (with perp-walks), trials and prison. Executions as needed.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    “YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).”

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire (styled as YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    FAKE as Donald Trump’s hair piece and Melania’s boobs. LOL

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire (styled as YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    This is all fake news dumbasses. It’s all over the Internet. CBS, NBC. This story is as fake as the guy who posted this viagra pills he’s taking. You’re literally making up fake and fraudulent news to spread hate and ignorance. Busted. Losers.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire (styled as YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    “YourNewsWire is an Los Angeles-based clickbait FAKE news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto.”

  • Guest

    This guy not on ANTIFA members listing link follows from 8chan
    https://8ch.net/pol/res/10404804.html

  • Hypo

    I will wait for confirmation from other sources. YOURNEWSWIRE is a click farm.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    Dumb asses. Do your own research next time.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn
  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire is an Los Angeles-based clickbait FAKE news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto.”

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire is an Los Angeles-based clickbait FAKE news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto.”

    Dumbasses. This is a fake News website. Next time to research.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire is an Los Angeles-based clickbait FAKE news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto.”

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn
  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).[1

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    Dumbasses. This website is completely fake. What they’re doing is committing fraud. Next time do research.

    • Grrtime

      You are one ugly dude…

      • PapaSpud

        He’s tranny, be nice.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn
  • fllwyrrlgin

    No please don’t report me to mommy. Oh what ever shall I do now? Sniff. You hurted my feelings. Oh and clearly I am not blocked you idiot. Wishful thinking (I use the term loosely in your case) on your part. Feel the burn bitch.

  • Vanessa

    Who took down his Facebook page and why? Something doesn’t seem right about this shooting and I pray the truth comes out.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    YourNewsWire (styled as YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).[1

    • cube47

      And Baxter Dimitry? Fake name as well?

    • Harvey WeenerStein

      everyone knows about the “jewish conspiracy”

      EVERYONE!

    • Harvey WeenerStein

      I’m gonna spread this superbly, and truthful article to thousands of websites!

    • Uncool

      Troll you came here just to repeatedly defend antifa

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    “YourNewsWire is an Los Angeles-based clickbait FAKE” news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto.”

    • JGault

      Thanks.

    • PapaSpud

      And what about this is false… be specific please.

  • Helfyre

    Is this true?No other outlets are reporting it.

  • https://www.facebook.com/Utopian316 Jocelyn

    Dumbasses. This website is completely fraudulent and fake. There’s reports about it on all the major news stations, CBS, NBC. Next time to research. This story is as false as Melania’s titties.

    • Grrtime

      And your dick?

      • PapaSpud

        He had it removed, be sensitive……..

  • Sean Black

    This is one of 2 small breweries that fly antifa flags at there business let them that you do not support mass murderers https://www.facebook.com/Crann%C3%B3g-Ales-147130382004277/

  • Cynthia Kloos Nash

    JOCELYN , YOU ARE DELUSIONAL, EVERYTHING SAID HERE HAS BEEN PROVEN AND IS NOT FAKED , GO WATCH CNN AND SHUT UP

  • rwg1949yt .

    Wasn’t a skin head organization sued into bankruptcy as a result of their promoting the idea of violence? Clear from the post by dave pollack above this qualifies.

  • Black Hole Sun

    There is not one link in this lying article.

  • GarthDial

    If this is true, it will soon be buried with all the details of the Los Vegas shooting. Just you watch!

    • PapaSpud

      That case just gives me the creeps…. something is all wrong there. In hours we are finding out a lot about this guy, and most shootings we do, but that case…. crickets, something stinks.

  • uhavetobekidding

    He doesn’t have any ears? He must be a Reptilian. Just like the English royal family.

  • Demi Anderson, MAGA

    Where are his links shown to be that he is related to antifa? I’m missing info.

    • PapaSpud

      haven’t seen those, but his FB page is a democratic, anti christian bonanza. Antifa- Dem….. same thing.

  • IcyNapalm

    The shooter was a total coward. Nothing about the attack said the guy was brave. He had to wait till people showed up unarmed to a church service. May justice find this man and bring him a speedy execution.

    • PapaSpud

      he is already dead- sounds like killed by a citizen with a gun…. really going to ruin the lefties story., please read before you post, I agree with you in principle though.

  • JGault

    I don’t see any other news source saying there were 2 people. NO source has said that there was an ANTIFA flag. If someone finds a source please post.

  • Charlie123

    Check his Facebook page. He was a Trump voter.

    • Truth Be1st

      Wrong, why lie when his fb page is taken down. Early snapshots say antifa,hillary, athiest leftist.

    • PapaSpud

      And you wonder why everybody thinks you are full of feces? case closed.

  • GeneralDrake

    When is America going to realize that almost all mass Shooters are liberal Democrats. They can spout talking points all day long accusing the right of hate but the level of hatred for Trump is unprecedented for any president in American history and clearly the left is crossing the line over and over again with their hateful rhetoric. If it was a conservative that did this the Democrats would a hundred percent of the time blame Trump for his hateful rhetoric stirring up hate and causing this so it’s time that we blame the left and place dead bodies firmly at their feet

  • Sean Black

    This is one of 2 small brew pubs in Canada that are flying antifa flags in a show of support .Here is there link to there facebook page showing them having a drink infront of the same flag that the shooter displayed on his facebook page comment on how they should be not showing support for mass murderers.https://www.facebook.com/Crann%C3%B3g-Ales-147130382004277/

  • Guest

    He shaved off his beard recently. 8chan thinks he’s ISIS.

  • Geezthosecrooks

    “He was an atheist and his interests included “Civil and social rights” and “Civil rights”

    Obviously not all that interested in the civil rights of those who attended this church. He served only the interests of evil, and accomplished nothing but wasting his own life and destroying the lives of countless other innocent people.

    Rot in hell forever, scum.

    • SnoopDogma

      I’m curious how “Civil and Social Rights” and “Atheist” automatically equals Antifa to this writer.

      • Geezthosecrooks

        If you read the article there are claims by eyewitnesses who said the shooter was carrying an antifa flag. I would presume that is what led the author to claim shooter was an antifa member. I haven’t yet seen that info anywhere else, so it is difficult to make a call on its credibility.

  • John Adams

    Fake. Did not happen. See Snopes. https://www.snopes.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

  • John Adams

    He was not a member of AntiFa and the events described are bullshit. Fake news yet again. https://www.snopes.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

    • Guest

      Snoopes is an alt leftist trash site. No credibility whatsoever

    • PapaSpud

      Sorry, but snopes is a bankrupt false news checker, nobody uses them anymore…… except lefties wanting to “fact check”, with their own echo chamber.

  • RayMoney

    Smfh it’s sad how you all comment arguing and spewing the same hate that caused this tragedy. We need to unite now more then ever it doesnt matter left or right libral or conservative. Oh fukin well we needa remember we are fukin American every one of us and we need to destroy this hatred. America was built thru blood shed but not in vein, we all have a dirty past but what we have become should speak volumes more. UNITED States of America, well lets unite then.

    • BobCat

      You are so right! We are not seeing enough of wanting to unite in this country. We have to support our communities and our neighbors. We have to stand together or our country will fall.

  • Rex Rickard

    Muslim convert.

  • Mike Keefe

    How this Russian propaganda is allowed in the US is beyond me. This site is known fake news.

    • PapaSpud

      Why are you here? But the site owners thank you for your patronage= more $$$.

  • Sigint

    Time to put the Democrat gun control talk to rest. This perp was prohibited from owning or purchasing a firearm by law. He was a convicted felon. A court martialed dishonorably discharged veteran is prohibited like any other convicted felon. How did he get the weapons? This proves the obvious, laws possessing the firearms will not be obeyed by criminals or the mentally ill. This is why honest citizens MUST be permitted to be armed EVERYWHERE they go. No gun free areas for honest citizens, ccw license holders and retired law enforcement officers.

  • Bob Jones

    Another Leftist/Communist kills Conservatives/Christians, and the Left will try and make excuses for him. It’s time for our govt. to do what it is supposed to do, and that is to protect us from threats foreign and domestic. That would mean being protected from Antifa, the Democratic Party, B.L.M., etc.. If they refuse to do their jobs, then we will do it for them. We consider you who are supposed to protect us, part of the problem because of your inaction. Declare the above groups Domestic Terrorist Organizations.

    • PapaSpud

      They won’t make excuses, they will attempt to use this as a reason to disarm you. Never let a crisis go to waste.

  • Guest

    Reditt HS buddy said shooter was crazy leftist. 8chan ANTIFA members list needs update.

  • Red Cricket

    He was inspired by libtard fakenews! CNN SNL MSNBC NRP PBS are to blame for spreading hate and violence!

  • Jack 7

    If this is true Dave Pollack should be in custody.

  • Nikolai

    We could be the “greatest generation”. It wasn’t your grandparents– they fell for the lies– WE don’t have to

  • stl_bear05

    Total fake news.
    THIS is how the Russians tried to influence the elections last year: putting out fake stories like this, because they know that the average American is too lazy to actually research anything.

    • Captain Obvious

      You look like a fat lazy slob yourself, STFU.

      • stl_bear05

        Ha ha ha ha…
        That’s the best response you can come up with?
        I’m guessing that YOU are one of their it’s that believes the bullshit that Baxter Dmetri is putting out there.

  • Linda Amsden

    If everyone carried a gun this guy would have been dead and alto of lives would have been saved.. I carry always I feel much safer

  • Roggie Mac

    all the this stupid talk about guns, people that murder and have mayhem in their heart and mind will find a way, airplanes ,cars, pick-up trucks, delivery trucks, and fire ,etc,etc. some of sound like those little yappy dogs that just keep on barking and barking , for no reason at all. so if you really don’t have anything truly intelligent to say , quit your annoying yapping.

  • Mike Marchese

    THIS IS WHY EVERYONE IS SO SCREWED UP.. WE HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS ARTICLE IS REAL OR NOT AND EVERYONE IS JUMPING TO A CONCLUSION, ALREADY PEOPLE ARE TURNING ON EACH OTHER BECAUSE WHAT THE THINK THEY KNOW AND NOT WHAT THEY DO KNOW .

  • Scrotus Ferrous Maximus

    Two shooters, huh? I’ll bet the narrative soon changes to “lone nut”.

  • Katherine “Katy” Fusselman

    I am a native Texan. I grew up in San Antonio near Sutherland Springs. This guy shot and killed his mother-in-law. He may have gotten married in this church. His wife and infant are missing. Someone better go look for their bodies. I am Republican, reactionary, and do my own research. I am pretty sure this guy was not Antifa, but he did have a lot of Muslim friends. Please try NOT to be an a–h–le by making a sicko guy into more than it is. His mother-in-law was at that church service and he killed her. He’s not the first person on earth to kill in-laws. He may be the first to kill a whole congregation along with her, though.

  • Josh Tipton

    Snopes just tired to post this stuff as False…. HOW?

    • Captain Obvious

      Snopes is a couple of old radical left wing hippies spewing their leftist BS as they see fit.

  • Kevin Blankenship

    So the enemy is within and he/she/it appears to be from the far left and he is almost certainly going to be used by his cohorts in criminal intent and it is to “Change” our Constitutional Republic to a ironically a Communist fascist one by their intent to create chaos and civil war by targeting innocent people in their Christian religion and or their American activities. They have the intent to abuse our Laws and Commit crime and their cohort political comrades immediately start blaming the tool and not totally blaming the ideology which they share with these radical bastards!!!

  • Open-minded Husker

    Will you right-wingers ever stop being duped? The anti-intellectualism is embarrassing.

    https://www.snopes.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

    • RageFury

      Maybe he is not Antifa, however Snopes makes reference to someone saying “it is not immediately clear”. Then they slapped a “False” tag based on “not immediately clear”. Seems it is not clear to Snopes, however they have not proven anything True or False…

    • Captain Obvious

      Talk about being DUPED. You can’t get anymore STUPID than someone believing anything from SNOPES, which is nothing more than a couple of a burnt out old leftist hippies in California sitting at their computer writing left wing lies and spin as they see it. Grow a brain, moron, and step away from the kook aide.

    • j95lee

      Snope hasn’t debunked the allegations, they’re just saying they haven’t been officially confirmed.

      On the other hand, the report here is quotes “witnesses” who apparently saw the shooting in action, but won’t name them.

  • Ruben Lopez

    Antifa is a terrorist organization. How much more carnage do politicians need to know this? Democrats where are you now?

  • http://www.eatmyfartsPigsofIslamandLeftistQueers.com/ billwhit1357

    If this is true, then Antifa needs to be labeled a Terrorist Organization and citizens be allowed to put these gutter maggots in the dirt anytime the pop their unwashed heads up! All Antifa Maggots must Die!

  • Jo6pK

    Believe that this is just getting started, the cheaping of life, the rage from a sense of being powerless while everything of value is being degraded deliberately by a government constructed to serve the people is screwing them right out in the open and militarizing the cops who are already getting away with murder everyday,

  • Maurice Trevor Andrews

    yournewswire is click bait

  • Al

    This is the direct result of having a Democrat party that is in bed with the terrorists of the world and want to dis arm Americans so their terrorist pals will face no resistance when the go door to door killing Americans. Maybe people should all carry guns now everywhere. If you all notice this isn’t happening in any mosques. Maybe the mosques need to come under fire.

  • http://www.chrischristian.org Chris Christian 4HD22
  • Bear Hampton

    This is the worst kind of bullshit lying filth news there ever has been. These kind of news writers are who needs shot.

  • Jean-Philippe Martel

    So this is the website where fake news are born.

  • corey2444

    To kill 27 there was a crew, not one.

  • Leni

    The past is the past. It does not resolve this issue now. And it is a serious issue. We need to come up with a workable plan. The primary focus should be to get these domestic terrorists rounded up. They have lists of names of people being paid by Soros,Hillary and Obama. So lets start there. It is not a witch hunt. They have the named of many. Time to make an example of them that they are not going to be tolerated. It would be a start. My prayers go out to all the families of victums in all these terrorist attacks and to everyone wounded I pray for a quick recovery. With that being said, I believe we should deputize men and women in every state and town to be ready for these crazy violent terrorists. We need to stand firm on NO MORE!!! We will accept NO MORE. . PUT A SERIOUS PLAN IN PLACE WITH ALL GOVERNORS AND MAYORS IN AGREEMENT. THATS JUST MY OPINION. BUT WHAT DO I KNOW? I AM ONLY A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN WHO WANTS THE VIOLENCE TO END. GOD BLESS YA’LL

  • Darryl Barthe
  • Dr. Pepper

    great video interview of citizen driver of truck that the hero citizen with gun stopped after he stopped the killer, so they could chase down the fleeing killer while calling 911 http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/must-see-hero-caught-gunman-devin-kelley-interviewed-chased-truck-video/

  • http://WWW.HANUMANFELLOWSHIP.ORG Tibetanfightingchipmonk

    garbage lies and a bunch of lunatics who believe them or trolls who spread them. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeee ANTIFA would drape a flag on the pulpit. Anyone who believes this is dumb as a rock and those of you who promote it are the sickest pukes on the planet.

  • Partysover

    Copied…

    “What about home depot rental trucks? They’re legal. They can easily kill. It’s not the weapon it’s the person wielding it. It’s a shame nobody else in the church was carrying or he could have been stopped before the death toll rose as high as it did. Take a hint from all the nations who are disarmed. It doesn’t keep anybody safe. It makes you an easy target. A lamb to be slaughtered. You wanna be a hero and do some good? Arm yourself and protect yourself and those around you. You should feel blessed to live in the United States of America and have a second amendment! Take it from a Canadian, if I put a beat down on an intruder in my home and zip tie him till the police arrive, I can be held legally responsible for any injury he may have sustained and I could face jail time and a permanent record for assault. FOR PROTECTING MY HOME AND FAMILY! FOR STOPPING A CRIMINAL FROM HURTING ANYONE! That’s right! Liberals in Canuckistan took away my right to self defence and defence of property in favour of giving criminals rights. How progressive! Stop it with the gun hate. Learn to love America and love your freedom because trust me it’s better than living with socialist leftists who don’t want you to be able to defend yourself.”

  • Americanmommy

    If you want to learn more about Antifa you should watch the great special One America News Network has put together on them. They show how they are directly connected to the William Ayers American Terrorist from the Weather underground, you know the same Bill Ayers that Obama launched his career from. They are anarchist Communists who want to destroy America from within, they believe that any means necessary is okay. FBI recently did a report to our elected saying that Antifa is working directly with ISIS, yes that is correct ISIS. KNOW YOUR ENEMY, understand that the people who want our nation and form of government to fall are not going to stop and only we as Americans can prepare ourselves for the war they are having with us. Prepare for the worst, pray for the best, but make zero doubts in your thinking they are at war and it is for our lives and nation.

    • Alix

      I’ve read too many reports that stated that Middle East terrorists groups have been working with BLM and An tifa. During the Ferguson riots there was a video of an Arabic man screaming at one of the police officers that he was a member of Hamas and that the police officer was a p***y!
      I’m convinced that the word Antifa does not mean “anti fascism. Looked up the word Intifada (a Palestinian and Hamas word pasted below. Pay attention to the last sentence) and here’s what it says:

      Intifada
      Intifada is an Arabic word literally meaning, as a noun, “tremor”, “shivering”, “shuddering”. It is derived from an Arabic term nafada meaning “to shake”, “shake off”, “get rid of”, as a dog might shrug off water, or as one might shake off sleep, or dirt from one’s sandals, and is a key concept in contemporary Arabic usage referring to a legitimate uprising against oppression. It is often rendered into English as “uprising”, “resistance”, or “rebellion”.

  • Michael Pietrobono

    Does this guy have ears or is this a photoshop like Adam Faux Lanza?

  • Michael Pietrobono

    Have not seen any footage from the circlong helicopter of 27 ambulances or coroner’s vans hauling bodies away. Hope there is a biohazard crew going in to clean up all the blood as well. Remember Sandy Hook had 26 but local LEO confirmed there was no biohazard comoany contracted to clean up the supposed blood.
    Seems like a false flag to grab guns. Again.

  • Daniel Roberts

    He was a registered voter of No Party Affiliation . He was an Atheist . He was a wife and child beater . He was an Air Force reject . He got kicked out of the Air Force for domestic violence ( Conduct unbecoming ) . He should not have had a weapon legally on the type of discharge alone . He shouldn’t have been able to get a weapon on his criminal weapon alone . His mother should have swallowed . Any questions ?

  • Christopher Mooney

    I think it’s much more likely that the FBI will be investigating your Russian funded fake news operation, than Antifa. This is totally false and the “Evidence” you have provided is completely fake

  • Christopher Mooney

    “Dimitry Baxter” literally has a picture of himself stood in front of the Kremlin, as his profile picture on Facebook. lol

  • Christopher Mooney

    This is a famous Russian fake news site, the “evidence” is completely fake, and the article is completely false.

  • Dave Jacqueson

    First of all just for everybody’s education Barack Obama was already warned about these people in antifa a year before he left office by the FBI the FBI requested that they be considered a domestic terrorist group he turned a blind eye just like he encouraged BLM and commended them on their efforts so John Ham stop by putting it on the previous administration for allowing it spread the blame where it belongs on both parties

  • So Angry

    Many other sites reporting this as fake news. Just saying.

  • Perpitraitor

    Who ever thought AuntQuifa could be so deadly!

  • Chris Turner

    Wondering if he also worked for cNN

    • oandroplex700

      probably a charter member

  • Micene

    This guy was just a patsy. Wake up americans, alle these shootings are CIA/Mossad false flags until proven otherwise.

    • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

      Seems reasonable.

  • FedUpWithLibs

    This nut is the typical lefty loon and the are dying knowing that he wasn’t a right wing conservative Trump supporter

  • Kevin

    Waiting for CNN to run a piece about this slug being an Antifa Democrat. Their spin is whitey with a gun.

    • FedUpWithLibs

      You will be waiting quite awhile

  • Jerry Johnson

    If this is true it will be yet another Liberal Democrat who kills those who have different views. If Democrats would stop shooting people gun violence would decrease by 70%

  • JOHN DOE THE 3RD
  • william C

    With all these nuts posting messages like the ones shown, why aren’t the police and FBI looking closely at their activities and backgrounds?

    • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

      They may be. It’s just been 30 hours, or so, since the incident.
      Have patience, but don’t hold your breath. If they find anything suspicious, but not immediately actionable, you doubtfully will hear it.

  • MilkAndWookiees

    Only thing that even remotely links him to antifa in this article is a screenshot of a text that would’ve been way too easy to fake. Especially when it talks about two shooters when everything else indicates this guy was alone.

    Aside from that, every other antifa reference, including the supposed chat room- while it may be legit- is completely unrelated to this incident, and nothing but wild conjecture.

    Don’t stoop to the level of the left. Maintain a modicum of journalistic integrity.

  • Rick Scott

    lol, just another fake news story you all are trying to pass around, try doing some real research for once.

    https://www.snopes.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/snopes/

  • MarvLS1

    We need to go after Dave Pollack and Rich Hertz and the rest of this a-ho’s “friends”…

  • Butch McGee

    The victims described as “deplorable by clinton……

  • Anthony Cavanagh

    So who made this up, Russians or some American alt right

    • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

      Either way, division ensues.

  • Carl Acquaviva
  • Coma White

    I’ve seen this EXACT story posted on quite a few other questionable “news” sites, and it’s starting to really piss me off.
    All you have done here is post a few facts sprinkled with completely unconfirmed rumor, and fanning the flames of stupidity.

  • dave

    None of the links to ANTIFA have been verified, at all. Our side can’t keep yelling about FAKE NEWS with regards to CNN and MSNBC, and then go posting fake news of our own.

    How about we do a little fact checking before jumping onto a story and running fake news?

    If it turns out that he was ANTIFA, great, run with it, but until then, let’s stick to the facts…

    • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

      Some folks will do anything to promote a political agenda.
      I heard that yournewswire.com is known for creating “click bait” stories from whole cloth. This appears to be one.

  • naedrdmk

    Is this for real? Not that I expect full disclosure from the mainstream media because they love antifas, but this should be big news at the national level.

  • Justan American

    The late American historian Stephen Ambrose was being interviewed toward the end of his life by a reporter from the New Orleans newspaper The Times-Picayune. One of the subjects was the Civil War and its aftermath. The reporter asked him if he thought there was a possibility of the United States ever being torn apart by another civil war. His answer was yes. He said whenever this country would elect as President a black man. He said this one mans tenure as President would be so divisive that civil war will be inevitable. Stephen Ambrose died in 2002.

  • HarveyWeenerStein

    Notice the (((NWO))) killing pattern evolving here-Las Vegas=Country Music Festival-considered conservative christian affair.

    Texas Baptist Church shootings=99% Christian Conservative attendees???

    And which (((“ethnic tribe”))) wants to genocide these folks?

  • Michelle Castañeda

    White people better start taking your guns every where. I do. I even take my in court house and church. Don’t leave home without it.

    • MarkThisDown

      Well Devin Kelley certainly followed your suggestion.

  • MarkThisDown
    • John Paschke

      nopes

  • MarkThisDown
    • SouthTexas

      The info may be fake, but using snopes to verify is just as bad, or worse.

    • Takiwa

      Snopes is a joke:’Fact checking’ website Snopes on verge of collapse
      after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his
      honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn’t told its readers THOSE facts)
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

      • MarkThisDown

        If we disagree, it’s fake news, filing for BK, libtard, connected to the Illumanati… shall I continue, scooter?

        • Takiwa

          I’m not saying this story is 100% accurate however using snopes as a reference for anything other than old wives tales is futile.
          They’ve been proven have political agendas at the very least.

          • MarkThisDown

            Can we agree to stick to the facts regardless of the vehicle used to present them?

          • Takiwa

            You act as a child. Blocked.

          • MarkThisDown

            You act as a braindead cretin but you are amusing.

  • phxflyguy

    Bullshit.

  • MarkThisDown

    Is this journalist that stupid and lazy or just pure Russian evil?

  • HarveyWeenerStein

    (((They))) are out in force trolling “truth websites”. forgot to mention the DC Capital shootings of Congresspeople- again fits the (((NWO))) PATTERN of hatred and murder toward white people.

  • MarkThisDown

    Let’s see… we believe everything posted on this sketchy facebook page but all reputable news sources that disagree must be “fake”. About right?

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    • Takiwa

      You’re spamming. Is this how you handle yourself, like a child? Be a man and walk away. Why waste your time here?

      • MarkThisDown

        Because there is a certain portion of our voting population that simply will not read anything besides alt-right news sites and they vote with bumpersticker logic. It’s time to look at more sources than this and Breitbart. Although I vehemently disagree with much of Fox, Breitbart, MSNBC, etc, I take the time to read all sides and sift through the arguments. When false information is introduced it must be cut off at the head. Work for you?

  • ggaston1960

    Everyone should get to carry their own portable nuclear device… just in case!

    • MarkThisDown

      They should be required to be honest when completing a form at Academy before doing so.

  • Takiwa

    Alleged Insider “Anon” predicted Texas event:
    https://twitter.com/LizCrok

    • MarkThisDown

      Ummm… “Page Doesn’t Exist” there, cowboy.

  • willnkc

    I see, so it was the Democrat Party brown shirts that were responsible for this. Not a surprise at all, stay armed America!

    • MarkThisDown

      We will, Boris. Thanks for the heads up.

  • KBil

    Who was the second shooter?

  • KD

    This has already been debunked. More alt-right lies. Demand stricter gun laws or this will obviously continue to happen.

  • raykarner

    Being an atheist has nothing to do with it. I am atheist and have no need to kill innocent people. This is purely political and evil.

    • Mike, Agent of S.O.R.O.S.

      Personal and evil.
      He had beef with at least one attendee.

  • HarveyWeenerStein

    Fact checking’ website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn’t told its readers THOSE facts)

    By Alana Goodman For Dailymail.com16:13 EST 26 Jul 2017, updated 17:47 EST 26 Jul 2017

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

  • Terbreugghen

    But, But, But Trump didn’t call for the death penalty for this shooter either. . . cuz he’s WHITE! Same reason he didn’t call for death penalty for Padgett, but did for the Muslim NYC Truck attacker. RACISM is the REAL thing, and white people are to blame! (don’t mention that Padgett and the texas shooter are both dead. . . .)

    • pintorider

      CNN called for the death penalty for Paddock–seriously, they did.

  • SnoopDogma

    “Several photos” apparently being just the one. And where’d that antifa flag come from if it doesn’t appear on the photos tab either?

  • Billy S DuBose

    I heard he was in a domestic feud with his former mother-in-law who attended the church! He had texted threats!

  • Ellis Drewery

    Is there any doubt that the Liberal mentality, which gives rise to these Anti-American and Anti-Christian splinter groups, is the worst enemy of our nation, and presents as the greatest threat to our society and our Republic?

    • Ellis Drewery

      I stand by my appraisal of the “Liberal Mentality”, but, in this particular case….it seems that the motivator for the shooting had little to do with political dogma and more to do with Satanic compulsion, not that the two differ all that much.

  • Teresa Green

    Fake news is fake. This picture is a hoax, photoshopped BS. It was a domestic violence issue, he was targeting his in laws, who were probably trying to help his wife and child escape his clutches. Its why he was discharged from the air force, for domestic violence aganist his child. Disgusting creep but is not related to antifa.

  • Ron Hussey

    We have three enemies of America, ANTIFA, and Islamic Extremists, and today’s liberal socialist democrats, all three are a threat to Christian’s, American’s, and our way of life.

  • VAHAWK

    Another BULLSHIT event that is about as FAKE as it gets

  • VAHAWK

    FAKE AF

  • Hal49

    This is a FAKE fucking “news” site. Anyone believing anything they make up has their head up their ass. Don’t depend of shit sites like this.

  • Dean

    All sites with the exception of this one claim it was a family dispute and the ex mother inlaw’s church is the one shot up. he had threatened her via texts. I would do more reading and research before believing the Antifa conection

    • Hal49

      Damn right, and already with the “2nd shooter” BS. Some people will and/or want to believe everything they read on ignorant sites like this. The only time I come here to it is when one of my dumber friends or contacts send it to me as if it was real news. Well it ain’t.

  • Dick Silk

    The primary story here is that alt-right groups are actually alt-left, *posing* as “alt-right.” There’s no such thing as “alt-right” because conservatives (by *definition*) are centrist, as in the conservation of angular momentum.

  • Hal49

    Nice, make a comment on how fake this site is, and it most certainly is, and they remove the comments. But I would expect nothing else from a fake news site and the scum who run it. To bad few if any people will see this comment either. Giving you the finger now…

  • tittietwister

    Simply disgusting!!

  • john logan

    Sessions is a complete waste of time. I wish Trump would get rid of him.

  • lapin.grove

    Looked up his FB friends Rich Hertz… lives in TURKEY . No page for that DAVE POLLAK… he is the one saying to go after white Conservative churches….
    MAYBE the FBI will chase them down IF FB helps…. IF.

  • don

    I’m sure the ANTIFA flag won’t inspire the same reaction the Confederate flag did. Rekon why?

  • PBCDem

    This story is pure bullshit. Talk about FAKE NEWS! He wasn’t Antifa. He had a dispute with his mother in law who has frequented that church but she wasn’t there that day. He did manage to kill his grandmother in law. Stop spreading bullshit.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/us/texas-church-shooting/index.html

  • Stanley Hudson

    HAHAHAH fakenews.

    This site is such a joke, he is the same as the charlotte killer and Oregon killer.
    Conservatism is a disease.

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  • Just Sayin

    The article is BS. What a shocker….the real truth..